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(BBC)   Just in case you were living in Boston and considering buying a $40k bomb detector "just in case", don't buy one from this guy   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 100
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2013-04-23 09:54:36 AM
I remember they did an expose on those things on 60 minutes back in the 1980s. There truly is a sucker born every minute.
 
2013-04-23 10:25:12 AM
McCormick claimed that the detectors could bypass "all forms of concealment" and would detect explosives, drugs, ivory and people.

Also rhesus monkeys, ham radios, and butterscotch pudding.
 
2013-04-23 10:52:13 AM
The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.
 
2013-04-23 10:54:44 AM

Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.


Probably be good to drop-off the idiots who bought it too.  I don't normally wear a tin-foil hat but tell me what the first thing you would do if I told you this thing could detect people, ivory, bombs and drugs?  I'd test it.  The people who ended up buying it are either criminally stupid, or getting kick backs.

news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2013-04-23 11:09:31 AM
He claimed they would work under water and from the air, and would track an object up to one kilometre below the ground.

Devices came with cards which were "programmed" to detect a wide array of substances from ivory to $100 bills.



How these claims didn't set off anyone's bullshiat detector I don't know.  Unless they bought their bullshiat detectors from the same guy.
 
2013-04-23 11:10:37 AM

Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.


Why do you hate capitalism?
 
2013-04-23 11:12:36 AM
And this is why I have my lightning detector. What are the odds of it striking twice?
 
2013-04-23 11:15:26 AM

Hack Patooey: He claimed they would work under water and from the air, and would track an object up to one kilometre below the ground.

Devices came with cards which were "programmed" to detect a wide array of substances from ivory to $100 bills.


How these claims didn't set off anyone's bullshiat detector I don't know.  Unless they bought their bullshiat detectors from the same guy.


People apparently still send money to Nigeria, too.
 
2013-04-23 11:15:43 AM
100$
www.toyhalloffame.org
 
2013-04-23 11:16:04 AM

Vodka Zombie: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Why do you hate capitalism?


Exactly.
Given Apos logic, we should inject the heads of Big Pharma with HIV.
Same exact scenario.
 
2013-04-23 11:16:11 AM

Hack Patooey: He claimed they would work under water and from the air, and would track an object up to one kilometre below the ground.

Devices came with cards which were "programmed" to detect a wide array of substances from ivory to $100 bills.


How these claims didn't set off anyone's bullshiat detector I don't know.  Unless they bought their bullshiat detectors from the same guy.



He's selling "electronics" to people who don't even have indoor plumbing.  He could tell them it had a money printing machine and a death ray built in and they'd believe it.
 
2013-04-23 11:18:13 AM
Other substances could be detected if put in a jar with a sticker which would absorb its "vapours" and then stuck onto a card which would be read by the machine.

Hilarious.
 
2013-04-23 11:19:34 AM

tuna fingers: Vodka Zombie: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Why do you hate capitalism?

Exactly.
Given Apos logic, we should inject the heads of Big Pharma with HIV.
Same exact scenario.


Go on....
 
2013-04-23 11:20:27 AM
Now can we go after the people who sold the TSA the 'bomb sniffers' that didn't work and are sitting in a warehouse somewhere?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/05/09/tsa-puts-millions-of- do llars-of-equipment-in-storage
 
2013-04-23 11:21:02 AM

tuna fingers: Vodka Zombie: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Why do you hate capitalism?

Exactly.
Given Apos logic, we should inject the heads of Big Pharma with HIV.
Same exact scenario.


Well, if Big Pharma markets a drug that destroys HIV and the drug was actually just saline, sure.
 
2013-04-23 11:23:34 AM
Hey, why is this thing pointing at my DVD Director's Cut of John Carter ?
 
2013-04-23 11:24:11 AM
But he must be an awesome person  - he has millions of dollars.

Don't go telling me that money doesn't mean someone is a great role model
 
2013-04-23 11:24:50 AM
Good lord, I'm surprised the TSA doesn't have a room of these.
 
2013-04-23 11:25:45 AM
I'm going to invent a "fake bomb detector detector". I already have the prototype, so don't any of you unsavory claim-jumpin' farks get any big ideas.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:00 AM

Feral_and_Preposterous: I'm going to invent a "fake bomb detector detector". I already have the prototype, so don't any of you unsavory claim-jumpin' farks get any big ideas.


I'm gonna one up you and get a patent for a fake bomb detector. That way, I can sidestep the liability and actual work and get right to the suing you part.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:16 AM
In other news, the price of anti-tiger rocks plummet.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:18 AM

tuna fingers: Given Apos logic, we should inject the heads of Big Pharma with HIV.


I bet they would spend every farking penny finding a farking cure then, and not eating shrimp cocktail and drinking champaign and lighting cubans with c notes.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:49 AM
Dowsing rods.

Know them when you see them. Anything that swivels like that is either a movie prop or snake oil.

Seriously, how did this get by anyone? Dowsing rods.

I'm still trying to get over how anyone was fooled by this quackery. Guy probably thought he hit the jackpot.

Farking dowsing rods!

This is why we need more basic science education, so quacks like this don't get a free pass to money. Teach the scientific method, teach reasoning, learn to identify this kind of shiat before it costs lives.

At least have some kind of scientific oversight on purchases like this so that a real, trained scientist can point out the snake oil salesman. Seriously, hiring a scientist for 10 minutes to identify the problem would have cost less than the 40m they spent on this piece of filth.
 
2013-04-23 11:31:28 AM
So he ripped of Georgia and Iraq? Who gives a fark? Think they'd do anything if one of their people was ripping off people in England or the US?
 
2013-04-23 11:32:08 AM

mephox: Seriously, hiring a scientist for 10 minutes to identify the problem would have cost less than the 40m they spent on this piece of filth.


Or a magician.

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2013-04-23 11:32:52 AM

fruitbatnt: But he must be an awesome person  - he has millions of dollars.

Don't go telling me that money doesn't mean someone is a great role model


i2.ytimg.com

"I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message."
 
2013-04-23 11:33:38 AM
So what you're saying is my Volcano Insurance is probably no good, either?
 
2013-04-23 11:34:12 AM

mephox: Dowsing rods.

Know them when you see them. Anything that swivels like that is either a movie prop or snake oil.

Seriously, how did this get by anyone? Dowsing rods.

I'm still trying to get over how anyone was fooled by this quackery. Guy probably thought he hit the jackpot.

Farking dowsing rods!

This is why we need more basic science education, so quacks like this don't get a free pass to money. Teach the scientific method, teach reasoning, learn to identify this kind of shiat before it costs lives.

At least have some kind of scientific oversight on purchases like this so that a real, trained scientist can point out the snake oil salesman. Seriously, hiring a scientist for 10 minutes to identify the problem would have cost less than the 40m they spent on this piece of filth.


Except that dowsing rods actually work (to find water).
 
2013-04-23 11:39:48 AM

tuna fingers: mephox: Dowsing rods.

Know them when you see them. Anything that swivels like that is either a movie prop or snake oil.

Seriously, how did this get by anyone? Dowsing rods.

I'm still trying to get over how anyone was fooled by this quackery. Guy probably thought he hit the jackpot.

Farking dowsing rods!

This is why we need more basic science education, so quacks like this don't get a free pass to money. Teach the scientific method, teach reasoning, learn to identify this kind of shiat before it costs lives.

At least have some kind of scientific oversight on purchases like this so that a real, trained scientist can point out the snake oil salesman. Seriously, hiring a scientist for 10 minutes to identify the problem would have cost less than the 40m they spent on this piece of filth.


Except that dowsing rods actually work (to find water).

www.stupidfunnycommercials.com

Wait, wut?
 
2013-04-23 11:43:17 AM
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2013-04-23 11:43:22 AM

mephox: At least have some kind of scientific oversight on purchases like this so that a real, trained scientist can point out the snake oil salesman. Seriously, hiring a scientist for 10 minutes to identify the problem would have cost less than the 40m they spent on this piece of filth.


The US Navy tested a similar scam product, Sniffex, and determined that it didn't work.

Then, they spend a farkload on them anyway.

I wonder if that "inventor" was ever called to account in the way McCormick might be?
 
2013-04-23 11:43:53 AM
tuna fingers:

Except that dowsing rods actually work (to find water).

Absolutely. Assuming you already know the water is there. Unfortunately in every single double-blind test ever conducted they do exactly as well as chance at finding water.
 
2013-04-23 11:44:05 AM
Why is he in trouble? Isn't this how capitalism is supposed to work? That's what the Tea Party keeps telling me, anyway.
 
2013-04-23 11:44:53 AM
This man is a go getter and a job creator, he should be regarded and applauded with great esteem.  The British are an enemy of capitalism, they have no inkling of the word freedom.  This man is a hero for god's sake!  Shame on the British, SHAME!
 
2013-04-23 11:48:17 AM
Other substances could be detected - it was claimed - if put in a jar with a sticker which would absorb its "vapours" and which was then stuck on to a card which would be read by the machine.

TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!
 
2013-04-23 11:48:58 AM
"When people passed through checkpoints using these devices, they thought they would be safe, but they are useless. The man who sold them has no conscience. He is morally bankrupt. How could he sell them just for money and destroy other people's lives?"

We've clearly failed to teach these people about capitalism.
 
2013-04-23 11:53:24 AM

tuna fingers: Vodka Zombie: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Why do you hate capitalism?

Exactly.
Given Apos logic, we should inject the heads of Big Pharma with HIV.
Same exact scenario.


Don't tell me that wouldn't get us three cures (at least one gluten free) within a week.
 
2013-04-23 11:56:08 AM

HotWingConspiracy: "When people passed through checkpoints using these devices, they thought they would be safe, but they are useless. The man who sold them has no conscience. He is morally bankrupt. How could he sell them just for money and destroy other people's lives?"

We've clearly failed to teach these people about capitalism.


Actually that was one of the lessons.
 
2013-04-23 11:58:20 AM

Mentalpatient87: tuna fingers: Vodka Zombie: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Why do you hate capitalism?

Exactly.
Given Apos logic, we should inject the heads of Big Pharma with HIV.
Same exact scenario.

Don't tell me that wouldn't get us three cures (at least one gluten free) within a week.



That wouldn't get three cures within a week.
 
2013-04-23 11:59:31 AM
I think I see the problem.

Who would buy this thing? Retards.

Now, what do we know about retards? They love stickers.

Look at what comes along with the device. Free stickers.

news.bbcimg.co.uk

YAAAAY!!! Stickers!
 
2013-04-23 11:59:48 AM

Sybarite: McCormick claimed that the detectors could bypass "all forms of concealment" and would detect explosives, drugs, ivory and people.

Also rhesus monkeys, ham radios, and butterscotch pudding.


What no special attachment for detecting gold?

I think Ill make these and add some lights to make them more sciencey
 
2013-04-23 11:59:52 AM

lennavan: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Probably be good to drop-off the idiots who bought it too.  I don't normally wear a tin-foil hat but tell me what the first thing you would do if I told you this thing could detect people, ivory, bombs and drugs?  I'd test it.  The people who ended up buying it are either criminally stupid, or getting kick backs.

[news.bbcimg.co.uk image 281x160]


This. Finds things 1km underground? No. No one is this stupid.
 
2013-04-23 12:00:41 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Other substances could be detected - it was claimed - if put in a jar with a sticker which would absorb its "vapours" and which was then stuck on to a card which would be read by the machine.

TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!


I think you could make technology do that pretty easily. In fact I'd be willing to bet someone has already done something similar for some applications. I seem to remember something on Discovery Channel a couple of years back about a mechanical sniffer that did basically something like that. (maybe not with a "sticker" but some sort of wipe.)
 
2013-04-23 12:09:47 PM

TheGreatGazoo: Now can we go after the people who sold the TSA the 'bomb sniffers' that didn't work and are sitting in a warehouse somewhere?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/05/09/tsa-puts-millions-of- do llars-of-equipment-in-storage


Ha - this cracked me up: In order to get a discount on the machines, TSA admits they bought more machines then they needed with the expectation that eventually its supply would meet demand.

I mean I guess it is very American to shop at Costco and let half of what you buy spoil because you can't use it in time.
 
2013-04-23 12:12:09 PM

FARK rebel soldier: lennavan: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Probably be good to drop-off the idiots who bought it too.  I don't normally wear a tin-foil hat but tell me what the first thing you would do if I told you this thing could detect people, ivory, bombs and drugs?  I'd test it.  The people who ended up buying it are either criminally stupid, or getting kick backs.

[news.bbcimg.co.uk image 281x160]

This. Finds things 1km underground? No. No one is this stupid.


Wanna bet?

Tom Clancy incorporated a similar device in his novel "Rainbow Six" except it was supposed to detect human heartbeats through walls and the like.

Prior to that, I'd buy his books as soon they came out in hardcover.  After reading that one, and having my brain *SCREAM* every time that device was mentioned, I waited until they were available as cheap used paperbacks.
 
2013-04-23 12:15:00 PM
You need a contract to do that, you silly businessman.
The only thing he's guilty of is not bribing bidding in the proper channels.
 
2013-04-23 12:16:47 PM
dittybopper:
Tom Clancy incorporated a similar device in his novel "Rainbow Six" except it was supposed to detect human heartbeats through walls and the like.

Prior to that, I'd buy his books as soon they came out in hardcover.  After reading that one, and having my brain *SCREAM* every time that device was mentioned, I waited until they were available as cheap used paperbacks.


it didn't just ruin the books

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-23 12:17:22 PM

dittybopper: FARK rebel soldier: lennavan: Apos: The most fitting punishment for this callous POS is a drop-off in an IED-laden area with his wares.

Probably be good to drop-off the idiots who bought it too.  I don't normally wear a tin-foil hat but tell me what the first thing you would do if I told you this thing could detect people, ivory, bombs and drugs?  I'd test it.  The people who ended up buying it are either criminally stupid, or getting kick backs.

[news.bbcimg.co.uk image 281x160]

This. Finds things 1km underground? No. No one is this stupid.

Wanna bet?

Tom Clancy incorporated a similar device in his novel "Rainbow Six" except it was supposed to detect human heartbeats through walls and the like.

Prior to that, I'd buy his books as soon they came out in hardcover.  After reading that one, and having my brain *SCREAM* every time that device was mentioned, I waited until they were available as cheap used paperbacks.


I gave up on him after the end of "Debt of Honor".  It wasn't the idea of using a 747 to attack Washington, it was having it happen in such a way that CIA analyst Jack Ryan suddenly become Supreme Dictator of the USA.
 
2013-04-23 12:17:38 PM
I'm working on a bomb detector as well. The way it works is first you find the bomb, then you put the sticker on it. Now, when it moves, or you come across it again, the detector beeps because it's near the bomb, or the sticker on the bomb.  Warning label will suggest only putting the stickers on bombs, not people,and that being near a bomb can be dangerous.

Stickers not guaranteed to work after bomb blows up.
 
2013-04-23 12:20:07 PM
blogs-images.forbes.com

Screen grab of marketing video.
 
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