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(Rolling Stone)   Will.i.am admits to plag.i.arism   (rollingstone.com ) divider line
    More: Followup, Mat Zo, KIIS-FM, rebounds, Interscope  
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2013-04-23 09:35:22 PM  
L.i.ke
 
2013-04-24 12:29:19 AM  
HOTY candidate right there

/nicely done, subs
 
2013-04-24 12:40:25 AM  
Shouldn't there be some ban from releasing music as a result?
 
2013-04-24 12:42:20 AM  

laststarfighter: Shouldn't there be some ban from releasing music as a result?


Anything that bans his music is a net positive for society.
 
2013-04-24 12:47:39 AM  
Wackest dude in the record industry for seven straight years.
 
2013-04-24 12:49:50 AM  
You mean he dodges the subject by essentially saying 'Oh I asked for a altered version of this a year ago, didn't get it, so just went ahead with the original without permission anyway' making it sound as if things just got mucked up? Please.

 The guy has jacked more shiat than Ma Barker. So far he's gotten sued or called out for not licensing on what... Voodoo Doll, Party All The Time, I Got It From My Momma (which he didn't rip off from some unknown, he stole freaking Daft Punk for that), Dance, the list goes on. What a wanker.
 
2013-04-24 12:52:15 AM  
Isn't that what just about everybody does anymore though? Hell, I'm surprised the people who own the rights to that sample actually made it themselves, and didn't just remix something from the 70's. I think perhaps I lost all respect for people who sample and remix when one of them compared what they do with what jazz musicians do. You've pretty much lost all respect as a musician when you think your ability to use a couple computer programs puts you on par with John Coltrane.
 
2013-04-24 12:52:51 AM  
Oh yeah, get the fark off my lawn.
 
2013-04-24 12:53:49 AM  
At first I was all like, "he ripped off the farking Cars?! Death is too good for him!"

Then I read, "Will.i.am admitted to borrowing a beat from the Arty and Mat Zo song 'Rebound' during an interview with KIIS-FM today. He sampled it for his own track 'Let's Go' featuring Chris Brown" and was all, "um, I think that's in English... I guess... who farking cares?"

Then I read, "I got in touch with Arty and showed it to him, did a different version to it because I asked him [to] make it newer, because I don't just want to take your song and rap over it. But in a year's time, time's gone by [and] we preferred writing over and using the [original] 'Rebound.'" and was like, "a year is long enough to warrant making a song 'newer'? WTF is this guy, a gallon of milk?"

Then I remembered, "oh, right... who farking cares?"
 
2013-04-24 12:57:58 AM  

Adalius: Party All The Time


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2013-04-24 12:58:42 AM  

Adalius: You mean he dodges the subject by essentially saying 'Oh I asked for a altered version of this a year ago, didn't get it, so just went ahead with the original without permission anyway' making it sound as if things just got mucked up? Please.

 The guy has jacked more shiat than Ma Barker. So far he's gotten sued or called out for not licensing on what... Voodoo Doll, Party All The Time, I Got It From My Momma (which he didn't rip off from some unknown, he stole freaking Daft Punk for that), Dance, the list goes on. What a wanker.


He's more of a dick about it than most, but how is what he does different from what his peers do? Most of it consists of sampling and remixing the work of others. Sure, there's some good remixes out there, but they're still just remixes. Playing with recordings made by others more talented than they are.
 
2013-04-24 01:06:27 AM  
He admitted to "borrowing" the beat?
Like he's going to give it back in better condition than it was "loaned" to him?
 
2013-04-24 01:11:55 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Adalius: Party All The Time

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Link
 
2013-04-24 01:12:55 AM  
www.wired.com
 
2013-04-24 01:16:33 AM  
I. Am. Shocked.
 
2013-04-24 01:22:04 AM  
 
2013-04-24 01:26:28 AM  
Is he the one in that band with the tranny that pisses herself?
 
2013-04-24 01:43:45 AM  

LectertheChef: He's more of a dick about it than most, but how is what he does different from what his peers do? Most of it consists of sampling and remixing the work of others. Sure, there's some good remixes out there, but they're still just remixes. Playing with recordings made by others more talented than they are.


Indeed. This particular incident must've been pretty blatant if he actually felt he need to say something about it - sampling is so rampant that one hardly even notices anymore.

/still a bit butthurt about "Never Been"
//MC Mitsuda 4 lyfe yo
///Schala lives
 
2013-04-24 01:45:44 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Is he the one in that band with the transformer that pisses herself?


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2013-04-24 02:46:43 AM  
Scum.
 
2013-04-24 03:17:21 AM  
What.a.coont

Honestly this guy is a walking minorly autistic shiat magnet that ruins good music....
 
2013-04-24 04:01:46 AM  

He.eats.shiat.wit.a.spoon.can.go.diaf

 
2013-04-24 04:01:47 AM  
Who cares.

Both tracks sucked anyway. I'm not sure why he even singled out such a dull, plodding tune.
 
2013-04-24 05:44:46 AM  

LewDux: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Is he the one in that band with the transformer that pisses herself?

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wow you sure don't understand Aesop OR cognitive dissonance do ya?

good use of the spacebar though.

5/10
 
2013-04-24 05:58:32 AM  
Who?
 
2013-04-24 07:23:17 AM  
Yes, he can?
 
2013-04-24 07:43:41 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: He.eats.shiat.wit.a.spoon.can.go.diaf


Wow, the Fork Fascists are here I see.
 
2013-04-24 08:25:29 AM  

LewDux: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Is he the one in that band with the transformer that pisses herself?

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Ah I see you're a fan of meth faced celebrities and terrible music.
 
2013-04-24 09:32:47 AM  

A Terrible Human: LewDux: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Is he the one in that band with the transformer that pisses herself?

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Ah I see you're a fan of meth faced celebrities and terrible music.


I'm totally inferior to you
 
2013-04-24 09:34:46 AM  
Plagiarizing while featuring Chris Brown?  As if I needed any more of a reason to hate this guy's "music."
 
2013-04-24 09:45:24 AM  
Why is this surprising?

Translated from the original latin, his name means Fark Dr. Seuss.
 
2013-04-24 09:53:58 AM  

LectertheChef: He's more of a dick about it than most, but how is what he does different from what his peers do? Most of it consists of sampling and remixing the work of others. Sure, there's some good remixes out there, but they're still just remixes. Playing with recordings made by others more talented than they are.


There's a fine and mostly undiscernable line when it comes to remixing.

For a good reference point I typically take something like Nine Inch Nails "broken" and "fixed" albums.  They're true remixes in that people took the masters and went to town.  The results are almost totally foreign from the originals.

Same with someone like King Tubby, but that's a little more cohesive in deference to the original.  He's taking the master tapes and without the benefit of non-linear editing he was manipulating to bring different elements into the output that had enough of his style to add his stamp of ownership on them.  When you hear something he has done you know it's him; there is no doubt about it.  It has his vibe, feel and style.

Unfortunately I think the biggest factor in remixes has become the reputation of the artist and not the final results of past work remixing.  You let some flavor of the week throw in a drum machine beat behind it and take a verse to rap over and suddenly it's considered something of value rather than evaluating the work as a whole.

Sampling when done well is an incredible experience.  In the late 80's the argument for it was pretty easy to make with the Beastie Boys and Public Enemy.  Unfortunately now it's nowhere near as easy with the proliferation of technology and no-talent ass-clowns.
 
2013-04-24 10:06:50 AM  
Pop will eat itself.
 
2013-04-24 10:48:38 AM  
Isn't this what every rapper does every day?
 
2013-04-24 10:53:10 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-24 11:03:56 AM  
How much is the RIAA charging wil.i.am for stealing music they didn't make?
 
2013-04-24 11:16:08 AM  

Glitchwerks: Poop will eat itself.


ftfy
 
2013-04-24 11:20:05 AM  
oi38.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-24 11:38:12 AM  

LewDux: I'm totally inferior to you


Lol wut?
 
kab
2013-04-24 11:40:04 AM  

LectertheChef: Isn't that what just about everybody does anymore though?


No.  No it isn't.
 
2013-04-24 11:50:16 AM  

LewDux: [oi38.tinypic.com image 641x700]


+1, would +1 again and again
 
2013-04-24 12:52:57 PM  
Given he's a manufactured artist from a manufactured band, I assume ALL of his material is either stolen or given to him.

His main purpose is to promote transhumanism while gettin' paid!
 
2013-04-24 01:06:23 PM  
Mazel tov!
 
2013-04-24 02:40:42 PM  

A Terrible Human: LewDux: I'm totally inferior to you

Lol wut?


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2013-04-24 03:48:33 PM  
There's a great Chris Rock quote about the music industry and stealing songs, etc. from other artists and I just can't think of it.

/bravo Subby
 
2013-04-24 11:18:22 PM  
This isn't bad.

According to article it is just "borrowing"

I am sure he planned to give the revenue to the artist he "borrowed" from.
 
2013-04-25 12:05:34 AM  

LectertheChef: Adalius: You mean he dodges the subject by essentially saying 'Oh I asked for a altered version of this a year ago, didn't get it, so just went ahead with the original without permission anyway' making it sound as if things just got mucked up? Please.

 The guy has jacked more shiat than Ma Barker. So far he's gotten sued or called out for not licensing on what... Voodoo Doll, Party All The Time, I Got It From My Momma (which he didn't rip off from some unknown, he stole freaking Daft Punk for that), Dance, the list goes on. What a wanker.

He's more of a dick about it than most, but how is what he does different from what his peers do? Most of it consists of sampling and remixing the work of others. Sure, there's some good remixes out there, but they're still just remixes. Playing with recordings made by others more talented than they are.


How is what he does different? Umm, again, he doesn't get permission to use it? Which the overwhelming majority of mainstream artists do simply because the financial stakes of getting busted not clearing samples? Not only that, but he's a repeat offender?

Imagine if you wrote an awesome song, and someone said "Hey, can I rap over that? Here's some cash for licensing." and you're like cool, take the cash, and feel awesome that your music is being noticed and reused making you more money. Then you write another song, and Will.i.am comes along and, quite quietly, starts rapping over it making money, without you ever giving him permission. Are you going to tell me that the guy who paid you is doing the same thing as Will.i.am just because they used it in the same way, even though they went about it completely opposite and one of them actually nets you income on something you worked hard on?
 
2013-04-25 12:56:09 AM  

Adalius: Imagine if you wrote an awesome song, and someone said "Hey, can I rap over that? Here's some cash for licensing." and you're like cool, take the cash, and feel awesome that your music is being noticed and reused making you more money. Then you write another song, and Will.i.am comes along and, quite quietly, starts rapping over it making money, without you ever giving him permission. Are you going to tell me that the guy who paid you is doing the same thing as Will.i.am just because they used it in the same way, even though they went about it completely opposite and one of them actually nets you income on something you worked hard on?


you guys seriously need to watch this

/no, watch the whole thing
//do you have any idea how pervasive sampling has been since the 80s?
 
2013-04-25 01:50:59 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: laststarfighter: Shouldn't there be some ban from releasing music as a result?

Anything that bans his music is a net positive for society.




fark you!

I prefer people that self-identify.
 
2013-04-25 09:43:10 AM  

Ishkur: Adalius: Imagine if you wrote an awesome song, and someone said "Hey, can I rap over that? Here's some cash for licensing." and you're like cool, take the cash, and feel awesome that your music is being noticed and reused making you more money. Then you write another song, and Will.i.am comes along and, quite quietly, starts rapping over it making money, without you ever giving him permission. Are you going to tell me that the guy who paid you is doing the same thing as Will.i.am just because they used it in the same way, even though they went about it completely opposite and one of them actually nets you income on something you worked hard on?

you guys seriously need to watch this

/no, watch the whole thing
//do you have any idea how pervasive sampling has been since the 80s?


I've seen that, as well as the movie Sample This. Even back in the 80's when sampling was starting to take off exponentially there was still legal teams getting them cleared when major labels put the albums out for sale or they pulled the songs. The only time you didn't see clearances even being looked at was up and coming artists that hadn't been signed to a major record label because small labels either didn't care or didn't have the time and money to pursue licensing. The question isn't whether sampling is pervasive, it's whether *unlicensed* sampling is pervasive *amongst major label* artists. And the answer is no, it's not.
 
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