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(US Naval Institute)   26 U.S. Navy ship naming controversies. If you are going to name ships after gays, Confederates, Jesus or socialists, someone is going to have a problem with it   (news.usni.org) divider line 250
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2013-04-23 05:57:18 PM

Darth Vader Ginsburg: The Brits have the best names for their Navy
HMS Ajax
HMS Battleaxe (with Bea Arthur Figurehead)
HMS Vendetta
HMS Vengeance...


We do ship names very well. For example; Audacious, Warspite, Spiteful, Furious, Ambush, Enterprise, Daring, Dauntless and my favourite Agamemnon.
And now we have a Queen
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2013-04-23 05:58:11 PM

Aidan: m053486: DDG-70 Hopper would like a word...

/They named it after a woman
//Wasn't a problem for me, but a lot of sailors and officers had a problem with the name

As a woman and a programmer, with all due respect to those sailors and officers, they should sit the fark down and show some farking respect. Madam Hopper was a boss.


Not to mention the fact she was also a Navy Admiral.
 
2013-04-23 05:58:57 PM
Walter Mondale?
 
2013-04-23 05:59:22 PM

The5thElement: Aidan: m053486: DDG-70 Hopper would like a word...

/They named it after a woman
//Wasn't a problem for me, but a lot of sailors and officers had a problem with the name

As a woman and a programmer, with all due respect to those sailors and officers, they should sit the fark down and show some farking respect. Madam Hopper was a boss.

Not to mention the fact she was also a Navy Admiral.


Indeed. I just didn't know how to say Rear Admiral as a title. :)
 
2013-04-23 06:00:52 PM
USS Emperor Norton?
 
2013-04-23 06:01:46 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Yes, let's name a ship for Fightin' Gabby!



Defender of our rights! All of them!


If you built it with a hole in the head, would that mean the sailors would be pissing straight into the ocean?
 
2013-04-23 06:04:23 PM

ds615: This is why the Soviets just numbered things.  It's hard to get all riled up about the KV-132.


That was pragmatic. They saved a lot of money on paint that way, because people were always falling in and out of favor.
 
2013-04-23 06:06:22 PM
Around WWII, the corvette class ships were named after flowers.  They were strictly forbidden from naming any of them "pansy."
 
2013-04-23 06:06:27 PM
Vinson was a dick to Spruance but, like Stennis, controlled the cash, so got a carrier named after him.

The USS W should be a decoy rubber dinghy towed behind a garbage scow.
 
2013-04-23 06:07:05 PM

maxx2112: To no one's everlasting glory, there isn't a ship named Rodger Young.


/ yet


Nice.
 
2013-04-23 06:08:37 PM
HMS Thatcher - minesweeper
 
2013-04-23 06:10:46 PM

ha-ha-guy: skullkrusher: USS Corpus Christi-Los Angeles-class attack submarines are named after U.S. cities, but religious groups protested the selection of Corpus Christi because it meant that an instrument of war would bear the Latin phrase "body of Christ." The Navy rectified the problem by modifying the sub's name to City of Corpus Christi.

Was not expecting the complaints about a ship named after Jesus to be FROM religious groups

It looks bad when if it is sunk (Jesus didn't protect "his" namesake from the evil USSR).  Same reason Hitler renamed the Deutschland.


But can it stay under for three days?
 
2013-04-23 06:11:25 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Vinson was a dick to Spruance but, like Stennis, controlled the cash, so got a carrier named after him.

The USS W should be a decoy rubber dinghy towed behind a garbage scow.


You're thinking of the obummer
 
2013-04-23 06:11:57 PM

SN1987a goes boom: How about the USS John McCain?

You know its coming as soon as that shiathead dies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_S._McCain_%28DDG-56%29  Already named after Daddy
 
2013-04-23 06:14:45 PM
USS Polysyllabic Designation?
 
2013-04-23 06:14:53 PM

cman: No one living should have a ship named after them.

That is just the way it should be.


Exactly. Ships have souls, and the ship can't share its soul with a living person, now can it?
 
2013-04-23 06:14:59 PM
USS Ess Ess ?
 
2013-04-23 06:16:09 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: If they ever run short on names, I wish they'd consider some Mad Magazine/Don Martin type sound effects for names.

USS Plortch
USS Bukkida Bukkida
USS Fffrrraapft
USS Fizzazzit
USS Fleedle
USS Gaplonk
USS Plop Phelop
USS Poit
USS Zwit-Sproing


List fails without the USS Potrzebie and the USS Poiuyt.

Oh, and the USS Squamish.
 
2013-04-23 06:16:59 PM
Just as much a fiction as yours, Devil's Playground.

But plenty more creative.

images.wikia.com
 
2013-04-23 06:18:00 PM
"If you are going to name ships after gays, Confederates, Jesus or socialists, someone is going to have a problem with it"

www.nicaraguanbugle.com

+ Bragg, Lee, Hood, A.P. Hill, Gordon.......
 
2013-04-23 06:18:01 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: cman: No one living should have a ship named after them.

That is just the way it should be.

Exactly. Ships have souls, and the ship can't share its soul with a living person, now can it?


Shoes have soles; ships have decks.

Here's a fun fact: a significant number of our words relating to the Navy are borrowings from Dutch. This is because of the Glorious Revolution which brought a Dutchman to the throne of England. He combined the two Navies into one bringing a shiat ton of Dutch into our already crowded tongue.
 
2013-04-23 06:18:53 PM

Brick-House: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Vinson was a dick to Spruance but, like Stennis, controlled the cash, so got a carrier named after him.

The USS W should be a decoy rubber dinghy towed behind a garbage scow.

You're thinking of the obummer


And you're thinking of Dick(less) Cheney...
 
2013-04-23 06:19:15 PM
We should just go with Iain Banks' ship-naming examples in his Culture novels. So we'd have vessels like

USS Just Read the Instructions
USS So Much for Subtlety
USS Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality
USS Resistance is Character-Forming
USS You May Not Be the Coolest Person Here


/Way to many to enumerate here
/Full list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series
 
2013-04-23 06:19:57 PM

RY28: USS Ess Ess ?


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2013-04-23 06:22:00 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I was told (a probably apocryphal story) about a USCG ship, Firebush. Supposedly one of the COs was a redheaded female, and the first announcement of "Firebush, arriving" was met with many hearty lulz.


I retired from the CG a few years ago and I heard that story about a hundred times or more throughout my career.  No idea if it's true or not, but I would guess it's BS.

/ and Jimmy Buffet was never in the Coast Guard
// but yes, Popeye was a Coastie (and Navy, and Army)
 
2013-04-23 06:22:39 PM

Gsm136: Walter Mondale?


USS Walter Mondale was a laundry ship
 
2013-04-23 06:22:49 PM
All this bru-ha-ha over crafts both real and ficitonal, and no one's mentoned the USS Flagg yet?!

<www.yojoe.com

Shame. Shame on you ALL.
 
2013-04-23 06:24:08 PM

skullkrusher: USS Corpus Christi-Los Angeles-class attack submarines are named after U.S. cities, but religious groups protested the selection of Corpus Christi because it meant that an instrument of war would bear the Latin phrase "body of Christ." The Navy rectified the problem by modifying the sub's name to City of Corpus Christi.

Was not expecting the complaints about a ship named after Jesus to be FROM religious groups


Catholic church was very unhappy. The Body of Christ is supposed to save mankind not destroy it with nuclear weapons.
 
2013-04-23 06:25:23 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: "If you are going to name ships after gays, Confederates, Jesus or socialists, someone is going to have a problem with it"

[www.nicaraguanbugle.com image 300x217]

+ Bragg, Lee, Hood, A.P. Hill, Gordon.......


At least the Confederate Army was pretty good at what they did, their Navy was craptacular.
 
2013-04-23 06:25:46 PM
Do we have ships named after comic book superheroes yet? The USS Batman would be an awesome name for a ship in my opinion.
 
2013-04-23 06:26:44 PM

forresttriax: skullkrusher: USS Corpus Christi-Los Angeles-class attack submarines are named after U.S. cities, but religious groups protested the selection of Corpus Christi because it meant that an instrument of war would bear the Latin phrase "body of Christ." The Navy rectified the problem by modifying the sub's name to City of Corpus Christi.

Was not expecting the complaints about a ship named after Jesus to be FROM religious groups

Catholic church was very unhappy. The Body of Christ is supposed to save mankind not destroy it with nuclear weapons.


And if it was the "Our Lady the Queen of Angels" class submarine I'm certain they would be equally pissed about that.
 
2013-04-23 06:27:27 PM

ha-ha-guy: UNC_Samurai: You want to start a flamewar?  Go onto a naval wargaming forum and ask whether the USS Alaska (CB-1) was a cruiser or a battlecruiser - it's some of the neckbeardiest fun you can have.

Clearly a battlecruiser, since they were designed to hunt down and kill hostile cruisers, which is about the same as saying "designed to hunt down and destroy enemy convoys and their escorts".  We just didn't want to use battlecruiser since that was associated with cowardly raids on merchant shipping and most of the battlecruisers we'd faced had come to a bad end.

Although i never really got why the neckbeards get so worked up over battlecruiser/pocket battleship/heavy cruiser differences.  Pre war the Germans built all kinds of stuff with the basic idea of "build something as close to a battleship as possible, but keep it just small enough the Brits can't biatch too much".  The Japanese were doing whatever the hell they wanted and calling it whatever they wanted.  Trying make the Alaska class fit in with any of those ships is futile when the designation of the ships only had a passing acquaintance with reality.

/it would have been interesting to see a Deutschland or Hipper class go 1v1 with an interwar battleship


Well a Pocket battleship was relatively balanced in its armour and guns but bigger than a standard heavy cruiser, its like an extra heavy heavy cruiser.

A battle cruiser had battleship sized guns but not battleship amounts of armour, sort of a glass cannon.

They both kinda served the same purpose (beat the shiat out of enemy cruisers but have to run away from a battleship) pockets where much cheaper than a battle cruiser, but a battle cruiser could better augment your battleship force in a battle againt other battleships.
 
2013-04-23 06:27:46 PM

cman: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: cman: No one living should have a ship named after them.

That is just the way it should be.

Exactly. Ships have souls, and the ship can't share its soul with a living person, now can it?

Shoes have soles; ships have decks.

Here's a fun fact: a significant number of our words relating to the Navy are borrowings from Dutch. This is because of the Glorious Revolution which brought a Dutchman to the throne of England. He combined the two Navies into one bringing a shiat ton of Dutch into our already crowded tongue.


Peter the Great points and laughs.

/seriously
//fordevind, gintdevind are Russian words for points of sail
 
2013-04-23 06:28:22 PM

Anenu: Do we have ships named after comic book superheroes yet? The USS Batman would be an awesome name for a ship in my opinion.


Actually, they already have a USS Batman, it just has a small typo.
 
2013-04-23 06:28:25 PM

ds615: This is why the Soviets just numbered things.  It's hard to get all riled up about the KV-132.


Nyet, should be Sovetsky Soyuz, SS-132.

/riledski
 
2013-04-23 06:28:46 PM

forresttriax: skullkrusher: USS Corpus Christi-Los Angeles-class attack submarines are named after U.S. cities, but religious groups protested the selection of Corpus Christi because it meant that an instrument of war would bear the Latin phrase "body of Christ." The Navy rectified the problem by modifying the sub's name to City of Corpus Christi.

Was not expecting the complaints about a ship named after Jesus to be FROM religious groups

Catholic church was very unhappy. The Body of Christ is supposed to save mankind not destroy it with nuclear weapons.


The USS City of Corpus Cristi had one major flaw, it had a very hard time submerging
 
2013-04-23 06:32:08 PM
USS Starbucks - Starts off as just one ship, soon multiples and is found everywhere
USS Trojan - Best at protection
USS Snuggles - Nothing worse than to have to admit that your ship was sunk by the Snuggles.
USS Pepsi - rest of the fleet keeps calling it the USS Coke
USS Xbox 360 - Red Ring of Death isn't a new weapon it uses, it's what sank it.
 
2013-04-23 06:32:18 PM
As an aside, for Russian ship names you can find a few here  http://www.rjlee.org/shipind.html

The Soviets didn't just number things.
 
2013-04-23 06:39:11 PM

Great Janitor: USS Starbucks - Starts off as just one ship, soon multiples and is found everywhere
USS Trojan - Best at protection
USS Snuggles - Nothing worse than to have to admit that your ship was sunk by the Snuggles.
USS Pepsi - rest of the fleet keeps calling it the USS Coke
USS Xbox 360 - Red Ring of Death isn't a new weapon it uses, it's what sank it.


USS Wii - Every screen onboard looks like crap compared to those on other ships
USS Walmart - Cheapest ship in the fleet; crewed by people desperate for any kind of work
USS Target - Better than USS Walmart, but just barely
USS Ford Motor Co. - Often found adrift, since something is always broken
USS Bugatti Veyron - Ridiculously overpriced, but faster than anything else
USS Electronic Arts - Cannot be operated without an active internet connection
USS AT&T - Wait...it actually works? Wow.
 
2013-04-23 06:40:28 PM

ha-ha-guy: UNC_Samurai: You want to start a flamewar?  Go onto a naval wargaming forum and ask whether the USS Alaska (CB-1) was a cruiser or a battlecruiser - it's some of the neckbeardiest fun you can have.

Clearly a battlecruiser, since they were designed to hunt down and kill hostile cruisers, which is about the same as saying "designed to hunt down and destroy enemy convoys and their escorts".  We just didn't want to use battlecruiser since that was associated with cowardly raids on merchant shipping and most of the battlecruisers we'd faced had come to a bad end.

Although i never really got why the neckbeards get so worked up over battlecruiser/pocket battleship/heavy cruiser differences.  Pre war the Germans built all kinds of stuff with the basic idea of "build something as close to a battleship as possible, but keep it just small enough the Brits can't biatch too much".  The Japanese were doing whatever the hell they wanted and calling it whatever they wanted.  Trying make the Alaska class fit in with any of those ships is futile when the designation of the ships only had a passing acquaintance with reality.

/it would have been interesting to see a Deutschland or Hipper class go 1v1 with an interwar battleship

the two coolist classifications, "ship of the line" best "dreadnought"!
 
2013-04-23 06:41:37 PM
We once sent a lot of deployment with the USS Samuel B. Roberts, a guided missle frigate, During our transit across the Atlantic Ocean  we had many long and boring bridge watches, and  we began to refer to it as the "Dread Frigate Roberts" which stuck for the rest of the deployment.
 
2013-04-23 06:42:22 PM
The USS Faaaaabulous!
 
2013-04-23 06:46:38 PM

Aidan: m053486: DDG-70 Hopper would like a word...

/They named it after a woman
//Wasn't a problem for me, but a lot of sailors and officers had a problem with the name

As a woman and a programmer, with all due respect to those sailors and officers, they should sit the fark down and show some farking respect. Madam Hopper was a boss.


yeah i doubt a lot of sailors and officers had a problem with the name....i can see some joking about the name but she was the most capable (non CVN) ship in the world when she was built...they are certainly proud to serve on her.
 
2013-04-23 06:47:11 PM
Join the Navy and serve on the USS Cesar Chavez!

The Navy. It's not just a job. It's the two worst years of your life.
 
2013-04-23 06:48:22 PM

ds615: This is why the Soviets just numbered things.  It's hard to get all riled up about the KV-132.


Ironic. They probably owe the revolution to a named ship.
 
2013-04-23 06:48:41 PM
The USS Gabrielle Giffords.

We put the littoral in....oh, never mind...
 
2013-04-23 06:49:10 PM
Ahh, the good old days when political influence could be bartered for with naming rights instead of the current practice of paying cold, hard cash. The Citizens United ruling really stole the thunder from the Armed Forces and the USPS.
 
2013-04-23 06:49:49 PM

praxcelis: We should just go with Iain Banks' ship-naming examples in his Culture novels. So we'd have vessels like

USS Just Read the Instructions
USS So Much for Subtlety
USS Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality
USS Resistance is Character-Forming
USS You May Not Be the Coolest Person Here

/Way to many to enumerate here
/Full list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series


My god. It's full of awesome. It reads like a shorthand version of Skippy's List.
 
2013-04-23 06:50:34 PM

Snarfangel: Come on, the USS Prince of Peace is an awesome name for an aircraft carrier.


I must say, yes it is. A bit more classy and subtle than the USS Might Makes Right.
 
2013-04-23 06:50:40 PM

maram500: Great Janitor: USS Starbucks - Starts off as just one ship, soon multiples and is found everywhere
USS Trojan - Best at protection
USS Snuggles - Nothing worse than to have to admit that your ship was sunk by the Snuggles.
USS Pepsi - rest of the fleet keeps calling it the USS Coke
USS Xbox 360 - Red Ring of Death isn't a new weapon it uses, it's what sank it.

USS Wii - Every screen onboard looks like crap compared to those on other ships
USS Walmart - Cheapest ship in the fleet; crewed by people desperate for any kind of work
USS Target - Better than USS Walmart, but just barely
USS Ford Motor Co. - Often found adrift, since something is always broken
USS Bugatti Veyron - Ridiculously overpriced, but faster than anything else
USS Electronic Arts - Cannot be operated without an active internet connection
USS AT&T - Wait...it actually works? Wow.


USS Primerica - Each sailor has to pay $100 to join the crew and then has to recruit his friends as well.
USS Disney - Just decommissioned the USS Lucasarts, a perfectly good ship with real potential.
USS Colt - The media keeps referring to it as the USS Glock.
USS Lexus - Crewed by the USS Toyota
 
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