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2013-04-23 01:31:13 PM
Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

How on earth was this guy convicted for "intent to distrubute" 1.3 grams of marijuana?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 01:37:44 PM

BunkyBrewman: Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

How on earth was this guy convicted for "intent to distrubute" 1.3 grams of marijuana?


It's Georgia.
 
2013-04-23 01:46:36 PM
This is Georgia:

www.planetware.com

This is your brain on Georgia:

lh6.ggpht.com

Any questions?
 
2013-04-23 01:56:24 PM

BunkyBrewman: Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

How on earth was this guy convicted for "intent to distrubute" 1.3 grams of marijuana?


Passin' de spliff, mon
 
2013-04-23 02:34:37 PM

BunkyBrewman: Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

How on earth was this guy convicted for "intent to distrubute" 1.3 grams of marijuana?


He's black.  Clearly he was planning to distribute it into an innocent white woman's drink, thereby making her crave some dark mandingo man meat.
 
2013-04-23 03:14:35 PM
"too"
 
2013-04-23 03:33:45 PM
Jamaican me high, mon!
 
2013-04-23 03:34:41 PM

ArcadianRefugee: "too"


Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!
 
2013-04-23 03:36:35 PM

olddeegee: ArcadianRefugee: "too"

Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!


Thanks for the repair! I'm gonna head out and celebrate in the Jamaican way!
 
2013-04-23 03:38:54 PM

olddeegee: Subby here. This is my 200th green


*golfclap*
 
2013-04-23 03:39:06 PM

olddeegee: olddeegee: ArcadianRefugee: "too"

Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Thanks for the repair! I'm gonna head out and celebrate in the Jamaican way!


Bobsled run?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 03:56:50 PM
Submitter's headline is correct -- this is a value judgment by the court, not a necessary conclusion of law.

Thomas' dissent is worth a look, because he rightly points out this area of the law is a mess. Not just deportation, but also the Armed Career Criminal Act and federal sentencing guidelines refer to state crimes as if all states had a uniform set of laws consistent with federal criminal law and the common law.

In the previous decade one of the big legal questions federal appeals courts had to decide was, what is burglary? The ACCA says a prior conviction of burglary is bad. In some states reaching through the open sunroof of a car to steal a pair of sunglasses is burglary. (Not sure if an open side window counts.) Congress didn't intend that to count as a violent felony under federal law, but judges could not tell from the defendant's record of conviction whether he was convicted of burglary burglary or larceny from a vehicle.

The sentencing guidelines say statutory rape is a serious felony, but that simple sounding statement is vague enough that the Fifth Circuit had to convene en banc to sort it out. (Under federal law it's rape if she's under 16, but under Texas law it's rape if she's under 17. Does a Texas conviction for sex with a 16 year old count as a statutory rape conviction for purposes of federal law? They said yes.)
 
2013-04-23 04:49:37 PM
Its like raaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
 
2013-04-23 04:53:25 PM
Sanity is finally returning after 100 years of insane derp.
 
2013-04-23 04:53:25 PM
Not enough ganja.
 
2013-04-23 04:53:52 PM
1.3 hahhahahhahhahahhah, distribution hahahhhahhahahahaaha

Seriously he had a decent joint amount.

His lawyer must have been incompetent if he/she couldn't get rid of that charge.
 
2013-04-23 04:55:04 PM
I dont see the irony.
 
2013-04-23 04:55:31 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Racist.
 
2013-04-23 04:56:02 PM
In the mid 90s some NBA player* got nabbed by Jamaican customs for trying to smuggle ganj INTO Jamaica. Yeah because it would be so very hard to find good smoke in JAMAICA.

Jackfark.

*thimkinChris Webber but not sure.
 
2013-04-23 04:58:41 PM
I really would like to know how they got that intent to distribute to stick and it not be a felony. According to NORML here are the breakdowns in Georgia

http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/georgia-penalties
 
2013-04-23 05:00:56 PM
I find it interesting that it's a Georgia case, and yet, I can't seem to locate any local media items about it.  Hmmm,  yup, sounds about right for around here.

And the dude probably got popped because he wouldn't puff, puff, pass.
 
2013-04-23 05:01:07 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x180]

Racist.


Came for the Pam reference, leaving happy.
 
2013-04-23 05:05:02 PM
1.3 grams? That's only a fat joint, and I use a Zig Zag or JOB 1.0 single wide paper
 
2013-04-23 05:05:13 PM

kindms: I really would like to know how they got that intent to distribute to stick and it not be a felony. According to NORML here are the breakdowns in Georgia

http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/georgia-penalties


Could be that the guy pled guilty to PWID in order to get the state to drop other lesser offenses (paraphanelia (sp?), distance from a school, stuff like that) and didn't realize that "mandatory deportation" would be part of the deal.
 
2013-04-23 05:06:11 PM

olddeegee: ArcadianRefugee: "too"

Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!


Damn. I should hang my head in Fark Shame. Never submitted a link.
 
2013-04-23 05:07:19 PM
1.3g is a felony in the state that elected Jimmy Carter, and roots for the Failcons.....  Perhaps I should be more shocked.

*rereads TFA*

Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

This ruling is bad news for both get-tough-on-crime state politicians, and alien stoners.  They can still deport you, but the lazy bureaucrats have to do more work.
 
2013-04-23 05:07:54 PM

Gonz: kindms: I really would like to know how they got that intent to distribute to stick and it not be a felony. According to NORML here are the breakdowns in Georgia

http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/georgia-penalties

Could be that the guy pled guilty to PWID in order to get the state to drop other lesser offenses (paraphanelia (sp?), distance from a school, stuff like that) and didn't realize that "mandatory deportation" would be part of the deal.


No.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 05:08:55 PM
kindms

Under federal law distribution is a felony, except if it's a small amount for personal use with no money changing hands it's a misdemeanor. The argument was over whether this guy could get the benefit of the misdemeanor exception. If he had been in federal court the felony/misdemeanor status would have been a factual issue to be decided at trial. Seven members of the court said this case looks like the misdemeanor version, even though the state court never decided the question. The problem with that approach is you have to have a second trial to decide what the outcome of the first trial meant, and there may be no evidence on the issue because it was not relevant at the first trial.
 
2013-04-23 05:10:12 PM
Intent to distribute can mean something as simple as planning to share a joint. Silly farkers.
 
2013-04-23 05:10:46 PM
And Bob Marley slowly turns and walks away.
 
2013-04-23 05:13:08 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: olddeegee: ArcadianRefugee: "too"

Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Damn. I should hang my head in Fark Shame. Never submitted a link.


Don't bother, as the mods play favorites.  A newbie takes years and hundreds of tries to break into the elite ranks.
Or just pay the five bucks a month for TF.
 
2013-04-23 05:14:58 PM
Why in the fark did it go that far? Just fine him $200 and tell him to kick rocks
 
2013-04-23 05:15:48 PM
I was coming to make the 1.3 gram comment.

That's barely enough to be there.

/believe it should all be legalized.
/never done any myself.
 
2013-04-23 05:18:49 PM
Great.  Now get the Jamaican cops to give me back the $40 I had to pay them for me likkle "misunderstanding" and we'll call it even.
 
2013-04-23 05:22:15 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Gonz: kindms: I really would like to know how they got that intent to distribute to stick and it not be a felony. According to NORML here are the breakdowns in Georgia

http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/georgia-penalties

Could be that the guy pled guilty to PWID in order to get the state to drop other lesser offenses (paraphanelia (sp?), distance from a school, stuff like that) and didn't realize that "mandatory deportation" would be part of the deal.

No.


Well, from the .pdf of the decision: "He pleaded guilty under Georgia law to possession of marijuana with intent to distribute."

And, from the opinion, "Under a Georgia statute providing more lenient treatment to first-time offenders, §42-8-60(a) (1997), the trial court withheld entering a judgment of conviction or imposing any term of imprisonment, and instead required that Moncrieffe complete five years of probation, after which his charge will be expunged altogether."

So, that's how they got the guy to plead guilty.
 
2013-04-23 05:22:59 PM

rkiller1: DROxINxTHExWIND: olddeegee: ArcadianRefugee: "too"

Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Damn. I should hang my head in Fark Shame. Never submitted a link.

Don't bother, as the mods play favorites.  A newbie takes years and hundreds of tries to break into the elite ranks.
Or just pay the five bucks a month for TF.


Is that the game? Shiat, people keep exposing me to the man behind the curtain on Fark. I was just told that Fark is basically Drew and some unpaid computer geeks who act as moderators. As I said in a previous thread, I pictured a group of 30 somethings sitting around a conference table with laptops, doing gay shiat to each other ala Tosh.0.
 
2013-04-23 05:24:22 PM
I got caught with a pipefull walking home from work one night.
He asked me why I had it.
I told him it is a very stressful job.
He asks why do you still have it.
I said I had an easy night.
He threw it away.
 
2013-04-23 05:36:40 PM
Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

more like possession with intent to get some more because he was running low

 
2013-04-23 05:38:41 PM

rkiller1: DROxINxTHExWIND: olddeegee: ArcadianRefugee: "too"

Subby here. This is my 200th green, and I can't believe I managed a grammatical error. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Damn. I should hang my head in Fark Shame. Never submitted a link.

Don't bother, as the mods play favorites.  A newbie takes years and hundreds of tries to break into the elite ranks.
Or just

pay the five bucks a month for TF be funny.
Most of mine were done blindly without a TF subscription and without whining about it. Never made it to a party or met another Farker. So... playing favorites?
 
2013-04-23 05:44:46 PM

rkiller1: Don't bother, as the mods play favorites. A newbie takes years and hundreds of tries to break into the elite ranks.
Or just pay the five bucks a month for TF.


bleh....who knows.  they claim they don't play favorites but there was a story not terribly long ago where the admin said something like, "yeah, that had been submitted a lot, but it seemed like a [name of TFer] type story so we waited for him to submit it."  so whatever.
 
2013-04-23 05:48:02 PM

rickythepenguin: In the mid 90s some NBA player* got nabbed by Jamaican customs for trying to smuggle ganj INTO Jamaica. Yeah because it would be so very hard to find good smoke in JAMAICA.

Jackfark.

*thimkinChris Webber but not sure.


Wtf??? Really?
100 american dollars would damn near get you a garbage bag full of the shiat there
 
2013-04-23 05:58:15 PM
I think we're all overlooking two amazing facts of this finding:

1)  Scalia voted IN FAVOR of not deporting the guy

2)  Thomas voted DIFFERENTLY than Scalia

Next you'll tell me Thomas asked questions during the oral arguments for this one.  :)
 
2013-04-23 06:20:18 PM
I may or may not have 1.3 grams at some point but if I do it's certainly not enough that I'd be distributing it anywhere. Seriously, that's like a large joint. Hell, it ain't even all that large. Probably fill one big pre-rolled cone, not that I'd know anything about that.
 
2013-04-23 06:23:05 PM
FTFA: The court held on a 7-2 vote that Adrian Moncrieffe, a Jamaican citizen, could not be subject to mandatory deportation because basic marijuana possession is not a felony under federal law.

That was the best Bunburying I've ever seen.

/sort of obscure
 
2013-04-23 06:23:57 PM

ShawnDoc: BunkyBrewman: Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

How on earth was this guy convicted for "intent to distrubute" 1.3 grams of marijuana?

He's black.  Clearly he was planning to distribute it into an innocent white woman's drink, thereby making her crave some dark mandingo man meat.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Already have a script treatment for "Mandingo II" in the pipeline...

/Mandingo II - The Re... Re...
 
2013-04-23 06:27:44 PM
So did they put the 1.3 milligrams into the evidence locker?
 
2013-04-23 06:36:57 PM

BunkyBrewman: Immigration officials sought to deport Moncrieffe after he was convicted under Georgia law for possession and intent to distribute 1.3 grams of marijuana.

How on earth was this guy convicted for "intent to distrubute" 1.3 grams of marijuana?


He's BLACK!

Seriously and Holy Farking Christ.  These asshole issue a writ to hear THIS shiat when things are as farked up as they are?  They use one of their 80 cases on a dude with a gram of dope?  how does this shiat ever make it that far?

On the other hand, not hearing it would have been even worse.
 
2013-04-23 06:41:16 PM

Turbo Cojones: Seriously and Holy Farking Christ. These asshole issue a writ to hear THIS shiat when things are as farked up as they are? They use one of their 80 cases on a dude with a gram of dope? how does this shiat ever make it that far?


It pends on how state rulings weigh on federal law.
 
2013-04-23 07:11:36 PM

offmymeds: This is Georgia:

[www.planetware.com image 450x450]

This is your brain on Georgia:

[lh6.ggpht.com image 549x417]

Any questions?


Dammit. I just bought this keyboarrrrrrd.
 
2013-04-23 07:14:05 PM
TFA: Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito both wrote dissenting opinions.

Is this bizarro SCOTUS?
 
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