bdub77: Further proof that Obama is destroying this country. What happens when the sun runs out of energy, Obama? HUH? WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
Rambino: A nuclear power plant "lasts" exactly one minute after the workers depart. They cannot (or at least should not and do not) operate without human oversight 24/7. A basic PV system is completely fire-and-forget.
maxheck: I eagerly await your proof that MrSteve007 faked all his photographs and demonstrated expertise, that Ringshadow doesn't work as a nuke safety geekette, and that Hollie Maea doesn't work for a PV producer. Jim_Callahan also seems to know his stuff regarding this topic.
MMM A THREAD FULL OF GOOGLE SEARCH EXPERTZ ARGUING!!!!
Rent Party: Just out of curiosity*, and outside the cost of the car, what were your total install costs for that system? And how big is your house, and where do you live?/ Genuinely curious.
Nuclear vs Solar:
Summercat: Hi Ringy :3I still want to print your comic. I even know a guy who does damn fine work, and he might give ya a discount on it n.n
Rambino: catpuncher: Now compare the amount of energy the two produce.And then compare how much a cat poops to how far you can ride a unicorn fart.Your meaningless comparison is meaningless.
Hollie Maea: Martian_Astronomer: Hollie Maea: I should clarify that the actual manufacture of silicon cells does contain plenty of nasty acids. But the nice thing about acid is that after you use them they aren't nasty any more.If you like having bones, respect the HF.Yeah that's the scariest stuff we have (well there is some silane gas I would prefer not to light on fire). The floor is covered with calcium gluconate stations. But we have not had any HF incidents in the years I have been there. We are pretty careful with that stuff.
maxheck: Rambino:Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The thing about nuclear vs solar is that nuclear takes 8 years to build, even after you get all the permitting taken care of. That's a huge investment of capital for a damn long time before you see a return. With solar, once the permits are in place you're generating electricity within 3 months, very little time to tie up dead money before some cash starts coming back in.Also, you don't need a billion dollars to throw up some solar panels. Downward scalability is a pretty big deal.That's why utilities love grid-tie systems. If enough people install them, they can avoid the stranded costs of having to build a half-billion dollar gas plant that only gets spun up during business and air-conditioning hours.Every time I fly I look down and see huge warehouses and big-box stores and the sort of buildings with literal acres of flat roofs, the sort of things that cluster around airports, and I think of how many of them could be net producers of power to the point where they pay the investment off in 5 years or so and anything after that is pure profit. It's kinda a shame that this isn't being taken advantage of.
Martian_Astronomer: I used to work in solar R&D, so I'm getting a kick....
king_nacho: 12349876: DrPainMD: As soon as the solar power subsidies expire, it will go back to being more coal miners.No, it will just be more natural gas. That's what's hurting coal right now. Nothing else. Just natural gas. As long as that's cheaper to get out of the ground that's what they'll be doing instead of coal.this. Coal needs more innovation in extraction, get the price on extraction back down and then we'll have something.
incrdbil: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Do they even mine anymore? I thought they just blew the tops of off mountains are ruined entire forest ecosystems and rural communities?Mountain top removal is not the 'strip mining' of old. Forests are not devasttaed, and rural communities benefit, do not suffer from it. And yes, conventional mining still occurs.
DrPainMD: As soon as the solar power oil subsidies expire, it will go back to being more coal miners horse and buggies.
DrPainMD: As soon as the solar power subsidies expire, it will go back to being more coal miners.
b2theory: While I am more of a nuclear guy, this is cool.
Lidocaine: I'll stand up and cheer about such stats when my utility bills start trending in a downward direction instead of their current upward climb...
studs up: I was believing the math until this from tfa: solar workers outnumber actors in Californiabull-farking-shiatbullshiat
studs up: I was believing the math until this from tfa: solar workers outnumber successful actors in Californiabull-farking-shiatbullshiat
Lsherm: Two things I don't understand about this: Why is New Jersey installing more solar panels than anyone else
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