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2013-04-23 10:29:49 PM
Stripping is just like any other performance career - music, acting, sports, comedy, art, etc.  The very good and well-managed make most of the money, the rest struggle or starve.
 
2013-04-23 10:44:26 PM
'I claim all!  . . . Most! . . . Some . . . A little bit . . . Dammit, I pay taxes! [sic]' she wrote in response to the latter.


Say hi to the auditors for me.
 
2013-04-23 10:46:06 PM
It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.
 
2013-04-23 10:52:04 PM

Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.


Pride is concern for what you think of yourself.   Vanity is concern for what others think of you.
 
2013-04-23 11:00:15 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.

Pride is concern for what you think of yourself.   Vanity is concern for what others think of you.


both of which are cheaply purchased, it seems.
 
2013-04-23 11:09:54 PM

Infernalist: BarkingUnicorn: Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.

Pride is concern for what you think of yourself.   Vanity is concern for what others think of you.

both of which are cheaply purchased, it seems.


There are four orders of strip club stage workers:

sluts, fearful creatures who do what they don't want to do for  money

strippers, cold predators who strip men's wallets as sharks strip a whale's carcass

dancers, who dance for joy and are paid well for giving joy

angels, dancers who make excellent friends and lovers

Then there's the one and only Archangel, who I will never forget... :-)
 
2013-04-23 11:37:19 PM
Imgur/Reddit to Gawker to Daily Mail = Nothing but Net
 
2013-04-23 11:53:36 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-23 11:54:36 PM

Joelogon: Imgur/Reddit to Gawker to Daily Mail & submitted to Fark = Nothing but Net Instagreen

 
2013-04-24 12:00:42 AM
Well, she's not the brightest candle.

/hope the treasury dept doesn't see it
 
2013-04-24 12:05:47 AM
Just finished up my shift and all I have is an expired Arby's coupon, two Chick Tracts and a picture of Ted McGinley as Ace from "The Love Boat."

Is it still performance art if I go up to something other than polka music?
 
2013-04-24 12:10:54 AM
Engineering huh?  Can't wait until promotion time when the boss pulls out this article.
 
2013-04-24 12:29:08 AM
Great pay and flexible work hours?  It sounds like a pretty nice gig.  If she's putting 90% of it away into savings and using it to finance her education, she's doing it right.  The only problem I see with it is that it's certainly not a viable long term career.  If you start when you're 18 you have what, maybe twelve prime stripping years, twenty if you're genetically blessed?  As long as you go in with a plan to make the money last and invest it into something that you can do once the effects of age start creeping in, it could a smart play.
 
2013-04-24 12:54:26 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Great pay and flexible work hours?  It sounds like a pretty nice gig.  If she's putting 90% of it away into savings and using it to finance her education, she's doing it right.  The only problem I see with it is that it's certainly not a viable long term career.  If you start when you're 18 you have what, maybe twelve prime stripping years, twenty if you're genetically blessed?  As long as you go in with a plan to make the money last and invest it into something that you can do once the effects of age start creeping in, it could a smart play.


I knew a gal in Denver who danced at the same club for 17 years (yes, I patronized it that long).  She was still lean and hot, even after five kids.   That is genetics!  She had every high-roller in town wrapped around her finger.
 
2013-04-24 12:57:55 AM

Joelogon: Imgur/Reddit to Gawker to Daily Mail = Nothing but Net


Seriously.
 
2013-04-24 01:03:41 AM

Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.


It is even more amazing that you care enough to post this.
Why does anyone care what someone else does for a living?

Strippers and hookers hurt no one.
And yet do-gooders everywhere make certain that they have control over what other people can do for a living.
Same with drugs and gambling.
Why are we so concerned about "stopping" people?

/bah
 
2013-04-24 01:20:27 AM
Yes, stripper, I am convinced this is just a great thing for you, and believe everything you said. Best of luck with you nonfictional engineering career and proposals from six figure a year total winners. Sounds like everything smells like roses... or is that just the stripper perfume?
 
2013-04-24 01:32:43 AM
I love how in these threads people just assume that they're dancing on stage making money like that.  They are grinding on dudes laps and rubbing their dicks through their pants and giving out their numbers to text random dudes when their shifts are and begging people to buy $15 watered down mixed drinks.  Dancing on stage is like 5% of what they are doing
 
2013-04-24 02:41:15 AM
I'm amazed that strip clubs still do so well, now that hardcore pornography is free and literally one quick google search away. I guess there's still no substitute for seeing a live woman in front of you?

I've only been to one strip club and the only thing that shocked me was that they served food there. I mean, I shouldn't have been shocked at all, obviously it makes sense from a business perspective; if you want your clients to spend a lot of time and money at your establishment, you're going to have to feed them.

But....a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.
 
2013-04-24 02:51:20 AM

Infernalist: BarkingUnicorn: Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.

Pride is concern for what you think of yourself.   Vanity is concern for what others think of you.

both of which are cheaply purchased, it seems.


Have you ever worked for wages?
 
2013-04-24 02:57:44 AM

miss diminutive: I'm amazed that strip clubs still do so well, now that hardcore pornography is free and literally one quick google search away. I guess there's still no substitute for seeing a live woman in front of you?

I've only been to one strip club and the only thing that shocked me was that they served food there. I mean, I shouldn't have been shocked at all, obviously it makes sense from a business perspective; if you want your clients to spend a lot of time and money at your establishment, you're going to have to feed them.

But....a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.


I don't think my male hormones are up to snuff or something.  When I went to strip clubs, I was mostly just bored and annoyed by the shiatty drinks.  I'm into women, but apparently not to the extent that some people are.
 
2013-04-24 03:10:31 AM

miss diminutive: I'm amazed that strip clubs still do so well, now that hardcore pornography is free and literally one quick google search away. I guess there's still no substitute for seeing a live woman in front of you?

I've only been to one strip club and the only thing that shocked me was that they served food there. I mean, I shouldn't have been shocked at all, obviously it makes sense from a business perspective; if you want your clients to spend a lot of time and money at your establishment, you're going to have to feed them.

But....a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.


That's just your imagination running wild.  The kitchens in clubs I've frequented are immaculate and the food divine.

Had a porterhouse steak smothered in mushrooms with sauteed asparagus on the side.  It was so good, I called the chef out to tip and compliment him.

"Sir, I would rather eat this than pussy."

He blushed.
 
2013-04-24 03:14:47 AM

Relatively Obscure: miss diminutive: I'm amazed that strip clubs still do so well, now that hardcore pornography is free and literally one quick google search away. I guess there's still no substitute for seeing a live woman in front of you?

I've only been to one strip club and the only thing that shocked me was that they served food there. I mean, I shouldn't have been shocked at all, obviously it makes sense from a business perspective; if you want your clients to spend a lot of time and money at your establishment, you're going to have to feed them.

But....a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.

I don't think my male hormones are up to snuff or something.  When I went to strip clubs, I was mostly just bored and annoyed by the shiatty drinks.  I'm into women, but apparently not to the extent that some people are.


I don't think you're alone in your sentiments and I don't think it has anything to do with not being into women as much as other men. I believe I like men as much as the next girl, but male strip clubs hold no appeal to me. I'm not saying they should be shut down or that I judge people who work at or frequent them, the concept just does nothing for me.

Maybe I'm just naive, or just a jealous and possessive person, but if there's going to be a well built man stripping his clothes off for me, I want him doing it for me alone, and not because I'm paying him to do it.
 
2013-04-24 03:33:21 AM

miss diminutive: Relatively Obscure: miss diminutive: I'm amazed that strip clubs still do so well, now that hardcore pornography is free and literally one quick google search away. I guess there's still no substitute for seeing a live woman in front of you?

I've only been to one strip club and the only thing that shocked me was that they served food there. I mean, I shouldn't have been shocked at all, obviously it makes sense from a business perspective; if you want your clients to spend a lot of time and money at your establishment, you're going to have to feed them.

But....a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.

I don't think my male hormones are up to snuff or something.  When I went to strip clubs, I was mostly just bored and annoyed by the shiatty drinks.  I'm into women, but apparently not to the extent that some people are.

I don't think you're alone in your sentiments and I don't think it has anything to do with not being into women as much as other men. I believe I like men as much as the next girl, but male strip clubs hold no appeal to me. I'm not saying they should be shut down or that I judge people who work at or frequent them, the concept just does nothing for me.

Maybe I'm just naive, or just a jealous and possessive person, but if there's going to be a well built man stripping his clothes off for me, I want him doing it for me alone, and not because I'm paying him to do it.


You, with limited firsthand experience, assume that strip clubs are about sex.   To true connoisseurs of the ecdyastic arts, they are more akin to ballet theaters or gymnastics exhibitions.  They are also like geisha houses where men can be at ease, be pampered, and converse with women of wit, charm, and sophistication.
 
2013-04-24 05:22:38 AM

SnakeLee: I love how in these threads people just assume that they're dancing on stage making money like that.  They are grinding on dudes laps and rubbing their dicks through their pants and giving out their numbers to text random dudes when their shifts are and begging people to buy $15 watered down mixed drinks.  Dancing on stage is like 5% of what they are doing


And if she's making $3300+ a shift, she's probably interacting more with her customers than most state laws allow.
 
2013-04-24 05:37:55 AM

vygramul: SnakeLee: I love how in these threads people just assume that they're dancing on stage making money like that.  They are grinding on dudes laps and rubbing their dicks through their pants and giving out their numbers to text random dudes when their shifts are and begging people to buy $15 watered down mixed drinks.  Dancing on stage is like 5% of what they are doing

And if she's making $3300+ a shift, she's probably interacting more with her customers than most state laws allow.


She said it was an unusual haul for a double shift.  $500 to $1500 is her usual range.  Not uncommon at all.

She mentioned house fees of $45/shift, but I think she left out a lot of other expenses:  makeup/hairstylist before each shift; tip-outs to  DJ, bartenders, waitresses, bouncers, and valet who walks her to her car at night consume 15-20%, I'm told.  Unlucky girls go home with less money than they arrived with.

Then there's costumes, which are ridiculously overpriced, and shoes.  The way to a dancer's heart is through her feet, I've learned.  The only thing better than shoes is a 3x4 sheepskin rug to spare her knees and spine on stage.  But those get stolen quickly.
 
2013-04-24 06:04:49 AM
Desperate men pay whores a lot of $20 bills.

Film at 11.
 
2013-04-24 06:06:51 AM
It's descrimination that she's pretty.
 
2013-04-24 06:15:42 AM
$75 for a quick bj out back
/Not that I know anything about that
 
2013-04-24 06:17:25 AM

Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.


There isnt much I wouldnt do for $1,000 in (unreported) cash a day.

/I'm a guy though :(
 
2013-04-24 06:20:37 AM
I don't understand the appeal of paying someone to dance.
Sure, it'd be enticing but I'd rather get a happy ending from a prostitute than a whole lot of nothing.

I hope she saves some of that money for later in life.
 
2013-04-24 06:21:20 AM
an engineering degree at 'one of the most prestigious public tech schools in the U.S.'

In the US, at least, a 'tech school' refers to an unaccredited institution that can only grant associates (two-year post-secondary) degrees and focuses heavily on job training.  While some of the degree titles do indeed include the word "engineer" on the placard, e.g. 'sanitation engineering', that's not what most people mean when they say they're getting an "engineering degree".

To most people, "engineering degree" refers to a 4-year bachelor's degree that, in conjunction with state PE cert tests, allows you to perform engineering design work in a professional capacity.  Tech schools by definition do not offer these degrees, if they did they wouldn't be tech schools, they'd be colleges/universities.

//Albeit most of the people unaware of this distinction haven't been to either type of school and probably didn't graduate high school, so I'm guessing we're dealing with a pretty stereotypical level of stripper education here.
 
2013-04-24 06:21:37 AM

BarkingUnicorn: miss diminutive: Relatively Obscure: miss diminutive: I'm amazed that strip clubs still do so well, now that hardcore pornography is free and literally one quick google search away. I guess there's still no substitute for seeing a live woman in front of you?

I've only been to one strip club and the only thing that shocked me was that they served food there. I mean, I shouldn't have been shocked at all, obviously it makes sense from a business perspective; if you want your clients to spend a lot of time and money at your establishment, you're going to have to feed them.

But....a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.

I don't think my male hormones are up to snuff or something.  When I went to strip clubs, I was mostly just bored and annoyed by the shiatty drinks.  I'm into women, but apparently not to the extent that some people are.

I don't think you're alone in your sentiments and I don't think it has anything to do with not being into women as much as other men. I believe I like men as much as the next girl, but male strip clubs hold no appeal to me. I'm not saying they should be shut down or that I judge people who work at or frequent them, the concept just does nothing for me.

Maybe I'm just naive, or just a jealous and possessive person, but if there's going to be a well built man stripping his clothes off for me, I want him doing it for me alone, and not because I'm paying him to do it.

You, with limited firsthand experience, assume that strip clubs are about sex.   To true connoisseurs of the ecdyastic arts, they are more akin to ballet theaters or gymnastics exhibitions.  They are also like geisha houses where men can be at ease, be pampered, and converse with women of wit, charm, and sophistication.


My sarcasm meter is broken right now so I'm not sure if serious, but when I was hanging out at a strip club years ago, it was in fact more about the environment than about sex. Sure, you paid for the gals' time but so what? Some of them were pretty damned smart, compared to the idiots I had to deal with every day. Had a couple standing offers for some free after-hours hijinks and possibly relationships but never took them up on it for some reason. I would go in during slow periods and have virtually every gal in the place around my table because nobody else was there. I was raised by a bra-burning feminist who had no patience for any woman who "objectified" herself and I enjoyed talking with women with other perspectives on life, beauty and sexuality. And I can definitely appreciate having a beautiful woman grinding against me as we'd talk about local politics or discussing the finer points of Wicca or whatever.
 
2013-04-24 06:21:48 AM
I bet she totally pays taxes on everything she earns. Totally. Strippers with their hearts of gold and good decision making abilities. Also, the morals.
 
2013-04-24 06:23:29 AM
miss diminutive:
a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.

I'm gonna have to agree with that.  It's not necessarily about hygiene, it's more like... separation of church and state.
 
2013-04-24 06:26:46 AM

No Such Agency: miss diminutive:
a buffet at a strip club just seemed...I don't know....icky.

I'm gonna have to agree with that.  It's not necessarily about hygiene, it's more like... separation of church and state.


Strip clubs frequently have extremely cheap lunch deals and so on to get people in the door during off hours.  If you're willing to be stingy with the tipping you can frequently get a full meal for what would otherwise be fast-food prices.

This has been the case for a long time, albeit it's kind of the equivalent of garnering a meal from supermarket free samples.

//I'm really good at being poor.
 
2013-04-24 06:28:54 AM

Jim_Callahan: an engineering degree at 'one of the most prestigious public tech schools in the U.S.'

In the US, at least, a 'tech school' refers to an unaccredited institution that can only grant associates (two-year post-secondary) degrees and focuses heavily on job training.  While some of the degree titles do indeed include the word "engineer" on the placard, e.g. 'sanitation engineering', that's not what most people mean when they say they're getting an "engineering degree".

To most people, "engineering degree" refers to a 4-year bachelor's degree that, in conjunction with state PE cert tests, allows you to perform engineering design work in a professional capacity.  Tech schools by definition do not offer these degrees, if they did they wouldn't be tech schools, they'd be colleges/universities.

//Albeit most of the people unaware of this distinction haven't been to either type of school and probably didn't graduate high school, so I'm guessing we're dealing with a pretty stereotypical level of stripper education here.


"Prestigious public tech school"?  And that kind of money grinding on gullible dudes?

She's a Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech, and a hell of an "engineer"...
 
2013-04-24 06:31:27 AM

BarkingUnicorn: You, with limited firsthand experience, assume that strip clubs are about sex. To true connoisseurs of the ecdyastic arts, they are more akin to ballet theaters or gymnastics exhibitions. They are also like geisha houses where men can be at ease, be pampered, and converse with women of wit, charm, and sophistication.


i.qkme.me

That is what it SHOULD be... but I have yet to see anything in the USA that compares with a true Geisha house (I am not talking about the decor or the sex). The Japanese have such things down to an artful science.
 
2013-04-24 06:34:43 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: $75 for a quick bj out back
/Not that I know anything about that


you overpaid
 
2013-04-24 06:37:12 AM

robohobo: I bet she totally pays taxes on everything she earns. Totally. Strippers with their hearts of gold and good decision making abilities. Also, the morals.


here... you dropped this:

images.buycostumes.com
 
2013-04-24 06:38:41 AM
I hate going to strip clubs, but more power to them. If people are stupid enough to give them money, then why not?
 
2013-04-24 06:38:44 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Great pay and flexible work hours?  It sounds like a pretty nice gig.  If she's putting 90% of it away into savings and using it to finance her education, she's doing it right.  The only problem I see with it is that it's certainly not a viable long term career.  If you start when you're 18 you have what, maybe twelve prime stripping years, twenty if you're genetically blessed?  As long as you go in with a plan to make the money last and invest it into something that you can do once the effects of age start creeping in, it could a smart play.


The doctor an old friend of mine worked for paid his way through school as a male stripper. He's debt-free, so I guess he did it right.

/dull story, bro
 
2013-04-24 06:38:44 AM

redmid17: drjekel_mrhyde: $75 for a quick bj out back
/Not that I know anything about that

you overpaid


it's not about quantity, it's about quality... :P
 
2013-04-24 06:38:59 AM

BolloxReader: To true connoisseurs of the ecdyastic arts, they are more akin to ballet theaters or gymnastics exhibitions.  They are also like geisha houses where men can be at ease, be pampered, and converse with women of wit, charm, and sophistication.

My sarcasm meter is broken right now so I'm not sure if serious, but when I was hanging out at a strip club years ago, it was in fact more about the environment than about sex. Sure, you paid for the gals' time but so what? Some of them were pretty damned smart, compared to the idiots I had to deal with every day. Had a couple standing offers for some free after-hours hijinks and possibly relationships but never took them up on it for some reason. I would go in during slow periods and have virtually every gal in the place around my table because nobody else was there. I was raised by a bra-burning feminist who had no patience for any woman who "objectified" herself and I enjoyed talking with women with other perspectives on life, beauty and sexuality. And I can definitely appreciate having a beautiful woman grinding against me as we'd talk about local politics or discussing the finer points of Wicca or whatever.


I am perfectly sincere.  It's a pleasure to make the acquaintance of a fellow connoisseur.   I, too, am a "day shift guy."  Dancers (an order higher than strippers) gravitate to the day shift.  They are the ones who dance for joy, and they make the most money effortlessly.
 
2013-04-24 06:40:35 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: robohobo: I bet she totally pays taxes on everything she earns. Totally. Strippers with their hearts of gold and good decision making abilities. Also, the morals.

here... you dropped this:

[images.buycostumes.com image 425x425]


Get back to me the day you have a daughter who grows up to be a stripper.
 
2013-04-24 06:43:17 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: BarkingUnicorn: You, with limited firsthand experience, assume that strip clubs are about sex. To true connoisseurs of the ecdyastic arts, they are more akin to ballet theaters or gymnastics exhibitions. They are also like geisha houses where men can be at ease, be pampered, and converse with women of wit, charm, and sophistication.

[i.qkme.me image 479x361]

That is what it SHOULD be... but I have yet to see anything in the USA that compares with a true Geisha house (I am not talking about the decor or the sex). The Japanese have such things down to an artful science.


Indeed, they do, and strip clubs are not at the same level.  But during the day shift, one can find dancers who would make fine geishas.
 
2013-04-24 06:44:29 AM

Infernalist: It's amazing how cheap some girls will barter away their dignity and self-respect.


Yes, but enough about just pretty much every corporate job in the US.

Alonjar: There isnt much I wouldnt do for $1,000 in (unreported) cash a day.

/I'm a guy though :(


Over on reddit she said male dancers make better money than female dancers... you just have to be ok with the fact that you'll be dancing and grinding up on other men rather than horny housewives.
 
2013-04-24 06:46:01 AM

BarkingUnicorn: BolloxReader: To true connoisseurs of the ecdyastic arts, they are more akin to ballet theaters or gymnastics exhibitions.  They are also like geisha houses where men can be at ease, be pampered, and converse with women of wit, charm, and sophistication.

My sarcasm meter is broken right now so I'm not sure if serious, but when I was hanging out at a strip club years ago, it was in fact more about the environment than about sex. Sure, you paid for the gals' time but so what? Some of them were pretty damned smart, compared to the idiots I had to deal with every day. Had a couple standing offers for some free after-hours hijinks and possibly relationships but never took them up on it for some reason. I would go in during slow periods and have virtually every gal in the place around my table because nobody else was there. I was raised by a bra-burning feminist who had no patience for any woman who "objectified" herself and I enjoyed talking with women with other perspectives on life, beauty and sexuality. And I can definitely appreciate having a beautiful woman grinding against me as we'd talk about local politics or discussing the finer points of Wicca or whatever.

I am perfectly sincere.  It's a pleasure to make the acquaintance of a fellow connoisseur.   I, too, am a "day shift guy."  Dancers (an order higher than strippers) gravitate to the day shift.  They are the ones who dance for joy, and they make the most money effortlessly.


I wish there were places like the Geisha houses of pre 1900s Japan in the USA. For me, like you, it's not about sex (you can bust a nut with anyone), but it's about the company of a beautiful woman who is cultured and is there to please you in every way possible (music, dance, poetry, conversation, whatever your pleasure). Those places were immaculate (expensive, but immaculate), and they chose if they would see a particular client or not depending on many factors. Granted, only the samurai could afford them, but only someone with quite a bit of disposable income would be able to afford them today as well. There is quite a bit to be said for refined culture (something sorely lacking today).
 
2013-04-24 06:47:02 AM

robohobo: HindiDiscoMonster: robohobo: I bet she totally pays taxes on everything she earns. Totally. Strippers with their hearts of gold and good decision making abilities. Also, the morals.

here... you dropped this:

[images.buycostumes.com image 425x425]

Get back to me the day you have a daughter who grows up to be a stripper.


hopefully, I will not make snap judgements about someone's moral character without knowing them.
 
2013-04-24 06:47:48 AM
'From now on when people ask me why I'm a stripper, I'm just going to show them this picture of my father'
 
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