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(Politicker)   Who would have thought that the man who banned large cups of soda would have a knee jerk reaction to the Boston bombers and want to re-interpret the Constitution?   (politicker.com) divider line 176
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2013-04-23 09:49:53 AM
"Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither." Ben Franklin
 
2013-04-23 09:49:56 AM
"Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms."

Yeah Bloomberg. People like YOU.
 
2013-04-23 09:50:28 AM
How about no? Does no work for you?
 
2013-04-23 09:50:30 AM
Lemme guess...

"something, something...9/11. Something, 9/11, something something."
 
2013-04-23 09:51:19 AM

I'm an Egyptian!: How about no? Does no work for you?


Hasn't worked for him in the past, though I do so enjoy seeing his massive poutrage when the courts smack him down.
 
2013-04-23 09:52:32 AM
You know that soda ban never got enacted right?
 
2013-04-23 09:53:38 AM
You're just going to have to give up some of your freedoms to be free.
 
2013-04-23 09:54:36 AM
It's for the good of everyone. What, you want bad things?
 
2013-04-23 09:54:58 AM
The constitution of America not up for interpretivism? Since when? Isn't that why Gitmo exists, because the American constitution can just be cherrypicked anyold way/how depending on whoever is in charge on that day?

Why does fark hate freedom?
 
2013-04-23 09:55:01 AM
It's good that the people will serve as a referendum on opinions like these come election time.

/Here's hoping the people call bs
 
2013-04-23 09:55:15 AM

Bravo Two: "Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither." Ben Franklin


THIS
 
2013-04-23 09:57:10 AM

BojanglesPaladin: "Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms."

Yeah Bloomberg. People like YOU.


I consider Michael Bloomberg a greater threat to my freedoms than a couple of random Chechens who decided to have a DIY jihad.

I consider Michael Bloomberg a greater threat to my freedoms than some random Taliban fighter off in Afghanistan fighting because his family needs to be fed and it was the only job he could find.

I consider Michael Bloomberg a greater threat to my freedoms than a ten thousand DPRK soldiers who would run out of food, fuel and ammo within a day if they tried to attack.
 
2013-04-23 09:57:19 AM
They hate us for our freedoms, so let's take a few away from you so they'll hate us less.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 09:57:38 AM
Dear Bloomie,
Go DIAF you self-important, stuffed-shirt, rich-biatch, pencil-necked elitist POS.
Thank you
 
2013-04-23 09:57:40 AM
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience."

-C.S. Lewis
 
2013-04-23 09:58:37 AM
You guys should know by now, freedom isn't free.


It costs a $1.05
 
2013-04-23 09:58:39 AM

uttertosh: Isn't that why Gitmo exists, because the American constitution can just be cherrypicked anyold way/how depending on whoever is in charge on that day?


No. That's why Gitmo exists.
 
2013-04-23 09:58:47 AM
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2013-04-23 10:00:10 AM
This guy has to give partisans fits.  He presides over the second-most segregated city in America and the one with the greatest income inequality, however that city is also the cultural capital for the America Left.  He's a successful businessman, but he also believes in heavy government regulation.  He's big government, but in both a fascist and leftist sort of way.

In any event, I'm glad he isn't my mayor.
 
2013-04-23 10:00:14 AM

Burr: "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience."

-C.S. Lewis


I like that. I like most of what C.S. Lewis wrote on matters of morality, but I hadn't run across this quote. Where is it from?
 
2013-04-23 10:00:36 AM
What a farkface.
 
2013-04-23 10:00:47 AM

Bravo Two: "Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither." Ben Franklin


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I don't get much time to spend on Earth. And it is so pleasant here, with a Starfleet officer on every corner. Paradise has never seemed so well armed.
 
2013-04-23 10:00:50 AM
* feebly raises hand * - I did.  Just the tip of the nutcase iceberg.  Hold on folks, it's gonna get weirder.
 
2013-04-23 10:01:39 AM
There is no safety, anywhere, ever.  Safety is an illusion we have since most bad things that can happen to us are statistically unlikely.  You are not safe, you cannot be made safe.  Deal with it, and go on with your life.
 
2013-04-23 10:02:08 AM

James!: You know that soda ban never got enacted right?


Sure it did.  Just like Mooshel Hussein's vindictive and destructive laws trying to allow access for force children to eat fewer processed foods broccoli.
 
2013-04-23 10:02:18 AM
Dang, I might have to keep this Mayor douchebag in mind when i start biatching about Parking/Traffic in Austin, lol!

I am quickly starting to feel bad for New Yorkers and grateful that I don't live there. No city is perfect, but damn...this Bloomberg dude has got to be stopped!
 
2013-04-23 10:02:47 AM

BojanglesPaladin: uttertosh: Isn't that why Gitmo exists, because the American constitution can just be cherrypicked anyold way/how depending on whoever is in charge on that day?

No. That's why Gitmo exists.


um... good...(?!?)
 
2013-04-23 10:03:04 AM

James!: You know that soda ban never got enacted right?


The courts stopped it, not because Bloomberg came to his senses.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:25 AM

Burr: "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience."

-C.S. Lewis


Stolen and quoted.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:32 AM

uttertosh: um... good...(?!?)


Yeah. typ[ing too fast. should be :

"No. That's NOT why Gitmo exists."
 
2013-04-23 10:04:30 AM
We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.
We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.
We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.
We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.
We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.

Someone in yesterday's "I h(e)a(r)t(e) NY" thread said NYPD doesn't believe in the Constitution/Bill of Rights/whatever, and I thought he was exaggerating. I see I was wrong.
 
2013-04-23 10:04:45 AM
Can you imagine what Patrick Henry, with cane in hand would physically do to this puffed up popinjay?
 
2013-04-23 10:04:49 AM

Oldiron_79: Bravo Two: "Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither." Ben Franklin

THIS


Neither is worth much without some of the other. Repeating that quote in lieu of discussing an issue on its merits is asinine.

I think Ben would agree, considering he wasn't an anarchist.
 
2013-04-23 10:07:07 AM
Yes, great idea, the government interpreting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to take away freedoms from the people and expand the powers of the government.  It is no surprise that a member of the government who is openly anti-Second Amendment would make the claim that reinterpreting the Constitution to take more away from the people is needed.

Any leader, city, state or federal who says such things should be removed from office at once.the founding fathers established a government for the people, not one to rule the people.
 
2013-04-23 10:07:18 AM

syberpud: James!: You know that soda ban never got enacted right?

The courts stopped it, not because Bloomberg came to his senses.


I'm aware.
 
2013-04-23 10:07:25 AM

Smackledorfer: Repeating that quote in lieu of discussing an issue on its merits is asinine.


Then please. discuss the issue at hand. Bloomberg says ""But we live in a complex word where you're going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change."

Agree or disagree, and why?
 
2013-04-23 10:08:13 AM
Why no one has punched this guy in the face yet is anyone's guess.
 
2013-04-23 10:08:21 AM

Smackledorfer: Oldiron_79: Bravo Two: "Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither." Ben Franklin

THIS

Neither is worth much without some of the other. Repeating that quote in lieu of discussing an issue on its merits is asinine.

I think Ben would agree, considering he wasn't an anarchist.


Are you saying that liberty equals anarchy?
 
2013-04-23 10:09:19 AM
The goverment exists to protect my freedoms, not my person nor my income.

This is the exact opposite of what you're supposed to be doing, Bloomy.
 
2013-04-23 10:10:45 AM
Lets go with no.

For nanny staters like bloomberg there is NOTHING SAFE ENOUGH and when proven that their current measures don't work they just want to go "SAFER" and turn the nerf ray up to 11.
 
2013-04-23 10:11:50 AM

jfivealive: You're just going to have to give up some of your freedoms to be free.


You know, this is pretty much what John Locke said.
 
2013-04-23 10:11:55 AM
You know what's scary is the thought that so many politicians think the exact same way as Nanny Bloomers. They're just usually savvy enough to keep it from the public.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:14 AM

BojanglesPaladin: Burr: "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience."

-C.S. Lewis

I like that. I like most of what C.S. Lewis wrote on matters of morality, but I hadn't run across this quote. Where is it from?


I don't know where exactly (I have heard it before).  I keep getting pointed to "God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics", but I haven't found proof.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:17 AM
The scary thing isn't that he thinks that way. The scary thing is that he will say these things out loud without realizing that he sounds like the greatest oppressor in the state and people will still vote him in the next elections.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:43 AM
I always knew he never stopped being republican.
 
2013-04-23 10:13:01 AM

Smackledorfer: Oldiron_79: Bravo Two: "Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither." Ben Franklin

THIS

Neither is worth much without some of the other. Repeating that quote in lieu of discussing an issue on its merits is asinine.

I think Ben would agree, considering he wasn't an anarchist.


Security is best done up to the point where it begins to infringe on the freedoms and rights of the individual. Period.

I don't accept that liberty must necessarily be infringed just so I can feel safe. All we've proven so far in doing so is that people still threaten our safety while we continue to have our rights eroded in the name of trying to stop them. It's proven not to work so far, so I'm loathe to continue down that path.
 
2013-04-23 10:13:51 AM
FTFA:We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.

He added: "So I propose we do it first, thus eliminating their motivation before they can do it themselves."
 
2013-04-23 10:14:03 AM
"Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms." Bloomberg said. "And I am one of them. Freedom is dangerous!"

/okay, I added the last part.
 
2013-04-23 10:15:40 AM
So, how is what Bloomberg said any different from what Lindsay graham said?
 
2013-04-23 10:16:06 AM

FLMountainMan: This guy has to give partisans fits.  He presides over the second-most segregated city in America and the one with the greatest income inequality, however that city is also the cultural capital for the America Left.  He's a successful businessman, but he also believes in heavy government regulation.  He's big government, but in both a fascist and leftist sort of way.


Hm, the right is usually ranting about Detroit or Chicago or San Francisco or Hollywood or even Boston, I never heard New York being the "capital of the left".
 
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