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(EclectaBlog)   Problem: You're a Republican legislator and you agree with a bill introduced by a Dem but don't want to be called a RINO. Solution: Kill the Dem's bill and introduce a word-for-word copy under your own name   (eclectablog.com) divider line 91
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2013-04-23 01:21:17 PM
They have to steal good ideas, since they have none of their own.
 
2013-04-23 01:38:30 PM
flicksided.com
 
2013-04-23 01:53:46 PM
Children.

Look, I don't care if Hitler has the good idea, if it is a good idea, helps others and avoids final solutions, then great.
 
2013-04-23 01:55:56 PM
This s why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-04-23 02:07:26 PM
www.leragecomics.com
 
2013-04-23 02:12:54 PM
Country before Party though right guys.
 
2013-04-23 02:15:04 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: they're god damn comic book villains of the cheesiest kind.
 
2013-04-23 02:56:48 PM
Toasters, they're toasters, aren't they.

Skinjobs, the lot of them, all this time!!

*drool, twitch*
 
2013-04-23 03:06:18 PM

Nadie_AZ: Children.

Look, I don't care if Hitler has the good idea, if it is a good idea, helps others and avoids final solutions, then great.


Whenever I hear that, I know I'm about to get screwed out of recognition, pay, or both.
 
2013-04-23 03:26:33 PM
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
2013-04-23 03:27:50 PM
republicans are a cancer
 
2013-04-23 03:27:53 PM
"You might think that with such a blatant theft Stamas would have added his own spin to the resolution. You would be wrong. HJR L and HJR N are identical, word-for-word."

I used to insert "invisible" identifiers in reports and queries I wrote so I could tell when my work was being copied or reused, just for my own knowledge. This likely being simple copypasta I'd start trying to work in a sentence whose initial letters spell "GOPSUCKS."
 
2013-04-23 03:38:35 PM
And his mouth breathing constituents will cheer along like the little dittoheads they are.
 
2013-04-23 04:00:01 PM
Come on sane GOP leaders grow some balls and tell the ultra righties to fark off and grow up in to the 21st century.

/either that or just switch parties.
 
2013-04-23 04:02:52 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Don't hate the player, hate the game.


The game doesn't exist without the 'tards who perpetuate it - the players.
 
2013-04-23 04:18:31 PM
Well.... as long as it gets done, I guess.
 
2013-04-23 04:27:15 PM

MrBallou: I've said it before and I'll say it again: they're god damn comic book villains of the cheesiest kind.


They're preschoolers. "I can't play with that toy, Billy was touching it first!"
 
2013-04-23 04:35:53 PM
Yes but if Democrat bills are allowed to pass as Democrat bills then the whole country will be taken over by lesbian bassoonists and we will all be forced at gunpoint to read the book "Ulysses" by James Franco
 
2013-04-23 04:40:30 PM
Here's a picture of the Michigan Republican majority leader:

conceptcrucible.com
 
2013-04-23 04:40:38 PM
It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

It's absolutely insane childishness from a governing body.
 
2013-04-23 04:41:31 PM

Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.


So vote Republican?
 
2013-04-23 04:42:19 PM
farking sad that every R involved can't be fired and barred from holding public office, immediately.
 
2013-04-23 04:43:13 PM

WTFDYW: Come on sane GOP leaders grow some balls and tell the ultra righties to fark off and grow up in to the 21st century.

/either that or just switch parties.


These aren't the ultra right-wing Republicans. These are regular Republicans, who are completely unable or unwilling to do what's in the best interests of our country if it means working with Democrats. Stop pretending that the GOP has been hijacked. The entire party is bad,
 
2013-04-23 04:44:14 PM
Hell, that stuff happens all the time for generations. I'm surprised it still makes news.
 
2013-04-23 04:44:21 PM

GoldSpider: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

So vote Republican?


Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're all supposed to vote Republican now because Dems sometimes do bad things.   I'm glad Goldspider cleared that up.
 
2013-04-23 04:45:59 PM

The Name: Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're all supposed to vote Republican now because Dems sometimes do bad things. I'm glad Goldspider cleared that up.


Don't yell at me, I didn't invent the Fark Independent.
 
2013-04-23 04:46:14 PM
So? This is exactly what Romney was going to do with the ACA. His whole "repeal and replace" idea boiled down to "repeal, put a new cover sheet on it with my name, and pass it with 100% Republican approval."
 
2013-04-23 04:47:24 PM

WTFDYW: sane GOP leaders


i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-23 04:47:48 PM

stoli n coke: So? This is exactly what Romney was going to do with the ACA. His whole "repeal and replace" idea boiled down to "repeal, put a new cover sheet on it with my name, and pass it with 100% Republican approval."


Think he would have put in a couple tax cuts too.
 
2013-04-23 04:48:37 PM
Being in the legislature is all about destroying the country these days.
 
2013-04-23 04:50:56 PM

GoldSpider: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

So vote Republican?


One of the examples was were a Senate bill was introduced by Dem after a House bill had been introduced by a republican. Not really a grand indictment.
 
2013-04-23 04:51:04 PM

GoldSpider: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

So vote Republican?


If he promises to only introduce bills proposed by Democrats? Sure, why not?
 
2013-04-23 04:53:33 PM
How absolutely disgusting.  Thank you Michigan GOP for lowering the bar for the Republican Party. Twas quite the challenge.
 
2013-04-23 04:54:30 PM
What a fine, fiscally responsible use of tax-payers' time.
 
2013-04-23 04:54:52 PM

MrBallou: I've said it before and I'll say it again: they're god damn comic book villains of the cheesiest kind.


img9.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-23 04:54:53 PM
www.posterenvy.com

So, what's the opposite of this?
 
2013-04-23 04:56:50 PM
Woohoo!  Bipartisanship!
 
2013-04-23 04:57:45 PM
Just do something like this with bills that might get "stolen":

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-23 04:58:34 PM

HeartBurnKid: [www.posterenvy.com image 600x405]

So, what's the opposite of this?


Thanks.  In all this partisanship, I had forgotten that quote.
 
2013-04-23 04:59:28 PM

HeartBurnKid: [www.posterenvy.com image 600x405]

So, what's the opposite of this?


You can accomplish mediocre things, but at least you will get credit.
 
2013-04-23 05:00:07 PM

GoldSpider: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

So vote Republican?


So primary your arseholes. And don't get all sanctimonious with the rest of us if we don't show up to support your arsehole whom you refused to primary and he loses in the general.
 
2013-04-23 05:02:27 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: MrBallou: I've said it before and I'll say it again: they're god damn comic book villains of the cheesiest kind.

They're preschoolers. "I can't play with that toy, Billy was touching it first!"


There's a key difference between preschoolers and Republican legislators...

Adult supervision.
 
2013-04-23 05:03:45 PM
I would just quietly go along with it and support it, then after the bill passes sue his ass for copyright infringement.
 
2013-04-23 05:04:20 PM

WTFDYW: Come on sane GOP leaders grow some balls and tell the ultra righties to fark off and grow up in to the 21st century.

/either that or just switch parties.


Who are these sane leaders? The closest to sanity that they had were Gary Johnson and Huntsman, neither of whom has the GOP turned to in any form of soul searching. The leaders of the party are not sane and the sane are not allowed within 20 miles of Having any authority.
 
2013-04-23 05:06:34 PM

HeartBurnKid: So, what's the opposite of this?


"If you can't get anything accomplished, make sure the other side gets the blame. You don't have to seem good. You just have to seem better than the other guy"
 
2013-04-23 05:06:51 PM
The freshman Democrat learned a very valuable lesson today.

As a young person attempting to play ball with the older generations I've had TONS of my ideas, topics and paperwork ripped off by those beside or above me. There is nothing "against the rules" about it, and you look childish complaining. Here is what I now do (or something similar) in work that I feel important.

Test Example:
Here is some work. Round the bend we go. Heck of an awesome project I'm working on. Wish I had some better reports to work on. Alas, I don't always know what to do. Some of us can't figure this stuff out. Hopefully, no one noticed. Everyone should notice though. Run, run Rudolph. Elephant banana pants.

Translates to:
H-R-H   W-A-S   H-E-R-E

Then later, if you were ripped off, you laugh and point it out to the most gossip-flowing coworkers in the office. It has worked every time.

Question: When people plagiarize, why do they not reword things?
Answer: Because if they weren't lazy they'd have done their own work.
 
2013-04-23 05:11:54 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: Here is some work. Round the bend we go. Heck of an awesome project I'm working on. Wish I had some better reports to work on. Alas, I don't always know what to do. Some of us can't figure this stuff out. Hopefully, no one noticed. Everyone should notice though. Run, run Rudolph. Elephant banana pants.


Ha! I just use Google translate to put it in Spanish, and then back to English!

Here is a little work. Around the bend we go. Heck of a project I'm working awesome. I wish I had some better reporting to work. Unfortunately, not always know what to do. Some of us can not understand this place. Hopefully, nobody noticed. Everyone should note though. Run, run Rudolph. Banana Pants elephant.
 
2013-04-23 05:12:06 PM

seventypercent: Yes but if Democrat bills are allowed to pass as Democrat bills then the whole country will be taken over by lesbian bassoonists and we will all be forced at gunpoint to read the book "Ulysses" by James Franco


A groundbreaking stream-of-consciousness exploration of the bond between a man and his dakimakura.
 
2013-04-23 05:13:10 PM
I ain't even mad. That's amazing.
 
2013-04-23 05:13:27 PM
As it turns out, this practice is not particularly uncommon and happens in both directions.

Meh. It's sleezy, but that's what our government is. I don't give a shiat if my rep or senator sponsored or co-sponsored legislation, I only care if they supported or opposed it.
 
2013-04-23 05:15:18 PM
yay, politics is a sporting event!

/le sigh
 
2013-04-23 05:24:37 PM

skullkrusher: yay, politics is a sporting event!

/le sigh


If you approach it any other way you are just setting yourself up for unnecessary pain, stress and heartbreak.
 
2013-04-23 05:26:56 PM

skullkrusher: yay, politics is a sporting event!

/le sigh


Welcome to the politics tab?
 
2013-04-23 05:27:24 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Being in the legislature is all about destroying the country these days.



Don't forget the large kickbacks and immunity from insider trading.
 
2013-04-23 05:29:11 PM

Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

It's absolutely insane childishness from a governing body.


Please provide an example.
 
2013-04-23 05:36:12 PM

Craptastic: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

It's absolutely insane childishness from a governing body.

Please provide an example.


you could read the whole article for starters
 
2013-04-23 05:36:54 PM

Saiga410: skullkrusher: yay, politics is a sporting event!

/le sigh

Welcome to the politics tab?


I was referring to the players in this case, not the fans
 
2013-04-23 05:38:27 PM

HeartBurnKid: [www.posterenvy.com image 600x405]

So, what's the opposite of this?


I guess a picture of Ronald Reagan saying "Fark you, I got mine, and I did it all myself with no help whatsoever (Even though I totally had help but whatever.)."

Basically, it's what the Republican party has devolved into. Mouthbreathers to the last.
 
2013-04-23 05:45:28 PM
I stopped reading when I got to the mentioning of the United States Marine Corporation.

Everyone knows it's Marine Core.
 
2013-04-23 05:46:43 PM
Its like when Obama took congressional response to clintons health reform, polished that turd, and passed it off as his own.

/I Keed
 
2013-04-23 05:50:59 PM

Ned Stark: skullkrusher: yay, politics is a sporting event!

/le sigh

If you approach it any other way you are just setting yourself up for unnecessary pain, stress and heartbreak.


His point is that it shouldn't be.  In a sane pragmatic society our elected representatives would, you know, represent us.  It's going to take more than this, though, for us to remember that one of the things that makes our society work is the ability to effect bloodless change from the ground up.  Top down change (as all the Facebook meme posters continually forget) is simply not going to happen.  They believe that by re-electing them we've given them our blessing to continue down the path.

/Still think the way to solve it is to make every elected official's salary the median of their constituency...
 
2013-04-23 05:54:31 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: Question: When people plagiarize, why do they not reword things?
Answer:


It's called a citation.
 
2013-04-23 05:56:24 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: When people plagiarize, why do they not reword things?


No, the real question is why people copy the work of others without paraphrasing?
 
2013-04-23 06:02:10 PM
Anyone who's ever had a job is familiar with the concept of the dumbass coworker who tries to take credit for everyone else's work and good ideas. I think we've all been there.
 
2013-04-23 06:06:11 PM
But it's usually not as blatant as a co-worker checking out entire components, changing just the author field and checking them back in.

/Had that happen to me once.
/Once.
 
2013-04-23 06:50:03 PM
Ultimately, this isn't an issue for getting butthurt or "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE"d over - this is an issue for pointing and laughing.  I'm unlikely to ever be elected to public office (largely because I'm just not personable enough), but my response as the D legislator in question would be:

"I was disappointed, of course, when H.whatever went down to defeat, but such is the life of a legislator, particularly in the minority party.  Imagine my surprise, then, when I was informed that the exact same bill, word for word, would submitted by one of my esteemed colleagues on the other side of the aisle.  Now this is legislation, where at the end of the day the only thing that matters is what is passed and what is not, so I will be quite pleased to vote for the Honorable Mr. Stamas' bill, and I will say no more on the matter - save that I am gratified that my colleague liked my idea so much that he chose to make it his own."
 
2013-04-23 07:03:20 PM
www.eclectablog.com
Bedwetter
 
2013-04-23 07:06:09 PM

DeltaPunch: I would just quietly go along with it and support it, then after the bill passes sue his ass for copyright infringement.


I don't think legislation works that way.
 
2013-04-23 07:22:16 PM

seventypercent: Yes but if Democrat bills are allowed to pass as Democrat bills then the whole country will be taken over by lesbian bassoonists and we will all be forced at gunpoint to read the book "Ulysses" by James Franco


Originally read that as "lesbian balloonists."
 
2013-04-23 07:22:34 PM

skullkrusher: Craptastic: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

It's absolutely insane childishness from a governing body.

Please provide an example.

you could read the whole article for starters


FTFA:  On February 5th, Democrat Bert Johnson introduced a Senate version that is literally the exact same bill,

Well, I guess both sides are the same, eh?
 
2013-04-23 07:40:49 PM
Why pull the stunt? If it worked he'd take credit anyway even in the event he opposed it
 
2013-04-23 07:52:59 PM
UPDATE: As it turns out, this practice is not particularly uncommon and happens in both directions. Why? So that legislators can go to their constituents and say, "See?! I was all over this issue for you guys." The rub is that the party in power calls the shots and decides which version of the legislation gets passed and, at the moment, that's the Republicans across the board.


/judging from the comments above, it seems most people would rather get their ideological points in than finish reading the article.
 
2013-04-23 08:24:48 PM

Descartes: UPDATE: As it turns out, this practice is not particularly uncommon and happens in both directions. Why? So that legislators can go to their constituents and say, "See?! I was all over this issue for you guys." The rub is that the party in power calls the shots and decides which version of the legislation gets passed and, at the moment, that's the Republicans across the board.


/judging from the comments above, it seems most people would rather get their ideological points in than finish reading the article.


That, and they ignore the fact that two individuals offering the same bills to different legislative bodies is different than the majority of a legislative body killing one bill, and then reintroducing the exact same bill, word for word.
 
2013-04-23 08:25:13 PM

Diogenes: [www.leragecomics.com image 403x263]


Holy f/ck.  That is the coolest thing since ever.  I'm totally gonna steal that.
 
2013-04-23 08:39:14 PM

Fart_Machine: DeltaPunch: I would just quietly go along with it and support it, then after the bill passes sue his ass for copyright infringement.

I don't think legislation works that way.


Works created by the United States government is expressly excluded from copyright protection, aand a big part of the reason is to assure that statutes remain in the public domain . I would argue that a work which is intended to become a statute one day would have to fall under the same rule.
 
2013-04-23 09:29:52 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Don't hate the player, hate the game.


I'd prefer to hate asshole republicans
 
2013-04-23 09:36:57 PM

Mithiwithi: Ultimately, this isn't an issue for getting butthurt or "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE"d over - this is an issue for pointing and laughing.  I'm unlikely to ever be elected to public office (largely because I'm just not personable enough), but my response as the D legislator in question would be:

"I was disappointed, of course, when H.whatever went down to defeat, but such is the life of a legislator, particularly in the minority party.  Imagine my surprise, then, when I was informed that the exact same bill, word for word, would submitted by one of my esteemed colleagues on the other side of the aisle.  Now this is legislation, where at the end of the day the only thing that matters is what is passed and what is not, so I will be quite pleased to vote for the Honorable Mr. Stamas' bill, and I will say no more on the matter - save that I am gratified that my colleague liked my idea so much that he chose to make it his own."




Appeaser!
 
2013-04-23 10:05:29 PM
Once again, fark libs actually believe this shiat is only done by republicans. Oh, whats that? An update to the article. I assume the usuals will be in here to berate the democrat party for their cheeky shenanigans as well?
 
2013-04-23 10:13:52 PM

Craptastic: skullkrusher: Craptastic: Strolpol: It's worth noting in the article that some Democrats are guilty of the same thing.

It's absolutely insane childishness from a governing body.

Please provide an example.

you could read the whole article for starters

FTFA:  On February 5th, Democrat Bert Johnson introduced a Senate version that is literally the exact same bill,

Well, I guess both sides are the same, eh?


yeah, from the sounds of this this is sadly relatively common on both sides and not even particular to the state in question.
 
2013-04-23 10:16:29 PM
 

BSABSVR: WTFDYW: Come on sane GOP leaders grow some balls and tell the ultra righties to fark off and grow up in to the 21st century.

/either that or just switch parties.

Who are these sane leaders? The closest to sanity that they had were Gary Johnson and Huntsman, neither of whom has the GOP turned to in any form of soul searching. The leaders of the party are not sane and the sane are not allowed within 20 miles of Having any authority.


This.  The remaining people who aren't totally retarded aren't all that sane, they are just smart enough to see when the full retards are crossing the line.
 
2013-04-23 10:30:37 PM
could end up with this

Here is some work. Round the bend we go. Heck of an awesome project I'm working on. Somtimes I wish I had some better reports to work on. Unless I get lucky, I don't always know what to do. Xenophopic people can't figure this stuff out. Don't know why no one noticed. I think everyone should notice though. Can't just walk, run Rudolph. Kamikaze banana pants.
 
2013-04-23 10:59:52 PM

heypete: Just do something like this with bills that might get "stolen":


Did I Just Get RickRolled In Thread?
 
2013-04-23 11:17:00 PM
You've now reached the apotheosis of a failed state.
 
2013-04-23 11:42:11 PM
Protip:

State legislators often file many versions of the same thing for parliamentary reasons.  Mainly so they have a clean backup in case one of the other ones gets loaded down with unwanted amendments.  Not saying that's what happened here, but just to point out that sometimes there's more going on than meets the eye.
 
2013-04-23 11:47:29 PM

Phil Moskowitz: You've now reached the apotheosis of a failed state.


Indeed.

We should model our system of government upon that of Canada, which is ruled by a divine-right hereditary monarch figurehead lording over a hereditary caste system in which power currently resides (and I totally did not see this coming) in the hands of corporatist conservative douchestains.

Please, though, do continue your disdainful lecture, bringing the promise of fullfillment in its most primitive form.
 
2013-04-23 11:51:51 PM

HeartBurnKid: [www.posterenvy.com image 600x405]

"it's amazing what you can accomplish if you dont care who gets the credit - Harry Truman"

So, what's the opposite of this?


SOCIALISM!! BURN HIM
 
2013-04-24 12:20:59 AM
...and call it Romneycare.
 
2013-04-24 01:12:48 AM

BuckTurgidson: Phil Moskowitz: You've now reached the apotheosis of a failed state.

Indeed.

We should model our system of government upon that of Canada, which is ruled by a divine-right hereditary monarch figurehead lording over a hereditary caste system in which power currently resides (and I totally did not see this coming) in the hands of corporatist conservative douchestains.

Please, though, do continue your disdainful lecture, bringing the promise of fullfillment in its most primitive form.


you are one touchy mother-farker. wow.
 
2013-04-24 01:20:46 AM

Msphere: BuckTurgidson: Phil Moskowitz: You've now reached the apotheosis of a failed state.

Indeed.

We should model our system of government upon that of Canada, which is ruled by a divine-right hereditary monarch figurehead lording over a hereditary caste system in which power currently resides (and I totally did not see this coming) in the hands of corporatist conservative douchestains.

Please, though, do continue your disdainful lecture, bringing the promise of fullfillment in its most primitive form.

you are one touchy mother-farker. wow.


Phil's a pill.

What's your offer?
 
2013-04-24 01:39:43 AM

doglover: HellRaisingHoosier: Question: When people plagiarize, why do they not reword things?
Answer:

It's called a citation.


Was it George Bernard Shaw who said "Stealing from one author is plagiarism, stealing from many is research"?
 
2013-04-24 05:31:05 AM
Like I said before, it isn't about effective governing or what's in the best interests of the constituents.  With today's Republicans it is about "sticking it to the libs".  Anything else is secondary.
 
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