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(Newsweek)   The 2010 BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico was worse than we were led to believe. And we thought back then that it was horrible   (thedailybeast.com ) divider line
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2013-04-23 08:15:29 AM  
juanitajean.com
"And, again, BP, I am so sorry that we had to inconvenience you by learning of your cover-up."
 
2013-04-23 08:17:59 AM  
Those poor Job CreatorsTM...
 
2013-04-23 08:37:08 AM  
And in the words of Pig from Pearls Before Swine- F*&$ you British Petroleum.
 
2013-04-23 08:42:25 AM  
It was certainly worse than I believed. I only made about 40% on my BP stock, and I was expecting closer to 100%.
 
2013-04-23 09:07:26 AM  
in image form.

ic.pics.livejournal.com
 
2013-04-23 09:15:31 AM  
Thank God for Kevin Costner, then.
 
2013-04-23 09:16:28 AM  
And nothing will ever change.  And we will all accept it.

b.vimeocdn.com
 
2013-04-23 09:18:03 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: It was certainly worse than I believed. I only made about 40% on my BP stock, and I was expecting closer to 100%.


a troll's troll.
Hat's off to you, sir.
 
2013-04-23 09:18:55 AM  
But they assured us everything was clean and fine after dumping unidentified chemicals in to the water.
 
2013-04-23 09:21:57 AM  
But they said they were sorry!
 
2013-04-23 09:26:11 AM  
Everything is fine since they didn't lower the American Flag
 
2013-04-23 09:27:06 AM  
'Obvious' tag suffocated by crude and drowned.
 
2013-04-23 09:27:45 AM  
But the CEO has his life back now, right?
 
2013-04-23 09:27:54 AM  
Why has no one gone to jail for this?  Oh yea, because our elected officials are bought and sold like stocks.
 
2013-04-23 09:28:35 AM  
*Sigh*

Of course it was.
 
2013-04-23 09:28:54 AM  
It's The Daily Beast. I quit reading their slanted derp long ago. Newsweek used to be one of my favorite publications. Oh how far they have fallen.
 
2013-04-23 09:30:08 AM  

s1ugg0: Why has no one gone to jail for this?  Oh yea, because our elected officials are bought and sold like stocks.


Seems like there would be a proactive politician that could realize how many votes he could garner for actually taking down some white collar criminals.  Though, maybe they all realize that votes are silly and the real power resides where the money is.
 
2013-04-23 09:31:55 AM  

DubtodaIll: s1ugg0: Why has no one gone to jail for this?  Oh yea, because our elected officials are bought and sold like stocks.

Seems like there would be a proactive politician that could realize how many votes he could garner for actually taking down some white collar criminals.  Though, maybe they all realize that votes are silly and the real power resides where the money is.


If a white collar criminal is taken down in a forest, and no one has the money to let the public know who did it, did it make a sound?
 
2013-04-23 09:33:52 AM  
TFA: "You got two choices: you can either be relieved of your duties or you can deal with it."

It's almost like the labor market is an imperfect market where, despite safety regulations being on the books, the 'job' of organized labor isn't remotely as 'done' as people like to think.
 
2013-04-23 09:38:09 AM  
DubtodaIll: "maybe they all realize that votes are silly and the real power resides where the money is."

That.

You could hold government office for a long time if you make the people happy.
But you could hold office for a little while *and then be filthy farking rich* if you make the business community happy.
 
2013-04-23 09:40:03 AM  
I just got a follow up letter from the gov't asking me to submit to more health testing because I worked the spill from get to quit so I'm getting a kick outta all of this hubbub, bub.
 
2013-04-23 09:40:07 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: *Sigh*

Of course it was.


Oh, come on, man. Show us your "shocked" face.
 
2013-04-23 09:48:37 AM  
Rather than blaming companies and politicians, why don't you take a look in the mirror for the real reason why we're now drilling for oil in America's National Parks, nature preserves, and now the deep oceans.

You're still addicted to oil, now more than ever.
 
2013-04-23 09:49:51 AM  
t.qkme.me
If I did what BP did, I wouldn't be fined or in prison.  I would have been flayed alive and then crucified on the white house lawn.  Being rich is awesome it seems.
 
2013-04-23 09:54:06 AM  

BafflerMeal: And nothing will ever change.  And we will all accept it.

[b.vimeocdn.com image 640x360]


Not trying to troll or sound like a jerk, but how would we reject it? I mean we as the public. Big Oil has the means to outlast any sort of "hunger strike" that could be staged (especially one lasting one day -- remember all those silly chain emails?). I'm not sure even what the US government could do that would have a lasting effect, without flirting with opening itself up to arguments of "cruel and unusual punishment". I mean, in terms of the long game, we could increase our push away from fossil fuels, but so many other products and manufacturing processes draw on petroleum (plastic comes to mind) that it seems that would only make a dent.
 
2013-04-23 09:56:55 AM  
MrSteve007:You're still addicted to oil, now more than ever.

But I was only looking for clean natural gas. I can't help it if all this oil got in the way.
 
2013-04-23 09:57:07 AM  

orclover: If I did what BP did, I wouldn't be fined or in prison.  I would have been flayed alive and then crucified on the white house lawn.  Being rich is awesome it seems.


This bears repeating.
 
2013-04-23 09:57:32 AM  

MrSteve007: Rather than blaming companies and politicians, why don't you take a look in the mirror for the real reason why we're now drilling for oil in America's National Parks, nature preserves, and now the deep oceans.

You're still addicted to oil, now more than ever.


Says the jerk building taller buildings in downtown Seattle. Those didn't consume bucketloads of fossil fuels or encourage more people to drive in from Shoreline, no sir.
 
2013-04-23 09:57:43 AM  
Well, the good news is that the prices on Gulf shrimp have dropped dramatically!
 
2013-04-23 09:59:37 AM  
Wikileaks or Anon need to focus their energy on uncovering all written communication regarding Corexit and the safety risks.  I'm sure there is a trail.
 
2013-04-23 10:01:23 AM  

asynchron: BafflerMeal: And nothing will ever change.  And we will all accept it.

[b.vimeocdn.com image 640x360]

Not trying to troll or sound like a jerk, but how would we reject it? I mean we as the public. Big Oil has the means to outlast any sort of "hunger strike" that could be staged (especially one lasting one day -- remember all those silly chain emails?). I'm not sure even what the US government could do that would have a lasting effect, without flirting with opening itself up to arguments of "cruel and unusual punishment". I mean, in terms of the long game, we could increase our push away from fossil fuels, but so many other products and manufacturing processes draw on petroleum (plastic comes to mind) that it seems that would only make a dent.


I don't have a good answer.  Usually I don't even talk about these things anymore.  I've just accepted my frustration here.  We're fairly bought and sold worldwide by corporations and it's become a learned helplessness situation.

I imagine at some point it will all break down and get ugly, if history is any guide.

/Gulf Coast native
 
2013-04-23 10:02:51 AM  

MrSteve007: Rather than blaming companies and politicians, why don't you take a look in the mirror for the real reason why we're now drilling for oil in America's National Parks, nature preserves, and now the deep oceans.

You're still addicted to oil, now more than ever.


Because you moved the bar, like any forum troll. Here's why. Governments used to be about setting the rules and making a level playing field. BP has had a record of failing to live up to government regulations, even the few that were still being enforced. A massive fine, as well as some more criminal prosecutions, would have served notice to all oil companies operating in the Gulf and elsewhere that you need to comply and follow the rules.

Instead, right wing dipsh*ts and corrupt and criminal politicians wave their hands and say we're done here, no we can't possibly hold these guys accountable, think of the jobs.

I got news for you. The jobs are there regardless. The oil is there regardless.

What needs to change is BP's abysmal track record of safety and environmental compliance.

Question, do you take the same attitude when designing buildings for Seattle? Do you see government as part of the problem and the real issue is people's demand? Do you cut as many corners as you want and hope the government never finds out, and hope that any problems are discovered only after the building is built and years later, so you aren't held accountable?

What firm did you say you work for and post those pics of a few months back? I need to go take a tour of South Lake Union and Capitol Hill and see what if any you guys did. Might be worth filing some discovery on to see what corners you're cutting and what you think its our job as taxpayers and citizens to pay for later, long after you got paid.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:05 AM  

ringersol: TFA: "You got two choices: you can either be relieved of your duties or you can deal with it."

It's almost like the labor market is an imperfect market where, despite safety regulations being on the books, the 'job' of organized labor isn't remotely as 'done' as people like to think.


This was even worse.  Basically BP farks up the gulf, and the fisheries are shut down (rightfully so).  So the fishermen and all the folks that rely on fishing along the coast suddenly have their source of income denied. The boat and house payments and other bills are still due, regardless of water closures.  So BP graciously offers them jobs cleaning up, doesn't tell them about few possible hazards and says if you don't keep your mouth shut, you're not getting money from us.  We don't care if we crapped all over your house, you have the privilege of cleaning up our crap and we get to tell you to STFU, GBTW about it.  It sucks being the peon.

Or course the shrimpers and such are conflicted, because they undoubtably have many friends and family that work oil field, so they have historically been on the side of oil companies in the oil vs government and environmentalists debate.  I'd like to have a bit of schadenfreude in all this, but it simply farked up too much of an area for too many people.

It shiat like this that make me an alternative energy advocate.  If we reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, we can not only help stop global warming, but we also lessen the changes of another fiasco such as deepwater horizon and we more leverage to tell the farking dictatorships in the middle east to go fark themselves.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:14 AM  
To respond to the inevitable avalanche of stupid, the things reported in the article were not the result of the leaked crude oil. They were results of the chemicals used to "clean up" or "disperse" the crude oil. In other words, the attempt to fix it MADE IT WORSE.

Why aren't we allowed to use the CIA to extract and then shoot the BP CEO and board of directors, again? Please tell me...
 
2013-04-23 10:08:17 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-23 10:09:09 AM  

asynchron: BafflerMeal: And nothing will ever change.  And we will all accept it.

[b.vimeocdn.com image 640x360]

Not trying to troll or sound like a jerk, but how would we reject it? I mean we as the public. Big Oil has the means to outlast any sort of "hunger strike" that could be staged (especially one lasting one day -- remember all those silly chain emails?). I'm not sure even what the US government could do that would have a lasting effect, without flirting with opening itself up to arguments of "cruel and unusual punishment". I mean, in terms of the long game, we could increase our push away from fossil fuels, but so many other products and manufacturing processes draw on petroleum (plastic comes to mind) that it seems that would only make a dent.


Nationalize all US oil exploration and production. US navy only protects USOil interests. Coast guard only responds to USOil rigs. These multinational companies can stop sucking on our teet and make their money like actual capitalists. BP can ask the royal navy to keep peace in the gulf and the British government can sell out their citizens to the Saudi royalty instead. We can stop subsidizing the rest of the world while they call us fat and stupid. But that will never happen as long as we want oil traded in dollars.
 
2013-04-23 10:11:15 AM  
But ... but ... oil is organic. Comes from the earth.
 
2013-04-23 10:16:55 AM  
Wow, I, for one, am totally shocked that an oil corporation lied out their ass and hurt workers to save money.  This is the first time something like this has happened in the history of our county, there is no way anyone could have seen this coming.
 
2013-04-23 10:24:37 AM  

Badgers: [i.imgur.com image 629x541]


You have no idea how sad this image makes me.
 
2013-04-23 10:26:32 AM  

Champion of the Sun: asynchron: BafflerMeal: And nothing will ever change.  And we will all accept it.

[b.vimeocdn.com image 640x360]

Not trying to troll or sound like a jerk, but how would we reject it? I mean we as the public. Big Oil has the means to outlast any sort of "hunger strike" that could be staged (especially one lasting one day -- remember all those silly chain emails?). I'm not sure even what the US government could do that would have a lasting effect, without flirting with opening itself up to arguments of "cruel and unusual punishment". I mean, in terms of the long game, we could increase our push away from fossil fuels, but so many other products and manufacturing processes draw on petroleum (plastic comes to mind) that it seems that would only make a dent.

Nationalize all US oil exploration and production. US navy only protects USOil interests. Coast guard only responds to USOil rigs. These multinational companies can stop sucking on our teet and make their money like actual capitalists. BP can ask the royal navy to keep peace in the gulf and the British government can sell out their citizens to the Saudi royalty instead. We can stop subsidizing the rest of the world while they call us fat and stupid. But that will never happen as long as we want oil traded in dollars.


Hmm, that's actually a rather awesome idea. Startup costs for the government would be high though, but will the diverse base of companies built around government contracting in this country, they could probably at least spin it up quickly. Well... I'll keep my fingers crossed with you, because that doesn't sound like a half-bad plan.
 
2013-04-23 10:31:30 AM  
"Universal literacy was supposed to educate the common man to control his environment. Once he could read and write he would have a mind fit to rule. So ran the democratic doctrine. But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given him rubber stamps, rubber stamps inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of the tabloids and the platitudes of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man's rubber stamps are the duplicates of millions of others, so that when those millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. It may seem an exaggeration to say that the American public gets most of its ideas in this wholesale fashion. The mechanism by which ideas are disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of an organized effort to spread a particular belief or doctrine." -Edward L. Bernays
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2013-04-23 10:36:03 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: Wikileaks or Anon need to focus their energy on uncovering all written communication regarding Corexit and the safety risks.  I'm sure there is a trail.


Pretty pathetic when our best hope for truth is some vigilante crowd-sourced hackers.
 
2013-04-23 10:37:12 AM  
There are no words for how much oil companies blow.  Best example of why laissez faire Capitalism sucks ever.
 
2013-04-23 10:47:21 AM  
s3.amazonaws.com

Billions of dollars can buy a lot of attention (or ignorance, depending on what you want).
 
2013-04-23 10:48:27 AM  

Generation_D: SmellsLikePoo: Wikileaks or Anon need to focus their energy on uncovering all written communication regarding Corexit and the safety risks.  I'm sure there is a trail.

Pretty pathetic when our best hope for truth is some vigilante crowd-sourced hackers.


And you can be sure the person who uncovers anything useful that shows the full extent of BP's crime will be prosecuted under CISPA or something similar.

/sigh
 
2013-04-23 10:50:18 AM  

kendelrio: I just got a follow up letter from the gov't asking me to submit to more health testing because I worked the spill from get to quit so I'm getting a kick outta all of this hubbub, bub.


I like your deuce
 
2013-04-23 10:51:09 AM  
The obvious tag must be covered in oil so i couldnt see it.
 
2013-04-23 10:56:05 AM  
So what I got out of that article is that Jamie Oliver doesn't know that oil doesn't clean up with water.
 
2013-04-23 10:56:25 AM  
Oil shmoil
Let it boil
I'm gonna find me a real hot goil....
 
2013-04-23 11:17:22 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: kendelrio: I just got a follow up letter from the gov't asking me to submit to more health testing because I worked the spill from get to quit so I'm getting a kick outta all of this hubbub, bub.

I like your deuce



Thanks. It's my G.O.O.D vehicle for the NWO invasion/zombie apocalypse, whichever comes first.
 
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