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2013-04-23 04:24:37 PM  
Was it a lightningbolt?
 
2013-04-23 04:29:29 PM  
And these are the people breeding in great numbers .
 
2013-04-23 04:33:26 PM  
He fixed the cable?
 
2013-04-23 04:37:21 PM  
Mauled by a saber-toothed tiger?
 
2013-04-23 04:48:29 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


Well, I suppose they can stand to lose a few now and then, no?
 
2013-04-23 04:48:58 PM  
so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?
 
2013-04-23 04:49:48 PM  
Run over by the Popemobile?
 
2013-04-23 05:01:22 PM  
In a firefight outside of Mosul?
 
2013-04-23 05:04:59 PM  
Obama ate it?
 
2013-04-23 05:05:04 PM  
Was he the child I had to beat to death with his own shoe?  Hey, I really needed those brown M&M's...
 
2013-04-23 05:25:57 PM  
Bees?
 
2013-04-23 07:39:41 PM  
Clearly god did it. He would have saved them if he liked those kids.
 
2013-04-23 07:52:56 PM  
They were convicted of involuntary manslaughter the first time.

/hope they get Murder One with life for this one
 
2013-04-23 07:54:35 PM  
No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.
 
2013-04-23 08:06:19 PM  
A stampede of wild elephants?
In their living room?
Between 3:55 and 4:00 PM?
On the Fourth of July?
During a hail storm?


/and one baby zebra
 
2013-04-23 08:13:28 PM  

ManateeGag: so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?


Yes, because their imaginary friend says so.
 
2013-04-23 08:18:37 PM  
Allergic to stupidity?
 
2013-04-23 08:26:44 PM  

Ned Stark: Was it a lightningbolt?


lightningbolt!  lightningbolt!  lightningbolt!
 
2013-04-23 08:28:29 PM  
BUT PERSONAL FREEDOM WHARGARBL! (No, really. There are people who defend the practice of killing children in this manner as the religious freedom of the parents.)

I feel like things like this need to be viewed under the doctrine of "Where my nose begins is the place your right to swing stops.", so to speak. Children are not able to give informed consent, and are not able until at least the age of 10 to understand the gravity in the majority of cases of eskewing proven, life-saving medical care.

I also feel that when you want to treat your dying child using prayer, versus effective and proven therapies, it's the point where the courts and medical professionals need to step in. Letting a child die of DKA because you want to pray the sugars away is assinine.
 
2013-04-23 08:29:27 PM  
And yeah, I'm aware this kid died of bacterial sepsis. I'm just using another case.
 
2013-04-23 08:36:09 PM  
got run over by a crappy purple scion
 
2013-04-23 08:39:57 PM  

SpikeStrip: got run over by a crappy purple scion


Your choice of music is terrible.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-23 08:40:59 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


The mewling enema bags feel quite neglected.
 
2013-04-23 08:47:28 PM  
The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity
 
2013-04-23 08:50:58 PM  
They just pre-boarded. God's elite status.
 
2013-04-23 08:52:08 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


Well, breeding in great numbers, then having their children confiscated to be raised by someone else and stuck in jail for 10 years, so I'm not sure the social traits are going to be effectively passed on, there.
 
2013-04-23 08:52:16 PM  
www.truecrimereport.com

God, I am disappoint.
 
2013-04-23 08:52:16 PM  
Sweet!
oso.stanford.edu
 
2013-04-23 08:53:42 PM  
If only they had prayed harder.  Or, perhaps, they should not have pissed off their god.  Either way, the kids are probably better off.  At least now they will not be infected with Teh Stoopids.
 
2013-04-23 08:54:11 PM  
Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.
 
2013-04-23 08:54:24 PM  

gopher321: He fixed the cable?


i loled out loud.    bravo.
 
2013-04-23 08:54:44 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


I don't agree with that. Maybe they got the religion lottery correct and God actually hates medicine.

They'd be in the penthouse suite and the surgeons would be getting dino-raped.
 
2013-04-23 08:55:25 PM  

HighlanderRPI: The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity


Let me guess: they don't believe in birth control either?
 
2013-04-23 08:55:30 PM  
Imagine if they were Muslim.....
 
2013-04-23 08:55:35 PM  
Seven other kids. I want to go beat these people with a lead pipe. In the Conservatory.
 
2013-04-23 08:55:51 PM  
It is sad but this was God's will. We cannot know the way He works.

Thine will be done!
 
2013-04-23 08:56:18 PM  

King Something: A stampede of wild elephants?
In their living room?
Between 3:55 and 4:00 PM?
On the Fourth of July?
During a hail storm?


/and one baby zebra


The Aristocrats!
 
2013-04-23 08:56:51 PM  
I pray for boobs in my email

don't disappoint me again, god!
 
2013-04-23 08:57:37 PM  
this was obviously god's plan. what's the problem?
 
2013-04-23 08:58:05 PM  

rmatthewware: Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.


Christian Scientists and people who follow that belief are to Christianity  what Islamofascism is to Islam. It's fundamentalism, and most people aren't that stupid that they can't seperate the two. On the other hand, this seems to be a selective argument people make when THEIR chosen favorite religious belief is under attack, and not the more popular to hate one.

At any rate, rationality and tolerance does not mean that people have to tolerate intolerance and stupidity.
 
2013-04-23 08:58:46 PM  

rmatthewware: Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.


SOME?
 
2013-04-23 08:59:10 PM  
See?  They prayed and prayed and prayed and their kids are no longer sick.  I mean, they're dead, but they're no longer sick.
 
2013-04-23 08:59:15 PM  
FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.
 
2013-04-23 08:59:35 PM  

johnnieconnie: They were convicted of involuntary manslaughter the first time.

/hope they get Murder One with life for this one


From TFA:

"They have not been charged, as authorities are waiting on autopsy results, but they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years."

10 years is bullshiat.  They killed two children and would likely kill the remaining seven if given the chance.  The correct response would be to infect them both with something horrible, then isolate them so that they can't spread it.  Wait a week or so for them to die.
 
2013-04-23 08:59:36 PM  

jayhawk88: Seven other kids. I want to go beat these people with a lead pipe. In the Conservatory.


Professor Plum? Is that you?
 
2013-04-23 08:59:57 PM  

rmatthewware: Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  ...... But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.


Who are you talking to?  I realize fark is rich in athiests and agnostics, but almost all of us recognize that most Christians are reasonable people.  You are like 75% of the US population after all.  There would be huge problems if most of you never went to or took your kids to hospitals.
 
2013-04-23 09:00:07 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: Let me guess: they don't believe in birth control either?


Most of these people tend to be followers of the Quiverfull movement in the modern age, mixed in with a healthy fear of the Government and belief in conspiracy theories.

They also tend to be overwhelmingly and often wilfully undereducated in sciences and humanities outside of their own narrow belief systems, which creates a "perfect storm of Derp".
 
2013-04-23 09:00:46 PM  

ManateeGag: so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?


flip side: parents' right to choose, but this is murder?
 
2013-04-23 09:00:46 PM  
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-23 09:01:03 PM  
A combination of Diptheria and Luther Vandross being played too loudly?
 
2013-04-23 09:03:57 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


Well, not as great as they could be.
 
2013-04-23 09:04:40 PM  

over_and_done: johnnieconnie: They were convicted of involuntary manslaughter the first time.

/hope they get Murder One with life for this one

From TFA:

"They have not been charged, as authorities are waiting on autopsy results, but they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years."

10 years is bullshiat.  They killed two children and would likely kill the remaining seven if given the chance.  The correct response would be to infect them both with something horrible, then isolate them so that they can't spread it.  Wait a week or so for them to die.


And they could spend that time praying and in quiet reflection. Maybe at the end of the week they would learn how wrong they were, but they would still be dead. And the world and their surviving children would be better off.
 
2013-04-23 09:05:21 PM  

ManateeGag: so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?


You have to understand something about the Anti-abortion movement. It's not about "unborn life" in the least. It's about forcing births - both to "punish" people they view as sinful for their acts, and to have more of a base to build their followers upon. Especially when you delve into the pro-birthers that subscribe to the "Christian identity" and "Quiverfull" phillosophies, they care about breeding followers for their "Army of God". They care fark-all about those babies after they are spit out from the womb - this shows in the typical overlap of beliefs against intervention against socioeconomic disparity and the lack of healthcare.

This is why no one should be using pro-life to describe these people. They do NOT care about that life after it's quiefed out.
 
2013-04-23 09:05:28 PM  
I'm guessing three possible responses from religious fundies are.

1. They aren't real Christians (No True Scottsman variant)
2. God works in mysterious ways (The government has no jurisdiction due to religious freedom)
3. They're whackos (*)

(*) assumes some religious fundies are capable of rational thought.
 
2013-04-23 09:05:31 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: HighlanderRPI: The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity

Let me guess: they don't believe in birth control either?


It seems like their method has worked twice.
 
2013-04-23 09:05:55 PM  
A firefight in Boston?
 
2013-04-23 09:06:10 PM  
Bees?  Was it bees?  I bet it was bees.
 
2013-04-23 09:07:18 PM  
Because of dark wizards?
 
2013-04-23 09:07:20 PM  
But on the plus side, the gene pool just got smarter
 
2013-04-23 09:08:22 PM  
On the plus side, they won't have to suffer through Obamacare...
 
2013-04-23 09:08:31 PM  
Sudden Infant Derp Syndrome
 
2013-04-23 09:08:49 PM  
I don't see the problem.  I normally flushed my #2 down the toilet.
 
2013-04-23 09:08:55 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Obama ate it?


I laughed.  Now I feel awful.
 
2013-04-23 09:09:39 PM  
Break parents legs then dump them in the woods let them pray there way out.
 
2013-04-23 09:09:39 PM  
More evidence that religion is child abuse.  This is perhaps the most heinous of examples.  But parents who teach their children that the earth is 6,000 years old, God hates them queers, etc. are other examples.  But even something as innocuous as faith being a legitimate substitute for evidence or teaching kids to believe in supernatural causes (the basis of religion) leaves impressionable young minds handicapped in the real world.

Religion IS child abuse.
 
2013-04-23 09:09:50 PM  
i303.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 09:10:18 PM  

hardinparamedic: SpikeStrip: got run over by a crappy purple scion

Your choice of music is terrible.


well, duh. let me show you my nickleback collection
 
2013-04-23 09:10:36 PM  
Silly fundies.  God gave us brains to find ways to live longer.  These are not God's people.  They've been taken by Satan.
 
2013-04-23 09:11:36 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


It's Evolution...
 
2013-04-23 09:12:45 PM  
If there IS a Heaven, what happens to all the babies (and fetuses) that end up there? Do they age? It would suck to be baby for eternity
 
2013-04-23 09:12:59 PM  

ManateeGag: so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?


Right-winters don't give a shiat about kids once they're outside of the mother.
 
2013-04-23 09:12:59 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


isn't that across the hall from the Weird Al memorial polka room?
 
2013-04-23 09:13:14 PM  
Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?
 
2013-04-23 09:13:14 PM  
Religion, proving that vaccinations aren't the actual cause of retardation.
 
2013-04-23 09:13:22 PM  
There's no excuse for this. i come from a little farm town in East Texas - and most of the people around there were deeply religious, and not exactly Mensa members, either. I doubt my grandmother ever read a book other than the Bible in her life.
But when they got sick, or hurt badly, they WENT TO A DAMN DOCTOR.
Religion does not excuse this in any way, shape, or form.
 
2013-04-23 09:13:35 PM  

Mega Steve: If there IS a Heaven, what happens to all the babies (and fetuses) that end up there? Do they age? It would suck to be baby for eternity


Diapers and oncall boobs in my mouth? Sign me up.
 
2013-04-23 09:14:01 PM  
Devoured by escaped velociraptors?
 
2013-04-23 09:14:13 PM  

vudukungfu: Sudden Infant Derp Syndrome


*snerk*
 
2013-04-23 09:14:13 PM  
Cripes... that church is about 3 miles from where my brother and his family used to live. Friggin' northeast Philly. Hardly a bastion of fundamentalist thought.  Religious kookery is everywhere.
 
2013-04-23 09:15:01 PM  

vudukungfu: Sudden Infant Derp Syndrome


I actually have SIDS.  I have to take medication to keep it under control.   The other day I forgot my meds and almost suffocated on my pillow.
 
2013-04-23 09:15:34 PM  

SpikeStrip: well, duh. let me show you my nickleback collection


You...you monster. PEOPLE LIKE YOU MURDERED THE JEWS!

jst3p: [i303.photobucket.com image 716x535]


*snerk* BABBYQUARIUM IS NOW IN PLAY!
 
2013-04-23 09:15:46 PM  
There's a guy in my office who is one of these religious nutbags. No modern medicine, just prayer. He was out once for 2 weeks with some hard cold. And he's got three kids in elementary school, so god knows what kinda sick they are bringing home with them. I think he's insane.

The parents here should be prosecuted for longer than 10 years. Like maybe 50. This goes up there with promoting that vaccinations will make your kids autistic.

fark em
 
2013-04-23 09:15:59 PM  
And people wonder why ObamaCare eschewed the Single Prayer System.
 
2013-04-23 09:16:26 PM  

ManateeGag: so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?


once they're born, they don't matter.
 
2013-04-23 09:17:09 PM  

boozehat: Imagine if they were Muslim.....


SHARIA LAW!!!
FOX News Special Report
 
2013-04-23 09:17:26 PM  

HighlanderRPI: The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity


Not anymore they don't. The state took them away. We believe in parental rights strongly enough to let them keep their kids when they kill one of them, but two is pushing it!
 
2013-04-23 09:17:41 PM  
Sterilize both of them so they can't reproduce again. If their prayers cure that then they can have kids again.
 
2013-04-23 09:17:44 PM  
Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.
 
2013-04-23 09:18:37 PM  

tuna fingers: Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?


You might have a point but you obviously DNRTA because this isn't some rare cancer, these deaths were bacterial pneumonia and the second hasn't been determined, but there was trouble breathing and diarrhea before the death.  They didn't even take the babies to the doctor for a farking opinion.
 
2013-04-23 09:18:41 PM  

phrawgh: It is sad but this was God's will. We cannot know the way He works.

Th

yine will be done!

/FTFY
 
2013-04-23 09:19:05 PM  

jst3p: [i303.photobucket.com image 716x535]


I recall seeing that picture before, but not the context...
 
2013-04-23 09:19:10 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


well-crafted, good sir.
 
2013-04-23 09:19:57 PM  

Bacontastesgood: rmatthewware: Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  ...... But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.

Who are you talking to?  I realize fark is rich in athiests and agnostics, but almost all of us recognize that most Christians are reasonable people.  You are like 75% of the US population after all.  There would be huge problems if most of you never went to or took your kids to hospitals.


I was raised as a Christian Scientist.

I got better.
 
2013-04-23 09:20:06 PM  

Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.


I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.
 
2013-04-23 09:20:28 PM  

jst3p:


Golfclap.
 
2013-04-23 09:21:05 PM  

CrAz3D: ManateeGag: so, this is OK, but abortion is murder?

flip side: parents' right to choose, but this is murder?


Most pro-choice people acknowledge/believe that human life does not begin at conception, so there's no inconsistency there.  The only way the other way makes sense is if pro-lifers believe life ends at birth.
 
2013-04-23 09:21:23 PM  
www.nationnews.com

They obviously prayed to the wrong god
 
2013-04-23 09:21:30 PM  
Wasn't Luke a physician? Doesn't that make them okay?
 
2013-04-23 09:21:45 PM  

hardinparamedic: jst3p: [i303.photobucket.com image 716x535]

*snerk* BABBYQUARIUM IS NOW IN PLAY!


Keeping it alive as long as I can!

/it's been over a year now
 
2013-04-23 09:23:08 PM  

Nem Wan: HighlanderRPI: The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity

Not anymore they don't. The state took them away. We believe in parental rights strongly enough to let them keep their kids when they kill one of them, but two is pushing it!


Well things haven't settled out yet, so maybe they can still get a trifecta.
 
2013-04-23 09:23:30 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.


I think you didn't read your Bible.  Everything that happened to Job was by God's hand, so he could win an argument with Satan.
 
2013-04-23 09:23:32 PM  

RedWineBuzz: Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.


And what's the first thing Buzz Aldrin did when he got to the moon? He celebrated Communion.

Science and religion are not opposites.
 
2013-04-23 09:23:39 PM  

farkmedown: Bacontastesgood: rmatthewware: Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  ...... But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.

Who are you talking to?  I realize fark is rich in athiests and agnostics, but almost all of us recognize that most Christians are reasonable people.  You are like 75% of the US population after all.  There would be huge problems if most of you never went to or took your kids to hospitals.

I was raised as a Christian Scientist.

I got better.


Thank God!
 
2013-04-23 09:23:50 PM  
If they cut themselves with a knife while chopping veggies in the kitchen, do they just kneel down and pray too?  If their kid falls down and hits their head, do they not put ice on the bump? Do they go to the dentist? Would they seek out eyeglasses? What is the muther farking hell is wrong with people!?!?!?!?
 
2013-04-23 09:24:26 PM  
I can only hope these bastards are put in jail long enough for the mother to be unable to have children.....and the father to get a free penectomy in prison.
 
2013-04-23 09:25:03 PM  

HeartBurnKid: HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.

I think you didn't read your Bible.  Everything that happened to Job was by God's hand, so he could win an argument with Satan.


uh no.... Satan was allowed to do anything too Job short of killing him... I think you need to brush up a bit... or were you trying to say God is guilty by proxy?
 
2013-04-23 09:25:17 PM  
The Bible's too wordy. The 10 Commandments are a load of shiat. You don't need all these things. The Bible should be one sheet of paper, and on that sheet of paper it should say: 'Try not to be a coont.'
-Jim Jeffries
 
2013-04-23 09:25:21 PM  
img.photobucket.com/No babies, live or dead, were injured in the making of this image.//The same, unfortunately, cannot be said of pixels.
 
2013-04-23 09:25:45 PM  

hardinparamedic: Most of these people tend to be followers of the Quiverfull movement...


That term says it all. These children are not born to be loved and nurtured- they're created to be weapons in some deluded fairy tale battle of 'good' versus 'evil'.
 
2013-04-23 09:25:45 PM  

TheOtherMisterP: RedWineBuzz: Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.

And what's the first thing Buzz Aldrin did when he got to the moon? He celebrated Communion.

Science and religion are not opposites.


Quite the contrary, religion was a main driving factor of science through the renaissance. It is more recent history that has shown a complete reverse of that.
 
2013-04-23 09:27:13 PM  
There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".
 
2013-04-23 09:27:15 PM  
Being religious is one thing, but being willfully ignorant is... pretty much the same thing.
 
2013-04-23 09:27:20 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.



This wasn't meant to bash, just to predict their reaction to being convicted.  They will think the deaths of their kids and their prison sentence is all part of God's glorious plan. But thanks for the correction.
 
2013-04-23 09:27:24 PM  
If God wills it, and God is infallible, then why did He create so many farking hospitals, doctors, nurses, and medicines? Did you also pray for food to be delivered by God, or did you get a job? When your car was broken, did you pray or find a mechanic? Fark, you child murderers, it's a real pity that hell doesn't exist, cause you belong there.
 
2013-04-23 09:27:34 PM  
Wow, God failed to come through twice? He must really hate those parents. Next time they better pray SUPER hard.
 
2013-04-23 09:27:52 PM  

jst3p: Mega Steve: If there IS a Heaven, what happens to all the babies (and fetuses) that end up there? Do they age? It would suck to be baby for eternity

Diapers and oncall boobs in my mouth? Sign me up.


and a teeny peener and no sex.

/send me downstairs please.
 
2013-04-23 09:28:25 PM  

12349876: tuna fingers: Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?

You might have a point but you obviously DNRTA because this isn't some rare cancer, these deaths were bacterial pneumonia and the second hasn't been determined, but there was trouble breathing and diarrhea before the death.  They didn't even take the babies to the doctor for a farking opinion.


I'll give them a farking opinion.
Sorry, your kid is dead.
$24,000... each.
$48,000
 
2013-04-23 09:29:08 PM  

Abox: HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.


This wasn't meant to bash, just to predict their reaction to being convicted.  They will think the deaths of their kids and their prison sentence is all part of God's glorious plan. But thanks for the correction.


oh I know, I was just being snarky... :)

/snarky is a word right?
 
2013-04-23 09:29:23 PM  

boozehat: Imagine if they were Muslim.....


Then nothing would have happened to them because freedom of religion any religion that
isn't Christianity. Or if there were consequences they would have amounted to a slap on
the wrist.
 
2013-04-23 09:29:37 PM  

TheOtherMisterP: RedWineBuzz: Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.

And what's the first thing Buzz Aldrin did when he got to the moon? He celebrated Communion.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-04-23 09:30:03 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


Yeah, but their kids die so no harm done.
 
2013-04-23 09:30:14 PM  

tuna fingers: 12349876: tuna fingers: Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?

You might have a point but you obviously DNRTA because this isn't some rare cancer, these deaths were bacterial pneumonia and the second hasn't been determined, but there was trouble breathing and diarrhea before the death.  They didn't even take the babies to the doctor for a farking opinion.

I'll give them a farking opinion.
Sorry, your kid is dead.
$24,000... each.
$48,000


They were sick before they died, you dumbass.
 
2013-04-23 09:32:41 PM  

LazerFish: Being religious is one thing, but being willfully ignorant is... pretty much the same thing.


In relation to TFA, that is drastically unfair. It can be argued that being religious is being 'willfully ignorant', but the vast majority of religious folks seek and follow the same medical advice as non-religious folks.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with what you said, but I think you should make your point independent of the characteristic of those who seek medical treatment.
 
2013-04-23 09:32:46 PM  
hardinparamedic: SpikeStrip: well, duh. let me show you my nickleback collection

You...you monster. PEOPLE LIKE YOU MURDERED THE JEWS!

jesus was listening to "bulletproof" by la roux on his iphone while being crucified
 
2013-04-23 09:32:48 PM  
If there are parents that deserve, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to be de-nutted and de-ovaried with a dull knife in front of a stadium crowd with cameras beaming the event to everyone across the planet, it's them.
 
2013-04-23 09:34:01 PM  
I am completely fed up with your insane, stupid p, illogical belief in an imaginary being putting REAL people in harms way. This bullshiat, perfectly legal. Weed? No. Two gay men want to get married? No. Seriously. LETS STOP TOLERATING this goat rodeo. Illiterate sheep farmers in the desert during the Stone Age have not a farking clue about how to live life in 2013.
 
2013-04-23 09:34:17 PM  
Ok, I'm fine with people being religious. But I'm pretty sure during the times I've been dragged to church, I've heard things like, "God helps those who help themselves." Like... I dunno... maybe taking a kid to a doctor, and THEN praying for the doctor to be able to do his job well.

I guess that's just too much logic for some people. Either that, or I was dragged to some pretty progressive sermons.
 
2013-04-23 09:34:31 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.


This wasn't meant to bash, just to predict their reaction to being convicted.  They will think the deaths of their kids and their prison sentence is all part of God's glorious plan. But thanks for the correction.

oh I know, I was just being snarky... :)

/snarky is a word right?


Oh wow, catch up on the FAQ.  You used a word that will get you banninated.
Have a nice break.
 
2013-04-23 09:34:48 PM  
This has got to be the slowest religion thread I have ever seen here... does gravity still work? Is water still wet?
 
2013-04-23 09:34:54 PM  
I think the 'Obvious' tag should have been more appropriate for this story.
 
2013-04-23 09:34:55 PM  
Prayer.. as effective as homeowners with guns in keeping crime down.
 
2013-04-23 09:35:02 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.


Participation is consent. Job's suffering was at God's hand. If I beat a child while my best fiend stands by and watches, would you split hairs as to responsibility?
 
2013-04-23 09:35:13 PM  
I have several friends who both don't believe in evolution, but will gladly accept the revolutions of modern science/medicine that have come from evolution.  At least they were committed to their beliefs. Good for them for sticking to their beliefs.  Hope they can sleep at night.
 
2013-04-23 09:35:22 PM  

12349876: tuna fingers: 12349876: tuna fingers: Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?

You might have a point but you obviously DNRTA because this isn't some rare cancer, these deaths were bacterial pneumonia and the second hasn't been determined, but there was trouble breathing and diarrhea before the death.  They didn't even take the babies to the doctor for a farking opinion.

I'll give them a farking opinion.
Sorry, your kid is dead.
$24,000... each.
$48,000

They were sick before they died, you dumbass.


Fine...  another 2k for the consultation.  each.
$52,000.
 
2013-04-23 09:36:19 PM  
I'm sure they will just keep pumping them out and letting them die.
 
2013-04-23 09:37:04 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-23 09:37:32 PM  

Shedim: TheOtherMisterP: RedWineBuzz: Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.

And what's the first thing Buzz Aldrin did when he got to the moon? He celebrated Communion.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]


Here you go (it's mentioned near the end). It's pretty well known that Aldrin celebrated communion. NASA didn't broadcast it because of an ongoing lawsuit at the time.
 
2013-04-23 09:38:10 PM  

Begoggle: boozehat: Imagine if they were Muslim.....

SHARIA LAW!!!
FOX News Special Report


Sorry, the answer we were looking for was, "he would still be alive".    "still be alive".

Next contestant.
 
2013-04-23 09:38:45 PM  

redsquid: HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.

Participation is consent. Job's suffering was at God's hand. If I beat a child while my best fiend stands by and watches, would you split hairs as to responsibility?


splitting hairs is tough... like really tough... you need like a really sharp scalpel or something...

/Let me know once you become infallible, unknowable, all-powerful, and all-present... then we can evaluate the merits of a mortal judging a being such as that.
 
2013-04-23 09:38:57 PM  
I want to see if they can pray away the damage of the years of assrape both of them should have coming.  Humanity will continue to stagnate in its own stupidity until we can eradicate religion.
 
2013-04-23 09:39:22 PM  
so..killed while sitting in his patrol car?


/got nuthin
 
2013-04-23 09:39:49 PM  

poonesfarm: Mauled by a saber-toothed tiger?


Attacked by an assailant wielding loganberries?
 
2013-04-23 09:41:10 PM  

tuna fingers: 12349876: tuna fingers: 12349876: tuna fingers: Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?

You might have a point but you obviously DNRTA because this isn't some rare cancer, these deaths were bacterial pneumonia and the second hasn't been determined, but there was trouble breathing and diarrhea before the death.  They didn't even take the babies to the doctor for a farking opinion.

I'll give them a farking opinion.
Sorry, your kid is dead.
$24,000... each.
$48,000

They were sick before they died, you dumbass.

Fine...  another 2k for the consultation.  each.
$52,000.


You must have a big ass to hold those ridiculously overblown numbers.  Even without insurance, a visit to a clinic and some antibiotics (assuming the bacterial pneumonia could have been treated this way) would be a 3 figure number and probably one closer to 2 figures than 4 figures.
 
2013-04-23 09:41:25 PM  

Nadie_AZ: In a firefight outside of Mosul?


Bitten by a møøse?

/I've heard their bites kan be nasti
 
2013-04-23 09:42:04 PM  

ciberido: poonesfarm: Mauled by a saber-toothed tiger?

Attacked by an assailant wielding loganberries?


www.quitecurious.com
 
2013-04-23 09:42:09 PM  

WhoIsPurpleGoo: Bees?


Resting after pining for the fjords?
 
2013-04-23 09:42:14 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-23 09:44:10 PM  

ciberido: WhoIsPurpleGoo: Bees?

Resting after pining for the fjords?


you know who else liked fjords?

www.bbc.co.uk
 
2013-04-23 09:44:21 PM  

12349876: tuna fingers: 12349876: tuna fingers: 12349876: tuna fingers: Better she died in a hospital after her parents were bled out of all of their money?

I think they made a solid personal solution, subby.  Why do you hate freedom so much?

You might have a point but you obviously DNRTA because this isn't some rare cancer, these deaths were bacterial pneumonia and the second hasn't been determined, but there was trouble breathing and diarrhea before the death.  They didn't even take the babies to the doctor for a farking opinion.

I'll give them a farking opinion.
Sorry, your kid is dead.
$24,000... each.
$48,000

They were sick before they died, you dumbass.

Fine...  another 2k for the consultation.  each.
$52,000.

You must have a big ass to hold those ridiculously overblown numbers.  Even without insurance, a visit to a clinic and some antibiotics (assuming the bacterial pneumonia could have been treated this way) would be a 3 figure number and probably one closer to 2 figures than 4 figures.



$52,000 to save my childrens' lives??  no way!!!!  I'll just ask my imaginary friend to help out....

oh fark, they're dead?  good thing we've got 5 extras!
 
2013-04-23 09:44:58 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-04-23 09:46:33 PM  

IntertubeUser: More evidence that religion is child abuse.  This is perhaps the most heinous of examples.  But parents who teach their children that the earth is 6,000 years old, God hates them queers, etc. are other examples.  But even something as innocuous as faith being a legitimate substitute for evidence or teaching kids to believe in supernatural causes (the basis of religion) leaves impressionable young minds handicapped in the real world.

Religion IS child abuse.


I think that's needs to be qualified. Religion itself is not the problem.  It's an idea. You can't get rid of ideas.  We were once going to bomb Communism out of existence in Vietnam. That was a stated goal. How did that work out?

It's the creators and practitioners of various religion that we should take issue with.

We're all down on Catholicism because of pedophilia, right? I rent 3 houses to Catholic Communities Charities Services.  Have for a while.  They do good things.  Very similar to the Section 8 program. Should I have said no because it was Catholic? By the way the Catholic church feeds a lot of people. In the 6 to 7 digit range. Say no to it?

These people are nutters, but don't paint a broad stroke against religion. Get after the nutters. Most religious people feel an obligation to do the golden rule.
 
2013-04-23 09:47:20 PM  
This is why gays shouldn't have babbies!
 
2013-04-23 09:47:48 PM  
Hey!!!! Not fair!!! Only losing 2 out of 7 is better than a 75% success rate. Prayer works, people! Embrace God!
 
2013-04-23 09:47:53 PM  
Playing Quidditch with Baby Quinn:

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 09:47:57 PM  

jayhawk88: Seven other kids. I want to go beat these people with a lead pipe. In the Conservatory.


We'll just sterilize them.  I got an arc welder in the garage doing nothing.
 
2013-04-23 09:49:38 PM  
Playing catch with Baby Quinn:


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 09:49:54 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


Then maybe it's for the best that they "pray" over them instead of taking them to doctors. If they all die as children before they can breed more super-fundies, then....
 
2013-04-23 09:49:56 PM  
i303.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 09:50:18 PM  
Drat! I meant 2 out of 9. Satan put bad math in my head.
 
2013-04-23 09:50:18 PM  
Playing football with Baby Quinn:


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 09:50:37 PM  
djkutch:  Most religious people normal humans feel an obligation to do the golden rule.
 
2013-04-23 09:51:04 PM  
Playing soccer with Baby Quinn:

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 09:51:43 PM  

Mock26: Playing Quidditch with Baby Quinn:

[img.photobucket.com image 640x370]


Thats my second favorite.

/Free Quinn is my fav
 
2013-04-23 09:54:17 PM  
So long as the minimum prerequisite for parenthood is penis and vagina, this will occur. Go visit a neonatal intensive care unit and easily half those babies fetuses are there because of teenage motherhood, smoking, drugs, lack of prenatal care, etc. Now that I think of it, that's probably true for special ed classes and prison as well.
 
2013-04-23 09:55:57 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .

Well, I suppose they can stand to lose a few now and then, no?


From TFA:

Their seven other kids were removed from the home

Seems like they had plenty of spares.
 
2013-04-23 09:56:12 PM  

hawcian: Here you go (it's mentioned near the end). It's pretty well known that Aldrin celebrated communion. NASA didn't broadcast it because of an ongoing lawsuit at the time.


Thanks - I didn't know that.

Not to threadjack, what makes people decide to stop using services they clearly benefited from when they were kids? I mean, surely their parents were just as religious and they still would've taken them to the doctor if they got sick... right?
 
2013-04-23 09:57:16 PM  
Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.
 
2013-04-23 09:59:14 PM  

jaytkay: Sweet!
[oso.stanford.edu image 178x314]


except for their other seven kids.

Darwin needs to step his game up.
 
2013-04-23 09:59:35 PM  

jst3p: /Free Quinn is my fav


I am a terrible person cause I only started laughing when I saw that one.
 
2013-04-23 10:00:48 PM  

SpikeStrip: got run over by a crappy purple scion


Foolishly attacked a gazebo without rolling up a fire mage first.
 
2013-04-23 10:00:51 PM  

Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.


just think how healthy clowns must be...
 
2013-04-23 10:01:17 PM  

King Something: A stampede of wild elephants?
In their living room?
Between 3:55 and 4:00 PM?
On the Fourth of July?
During a hail storm?


/and one baby zebra


A black eye during the above.
 
2013-04-23 10:01:40 PM  
A man was in his three-story house one day when a flood started. After a bit, a police car came by and the policemen asked him to evacuate with them so that he would be saved. He said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming up, and the man went upstairs and leaned out his window. A fire department boat came by, and the fireman asked him to get in so that he would be saved. Again, the man said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming, and the man was forced up to his roof. A Coast Guard helicopter came by, and a rescue swimmer came down to offer the man a hand up. But the man waved the swimmer off, and he shouted up as loud as he could "I will pray and God will save me!"

The house was quickly washed away, and the man drowned.

At Judgement, the man asked God why God had not saved him, and God replied "I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter - what more did you want?"

This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters.
 
2013-04-23 10:02:14 PM  
Free Quinn!


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 10:02:15 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.

just think how healthy clowns must be...


Clowns aren't funny
 
2013-04-23 10:02:42 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .

Well, I suppose they can stand to lose a few now and then, no?


It's another blessing from God.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:09 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Prayer.. as effective as homeowners with guns in keeping crime down.


Keep farking that chicken
 
2013-04-23 10:03:57 PM  
When God gives you a life preserver,

Take it.

/that's all I have to say
 
2013-04-23 10:04:38 PM  

whatshisname: HindiDiscoMonster: Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.

just think how healthy clowns must be...

Clowns aren't funny


in all fairness.... they are funny looking.
 
2013-04-23 10:05:30 PM  

jst3p: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".


If I do it sure as hell won't be because we didn't do everything possible to save our child. I have very little sympathy for morons who sit around a dying child praying instead of picking up the goddamn cell phone and calling 911.
 
2013-04-23 10:06:21 PM  
2 down, 7 left.
The odds are with 'em, unlike God apparently.
 
2013-04-23 10:06:58 PM  

trickymoo: There's a guy in my office who is one of these religious nutbags. No modern medicine, just prayer. He was out once for 2 weeks with some hard cold. And he's got three kids in elementary school, so god knows what kinda sick they are bringing home with them. I think he's insane.

The parents here should be prosecuted for longer than 10 years. Like maybe 50. This goes up there with promoting that vaccinations will make your kids autistic.

fark em


A friend from my school days hit her head getting out of the car and went blind for three weeks. Her parents took her to an optometrist (the only doctor they believed in) and he was like, "Are you kidding? I can't do crap about this. Take her to a doctor!" They just waited it out and luckily her brain swelling went down and her sight came back.

Interestingly enough, all their kids are academic scientists now.
 
2013-04-23 10:07:06 PM  

netgamer7k: When God gives you a life preserver,

Take it.

/that's all I have to say


I wonder what a devout christian would do if that God was Vishnu?
 
2013-04-23 10:07:45 PM  
Pray the sick away? Something, something, two boats and a helicopter.

/That's the only religious joke that cracks me up
//Hope these asshats get beat up in prison
 
2013-04-23 10:08:17 PM  
Evolution in action.

Gosh, what a surprise.
 
2013-04-23 10:08:33 PM  
Why are these people morons...DOCTORS ARE THE ANSWERS TO YOUR PRAYERS F*CKING IDIOTS!!!
 
2013-04-23 10:08:35 PM  
Drone strike?
 
2013-04-23 10:09:07 PM  

djkutch: I think that's needs to be qualified. Religion itself is not the problem.  It's an idea. You can't get rid of ideas.  We were once going to bomb Communism out of existence in Vietnam. That was a stated goal. How did that work out?


That was stupid too.

So?
 
2013-04-23 10:09:26 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: If I do it sure as hell won't be because we didn't do everything possible to save our child. I have very little sympathy for morons who sit around a dying child praying instead of picking up the goddamn cell phone and calling 911.


Dude it's a quote from a guy who was very angry Fark wasn't sad about that Duggar woman losing her 20th kid and then decided to parade his dead kids remains on Fark to show everyone why he was angry. It was like wearing a meat suit in front of starving wolves.
 
2013-04-23 10:10:11 PM  

PanicMan: Bees?  Was it bees?  I bet it was bees.


gorillafilmmagazineblog.files.wordpress.com
Approves.
 
2013-04-23 10:10:16 PM  

Mock26: netgamer7k: When God gives you a life preserver,

Take it.

/that's all I have to say

I wonder what a devout christian would do if that God was Vishnu?


probably look very confused... i mean which hand do you shake?
 
2013-04-23 10:11:46 PM  

plavacek: A man was in his three-story house one day when a flood started. After a bit, a police car came by and the policemen asked him to evacuate with them so that he would be saved. He said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming up, and the man went upstairs and leaned out his window. A fire department boat came by, and the fireman asked him to get in so that he would be saved. Again, the man said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming, and the man was forced up to his roof. A Coast Guard helicopter came by, and a rescue swimmer came down to offer the man a hand up. But the man waved the swimmer off, and he shouted up as loud as he could "I will pray and God will save me!"

The house was quickly washed away, and the man drowned.

At Judgement, the man asked God why God had not saved him, and God replied "I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter - what more did you want?"

This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters.


*shakes tiny fist*

Beat me to it.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:52 PM  
Kinda reminds me of the rebels in Syria who chant akbars over and over while shells fall on them, their children, local farm animals, and blow them all to hell. Not really "great" if he's letting you get pwned. But yes, blind faith is moranic, and guess what? You can chant and have the local shaman come over and waggle his dick while he dances around your child's bed while burning strange local foliage and speaking in tongues, but you're still an idiot, and nobody is listening, and as these people found out the hard way, BOTH of their kids died horrible painful deaths. Stupid like this shouldn't breed. Nice job.
 
2013-04-23 10:13:11 PM  
If more people thought this way(starting now), there would be fewer stupid people.
I mean, is it that the smart people are too smart to reproduce, or is it that the stupid just can't seem to not fnck?
 
2013-04-23 10:14:31 PM  

trickymoo: There's a guy in my office who is one of these religious nutbags. No modern medicine, just prayer. He was out once for 2 weeks with some hard cold. And he's got three kids in elementary school, so god knows what kinda sick they are bringing home with them. I think he's insane.

The parents here should be prosecuted for longer than 10 years. Like maybe 50. This goes up there with promoting that vaccinations will make your kids autistic.

fark em


Bonus in that his ignorance is endangering the rest of us by helping the spread of disease.

People like this are the most selfish farktards out there.  I always hope that I'm wrong about the whole "god" thing just so that I can see these farkers burn in hell for hurting so many people.
 
2013-04-23 10:14:34 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


At least it seems to be correcting itself at last.
 
2013-04-23 10:14:49 PM  

plavacek: This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches


No, it's not, you farking moran.

There are plenty of things about fundamentalist beliefs to criticize, but your post is basically as moranic as those very same beliefs. What you wrote was a very old joke. Grow the fark up.
 
2013-04-23 10:15:29 PM  
Jesus himself would probably facepalm these fundies. I grew up in an independent, fundamentalist, southern baptist church and my god...the people there.
They were all so dumb.
 
2013-04-23 10:15:32 PM  

TheOtherMisterP: RedWineBuzz: Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.

And what's the first thing Buzz Aldrin did when he got to the moon? He celebrated Communion.

Science and religion are not opposites.


How did the communion get him there?
 
2013-04-23 10:16:43 PM  

theknuckler_33: If they cut themselves with a knife while chopping veggies in the kitchen, do they just kneel down and pray too?  If their kid falls down and hits their head, do they not put ice on the bump? Do they go to the dentist? Would they seek out eyeglasses? What is the muther farking hell is wrong with people!?!?!?!?


/They are looking for a miracle, and think that just because a book written by man tells them so, there is an invisible sky wizard that will swoop down and save their child, if they just pray and believe enough.  The sad thing is, even after losing two children through "healing by prayer" that obviously didn't work, they will defend their failure as good parents by saying "Yes, we prayed, but it was God's will they die".  Last argument of a blind faith fundie.
 
2013-04-23 10:16:49 PM  

theknuckler_33: plavacek: This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches

No, it's not, you farking moran.

There are plenty of things about fundamentalist beliefs to criticize, but your post is basically as moranic as those very same beliefs. What you wrote was a very old joke. Grow the fark up.


remember the Alamo...
 
2013-04-23 10:17:26 PM  
HindiDiscoMonster: Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.

just think how healthy clowns must be...


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-04-23 10:17:46 PM  

Ronin_S: plavacek: A man was in his three-story house one day when a flood started. After a bit, a police car came by and the policemen asked him to evacuate with them so that he would be saved. He said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming up, and the man went upstairs and leaned out his window. A fire department boat came by, and the fireman asked him to get in so that he would be saved. Again, the man said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming, and the man was forced up to his roof. A Coast Guard helicopter came by, and a rescue swimmer came down to offer the man a hand up. But the man waved the swimmer off, and he shouted up as loud as he could "I will pray and God will save me!"

The house was quickly washed away, and the man drowned.

At Judgement, the man asked God why God had not saved him, and God replied "I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter - what more did you want?"

This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters.

*shakes tiny fist*

Beat me to it.


I guess my snark meter is defective.
 
2013-04-23 10:18:07 PM  

Ronin_S: plavacek: A man was in his three-story house one day when a flood started. After a bit, a police car came by and the policemen asked him to evacuate with them so that he would be saved. He said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming up, and the man went upstairs and leaned out his window. A fire department boat came by, and the fireman asked him to get in so that he would be saved. Again, the man said, "No thanks - I will pray and God will save me."

The water kept coming, and the man was forced up to his roof. A Coast Guard helicopter came by, and a rescue swimmer came down to offer the man a hand up. But the man waved the swimmer off, and he shouted up as loud as he could "I will pray and God will save me!"

The house was quickly washed away, and the man drowned.

At Judgement, the man asked God why God had not saved him, and God replied "I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter - what more did you want?"

This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters.

*shakes tiny fist*

Beat me to it.


came for this
 
2013-04-23 10:18:34 PM  

ultraholland: HindiDiscoMonster: Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.

just think how healthy clowns must be...

[cache.ohinternet.com image 600x449]


i think those two are a little too healthy...
 
2013-04-23 10:21:19 PM  
djkutch:

....mentioning catholicism...

These people are nutters, but don't paint a broad stroke against religion. Get after the nutters. Most religious people feel an obligation to do the golden rule.

If you don't mind, I'd like to interject something about Catholicism as I knew it growing up.  Somehow in my youth I went to a progressive parish that focused on social justice.  The sermons derived to helping the poor and doing good deeds and doing good deeds and assisting the poor, and pray to god.  It wasn't until high school that I learned my cousins encountered a different Catholicism.  A righteous, anti-abortion, brimstone and fire Catholicism.  I think my liberal Catholicism is vanishing... I think the Vatican II  (initially anyway) allowed for some progressive teachings.
I think that is gone now.
I don't really give a fark anymore, as I no longer believe in shiat, but I just know that I had a different upraising of what the church was/could be in the 70s and 80s.
 
2013-04-23 10:22:55 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: theknuckler_33: If they cut themselves with a knife while chopping veggies in the kitchen, do they just kneel down and pray too?  If their kid falls down and hits their head, do they not put ice on the bump? Do they go to the dentist? Would they seek out eyeglasses? What is the muther farking hell is wrong with people!?!?!?!?

/They are looking for a miracle, and think that just because a book written by man tells them so, there is an invisible sky wizard that will swoop down and save their child, if they just pray and believe enough.  The sad thing is, even after losing two children through "healing by prayer" that obviously didn't work, they will defend their failure as good parents by saying "Yes, we prayed, but it was God's will they die".  Last argument of a blind faith fundie.


My point was that there must be some kind of line. Do they actually give food to their kids? That is clearly advice of the medical community. If their child sprains their ankle or blows out their knee... WTF?!?! Where is the line? Any line at all flies in the face of their bullshiat. Essentially, they should just sit and do nothing but pray. Why do they work? Why do they go to the grocery store? They are farking idiots.
 
2013-04-23 10:24:13 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.


Satan had God's approval. I think Satan has the few of Job's relatives attributed to him. God killed 2.4 million, with estimates over 24 million.
 
2013-04-23 10:25:19 PM  
The best thing that can happen is both of them spend the next 10 years in prison getting beaten and raped on a daily basis.  They are of course free to pray all they want for "god" to help them out of the situation.. we see how that's worked out so far.

7 other kids? god damn -- pull out every once and while... although with their record, maybe 1 or two of the kids would reach adulthood if allowed to stay with their natural nutjob parents.


The fact there are still people in the world that behave this way shows just how far we have to go in terms of progress in the human race.
 
2013-04-23 10:25:23 PM  

Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.


i'll bite....

what's the second?

or is this like #2 with the underpants nomes?
 
2013-04-23 10:25:38 PM  

skullkrusher: came for this


Do me a solid and fill me in?
 
2013-04-23 10:26:05 PM  
The fools should be hanging from a tree.
 
2013-04-23 10:26:32 PM  
Trampled at a gay pride rally?
 
2013-04-23 10:27:15 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: came for this

Do me a solid and fill me in?


What? I came to post that joke, saw that someone else already did it, didn't bother
 
2013-04-23 10:27:49 PM  

srhp29: DOCTORS ARE THE ANSWERS TO YOUR PRAYERS F*CKING IDIOTS!!!


We can tell they've figured this out by their bills.
 
2013-04-23 10:27:59 PM  

theknuckler_33: Bit'O'Gristle: theknuckler_33: If they cut themselves with a knife while chopping veggies in the kitchen, do they just kneel down and pray too?  If their kid falls down and hits their head, do they not put ice on the bump? Do they go to the dentist? Would they seek out eyeglasses? What is the muther farking hell is wrong with people!?!?!?!?

/They are looking for a miracle, and think that just because a book written by man tells them so, there is an invisible sky wizard that will swoop down and save their child, if they just pray and believe enough.  The sad thing is, even after losing two children through "healing by prayer" that obviously didn't work, they will defend their failure as good parents by saying "Yes, we prayed, but it was God's will they die".  Last argument of a blind faith fundie.

My point was that there must be some kind of line. Do they actually give food to their kids? That is clearly advice of the medical community. If their child sprains their ankle or blows out their knee... WTF?!?! Where is the line? Any line at all flies in the face of their bullshiat. Essentially, they should just sit and do nothing but pray. Why do they work? Why do they go to the grocery store? They are farking idiots.


/yes, they work, give food to the kids, but i would imagine anything beyond a scrape or cut, like an infection, or as in this case, worse, that would be impossible for the parents to fix at home, they choose to rock back and forth and chant useless mumbo jumbo, when taking the poor kid to the hospital to get a shot probably would have saved his life. This is the mind set of religious fundies. Pray hard enough..and god will miracle your child better. I would like to think that at this point, after killing two of their children through proper medical care, they would have learned. But sadly, as i said before, they are, I'll bet you, saying its god's will that they died. Way to pass the buck for your ignorance.
 
2013-04-23 10:28:57 PM  

Churchy LaFemme: HighlanderRPI: The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity

Let me guess: they don't believe in birth control either?


If god wanted you not to have kids he'd have miracled your balls off.
 
2013-04-23 10:30:30 PM  
My adoptive parents were the same variety of derp of these two asshole parents.  When my dad broke my nose, he let it heal on it's own.  I prayed for days for the pain to stop - didn't happen.  At the tender age of 7 that was the incident that started to open my eyes that my adoptive parents were full of shiat.  Hopefully their surviving children are able to get out and stay of that craziness.
 
2013-04-23 10:31:03 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


You are too generous. I would add to that torment the task of eliciting an emotion from Kristen Stewart.
 
2013-04-23 10:31:07 PM  

Mellotiger: Trampled at a gay pride rally?


Party favors, at the rally.
 
2013-04-23 10:32:08 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: came for this

Do me a solid and fill me in?

What? I came to post that joke, saw that someone else already did it, didn't bother


Just curious, but didn't the 'joke' end with "what more did you want?" from the OP?

It was the bit after that that threw me off.
 
2013-04-23 10:34:21 PM  
IS THERE ANYTHING THIS FICTIONAL CHARACTER CAN'T DO???



/i be trollin'
//Jesus be hatin'
 
2013-04-23 10:34:41 PM  

queen biatch of the universe: My adoptive parents were the same variety of derp of these two asshole parents.  When my dad broke my nose, he let it heal on it's own.  I prayed for days for the pain to stop - didn't happen.  At the tender age of 7 that was the incident that started to open my eyes that my adoptive parents were full of shiat.  Hopefully their surviving children are able to get out and stay of that craziness.


That's horrible.
What type of adoptive parents were they?
a.  True family
b.  Friends of family
c.  Some lowlife foster home providers that chose to foster so they could stay at home and not have to work?

I hate that c type.  While there exists some good foster homes, some just do it to avoid working in the real world.
 
2013-04-23 10:35:03 PM  

JungleBoogie: Devoured by escaped velociraptors?


Coupled with a shocking lack of familiarity with Unix, yes.
 
2013-04-23 10:36:13 PM  
Where has Bevets been? Is he dead? I miss his comedy. In another thousand years when we are all dead the only religion will be do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And rainbows, lollipops, and occasional sunshine.
 
2013-04-23 10:36:17 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.

isn't that across the hall from the Weird Al memorial polka room?


They didn't like the Nehru jacket he was wearing. He got into heaven, but they gave him the room next to the noisy ice machine.
 
2013-04-23 10:38:10 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: theknuckler_33: Bit'O'Gristle: theknuckler_33: If they cut themselves with a knife while chopping veggies in the kitchen, do they just kneel down and pray too?  If their kid falls down and hits their head, do they not put ice on the bump? Do they go to the dentist? Would they seek out eyeglasses? What is the muther farking hell is wrong with people!?!?!?!?

/They are looking for a miracle, and think that just because a book written by man tells them so, there is an invisible sky wizard that will swoop down and save their child, if they just pray and believe enough.  The sad thing is, even after losing two children through "healing by prayer" that obviously didn't work, they will defend their failure as good parents by saying "Yes, we prayed, but it was God's will they die".  Last argument of a blind faith fundie.

My point was that there must be some kind of line. Do they actually give food to their kids? That is clearly advice of the medical community. If their child sprains their ankle or blows out their knee... WTF?!?! Where is the line? Any line at all flies in the face of their bullshiat. Essentially, they should just sit and do nothing but pray. Why do they work? Why do they go to the grocery store? They are farking idiots.

/yes, they work, give food to the kids, but i would imagine anything beyond a scrape or cut, like an infection, or as in this case, worse, that would be impossible for the parents to fix at home, they choose to rock back and forth and chant useless mumbo jumbo, when taking the poor kid to the hospital to get a shot probably would have saved his life. This is the mind set of religious fundies. Pray hard enough..and god will miracle your child better. I would like to think that at this point, after killing two of their children through proper medical care, they would have learned. But sadly, as i said before, they are, I'll bet you, saying its god's will that they died. Way to pass the buck for your ignorance.


I'm just not even giving them a pass for home remedies. Why are doctor/hospital remedies against their faith but a bandaid, icepack, or any other dozens of home 'remedies' ok?  Their beliefs are hollow and have zero basis in theology, let alone logic.
 
2013-04-23 10:38:12 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: came for this

Do me a solid and fill me in?

What? I came to post that joke, saw that someone else already did it, didn't bother

Just curious, but didn't the 'joke' end with "what more did you want?" from the OP?

It was the bit after that that threw me off.


He ended with "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters."

I prolly would've just posted the story because I think it's a cute little story but I agreed with the rest too.

Then someone shook a tiny fist and I kinda jumped on the end of that in tiny fist shaking agreement
 
2013-04-23 10:39:44 PM  
It works, it's just that God is kind of a dick and wants most people to die from various illnesses and ailments.
He created them for a reason, you know.
 
2013-04-23 10:42:16 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: came for this

Do me a solid and fill me in?

What? I came to post that joke, saw that someone else already did it, didn't bother

Just curious, but didn't the 'joke' end with "what more did you want?" from the OP?

It was the bit after that that threw me off.

He ended with "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters."

I prolly would've just posted the story because I think it's a cute little story but I agreed with the rest too.

Then someone shook a tiny fist and I kinda jumped on the end of that in tiny fist shaking agreement


I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.
 
2013-04-23 10:42:24 PM  
How stupid are these damned "religious" people?
Medicine vs Prayer - Curative results = 1,000,000:1. I am going to choose medicine.
If "God" exists, and it created people, and people created advanced medicine; therefore, "God" created medicine (by proxy...) Use the tools available.
 
2013-04-23 10:44:51 PM  

rmatthewware: Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.


Climb down off your cross, no one was blaming Christianity.
 
2013-04-23 10:47:28 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: /Let me know once you become infallible, unknowable, all-powerful, and all-present... then we can evaluate the merits of a mortal judging a being such as that.


If I see you burning ants with a magnifying glass, I can still judge that you are an asshat.  If a being such as you describe created a living being fully intending to cruelly and painfully destroy it and/or punish it for eternity, he/she/it too is an asshat.
 
2013-04-23 10:49:32 PM  
Those times your babies were dying? I was on the beach leaving footprints in the sand. Next time maybe you should call a doctor.
 
2013-04-23 10:49:56 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: came for this

Do me a solid and fill me in?

What? I came to post that joke, saw that someone else already did it, didn't bother

Just curious, but didn't the 'joke' end with "what more did you want?" from the OP?

It was the bit after that that threw me off.

He ended with "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters."

I prolly would've just posted the story because I think it's a cute little story but I agreed with the rest too.

Then someone shook a tiny fist and I kinda jumped on the end of that in tiny fist shaking agreement

I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.


I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.
 
2013-04-23 10:52:59 PM  

Mock26: netgamer7k: When God gives you a life preserver,

Take it.

/that's all I have to say

I wonder what a devout christian would do if that God was Vishnu?


or Kali
negociatas.vivyanefernando.info
Mola Ram
/Sula Ram
//Toya Ram
 
2013-04-23 10:53:28 PM  

Arumat: HindiDiscoMonster: /Let me know once you become infallible, unknowable, all-powerful, and all-present... then we can evaluate the merits of a mortal judging a being such as that.

If I see you burning ants with a magnifying glass, I can still judge that you are an asshat.  If a being such as you describe created a living being fully intending to cruelly and painfully destroy it and/or punish it for eternity, he/she/it too is an asshat.


i never said you couldn't do that... all i said was that you have about as much right to as an ant does judging a human for spraying raid all over the place.
 
2013-04-23 10:54:43 PM  

Omahawg: I pray for boobs in my email

don't disappoint me again, god!



You're obviously doing it wrong...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-23 10:54:47 PM  

tuna fingers: queen biatch of the universe: My adoptive parents were the same variety of derp of these two asshole parents.  When my dad broke my nose, he let it heal on it's own.  I prayed for days for the pain to stop - didn't happen.  At the tender age of 7 that was the incident that started to open my eyes that my adoptive parents were full of shiat.  Hopefully their surviving children are able to get out and stay of that craziness.

That's horrible.
What type of adoptive parents were they?
a.  True family
b.  Friends of family
c.  Some lowlife foster home providers that chose to foster so they could stay at home and not have to work?

I hate that c type.  While there exists some good foster homes, some just do it to avoid working in the real world.


Not sure what you mean about true family?  I was adopted as an infant though a private Christian based adoption agency that was heavy tied to Dominionism movement.  My biological mother never met my adoptive parents (she met the people who she though were going to be parents but for a better phase they were a stage family that many young women who put their babies up for adopt where sent to) and was lied to about the nature of their beliefs.   My mother  wanted me to be in a better home than she could have provided after my biological father abandoned her.  She wanted me to have a Christian upbringing but she would never had wanted me to be raised in Christian fundamentalist home.She would have never given me up to that agency if she knew their true motivates (not to mention the insane profit they were making, lets just stay that most of the parents that they provided children to were rejected by other agencies).
 
2013-04-23 10:55:20 PM  

perigee: Mock26: netgamer7k: When God gives you a life preserver,

Take it.

/that's all I have to say

I wonder what a devout christian would do if that God was Vishnu?

or Kali
[negociatas.vivyanefernando.info image 363x307]
Mola Ram
/Sula Ram
//Toya Ram


fp.images.autos.msn.com
 
2013-04-23 10:55:27 PM  

HappyTheDog: The fools should be hanging from a tree.


What did the tree ever deserve to have such idiocy dangling from it?
 
2013-04-23 10:56:48 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.


I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?
 
2013-04-23 10:57:25 PM  
That's Murder.  Lock them up and try them as such.
 
2013-04-23 10:58:28 PM  

A Terrible Human: Mambo Bananapatch: If I do it sure as hell won't be because we didn't do everything possible to save our child. I have very little sympathy for morons who sit around a dying child praying instead of picking up the goddamn cell phone and calling 911.

Dude it's a quote from a guy who was very angry Fark wasn't sad about that Duggar woman losing her 20th kid and then decided to parade his dead kids remains on Fark to show everyone why he was angry. It was like wearing a meat suit in front of starving wolves.


I confused am
 
2013-04-23 10:58:59 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?


Never underestimate how stupid the Catholic Church believes its followers to be.
 
2013-04-23 11:00:15 PM  
If God could clone himself, which one would win in a hot dog eating contest?
 
2013-04-23 11:01:07 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: If God could clone himself, which one would win in a hot dog eating contest?


God?
 
2013-04-23 11:01:48 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?


yeah, I think it is rather unsurprising that a mainstream church would teach its members that people of faith should pray AND take action rather than just doing what these asshole parents do. Are you surprised to see a priest in a doctor's office or going to the dentist?
 
2013-04-23 11:01:57 PM  

phrawgh: It is sad but this was God's will. We cannot know the way He works.

Thine will be done!


I marked this as funny!
 
2013-04-23 11:04:05 PM  
Csb

When I was 10 my parents went to some kind of retreat and left me in the care of my religious fundamentalist uncle and his family in rural Oregon. One day I was playing hide and seek in the barn with my cousins when I fell out of the hayloft and split my knee open on a combine blade. My uncle, who did not believe in doctors or medicine (hell, he barely believed in soap) put a butterfly bandage on it and told me not to bend my knee for the rest of the week until my parents got back.

I needed stitches I never got, but I escaped the situation with a stiff knee and a gnarly scar (thankfully, I had been immunized against tetanus). I was a lot luckier than his youngest son, who self-medicated for depression with a chair and a noose. I was a lot luckier than the diabetic kid who died in the nurse's office at the school where my mom worked because the kid's family used prayer instead of insulin. That was 30 years ago.

/csb

Point is, this problem is not new and we as a society seem to be really bad at solving it. I hope they are convicted of murder this time.
 
2013-04-23 11:04:37 PM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


Yeah, well they'd better pop them out as fast as they can since they keep killing them. And before the wife dies an entirely preventable death due to complications in (constant) pregnancy or childbirth.
 
2013-04-23 11:06:26 PM  

GleefulFiend: Csb

When I was 10 my parents went to some kind of retreat and left me in the care of my religious fundamentalist uncle and his family in rural Oregon. One day I was playing hide and seek in the barn with my cousins when I fell out of the hayloft and split my knee open on a combine blade. My uncle, who did not believe in doctors or medicine (hell, he barely believed in soap) put a butterfly bandage on it and told me not to bend my knee for the rest of the week until my parents got back.

I needed stitches I never got, but I escaped the situation with a stiff knee and a gnarly scar (thankfully, I had been immunized against tetanus). I was a lot luckier than his youngest son, who self-medicated for depression with a chair and a noose. I was a lot luckier than the diabetic kid who died in the nurse's office at the school where my mom worked because the kid's family used prayer instead of insulin. That was 30 years ago.

/csb

Point is, this problem is not new and we as a society seem to be really bad at solving it. I hope they are convicted of murder this time.


How were you supposed to properly pray to the Almighty without bending your knee? Your uncle was a lukewarm Christian at best.
 
2013-04-23 11:09:04 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?


He forgot the last part where God says"bazinga!"
 
2013-04-23 11:11:21 PM  
It had been raining for days and days, and a terrible flood had come over the land. The waters rose so high that one man was forced to climb onto the roof of his house.

As the waters rose higher and higher, a man in a rowboat appeared, and told him to get in. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the man in the rowboat went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters rose higher and higher, and suddenly a speedboat appeared. "Climb in!" shouted a man in the boat. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the man in the speedboat went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.


The waters continued to rise. A helicopter appeared and over the loudspeaker, the pilot announced he would lower a rope to the man on the roof. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the helicopter went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters rose higher and higher, and eventually they rose so high that the man on the roof was washed away, and alas, the poor man drowned.

Upon arriving in heaven, the man marched straight over to God. "Heavenly Father," he said, "I had faith in you, I prayed to you to save me, and yet you did nothing. Why?" God gave him a puzzled look, and replied "I sent you two boats and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
 
2013-04-23 11:12:42 PM  
Darwin, his face gray and his eyes bright.
 
2013-04-23 11:13:30 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?

yeah, I think it is rather unsurprising that a mainstream church would teach its members that people of faith should pray AND take action rather than just doing what these asshole parents do. Are you surprised to see a priest in a doctor's office or going to the dentist?


Dude, I have you farkied for being pedantic and now you are equating the kookie fringe church the folks from TFA belong to with 'mainstream churches'?  Dude, stick to the subject. The 'parable' from plavacek  who then said it is told in a lot of Catholic churches. You get it now?  That is the point here. THAT claim is farking bullshiat. The kooks from TFA are not from a 'mainstream church'. This isn't about the people from TFA, this isn't abou their church. This is about the farking retarded joke from plavacek being categorized as something that is preached regularly at Catholic masses which is pure farking bullshiat.
 
2013-04-23 11:18:15 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: came for this

Do me a solid and fill me in?

What? I came to post that joke, saw that someone else already did it, didn't bother

Just curious, but didn't the 'joke' end with "what more did you want?" from the OP?

It was the bit after that that threw me off.

He ended with "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - I've heard it dozens of times. It's a shame these wackjobs hadn't. If God is good and God is everywhere, then God is in the doctors and the hospitals and the four bucks worth of generic antibiotics that would have saved your son's life, you monsters."

I prolly would've just posted the story because I think it's a cute little story but I agreed with the rest too.

Then someone shook a tiny fist and I kinda jumped on the end of that in tiny fist shaking agreement

I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.


I grew up Catholic and I've heard it too. When I was a kid, I remember the Catholic church used to focus on social justice, helping the poor and all that good stuff at least in public. But as I grew older, more molestation cases started to come out and they started preaching more about how the gays and non-believers were sinful, so my siblings and I all bailed.
 
2013-04-23 11:18:46 PM  

phrawgh: GleefulFiend: Csb

When I was 10 my parents went to some kind of retreat and left me in the care of my religious fundamentalist uncle and his family in rural Oregon. One day I was playing hide and seek in the barn with my cousins when I fell out of the hayloft and split my knee open on a combine blade. My uncle, who did not believe in doctors or medicine (hell, he barely believed in soap) put a butterfly bandage on it and told me not to bend my knee for the rest of the week until my parents got back.

I needed stitches I never got, but I escaped the situation with a stiff knee and a gnarly scar (thankfully, I had been immunized against tetanus). I was a lot luckier than his youngest son, who self-medicated for depression with a chair and a noose. I was a lot luckier than the diabetic kid who died in the nurse's office at the school where my mom worked because the kid's family used prayer instead of insulin. That was 30 years ago.

/csb

Point is, this problem is not new and we as a society seem to be really bad at solving it. I hope they are convicted of murder this time.

How were you supposed to properly pray to the Almighty without bending your knee? Your uncle was a lukewarm Christian at best.


They were sure I was going to hell anyway. The first day I was there I refused to pray at dinner and my Aunt gave me a twenty minute lecture about keeping my corruption away from her children.

They're Jehovah's Witnesses, so he isn't much of a Christian at all. (Not all JW's eschew medical science, before somebody jumps on me about that.)
 
2013-04-23 11:19:47 PM  

rmatthewware: Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.


True Scotsman like typing detected.
 
2013-04-23 11:20:34 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?

yeah, I think it is rather unsurprising that a mainstream church would teach its members that people of faith should pray AND take action rather than just doing what these asshole parents do. Are you surprised to see a priest in a doctor's office or going to the dentist?

Dude, I have you farkied for being pedantic and now you are equating the kookie fringe church the folks from TFA belong to with 'mainstream churches'?  Dude, stick to the subject. The 'parable' from plavacek  who then said it is told in a lot of Catholic churches. You get it now?  That is the point here. THAT claim is farking bullshiat. The kooks from TFA are not from a 'mainstream church'. This isn't about the people from TFA, this isn't abou their church. This is about the farking retarded joke from plavacek being categorized as something that is preached regularly at Catholic masses which is pure farking bullshiat.


dammit, I realize I misread your post. Sorry SK.
 
2013-04-23 11:21:08 PM  

rmatthewware: Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.



Yes, Yes you *DO* blame organized fairytale tellers. I distinctly remember our parish priest and all sunday school teachers claiming that they had examples of people being healed by prayer or a house not burning down (or ripped up by a tornado as the case may be) because it had been blessed. Obviously, all silly nonsense. At least they were careful never to say that we should Not go to a hospital or doctor when we were sick.
 
2013-04-23 11:23:52 PM  

theknuckler_33: Dude, I have you farkied for being pedantic and now you are equating the kookie fringe church the folks from TFA belong to with 'mainstream churches'?


huh? No I'm not.

theknuckler_33: Dude, stick to the subject. The 'parable' from plavacek who then said it is told in a lot of Catholic churches. You get it now? That is the point here. THAT claim is farking bullshiat. The kooks from TFA are not from a 'mainstream church'. This isn't about the people from TFA, this isn't abou their church. This is about the farking retarded joke from plavacek being categorized as something that is preached regularly at Catholic masses which is pure farking bullshiat.


I can't tell if you're joking. You're all over the place.
As I said, I can't say that it is taught in many churches but I am familiar with it, I might've heard it in church. It isn't a story I'd be shocked to hear in church. I never said the assholes from TFA are from a mainstream church. I am referring to your incredulity that a Catholic church would preach such a story from the pulpit. I don't find it all that surprising.
You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too farking angry about this little story that's just meant to tell people to not just hope for a supernatural miracle from prayer but rather recognize the plain ways God helps you and answers your pleas for help.
 
2013-04-23 11:24:21 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: ciberido: poonesfarm: Mauled by a saber-toothed tiger?

Attacked by an assailant wielding loganberries?

[www.quitecurious.com image 400x300]


Fresh fruit can be more dangerous than a pointed stick.
 
2013-04-23 11:24:48 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?

yeah, I think it is rather unsurprising that a mainstream church would teach its members that people of faith should pray AND take action rather than just doing what these asshole parents do. Are you surprised to see a priest in a doctor's office or going to the dentist?


After reading your comment correctly (I misread it at first), I'm not really sure the point yo are trying to make. I am simply arguing against the idea that the joke 'parable' that we are talking about is some kind of regular teaching... basically anywhere. It is a joke. No church teaches it. Do you agree?
 
2013-04-23 11:24:54 PM  

theknuckler_33: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?

yeah, I think it is rather unsurprising that a mainstream church would teach its members that people of faith should pray AND take action rather than just doing what these asshole parents do. Are you surprised to see a priest in a doctor's office or going to the dentist?

Dude, I have you farkied for being pedantic and now you are equating the kookie fringe church the folks from TFA belong to with 'mainstream churches'?  Dude, stick to the subject. The 'parable' from plavacek  who then said it is told in a lot of Catholic churches. You get it now?  That is the point here. THAT claim is farking bullshiat. The kooks from TFA are not from a 'mainstream church'. This isn't about the people from TFA, this isn't abou their church. This is about the farking retarded joke from plavacek being categorized as something that is preached regularly at Catholic masses which is pure farking bullshiat.

dammit, I realize I misread your post. Sorry SK.


saw this after my post. No problems. Was gonna tell you to look out for the dude with the taser and straight jacket that God sent your way ;)
 
2013-04-23 11:25:48 PM  

tuna fingers: HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: HindiDiscoMonster: Abox: FTA they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years.

And like Job, retaining faith despite continued misery by God's hand.

I think you spelled Satan wrong...

/Fark, I am disappoint - I thought you knew your bibles... so you could bash it more effectively.


This wasn't meant to bash, just to predict their reaction to being convicted.  They will think the deaths of their kids and their prison sentence is all part of God's glorious plan. But thanks for the correction.

oh I know, I was just being snarky... :)

/snarky is a word right?

Oh wow, catch up on the FAQ.  You used a word that will get you banninated.
Have a nice break.


First the "personal choice" comment, then the random fees comments and now just pulling rules out of your ass?  You're the first person I've farkied as a troll based on just one thread.  Congrats!
 
2013-04-23 11:25:56 PM  

over_and_done: johnnieconnie: They were convicted of involuntary manslaughter the first time.

/hope they get Murder One with life for this one

From TFA:

"They have not been charged, as authorities are waiting on autopsy results, but they could face a prison sentence as long as 10 years."

10 years is bullshiat.  They killed two children and would likely kill the remaining seven if given the chance.  The correct response would be to infect them both with something horrible, then isolate them so that they can't spread it.  Wait a week or so for them to die.


Dislike killing? Then you'll love murder! Murder your problems away, over_and_done-style!

/excited commercial voice
 
2013-04-23 11:26:27 PM  

boozehat: Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.

i'll bite....

what's the second?

or is this like #2 with the underpants nomes?


Number two is actual medicine. Though third is actually placibo, prayer is fourth unless you group them together.

Studies have show prayer to be detrimental, worse than placebos.
 
2013-04-23 11:26:28 PM  

Mega Steve: If there IS a Heaven, what happens to all the babies (and fetuses) that end up there? Do they age? It would suck to be baby for eternity



Imagine...... neverending breastfeeding........and lotsa naps.......
 
2013-04-23 11:27:41 PM  

theknuckler_33: After reading your comment correctly (I misread it at first), I'm not really sure the point yo are trying to make. I am simply arguing against the idea that the joke 'parable' that we are talking about is some kind of regular teaching... basically anywhere. It is a joke. No church teaches it. Do you agree?


no, as I said I heard it years ago and I don't know who would've told me. Maybe it was in church, maybe the priest who lead our youth group get-togethers on Thursday nights during the summer, maybe my uncle who was 1/2 a bottle deep in some Jameson at Christmas... I don't remember. I don't find it out of line with anything I know that I've learned in 16 years of Catholic education though so if I suddenly remembered tomorrow that I did hear it during a homily, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:05 PM  

Ned Stark: Was it a lightningbolt?


Messed with Texas.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:37 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: Dude, I have you farkied for being pedantic and now you are equating the kookie fringe church the folks from TFA belong to with 'mainstream churches'?

huh? No I'm not.

theknuckler_33: Dude, stick to the subject. The 'parable' from plavacek who then said it is told in a lot of Catholic churches. You get it now? That is the point here. THAT claim is farking bullshiat. The kooks from TFA are not from a 'mainstream church'. This isn't about the people from TFA, this isn't abou their church. This is about the farking retarded joke from plavacek being categorized as something that is preached regularly at Catholic masses which is pure farking bullshiat.

I can't tell if you're joking. You're all over the place.
As I said, I can't say that it is taught in many churches but I am familiar with it, I might've heard it in church. It isn't a story I'd be shocked to hear in church. I never said the assholes from TFA are from a mainstream church. I am referring to your incredulity that a Catholic church would preach such a story from the pulpit. I don't find it all that surprising.
You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too farking angry about this little story that's just meant to tell people to not just hope for a supernatural miracle from prayer but rather recognize the plain ways God helps you and answers your pleas for help.


I misunderstood your post big time. I'm only commenting about the idea that the 'parable' is actually some sort of teaching or sermon or whatever in the Catholic (or any other) church. It is so obviously nothing more than a joke. Crap, I have no desire to defend Caholics or Christians, in general, but that statement struck me the wrong way. That stupid joke is not any kind of teaching or whatever in any church anywhere ever. It is a stupid joke.
 
2013-04-23 11:34:16 PM  
"...So then God says, 'Who did you think sent the boat and the helicopter?'"
 
2013-04-23 11:34:55 PM  

El Dudereno: HindiDiscoMonster: Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.

isn't that across the hall from the Weird Al memorial polka room?

They didn't like the Nehru jacket he was wearing. He got into heaven, but they gave him the room next to the noisy ice machine.


Everything you know is wrong!!
 
2013-04-23 11:36:14 PM  

theknuckler_33: I misunderstood your post big time. I'm only commenting about the idea that the 'parable' is actually some sort of teaching or sermon or whatever in the Catholic (or any other) church. It is so obviously nothing more than a joke. Crap, I have no desire to defend Caholics or Christians, in general, but that statement struck me the wrong way. That stupid joke is not any kind of teaching or whatever in any church anywhere ever. It is a stupid joke.


maybe I heard it from my drunk uncle, as I said. I could also see it as part of a "God wants you to be all you can be and to strive for goals rather than waiting for him to take care of everything" sermon too so I am really not ready to call it bullshiat.

In any case, it is clearly a good lesson beyond the "stupid joke" aspect. No matter how religious you are, no matter how hard you pray, if you don't take action and take advantage of opportunities as they arise, you're gonna fail. This is basically what his point was - these jackasses didn't have this mindset and believe God is omnipresent but can't recognize God in the mundane world of medicine and technology. No religious service I've ever attended has preached such a thing, therefore I am not surprised to hear that people have heard this story at church
 
2013-04-23 11:36:40 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: After reading your comment correctly (I misread it at first), I'm not really sure the point yo are trying to make. I am simply arguing against the idea that the joke 'parable' that we are talking about is some kind of regular teaching... basically anywhere. It is a joke. No church teaches it. Do you agree?

no, as I said I heard it years ago and I don't know who would've told me. Maybe it was in church, maybe the priest who lead our youth group get-togethers on Thursday nights during the summer, maybe my uncle who was 1/2 a bottle deep in some Jameson at Christmas... I don't remember. I don't find it out of line with anything I know that I've learned in 16 years of Catholic education though so if I suddenly remembered tomorrow that I did hear it during a homily, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.


As someone who went through 12 years of Catholic eduction, was an alter-boy for 5 years, marched in May Day ceremonies for several years, went to and 'served' during stations of the cross for many years during my formative years, I never heard that 'story' ever in school or church. It is impossible for me to acknowledge that anyone cannot recognize that 'parable' as anything other than a slap in the face to anyone who believes in God. What could possibly be the lesson of that parable to a Catholic or any Christian?!? That story is preposterous from a theological standpoint. It mocks religion entirely. For goodness sakes, it is an atheist joke about religion.
 
2013-04-23 11:36:43 PM  

Mellotiger: Trampled at a gay pride rally?


Started a nuclear war at the gay bar?
 
2013-04-23 11:38:22 PM  

El Dudereno: HindiDiscoMonster: Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.

isn't that across the hall from the Weird Al memorial polka room?

They didn't like the Nehru jacket he was wearing. He got into heaven, but they gave him the room next to the noisy ice machine.


No, that's wrong.

In fact, everything you know is wrong.
 
2013-04-23 11:43:35 PM  

theknuckler_33: As someone who went through 12 years of Catholic eduction, was an alter-boy for 5 years, marched in May Day ceremonies for several years


is that when they made you the communist you are today? ;)

theknuckler_33: It is impossible for me to acknowledge that anyone cannot recognize that 'parable' as anything other than a slap in the face to anyone who believes in God. What could possibly be the lesson of that parable to a Catholic or any Christian?!? That story is preposterous from a theological standpoint. It mocks religion entirely. For goodness sakes, it is an atheist joke about religion.


dude, chill out. There's nothing insulting or mocking of religion in that story. It's a joke mocking the fool who fervently prays and waits for the miraculous while ignoring the real life impact God has on his life. It mocks the moron who prays for a change in his life while ignoring the opportunities to realize that change.
The alternative to that story is what we have in TFA. THAT is far more insulting to religion than this story. That belief that an omnipotent God is only capable of working in miraculous ways, rather than through people who use their God given talents and the knowledge gained from the God given talents of those who went before to make "miracles" happen.
 
2013-04-23 11:45:50 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: I misunderstood your post big time. I'm only commenting about the idea that the 'parable' is actually some sort of teaching or sermon or whatever in the Catholic (or any other) church. It is so obviously nothing more than a joke. Crap, I have no desire to defend Caholics or Christians, in general, but that statement struck me the wrong way. That stupid joke is not any kind of teaching or whatever in any church anywhere ever. It is a stupid joke.

maybe I heard it from my drunk uncle, as I said. I could also see it as part of a "God wants you to be all you can be and to strive for goals rather than waiting for him to take care of everything" sermon too so I am really not ready to call it bullshiat.

In any case, it is clearly a good lesson beyond the "stupid joke" aspect. No matter how religious you are, no matter how hard you pray, if you don't take action and take advantage of opportunities as they arise, you're gonna fail. This is basically what his point was - these jackasses didn't have this mindset and believe God is omnipresent but can't recognize God in the mundane world of medicine and technology. No religious service I've ever attended has preached such a thing, therefore I am not surprised to hear that people have heard this story at church


Considering the fact that his comment was basically 'the catholic church teaches this joke I heard one time'.... I can't agree with what I bolded above.
 
2013-04-23 11:45:55 PM  

nmrsnr: Clearly god did it. He would have saved them if he liked those kids.


or maybe he did like them & thats why they deaded.
perhaps its the ones that get better that he doesnt like & thats why he made them better. makes sense based on the nasty little buggers that are always at the local store screaming while their parents ignore them.


/teenagers go elsewhere... they keep damaging the tupas...
.
 
2013-04-23 11:46:05 PM  
You know what would really be great? If the remaining children were fostered by gay couples.

That would be an awesome part to the punishment.
 
2013-04-23 11:52:10 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: I misunderstood your post big time. I'm only commenting about the idea that the 'parable' is actually some sort of teaching or sermon or whatever in the Catholic (or any other) church. It is so obviously nothing more than a joke. Crap, I have no desire to defend Caholics or Christians, in general, but that statement struck me the wrong way. That stupid joke is not any kind of teaching or whatever in any church anywhere ever. It is a stupid joke.

maybe I heard it from my drunk uncle, as I said. I could also see it as part of a "God wants you to be all you can be and to strive for goals rather than waiting for him to take care of everything" sermon too so I am really not ready to call it bullshiat.

In any case, it is clearly a good lesson beyond the "stupid joke" aspect. No matter how religious you are, no matter how hard you pray, if you don't take action and take advantage of opportunities as they arise, you're gonna fail. This is basically what his point was - these jackasses didn't have this mindset and believe God is omnipresent but can't recognize God in the mundane world of medicine and technology. No religious service I've ever attended has preached such a thing, therefore I am not surprised to hear that people have heard this story at church

Considering the fact that his comment was basically 'the catholic church teaches this joke I heard one time'.... I can't agree with what I bolded above.


Read the post again.
 
2013-04-23 11:53:41 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: As someone who went through 12 years of Catholic eduction, was an alter-boy for 5 years, marched in May Day ceremonies for several years

is that when they made you the communist you are today? ;)

theknuckler_33: It is impossible for me to acknowledge that anyone cannot recognize that 'parable' as anything other than a slap in the face to anyone who believes in God. What could possibly be the lesson of that parable to a Catholic or any Christian?!? That story is preposterous from a theological standpoint. It mocks religion entirely. For goodness sakes, it is an atheist joke about religion.

dude, chill out. There's nothing insulting or mocking of religion in that story. It's a joke mocking the fool who fervently prays and waits for the miraculous while ignoring the real life impact God has on his life. It mocks the moron who prays for a change in his life while ignoring the opportunities to realize that change.


That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.
 
2013-04-23 11:56:38 PM  
I, for one, am shocked that doing nothing and expecting god to fix your problems for you instead of doing something for yourself leads to poor results.

I mean, wasn't that the entire point of the parable of Adam and Eve? "You don't have to go fend for yourselves, no matter what. I'll always be here to take care of you." That's what god was saying when he kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden and told them to go fend for themselves because now they had knowledge and responsibility, right?
 
2013-04-23 11:56:51 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: As someone who went through 12 years of Catholic eduction, was an alter-boy for 5 years, marched in May Day ceremonies for several years

is that when they made you the communist you are today? ;)

theknuckler_33: It is impossible for me to acknowledge that anyone cannot recognize that 'parable' as anything other than a slap in the face to anyone who believes in God. What could possibly be the lesson of that parable to a Catholic or any Christian?!? That story is preposterous from a theological standpoint. It mocks religion entirely. For goodness sakes, it is an atheist joke about religion.

dude, chill out. There's nothing insulting or mocking of religion in that story. It's a joke mocking the fool who fervently prays and waits for the miraculous while ignoring the real life impact God has on his life. It mocks the moron who prays for a change in his life while ignoring the opportunities to realize that change.

That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.


you never heard a joke made from the pulpit? I don't think it appears in the catechism anywhere but you've had a few people in this thread who are very familiar with it - who may or may not have heard it in church - and it is in no way contrary to any Church teaching and in fact supports what we learned in Catholic school and therefore could quite legitimately be used during a homily.
 
2013-04-23 11:57:19 PM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:Considering the fact that his comment was basically 'the catholic church teaches this joke I heard one time'.... I can't agree with what I bolded above.

Read the post again.


This part:

"This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - "

Yup, read it again. Still pure bullshiat.
 
2013-04-23 11:58:17 PM  
1492! Osmosis! Gerund! Your Mom!
 
2013-04-23 11:59:43 PM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: As someone who went through 12 years of Catholic eduction, was an alter-boy for 5 years, marched in May Day ceremonies for several years

is that when they made you the communist you are today? ;)

theknuckler_33: It is impossible for me to acknowledge that anyone cannot recognize that 'parable' as anything other than a slap in the face to anyone who believes in God. What could possibly be the lesson of that parable to a Catholic or any Christian?!? That story is preposterous from a theological standpoint. It mocks religion entirely. For goodness sakes, it is an atheist joke about religion.

dude, chill out. There's nothing insulting or mocking of religion in that story. It's a joke mocking the fool who fervently prays and waits for the miraculous while ignoring the real life impact God has on his life. It mocks the moron who prays for a change in his life while ignoring the opportunities to realize that change.

That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.


For what it is worth: I have been part of some pretty lax congregations. It would be a stretch to call it a "Common Catholic parable" but if I haven't heard heard that joke in church (I heard it so long ago I don't remember where it was) I have heard ones similar. It isn't offensive and it makes a good point about God working for us in unexpected and simple ways. A good message to send since the same God that used to perform major miracles that would make crowds get down on bended knee is shy now that there are camcorders and cell phone cams.

It isn't unreasonable to think this joke was told in church, particularly with more contemporary non-denominationals out there.
 
2013-04-24 12:00:40 AM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

you never heard a joke made from the pulpit? I don't think it appears in the catechism anywhere but you've had a few people in this thread who are very familiar with it - who may or may not have heard it in church - and it is in no way contrary to any Church teaching and in fact supports what we learned in Catholic school and therefore could quite legitimately be used during a homily.


Priests don't make joke that mock God. You get the joke, right?  God is telling the guy that he's an idiot, right? That's not the kind of God that they preach at church. You get that, right?
 
2013-04-24 12:01:40 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bonobo62: Idiots. Laughter is the best medicine. Not prayer. Laughter. Prayer is only the third-best medicine.

just think how healthy clowns must be...


Being terrifying is the best medicine?


MeanJean: You know what would really be great? If the remaining children were fostered by gay couples.

That would be an awesome part to the punishment.


Atheists. I think atheists are more reviled that gays these days.
 
2013-04-24 12:04:43 AM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:Considering the fact that his comment was basically 'the catholic church teaches this joke I heard one time'.... I can't agree with what I bolded above.

Read the post again.

This part:

"This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches - "

Yup, read it again. Still pure bullshiat.


I remember this from when I was a child in Catholic school. I believe a priest told the story at the time

http://wellspringfellowship.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/an-old-joke-or- a- parable-in-disguise/

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-24 12:05:27 AM  
www.explosm.net
 
2013-04-24 12:06:09 AM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

you never heard a joke made from the pulpit? I don't think it appears in the catechism anywhere but you've had a few people in this thread who are very familiar with it - who may or may not have heard it in church - and it is in no way contrary to any Church teaching and in fact supports what we learned in Catholic school and therefore could quite legitimately be used during a homily.

Priests don't make joke that mock God. You get the joke, right?  God is telling the guy that he's an idiot, right? That's not the kind of God that they preach at church. You get that, right?


No, God is telling the guy that sometimes He helps us in mundane ways and we need to be on the look out for it. I find your claim, that priests wouldn't tell this joke, absurd. Google it out, there are tons of references to priests and pastors telling this joke.
 
2013-04-24 12:07:26 AM  

theknuckler_33: Priests don't make joke that mock God. You get the joke, right? God is telling the guy that he's an idiot, right? That's not the kind of God that they preach at church. You get that, right?


seriously? God will condemn someone to hell for eternity but won't offer a gentle rebuke? God is telling the guy that he tried to help but he wouldn't open his eyes to the obvious.

Does the footprints in the sand story piss you off too because it's Jesus calling the person lazy so he has to carry him? WTF dude?
 
2013-04-24 12:07:39 AM  
Sadly, one less future Republican.
 
2013-04-24 12:08:55 AM  
Here's a pastor telling that story to the President (in West Wing)
http://youtu.be/5Dj0nUT8brI

The moral of the story is so simple even religious people should be able to figure it out...

/then nature invents a better fool
 
2013-04-24 12:09:12 AM  

jst3p: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

For what it is worth: I have been part of some pretty lax congregations. It would be a stretch to call it a "Common Catholic parable" but if I haven't heard heard that joke in church (I heard it so long ago I don't remember where it was) I have heard ones similar. It isn't offensive and it makes a good point about God working for us in unexpected and simple ways. A good message to send since the same God that used to perform major miracles that would make crowds get down on bended knee is shy now that there are camcorders and cell phone cams.

It isn't unreasonable to think this joke was told in church, particularly with more contemporary non-denominationals out there.

'
Oh for goodness sakes. Fine. Mainstream religions preach that God tells people who pray to him for... whatever... that they are morans for not taking advantage of secular solutions to problems they face.
 
2013-04-24 12:11:00 AM  
Oh for goodness sake, would you just drop it  theknuckler_33 about the freakin joke. The guy already said that he doesn't know where he heard it, except possibly in church. The fact that you're making such a big freaking deal about it is absurd. I don't have a Catholic education but I have gone to church for the past 19 or so years and I can verify that a lot of the ministers use jokes every now and then, either on the pulpit or for kids. It's just a cute christian themed joke, if it was an athiest joke, it wouldn't portray God as wise or actually trying to help the guy, it wouldn't have God being there at all. The fact that you think that it is a point that needs to be hammered in is annoying. Yes, the guy obviously doesn't know what goes on in all Catholic churches and maybe the church you went to, the priest never strayed from just reading the Bible but he wasn't making a thesis for God's sake, if it was a little off, so what. The message was relevant and funny. Geez
 
2013-04-24 12:12:18 AM  
God didn't want any more of these stupid farkers littering the Earth.

/poor kids lost the genetic lottery
 
2013-04-24 12:12:47 AM  

theknuckler_33: jst3p: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

For what it is worth: I have been part of some pretty lax congregations. It would be a stretch to call it a "Common Catholic parable" but if I haven't heard heard that joke in church (I heard it so long ago I don't remember where it was) I have heard ones similar. It isn't offensive and it makes a good point about God working for us in unexpected and simple ways. A good message to send since the same God that used to perform major miracles that would make crowds get down on bended knee is shy now that there are camcorders and cell phone cams.

It isn't unreasonable to think this joke was told in church, particularly with more contemporary non-denominationals out there.
'
Oh for goodness sakes. Fine. Mainstream religions preach that God tells people who pray to him for... whatever... that they are morans for not taking advantage of secular solutions to problems they face.


holy shiat (no pun intended).
The point of the story is that God sent the help but the guy was too busy looking for a miraculous solution so he ignored the mundane ways that God works in your life.
NOW do you see why it isn't insulting?
 
2013-04-24 12:13:11 AM  

theknuckler_33: jst3p: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

For what it is worth: I have been part of some pretty lax congregations. It would be a stretch to call it a "Common Catholic parable" but if I haven't heard heard that joke in church (I heard it so long ago I don't remember where it was) I have heard ones similar. It isn't offensive and it makes a good point about God working for us in unexpected and simple ways. A good message to send since the same God that used to perform major miracles that would make crowds get down on bended knee is shy now that there are camcorders and cell phone cams.

It isn't unreasonable to think this joke was told in church, particularly with more contemporary non-denominationals out there.
'
Oh for goodness sakes. Fine. Mainstream religions preach that God tells people who pray to him for... whatever... that they are morans for not taking advantage of secular solutions to problems they face.


skullcrusher. this is as close as you are going to get. I suggest accepting this apology.
 
2013-04-24 12:15:36 AM  
Fusillade762

MeanJean
You know what would really be great? If the remaining children were fostered by gay couples.

That would be an awesome part to the punishment.

Atheists. I think atheists are more reviled that gays these days.


How about gay atheists? =D
 
2013-04-24 12:16:00 AM  

jst3p: theknuckler_33: jst3p: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

For what it is worth: I have been part of some pretty lax congregations. It would be a stretch to call it a "Common Catholic parable" but if I haven't heard heard that joke in church (I heard it so long ago I don't remember where it was) I have heard ones similar. It isn't offensive and it makes a good point about God working for us in unexpected and simple ways. A good message to send since the same God that used to perform major miracles that would make crowds get down on bended knee is shy now that there are camcorders and cell phone cams.

It isn't unreasonable to think this joke was told in church, particularly with more contemporary non-denominationals out there.
'
Oh for goodness sakes. Fine. Mainstream religions preach that God tells people who pray to him for... whatever... that they are morans for not taking advantage of secular solutions to problems they face.

skullcrusher. this is as close as you are going to get. I suggest accepting this apology.


I don't need an apology, he didn't say anything to me. I think he just misinterpreted the story. God sent us to help him interpret it correctly. ;)
 
2013-04-24 12:16:47 AM  

MeanJean: Fusillade762

MeanJean
You know what would really be great? If the remaining children were fostered by gay couples.

That would be an awesome part to the punishment.

Atheists. I think atheists are more reviled that gays these days.

How about gay atheists? =D


now you're just repeating yourself

/no, not serious save your quizzical dogs
 
2013-04-24 12:16:48 AM  

skullkrusher: jst3p: theknuckler_33: jst3p: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

For what it is worth: I have been part of some pretty lax congregations. It would be a stretch to call it a "Common Catholic parable" but if I haven't heard heard that joke in church (I heard it so long ago I don't remember where it was) I have heard ones similar. It isn't offensive and it makes a good point about God working for us in unexpected and simple ways. A good message to send since the same God that used to perform major miracles that would make crowds get down on bended knee is shy now that there are camcorders and cell phone cams.

It isn't unreasonable to think this joke was told in church, particularly with more contemporary non-denominationals out there.
'
Oh for goodness sakes. Fine. Mainstream religions preach that God tells people who pray to him for... whatever... that they are morans for not taking advantage of secular solutions to problems they face.

skullcrusher. this is as close as you are going to get. I suggest accepting this apology.

I don't need an apology, he didn't say anything to me. I think he just misinterpreted the story. God sent us to help him interpret it correctly. ;)


Speak for yourself. I am here to help him due to chaotic randomness!
 
2013-04-24 12:19:32 AM  
The real punchline to the joke is that God THEN said "But I'm sending you to hell anyway for that one time when you were 15 and you masturbated while thinking of Tom Selleck."
 
2013-04-24 12:21:19 AM  
God needed them in Heaven.
 
2013-04-24 12:21:57 AM  
Last week I was minding my own business when all of the sudden out of nowhere I started wondering if Christian Scientists are technically able to wear glasses. I sort of internally debated it all day without bothering to look it up until later at night when I googled it. The first thing that popped up was a Yahoo Answers thing, and the best response I found was something along the lines of "If trying to get an accurate answer for this question you might want to capitalize the name of the religion."
 
2013-04-24 12:24:12 AM  

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: Dude, I have you farkied for being pedantic and now you are equating the kookie fringe church the folks from TFA belong to with 'mainstream churches'?

huh? No I'm not.

theknuckler_33: Dude, stick to the subject. The 'parable' from plavacek who then said it is told in a lot of Catholic churches. You get it now? That is the point here. THAT claim is farking bullshiat. The kooks from TFA are not from a 'mainstream church'. This isn't about the people from TFA, this isn't abou their church. This is about the farking retarded joke from plavacek being categorized as something that is preached regularly at Catholic masses which is pure farking bullshiat.

I can't tell if you're joking. You're all over the place.
As I said, I can't say that it is taught in many churches but I am familiar with it, I might've heard it in church. It isn't a story I'd be shocked to hear in church. I never said the assholes from TFA are from a mainstream church. I am referring to your incredulity that a Catholic church would preach such a story from the pulpit. I don't find it all that surprising.
You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too farking angry about this little story that's just meant to tell people to not just hope for a supernatural miracle from prayer but rather recognize the plain ways God helps you and answers your pleas for help.


I've heard it once or twice in Catholic churches -- usually it's a joke to start off a homily about either seeing God in everyday life or about how faith without works is useless. In Protestant churches I could see it being used to illustrate "the Lord helps those who help themselves." Though I've heard the Philip Neri "cut open a feather pillow" one a lot more. Incidentally, anti-abortionism is supposed to be part and parcel of the social justice advocacy; it's about protecting the most small and defenseless. Which, incidentally, means helping out their mothers and not tossing them to the wolves. You'll find that the bishops are consistently in favour of a stronger social safety net. Yes, I know, but that's something they get right.

As for the couple in TFA ... considering what already happened to their other child, I can't help wondering if they're borderline/actually mentally retarded, or broke, or some combination of the two. Not that this would make the outcome different; clearly their surviving children are better off elsewhere.
 
2013-04-24 12:27:09 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The real punchline to the joke is that God THEN said "But I'm sending you to hell anyway for that one time when you were 15 and you masturbated while thinking of Tom Selleck."


Now that was an atheistic joke.

/I LOLed
 
2013-04-24 12:27:15 AM  
Unbelievable!
 
2013-04-24 12:28:02 AM  
Let's hope it's their last child and our herd is strengthened.
 
2013-04-24 12:33:54 AM  

djkutch: IntertubeUser: More evidence that religion is child abuse.  This is perhaps the most heinous of examples.  But parents who teach their children that the earth is 6,000 years old, God hates them queers, etc. are other examples.  But even something as innocuous as faith being a legitimate substitute for evidence or teaching kids to believe in supernatural causes (the basis of religion) leaves impressionable young minds handicapped in the real world.

Religion IS child abuse.

I think that's needs to be qualified. Religion itself is not the problem.  It's an idea. You can't get rid of ideas.  We were once going to bomb Communism out of existence in Vietnam. That was a stated goal. How did that work out?

It's the creators and practitioners of various religion that we should take issue with.

We're all down on Catholicism because of pedophilia, right? I rent 3 houses to Catholic Communities Charities Services.  Have for a while.  They do good things.  Very similar to the Section 8 program. Should I have said no because it was Catholic? By the way the Catholic church feeds a lot of people. In the 6 to 7 digit range. Say no to it?

These people are nutters, but don't paint a broad stroke against religion. Get after the nutters. Most religious people feel an obligation to do the golden rule.


Tell that to all the LGBTs that would like to get married.
 
2013-04-24 12:37:44 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-24 12:42:07 AM  

Shedim: hawcian: Here you go (it's mentioned near the end). It's pretty well known that Aldrin celebrated communion. NASA didn't broadcast it because of an ongoing lawsuit at the time.

Thanks - I didn't know that.

Not to threadjack, what makes people decide to stop using services they clearly benefited from when they were kids? I mean, surely their parents were just as religious and they still would've taken them to the doctor if they got sick... right?


Often their parents were not as religious. A lot of this stuff is people being "born again" and going radical in the first generation. Quiverfull in particular, there's tons of people with normal childhoods who "find Jesus" as adults and then go all out into this "traditional" religion which is anything but.  Case in point: Michelle Duggar.

(Though the "no doctors, just pray on it" is extreme even for the extreme.)
 
2013-04-24 12:51:59 AM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33:I guess the fact that "This parable is told a lot in Catholic churches "  being pure bullshiat struck me the wrong way. I guess that's just me.

I heard it years ago. Maybe in church, I dunno. I can't say that I've gone to a lot of Catholic Churches so I can't really say it is bullshiat or not.

I have a lot of respect for you and this post from you blows my mind. Did you really read that 'joke'?  Are you really trying to tell me that you think it is possible that that might be an actual teaching of the Catholic, or any other, church? A parable that basically teaches that God says "you are a moran"? Did you read it?


Old joke or not, really - I'm completely serious in that I've heard it in church, repeatedly. Our pastor for many years was of the pastoral Irish Catholic tradition, and he opened darn near every homily with a joke. This was one of his favorites.

I guess I don't see your objection to it? The moral, or the one that resonates with me anyway, is that we need to recognize when our prayers are answered and sometimes take action ourselves. These people have failed, twice, and have lost two children because of it. That's all. If there's something deeply offensive to you about it, I'd love for you to explain what it is.
 
2013-04-24 01:03:04 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The real punchline to the joke is that God THEN said "But I'm sending you to hell anyway for that one time when you were 15 and you masturbated while thinking of Tom Selleck."


1.bp.blogspot.com
It IS God.
 
2013-04-24 01:04:18 AM  

Amos Quito: [www.nationnews.com image 450x350]

They obviously prayed to the wrong god


Why pray to Hermes/Mercury when the god of healing was Apollo, and his son Asclepius. Asclepius symbol is:  www.elpasosurgical.com

The reason people use the Caduceus as a symbol for healing is because the post-Civil War Army Medical Corp were didn't know Greek mythology very well...
 
2013-04-24 01:07:13 AM  
This just proves what I've always thought, God is an asshole.
 
2013-04-24 01:13:38 AM  
what a shiatty way to go
 
2013-04-24 01:22:38 AM  

Shedim: TheOtherMisterP: RedWineBuzz: Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.

And what's the first thing Buzz Aldrin did when he got to the moon? He celebrated Communion.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]


It is true:  http://www.snopes.com/glurge/communion.asp

But he didn't get to the moon by praying. He got to the moon through science. Religion simply provides some people a guilt-free way to be douchebags to each other, under the guise of righeteousness, and others inspiration.

As the quote goes: "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion" - Steven Weinberg
 
2013-04-24 01:27:08 AM  
This is an example of hubris.  We are the Chosen Ones, so God will drop what he's doing to save us even though we have the means to save  each other.  And when he does, it will prove that we are better than those who died.
 
2013-04-24 01:36:19 AM  
Wow. This thread went to hell real fast.

Seriously. I'm in fear for my mortal soul I'm laughing so hard.
 
2013-04-24 01:38:18 AM  

ruinevil: Amos Quito: [www.nationnews.com image 450x350]

They obviously prayed to the wrong god

Why pray to Hermes/Mercury when the god of healing was Apollo, and his son Asclepius. Asclepius symbol is:  [www.elpasosurgical.com image 40x177]

The reason people use the Caduceus as a symbol for healing is because the post-Civil War Army Medical Corp were didn't know Greek mythology very well...



So they should pray to Asclepius?


/Works for me
 
2013-04-24 01:39:08 AM  

jst3p: [i303.photobucket.com image 716x535]


Almost every time I see your username and your highlighted posts, I remember that thread. Good times were had by most.
 
2013-04-24 01:41:36 AM  

johnnieconnie: They were convicted of involuntary manslaughter the first time.

/hope they get Murder One with life for this one


Why did they still have custody of any children?
 
2013-04-24 02:10:36 AM  

tuna fingers: djkutch:

....mentioning catholicism...

These people are nutters, but don't paint a broad stroke against religion. Get after the nutters. Most religious people feel an obligation to do the golden rule.

If you don't mind, I'd like to interject something about Catholicism as I knew it growing up.  Somehow in my youth I went to a progressive parish that focused on social justice.  The sermons derived to helping the poor and doing good deeds and doing good deeds and assisting the poor, and pray to god.  It wasn't until high school that I learned my cousins encountered a different Catholicism.  A righteous, anti-abortion, brimstone and fire Catholicism.  I think my liberal Catholicism is vanishing... I think the Vatican II  (initially anyway) allowed for some progressive teachings.
I think that is gone now.
I don't really give a fark anymore, as I no longer believe in shiat, but I just know that I had a different upraising of what the church was/could be in the 70s and 80s.


I am a Seattle liberal catholic too. Masses were ardently anti war and anti discrimination. They focused on eliminating the death penalty and increasing access to healthcare. Then like you, I met the nutters who begin and end with abortion. What an embarrassment.
 
2013-04-24 02:53:49 AM  

skullkrusher: MeanJean: Fusillade762

MeanJean
You know what would really be great? If the remaining children were fostered by gay couples.

That would be an awesome part to the punishment.

Atheists. I think atheists are more reviled that gays these days.

How about gay atheists? =D

now you're just repeating yourself

/no, not serious save your quizzical dogs


Gaytheists.
 
2013-04-24 03:01:33 AM  
God: "I sent you doctors and miraculous medicines. What more was I supposed to do? Why do you insist on me performing magic tricks when I have given you the ability to help yourselves?"

/hope these people rot in jail forever
 
2013-04-24 03:41:56 AM  
"The 8-month-old died on Thursday, after experiencing diarrhea and having trouble breathing, thePhiladelphia Inquirer reports."

pffft!  I've had diarrhea and trouble breathing before and I didn't take any medicine for it and I'm just fine.

/prayer works
 
2013-04-24 03:46:38 AM  
"Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God "

Take your kids to the doctor, don't play in traffic either while you're at it.
You are expected to be vigilant and responsible.
 
2013-04-24 03:50:23 AM  

sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .


When your offspring die of easily cured ailments, you need to breed in larger numbers.  We either have to hope for the entire bloodline to be terminated or for the children to grow up with functioning brains.  The latter being highly unlikely considering their parentage.
 
2013-04-24 03:59:10 AM  
grumppycatGOOD.jpg
 
2013-04-24 04:29:52 AM  
I'm not a religious man but Is it not possible that the medicine was the answer to their prayers.
 
2013-04-24 04:40:19 AM  
Laughter?

Exploding bladder?

Autoerotic asphyxiation?
 
2013-04-24 04:51:29 AM  
that sky fairy needs to come with a health warning.
 
2013-04-24 05:14:18 AM  
Why did they think He would save thier kids? He didn't even bother to save His own.
 
2013-04-24 06:12:07 AM  
But Gays adopting kids is harmful to them. But abortion is murder. I bet these people also like Creationism... sorry, people... this is an example of natural selection, but too bad your kids had to pay for your idiocy.

And Jesus wept.
 
2013-04-24 06:45:17 AM  
Stories like this make me Twitchell ...

/recovered Christian Scientist
 
2013-04-24 08:01:51 AM  
World's crappiest HMO.
 
2013-04-24 08:39:13 AM  
This thing is that God likes children to die. That's historically been the norm -- those "people only lived to an average age of 35" statistics about the past are usually horribly skewed by the very high infant mortality rate, whereas if you could survive childhood it appears you usually made it into old age.

Still, I have mixed opinions on this... the concept seems to be that the kid might have chosen to get medical attention if he had the option, so parents failure to get it for him is neglect or manslaughter; but kids usually are never granted any other legal rights of their own based on what they would choose, so I don't see why that's different here. Yeah, he ends up dead, but unless the parents deliberately made him sick, then there's a ton of other weird accidents that could befall and kill him at any time -- even with medical treatment.
 
2013-04-24 08:42:42 AM  
I don't get this "no doctors" thing at all. God is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient, right? I mean, that's a major tenet of the religion, no? So God is all of this EXCEPT when it comes to medecine? God is everywhere present, but not in the doctor, the hospital, the pharmacy? Not there? God is all knowing, but not medical knowledge? God works in mysterious ways, but not ever through the hands and brains of people who have been to medical school?

Makes no sense to me, as does the fact that these people were given a second chance to kill a kid.
 
2013-04-24 08:50:12 AM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: That is entirely my point. It was a joke and only a joke. My issue was only with the statement that the joke was preached as some sort of standard Catholic (or any other Christian) teaching. I've made this point several times and is the only point I've wanted to make. For some reason, my point is not being acknowledged for what it is.

you never heard a joke made from the pulpit? I don't think it appears in the catechism anywhere but you've had a few people in this thread who are very familiar with it - who may or may not have heard it in church - and it is in no way contrary to any Church teaching and in fact supports what we learned in Catholic school and therefore could quite legitimately be used during a homily.

Priests don't make joke that mock God. You get the joke, right?  God is telling the guy that he's an idiot, right? That's not the kind of God that they preach at church. You get that, right?


I heard it from a priest, so yeah, priests do tell that story.
 
2013-04-24 08:55:00 AM  

itazurakko: Shedim: hawcian: Here you go (it's mentioned near the end). It's pretty well known that Aldrin celebrated communion. NASA didn't broadcast it because of an ongoing lawsuit at the time.

Thanks - I didn't know that.

Not to threadjack, what makes people decide to stop using services they clearly benefited from when they were kids? I mean, surely their parents were just as religious and they still would've taken them to the doctor if they got sick... right?

Often their parents were not as religious. A lot of this stuff is people being "born again" and going radical in the first generation. Quiverfull in particular, there's tons of people with normal childhoods who "find Jesus" as adults and then go all out into this "traditional" religion which is anything but.  Case in point: Michelle Duggar.

(Though the "no doctors, just pray on it" is extreme even for the extreme.)


At least the Duggars do use doctors, which saved their 2nd youngest's (3rd youngest? Who can keep count) life.

Not that I agree with their life choices, but this is one thing I'll give them.
 
2013-04-24 08:57:59 AM  

theknuckler_33: skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: After reading your comment correctly (I misread it at first), I'm not really sure the point yo are trying to make. I am simply arguing against the idea that the joke 'parable' that we are talking about is some kind of regular teaching... basically anywhere. It is a joke. No church teaches it. Do you agree?

no, as I said I heard it years ago and I don't know who would've told me. Maybe it was in church, maybe the priest who lead our youth group get-togethers on Thursday nights during the summer, maybe my uncle who was 1/2 a bottle deep in some Jameson at Christmas... I don't remember. I don't find it out of line with anything I know that I've learned in 16 years of Catholic education though so if I suddenly remembered tomorrow that I did hear it during a homily, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

As someone who went through 12 years of Catholic eduction, was an alter-boy for 5 years, marched in May Day ceremonies for several years, went to and 'served' during stations of the cross for many years during my formative years, I never heard that 'story' ever in school or church. It is impossible for me to acknowledge that anyone cannot recognize that 'parable' as anything other than a slap in the face to anyone who believes in God. What could possibly be the lesson of that parable to a Catholic or any Christian?!? That story is preposterous from a theological standpoint. It mocks religion entirely. For goodness sakes, it is an atheist joke about religion.


I have definitely heard it used in a Catholic homily more than once as well as it being a favorite of my great uncle who was a Catholic priest. Of course he was aldo a chaplain in ww2and later a prison chaplain so that flavored his preaching a bit
 
2013-04-24 09:53:08 AM  

gopher321: He fixed the cable?


As far as I'm concerned, you've won this thread.
 
2013-04-24 10:27:55 AM  

namegoeshere: At least the Duggars do use doctors, which saved their 2nd youngest's (3rd youngest? Who can keep count) life.


Oh, absolutely.  They're just a good example of the "first generation" thing.  You see it in a lot of the "courtship only!" crap - parents who dated normally before "finding Jesus" and having their 14392309 kids then pretty much lock them (or at least the girls) down on the farm and don't allow any socialization evar, particularly with boys (who are supposed to apply to Daddy for permission to possibly "court" the girl before she hears anything about it) because it's all so wonderfully pure and Godly and the "wonderful girlhood" they wished they'd had, and then they wonder, wow, how come our daughters are still single at 27+?
 
2013-04-24 10:42:33 AM  

flondrix: johnnieconnie: They were convicted of involuntary manslaughter the first time.

/hope they get Murder One with life for this one

Why did they still have custody of any children?


Good question. Normally, people who cause a child's death get prison time, but they invoked the "because Jesus" clause and that makes it ok.  But fark that, I say lock 'em up and throw away the key.
 
2013-04-24 11:52:26 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology (or lack thereof) I think we can all agree that if there is an afterlife these snapperheads have a permanent reservation in the room by the elevator in the most disused wing of the Endless Vuvuzela & Pan Flute Orchestra covers "Nickleback" Concert building adjacent to the Never-Ceasing Rerun of "Batman & Robin" Screen next to the Lake of Burning Hobo Semen where the roving Octo-Penised Rapenocerouses always have full bottles of Cialis.


That was awesome.
 
2013-04-24 01:35:39 PM  

OgreMagi: sithon: And these are the people breeding in great numbers .

When your offspring die of easily cured ailments, you need to breed in larger numbers.  We either have to hope for the entire bloodline to be terminated or for the children to grow up with functioning brains.  The latter being highly unlikely considering their parentage.


Well, considering the rest of their kids have been taken away, they have a much better chance now

/yes, I know the foster care system sucks
//still better than where they were
 
2013-04-24 01:53:40 PM  

Nem Wan: HighlanderRPI: The amazing part is that they have 7 other children that have survived thus far without falling prey to their parent's stupidity

Not anymore they don't. The state took them away. We believe in parental rights strongly enough to let them keep their kids when they kill one of them, but two is pushing it!


Came into thread looking for someone to question why the kids weren't taken after the first incident

/leaving, but  not satisfied about anything in regards to this.
 
2013-04-24 02:31:01 PM  
Ahh religion in general.

Letting people think they have the answers when they really don't.
 
2013-04-24 04:42:21 PM  

rmatthewware: Every group of people that becomes large enough will have their nuts.  Most Christians aren't like this.  Most of us wouldn't let a child suffer.  If you want to condemn these people, I'll be right there with you.  But don't blame Christianity because some of his followers are idiots.


That's nice.  You're still an adult who believes in Santa.
 
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