DeaH: Cythraul: Or it could be to prevent employers from taking advantage of undocumented workers (illegal immigrants). You know, making sure they have a recourse in case their employers decide to do things like, not pay them, or pay them less than what was agreed upon.Yep, and the fact that this will also force employers to hire from a legal job market means that wages will stabilize. No more paying under market value because your workforce is too scared to do anything about it. Ironically, the average lower-middle class white person stands to benefit from this legislation, but they are against it because they don't want Mexicans to take their jobs. They don't seem to understand that Mexicans are taking their jobs because Mexicans will take a much lower wage because of their illegal status. Give them legal status, and employers won't be able to play that game.
Karac: JerseyTim: Politico attempting to use statistics is like Taco Bell attempting to cook French food.- Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) April 23, 2013[philadelphia.foobooz.com image 624x272]You mean it only works in a future where there's no toilet paper and you don't get to have sex with Sandra Bullock?
JerseyTim: Karac: JerseyTim: Politico attempting to use statistics is like Taco Bell attempting to cook French food.- Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) April 23, 2013[philadelphia.foobooz.com image 624x272]You mean it only works in a future where there's no toilet paper and you don't get to have sex with Sandra Bullock?Republicans will never learn how to use the three shells.
LazarusLong42: Shostie: Rev.K: I love how, to conservatives, voter fraud isn't manipulating poll machines or casting multiple votes, it's having a large group of people vote for the other party.It's sort of like the difference in strategy between the Protoss and the Zerg.Or something.I'm coming out of a cold, I'm not sure if that analogy works.So the Republicans are zerglings, and Democrats are... photon cannons? Colossi?
plewis: The only thing keeping Latinos, who are conservative by nature, in the democratic coalition is the avalanche of insulting GOP Derp. So keep it up, asshats!
Shostie: The Republicans are pylons
Shostie: Like I said, I'm not sure if that analogy works.
slayer199: Epoch_Zero: watYou know, the Christian-loving, anti-gay, anti-abortion stuff. I don't agree with them, but a majority of latins are Christian and DO agree with those values.If the GOP hadn't gone off the deep end on immigration, they'd have a lot of the latin vote. Because the GOP are morons, they've alienated an entire segment of the voting population because of their anti-immigration stance.We have some 10-20 million illegal immigrants in this country that are working and living among us...so we definitely need immigration reform...NOT self-deportation.
Serious Black: No, they don't.The poll also found that more Hispanics, Catholic or otherwise, support same-sex marriage than any other demographic. Sixty-three percent of self-identified Hispanics are in favor of gay marriage, compared to just 32 percent of blacks and 48 percent of whites.Exit poll results found that about two-thirds of Hispanics (66%) said that abortion should be legal while 28% disagreed. Among all voters, a somewhat smaller majority (59%) would allow legal abortions while 37% were opposed.A strong majority of Latino voters - Democrats, Republicans and independents - supports stiffer gun control laws, including more vigorous background checks and creation of a national database of gun owners, according to a new survey of that increasingly important slice of the electorate.
ReverendJasen: If that's the Democrat strategy, it's a long-term failure.Study it out...We bring in 30 million Latin peoples, who start voting Democrat.Out-vote GOP in so many districts they're virtually a 3rd party status.Conservative Latins don't really agree with Democrat politics, start their own party, La Conservativa.Back to square one.
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Doing the right thing and getting some votes out of it. Truly politics at its worst.
DamnYankees: Yeah, liberals definitely only want it for the votes. The fact that its the right think to do is 100% irrelevant.
SouthParkCon: [www.gapingvoid.com image 850x526]Wow, I haven't checked the Politics tab in a while but the Fark progressive Brigade is still in full swing. Keep farkin' that echo chamber my Fellow Travelers!/Flame On!
enemy of the state: That's pretty much the bottom line.Seal the border, cut down on H1Bs.
Lando Lincoln: We don't really need the extra votes to whip Republicans. Maybe you guys didn't notice that little tidbit yet.
enemy of the state: I'm no particular pal of the republitard party as it stands now, but I have to say I don't think this country has benefiting at all from the influx of millions of uneducated immigrants. It's great for the fast food and landscaping industry, but on the occasions I've had to take my kids to the ER, I was the only person speaking English in the entire crowd. I was also the only one who paid, $500 for a three minute checkup and a prescription for antibiotics for an ear infection. Which my health insurance didn't cover. I realize that hospitals have to make money somehow but that did seem to be a bit of a gouge.What I'm saying is that vast numbers of immigrants are like Walmart: society pays, in the end, even though corporations generally benefit from the cheap labor.Speaking as an Hispanic, I honestly don't think the culture mixes well with what we consider "American". I carry alot of machismo/virgin or puta baggage with me and it's not healthy. Having said that, of course there are many positive aspects to Latin culture, which also are not really compatible with mainstream America, which is too bad.I suppose I sound like a bigot, even though I'm hispanic. Perhaps I am. All the latino immigrants (mostly illegals) that I know work like bastards and are generally good people, although there are alot of machismo assholes. However, that doesn't erase the fact that they tend to depress wages for American working stiffs and arent' a burden on the public sector (hospitals, schools), which is not their fault, they can't afford it. Nor is education a big priority, which hurts them more than anyone else, but is still a bad thing for society. Speaking generally.That's pretty much the bottom line.Seal the border, cut down on H1Bs.
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