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2013-04-23 09:40:39 AM
Sanford had this locked up, but he had trespass at his wife's house. It's fine, after this election the RNC is rid of him and they'll win the seat back in a year and a half since it's R+10
 
2013-04-23 09:40:51 AM
Good.
 
2013-04-23 09:42:45 AM
I want to believe this, but I can't underestimate how backwards and brainwashed the people of my district are.
 
2013-04-23 09:43:16 AM
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2013-04-23 09:43:39 AM
Guaranteed she'll lose.  Book it.  Done.  South Carolina is pretty much a dumping ground for special needs individuals.
 
2013-04-23 09:45:41 AM
The poll is skewed - they interviewed more Colbert supporters than Sanford supporters.
 
2013-04-23 09:46:10 AM
Sorry, Sanford, but

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// enjoy the butt aping
 
2013-04-23 09:52:00 AM
The ridiculous thing to me are these two results from that poll:

1) Interestingly the events of the last week haven't hurt Sanford too much with Republicans though- 65% say the trespassing charges don't give them any doubts about him, and his favorability with GOP voters has actually improved from 55/39 a month ago to now 61/32.

2) [W]hile Mark Sanford's poll numbers with Republicans have improved since the last time we looked at this race, Jenny Sanford's have gone in the other direction. What was a 57/15 favorability rating for her with Republicans is now 47/27, suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

Republicans are actually blaming Jenny Sanford for bringing up the fact that her ex-husband is a law-breaking douchebag who is violating the terms of their divorce agreement.
 
2013-04-23 09:53:21 AM

DubyaHater: Guaranteed she'll lose.  Book it.  Done.  South Carolina is pretty much a dumping ground for special needs individuals.


Hey, I'm from South Carolina and I resent that!

Oh wait, I was born here, not dumped.  And Sanford is originally from Florida.  I concede your point, sir.
 
2013-04-23 09:54:52 AM
SC voters are more pissed off that he got the date of the Alamo wrong in his ad than about the trespassing.
 
2013-04-23 09:57:44 AM

Serious Black: The ridiculous thing to me are these two results from that poll:

1) Interestingly the events of the last week haven't hurt Sanford too much with Republicans though- 65% say the trespassing charges don't give them any doubts about him, and his favorability with GOP voters has actually improved from 55/39 a month ago to now 61/32.

2) [W]hile Mark Sanford's poll numbers with Republicans have improved since the last time we looked at this race, Jenny Sanford's have gone in the other direction. What was a 57/15 favorability rating for her with Republicans is now 47/27, suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

Republicans are actually blaming Jenny Sanford for bringing up the fact that her ex-husband is a law-breaking douchebag who is violating the terms of their divorce agreement.


I heard a guy call into the local radio show hosted by the county republican committee chairman that explains this.  He biatched the chairman out for broadcasting and talking about Mark's trespassing because it makes it more likely for a child-killing, mandatory gay-marrying, gun grabbing, Mooslim-lover to get elected instead of an upstanding family man.

And yes, this is an almost exact quote - the 'upstanding family man' IS exactly what he said.
 
2013-04-23 10:10:01 AM
suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

What war on women?
 
2013-04-23 10:13:31 AM
I should clarify my previous comment. When I refer to the GOP War on Women, I don't mean that party brass sit in smoke-filled rooms plotting ways to make women's lives miserable (although who knows, maybe they do just that). I mean that male Republicans don't seem to hold women in very high regard, and if they do, they should take a long look at the people they're electing to office.
 
2013-04-23 10:16:42 AM

Karac: Serious Black: The ridiculous thing to me are these two results from that poll:

1) Interestingly the events of the last week haven't hurt Sanford too much with Republicans though- 65% say the trespassing charges don't give them any doubts about him, and his favorability with GOP voters has actually improved from 55/39 a month ago to now 61/32.

2) [W]hile Mark Sanford's poll numbers with Republicans have improved since the last time we looked at this race, Jenny Sanford's have gone in the other direction. What was a 57/15 favorability rating for her with Republicans is now 47/27, suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

Republicans are actually blaming Jenny Sanford for bringing up the fact that her ex-husband is a law-breaking douchebag who is violating the terms of their divorce agreement.

I heard a guy call into the local radio show hosted by the county republican committee chairman that explains this.  He biatched the chairman out for broadcasting and talking about Mark's trespassing because it makes it more likely for a child-killing, mandatory gay-marrying, gun grabbing, Mooslim-lover to get elected instead of an upstanding family man.

And yes, this is an almost exact quote - the 'upstanding family man' IS exactly what he said.


I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.
 
2013-04-23 10:20:04 AM

WTF Indeed: Sanford had this locked up, but he had trespass at his wife's house. It's fine, after this election the RNC is rid of him and they'll win the seat back in a year and a half since it's R+10


It was already a toss-up before that revelation.
 
2013-04-23 10:22:27 AM

Serious Black: The ridiculous thing to me are these two results from that poll:

1) Interestingly the events of the last week haven't hurt Sanford too much with Republicans though- 65% say the trespassing charges don't give them any doubts about him, and his favorability with GOP voters has actually improved from 55/39 a month ago to now 61/32.

2) [W]hile Mark Sanford's poll numbers with Republicans have improved since the last time we looked at this race, Jenny Sanford's have gone in the other direction. What was a 57/15 favorability rating for her with Republicans is now 47/27, suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

Republicans are actually blaming Jenny Sanford for bringing up the fact that her ex-husband is a law-breaking douchebag who is violating the terms of their divorce agreement.


Once you decide rape victims are to blame for rape, it's easy to proceed from that to blaming a wife for her husband's cheating and an ex-wife for her ex trespassing.
 
2013-04-23 10:26:17 AM
Bwahahahahaaa!
I'm certainly pleased the Pro-family Party has once again picked the best possible candidate. Keep up the good work, and never let the filthy libs tell you you're wrong.
 
2013-04-23 10:27:45 AM

Serious Black: Republicans are actually blaming Jenny Sanford for bringing up the fact that her ex-husband is a law-breaking douchebag who is violating the terms of their divorce agreement.



Are you surprised? Their cognitive dissonace could power the sun.
 
2013-04-23 10:31:29 AM
I look forward to the day when we can once again look down on South Carolina.
 
2013-04-23 10:37:30 AM

Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.


Surprise...most people are essentially tribalists. Video at 11.

That includes Democrats, btw.

/democrat
 
2013-04-23 10:38:36 AM

UNC_Samurai: I look forward to the day when we can once again look down on South Carolina.


Give it an hour or two.  There's always a new reason to look down on SC.

/Spent the past year in SC.  Can't wait to leave.
 
2013-04-23 11:02:40 AM
I moved to Columbia 5 years ago after living nearly 30 years in Tennessee. I never thought I'd miss that turd stain sandwiched in between Nashville and Memphis, but oh man!
 
2013-04-23 11:14:35 AM

wasteful: I moved to Columbia 5 years ago after living nearly 30 years in Tennessee. I never thought I'd miss that turd stain sandwiched in between Nashville and Memphis, but oh man!


You live in Columbia?  Lucky bastard.
Come out here in the boonies if you want to find things to really complain about.
 
2013-04-23 11:44:39 AM

Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.


Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.
 
2013-04-23 11:56:34 AM

The Why Not Guy: suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

What war on women?


I doubt it has anything to do with support for Sanforr's ex or women in general. There will be voters who are reaching for an excuse not to vote for the Republican candidate as he is an embarrassment but at the same time he is the only option in that party.
 
2013-04-23 11:59:46 AM

Krieghund: Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.

Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.


Yeah, and how many Democrats do you know who would vote for Fred Phelps today?
 
2013-04-23 12:06:54 PM

Krieghund: Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.

Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.


Seems to me the best way Fred Phelps could damage the Democrats is by pretending to be one.
 
2013-04-23 12:17:33 PM

Serious Black: Krieghund: Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.

Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.

Yeah, and how many Democrats do you know who would vote for Fred Phelps today?


Probably as many as Republicans would vote for that socialist property stealer, Lincoln.  10th Amendment dammit!
 
2013-04-23 12:19:09 PM

Krieghund: Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.

Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.



Also, North Korea is a democracy.
 
2013-04-23 12:20:33 PM

macadamnut: Krieghund: Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.

Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.

Seems to me the best way Fred Phelps could damage the Democrats is by pretending to be one.



His anti-gay agenda certainly makes it more likely.
*rolls eyes*
 
2013-04-23 12:30:10 PM

monoski: I doubt it has anything to do with support for Sanforr's ex or women in general. There will be voters who are reaching for an excuse not to vote for the Republican candidate as he is an embarrassment but at the same time he is the only option in that party.


I understand that. But what motivation is there for the GOP to provide better options when the rank and file not only excuse Sanford's alleged trespassing but actually blame the ex-wife? That's a pretty clear message to the party leaders that they can put up whoever they please and still count on the votes.

People who whine and moan about how their party is letting them down but refuse to even consider withdrawing support are sending that same message. If my party was in this situation I wouldn't hesitate to withdraw my support and make sure they knew why.
 
2013-04-23 12:57:48 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: I want to believe this, but I can't underestimate how backwards and brainwashed the people of my district are.


The insanity is nationwide unfortunately: here in Wisconsin we elected a bunch of drooling teabagger jackasses (we replaced Russ Feingold with one of them) chief among them a governor whose previous "successes" were running a county that was so piss poor that only an Indian reservation ranked worse and getting kicked out of college.  Our job growth is tanking so maybe we'll get the message.  Or maybe we won't
 
2013-04-23 01:15:30 PM

The Why Not Guy: People who whine and moan about how their party is letting them down but refuse to even consider withdrawing support are sending that same message. If my party was in this situation I wouldn't hesitate to withdraw my support and make sure they knew why.


THIS.  THIS is why I left the GOP back in 2006, and why I roll my eyes at anyone who still identifies with the party while complaining that it has "lost its way" or whatever euphemism they want to use.

There comes a time when it's just time to leave.  The party you loved and identified with doesn't exist anymore.  It's dead.  To this day I still get pangs of guilt whenever I think about how long I remained loyal to that worthless, malevolent party. Anyone who thinks there's anything redeemable in the GOP has a few screws loose.
 
2013-04-23 01:16:53 PM

cmb53208: Or maybe we won't


Well, you practically reelected the guy when you had a chance to get him out of office, so I'm guessing you won't.
 
2013-04-23 01:29:31 PM
I want her to win so we can have the best "better know a district" interview ever.
 
2013-04-23 02:34:47 PM

Serious Black: The ridiculous thing to me are these two results from that poll:

1) Interestingly the events of the last week haven't hurt Sanford too much with Republicans though- 65% say the trespassing charges don't give them any doubts about him, and his favorability with GOP voters has actually improved from 55/39 a month ago to now 61/32.

2) [W]hile Mark Sanford's poll numbers with Republicans have improved since the last time we looked at this race, Jenny Sanford's have gone in the other direction. What was a 57/15 favorability rating for her with Republicans is now 47/27, suggesting that a lot of GOP voters are holding the trespassing allegations against her instead of her ex-husband.

Republicans are actually blaming Jenny Sanford for bringing up the fact that her ex-husband is a law-breaking douchebag who is violating the terms of their divorce agreement.


Welcome to South Carolina.
 
2013-04-23 03:13:28 PM
The main thing here is that she is not a celebrity herself, just the sister of a celebrity.  If she were a celebrity then she would be trailing badly because Democratic celebrities, unlike Republican celebrities, are always bad.  So what the GOP needs to do is find a Republican celebrity to run against her and then the tide will turn since Republican celebrities are always good.
 
2013-04-23 03:27:15 PM

Pincy: The main thing here is that she is not a celebrity herself, just the sister of a celebrity.  If she were a celebrity then she would be trailing badly because Democratic celebrities, unlike Republican celebrities, are always bad.  So what the GOP needs to do is find a Republican celebrity to run against her and then the tide will turn since Republican celebrities are always good.


So you're saying that the GOP should ask Stephen Colbert to run against her?
 
2013-04-23 05:15:57 PM

Krieghund: Serious Black: I wonder how many Republicans would vote for somebody like Fred Phelps or Anders Breivik if it meant keeping a Democrat out of office. I suspect it's a very large number.

Fred Phelps *is* a Democrat.


Yeah, 15% of the vote.

Spectacular.
 
2013-04-23 06:51:43 PM

Karac: wasteful: I moved to Columbia 5 years ago after living nearly 30 years in Tennessee. I never thought I'd miss that turd stain sandwiched in between Nashville and Memphis, but oh man!

You live in Columbia?  Lucky bastard.
Come out here in the boonies if you want to find things to really complain about.



And here I am thinking I was the only one who felt that way about Columbia, been here 7 yrs now.
 
2013-04-23 11:17:42 PM
FTA "he reflected on his "rough week" and invoked the Battle of the Alamo in saying he's both "outgunned" and "outmanned." "

Ok American farkers, explain to me why the fark there is always a certain class of American douchbag, usually Republican who insists on using the Alamo as touchstone for every single difficulty.  I mean, Mexicans actually won that battle (eventually).  It seems to me like the agony of the loss would outweigh the benefit of the "standing-alone-against-all-odds" hype.

I mean, I don't here Canadians going on about who we Dieppe'd the shiat out of something, no matter who brave those soldiers were.
 
2013-04-24 12:51:50 AM

ReluctantPaladin: FTA "he reflected on his "rough week" and invoked the Battle of the Alamo in saying he's both "outgunned" and "outmanned." "

Ok American farkers, explain to me why the fark there is always a certain class of American douchbag, usually Republican who insists on using the Alamo as touchstone for every single difficulty.  I mean, Mexicans actually won that battle (eventually).  It seems to me like the agony of the loss would outweigh the benefit of the "standing-alone-against-all-odds" hype.

I mean, I don't here Canadians going on about who we Dieppe'd the shiat out of something, no matter who brave those soldiers were.


I'm an American who now lives happily in Canada, so I'll give it a shot...

First off, don't underestimate the visceral reaction to the idea of a brave group of holdouts, standing for their individual rights and the rights of the country, even though they know they're going to die.  "Remember the Alamo!" was a rallying cry in the U.S. for generations after.  It's not about who won or lost (because the U.S. eventually DID win), it's about making the ideal of Manifest Destiny and American Exceptionalism a cornerstone of one's world view.

And you may notice, Americans only use it when they think they're going to lose.  Generally, making reference to the Alamo is a pre-emptive measure to make their most egregious and ignominious defeat look like an act of nobility.  No matter how stupid or silly or self-absorbed or richly deserved it is.
 
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