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(Fox News)   Boston bombers spared the life of their carjack victim because he "wasn't an American," a fact that will surely end any debate on motive   (foxnews.com) divider line 70
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2013-04-23 08:24:28 AM  
It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?
 
2013-04-23 08:26:31 AM  
I predict that the one surviving asshole is going to do very well in prison.
 
2013-04-23 08:34:22 AM  
A naturalized citizen who was virtually raised here sparing the life of another because they 'weren't American.' Heh.
 
2013-04-23 09:04:45 AM  

somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?


Because it's not from CNN?
 
2013-04-23 09:04:59 AM  
Did they actually ask the guy, or were they just racist on top of everything else?
 
2013-04-23 09:09:45 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I predict that the one surviving asshole is going to do very well in prison.


Super max with one hour a day outside his cell.
 
2013-04-23 09:10:12 AM  
I just finished reading Mark Bowden's "Guests of the Ayatollah", about the Iranian Embassy takeover.

One of the highlights- one of the guards asked one of the hostages if he thought that the whole incident would hurt his chances of getting a US visa after it was all over.

Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?
 
2013-04-23 09:16:56 AM  
Well here comes the full derp
 
2013-04-23 09:29:43 AM  

mr_a: I just finished reading Mark Bowden's "Guests of the Ayatollah", about the Iranian Embassy takeover.

One of the highlights- one of the guards asked one of the hostages if he thought that the whole incident would hurt his chances of getting a US visa after it was all over.

Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?


QFT.
 
2013-04-23 09:47:29 AM  

somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?


fox may short-circuit in a moment. their prime directive is to be the mouthpiece of the GOP, and the mainstream GOP wants the immigration bill to pass after getting its ass handed to it in the last election. however, fox's viewers are old, white racists who would rather not see the bill pass. so right now fox is in a quandary: do we satisfy our viewers or our masters in washington?
 
2013-04-23 09:48:58 AM  

Sybarite: Did they actually ask the guy, or were they just racist on top of everything else?


I'm reminded of Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 2, "I want to go to South Africa and free my oppressed brothers!"

"But yer black."
 
2013-04-23 09:50:57 AM  

I_C_Weener: "But yer blek."


FTFY
 
2013-04-23 09:54:01 AM  

FlashHarry: I_C_Weener: "But yer blek."

FTFY


With one of the coolest house-destroying scenes and one of the cheesiest escape scenes in movie history.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:44 AM  

2wolves: Because People in power are Stupid: I predict that the one surviving asshole is going to do very well in prison.

Super max with one hour a day outside his cell.


For one hour a day, he's going to need to really watch out for his cornhole.

mr_a: Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?


Air conditioning, mostly.
 
2013-04-23 10:03:46 AM  

mr_a: I just finished reading Mark Bowden's "Guests of the Ayatollah", about the Iranian Embassy takeover.

One of the highlights- one of the guards asked one of the hostages if he thought that the whole incident would hurt his chances of getting a US visa after it was all over.

Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?


PJ O'Rourke put it best. America is a gorgeous supermodel and the third world is a teenage boy. If they can't have us a chance to pester us will do just as well.
 
2013-04-23 10:04:07 AM  

somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?


I'm surprised that someone with your IQ can even read and write.
 
2013-04-23 10:04:17 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I predict that the one surviving asshole is going to do very well in prison.


I hope his cellie is the best endowed nubian in the prison system.
 
2013-04-23 10:05:14 AM  
Egg on their faces.  One of the three people killed wasn't an American.  Embarrassing!
 
2013-04-23 10:05:22 AM  
Is there still debate on motive?
 
2013-04-23 10:05:50 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Well here comes the full derp


I'll bet you that representatives of the only party of personal and fiscal responsibility are getting the Full Derp machine stoked right now as we speak.  I don't think it's fully primed yet but it's coming.
 
2013-04-23 10:08:11 AM  
Not this shiat again...

The only person who could have said this is the carjack victim. The same victim who couldn't decide if he escaped or was set free so he told both stories.

The same man who said that they told him they were headed to Manhattan, but then recanted and said that he thought he maybe heard the word "Manhattan" when they were speaking Russian or Chechen.

The same guy who is now not saying this anymore.

He is Chinese. As was one of the dead victims.

The race they targeted was an international sporting event with athletes from 97 countries. There was ZERO expectation that victims would only be US citizens, and every expectation that there would be foreigners in the crowd.

They did not care who they blew up. It makes no sense at all that they would suddenly care who they shot.
 
2013-04-23 10:09:02 AM  

somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?


It's from the police report. RTFA
 
2013-04-23 10:09:59 AM  
i23.photobucket.com
so, what was he?

/ i'm a dual citizen, american and swedish, i wonder if saying I'm not american, I'm swedish!  will be my get out of death card... or just annoy them by saying, on top of being american, i'm actually from a nordic utopia where everything is even more perfect.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:05 AM  
People who bomb marathons then try to go on with their daily lives for a couple days might not have thoughts that seem entirely logical to the rest of us?  I can't believe it.
 
2013-04-23 10:13:26 AM  

namegoeshere: Not this shiat again...

The only person who could have said this is the carjack victim. The same victim who couldn't decide if he escaped or was set free so he told both stories.

The same man who said that they told him they were headed to Manhattan, but then recanted and said that he thought he maybe heard the word "Manhattan" when they were speaking Russian or Chechen.

The same guy who is now not saying this anymore.

He is Chinese. As was one of the dead victims.

The race they targeted was an international sporting event with athletes from 97 countries. There was ZERO expectation that victims would only be US citizens, and every expectation that there would be foreigners in the crowd.

They did not care who they blew up. It makes no sense at all that they would suddenly care who they shot.


Sure it does. If they wanted to blow up Chinese people they would have gone to China. They were intent on killing Americans. That's Jihad 101.
 
2013-04-23 10:14:34 AM  
Derp is coming out
 
2013-04-23 10:15:53 AM  

The Muthaship: Is there still debate on motive?


There never was. It has always been about taxes.
 
2013-04-23 10:17:35 AM  

mr_a: I just finished reading Mark Bowden's "Guests of the Ayatollah", about the Iranian Embassy takeover.

One of the highlights- one of the guards asked one of the hostages if he thought that the whole incident would hurt his chances of getting a US visa after it was all over.

Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?


...because EVERYONE wants to go the usa..Seriously I live in the UAE and whenever I tell them I'm from ny they're all..like OMFGBBQWOW I want to go to Americaaaaa. (And anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shiat). Even the european expats here...we actually have people that really want to go the us for work related issues and get mad when they're in the company for x years and work doesn't sponsor a us visa....
 
2013-04-23 10:18:34 AM  

birchman: Derp is coming out


yep, right out of your face mouth.
 
2013-04-23 10:19:17 AM  
namegoeshere
  2013-04-23 10:08:11 AM

The race they targeted was an international sporting event with athletes from 97 countries. There was ZERO expectation that victims would only be US citizens, and every expectation that there would be foreigners in the crowd.

They did not care who they blew up. It makes no sense at all that they would suddenly care who they shot.



Looks like someone has never been to a marathon before. Yes, it is an international event, but it is so overwhelmingly (white) American it is not even funny. Besides, by the time of the explosions the Kenyans were probably done with the marathon by two hours.

My default is to believe this story until it is proven otherwise. ]I doubt I can disabuse you of that notion so I won't try.
 
2013-04-23 10:24:01 AM  
Indiscriminately bombing innocent 8-year-olds may not bat an eye in Chechnya, but these guys are truly foolish to think that we have the same tolerance and desensitization to that kind of senseless violence here.

There is a generation of young males growing up in the Middle East and Western Asia who think setting off EIDs for your cause is common and just a way of life, just a phase of growing up.  It has become almost a lifestyle in some parts of the world.
 
2013-04-23 10:28:09 AM  
If that account is true, it almost sounds like they wanted to get caught.  Bragging about being the bombers, exposing plans to go to NY, letting him get away only to call 911.  I'm glad it went this way rather than quietly sneaking into NY and doing it again, but it seems fishy.
www.dongeronimo.org
Seems Fishy to me to.
 
2013-04-23 10:30:30 AM  
How do you tell if someone is "American" or not?
 
2013-04-23 10:33:57 AM  
Isn't it just grand that our melting pot has so many wonderful flavors in it?
 
2013-04-23 10:34:24 AM  

2wolves: Because People in power are Stupid: I predict that the one surviving asshole is going to do very well in prison.

Super max with one hour a day outside his cell.


This is probably what will happen with him.. They will get a plea deal out of him to keep him from lethal injection.
 
2013-04-23 10:35:05 AM  
Just as importantly as the Chinese victim, it's also notable that these guys were pinned in Watertown because nonAmerican naked carjack victim helped the police and saved lives when they utilized his cell phone's location.
So I'm not sure if my point is that my heart says that I trust immigrants and can't waste my time with racism and racists, or if in the event of terrorism there is no race, mostly just good people helping.  Or is the lesson learned here that when you're a terrorist, you can't afford to make exceptions?  Once word leaks out that you've gone soft people begin to disobey you and then it's nothing but work work work all the time.
Wait, scratch that last one.  It only applies to pirates
 
2013-04-23 10:47:38 AM  

namegoeshere: Not this shiat again...

The only person who could have said this is the carjack victim. The same victim who couldn't decide if he escaped or was set free so he told both stories.

The same man who said that they told him they were headed to Manhattan, but then recanted and said that he thought he maybe heard the word "Manhattan" when they were speaking Russian or Chechen.

The same guy who is now not saying this anymore.

He is Chinese. As was one of the dead victims.

The race they targeted was an international sporting event with athletes from 97 countries. There was ZERO expectation that victims would only be US citizens, and every expectation that there would be foreigners in the crowd.

They did not care who they blew up. It makes no sense at all that they would suddenly care who they shot.


You should add this to the comments section of the article on the Fox site.  It would be fun to see the crazy replies to it.
 
2013-04-23 10:56:58 AM  

Cythraul: A naturalized citizen who was virtually raised here sparing the life of another because they 'weren't American.' Heh.


FOX News watchers have no idea he's a citizen. They won't ever mention that.
 
2013-04-23 11:09:45 AM  
I've seen this carjacking account in two places...The Daily Mail and Fox. It might as well be the Enquirer.
 
2013-04-23 11:15:07 AM  
Lawrence O'Donnell last night said he got the same story from the carjack victim. I'm sure he wants to avoid the spotlight so he doesn't get a bunch of Real Americans calling him an accomplice.
 
2013-04-23 11:28:23 AM  
" He then removed the magazine from his gun and showed the driver a bullet."

And while he was busy dicking around with his magazine, that's when I'd draw and put a few in his torso.

/ITG
 
2013-04-23 11:49:02 AM  
From what I understood, the Chinese guy who got away, flat out escaped.  One brother was inside, one was pumping gas, the guy took his chances that they wouldn't shoot him in a public area.  There was no "letting him go" at all.
 
2013-04-23 12:00:45 PM  

computerguyUT: How do you tell if someone is "American" or not?


Ask nicely?
 
2013-04-23 12:02:30 PM  
1) This belongs on the politics tab.
2) Fox News is just making sh*t up to fit their agenda.

File under Bengazi, Agenda 21 and Bigfoot.
 
2013-04-23 12:08:51 PM  
In the following minutes, the three drove the streets of Cambridge, stoping at bank machines where the brothers forced their victim to withdraw money, all while talking of their plans, according to reports. The victim said his abductors only decided not to kill him because he "wasn't an American," and also  talked of going to New York next, according to reports.

So they forced the guy to mine ore? That's hardcore.
 
2013-04-23 12:09:37 PM  
A fine advertisement for our immigration policies.
 
2013-04-23 12:14:44 PM  

BrotherEarth: 1) This belongs on the politics tab.
2) Fox News is just making sh*t up to fit their agenda.

File under Bengazi, Agenda 21 and Bigfoot.


It's in the police report, derpy.
 
2013-04-23 12:16:04 PM  

namegoeshere: The race they targeted was an international sporting event with athletes from 97 countries.


That's racist!
 
2013-04-23 12:19:53 PM  

computerguyUT: How do you tell if someone is "American" or not?


Americans live in America - the red portion of this map.

Duh

wonkette.com
 
2013-04-23 12:26:23 PM  

jaytkay: namegoeshere: The race they targeted was an international sporting event with athletes from 97 countries.

That's racist!


<chuckle>
 
2013-04-23 12:27:46 PM  

enik: somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?

I'm surprised that someone with your IQ can even read and write.


oh, a stupid joke. Do tell me how my believing this is politically motivated to bring up now, right at the start of a controversial immigration reform debate is wrong.

I look forward to this. The youngest one was a naturalized citizen. Explain to me how this is an immigration issue
 
2013-04-23 12:46:16 PM  

somedude210: enik: somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?

I'm surprised that someone with your IQ can even read and write.

oh, a stupid joke. Do tell me how my believing this is politically motivated to bring up now, right at the start of a controversial immigration reform debate is wrong.

I look forward to this. The youngest one was a naturalized citizen. Explain to me how this is an immigration issue


Well hey you never let a trajedy go to waste. You of all people should know that
 
2013-04-23 12:46:21 PM  

mr_a: I just finished reading Mark Bowden's "Guests of the Ayatollah", about the Iranian Embassy takeover.

One of the highlights- one of the guards asked one of the hostages if he thought that the whole incident would hurt his chances of getting a US visa after it was all over.

Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?


Maybe because it's where you make money?

I can totally understand this mentality. Take the SF Bay Area. I live here. I don't like it all that much (wouldn't say I hate it). It's crowded, it's very expensive, it's full of snooty millionaires who got lucky on the start-up lottery. But there is lots of work here, and none where I'd prefer to live, so I live with it.

I know plenty of people who aren't particularly thrilled with the USA, but are working here like crazy and saving up until they have enough to live like a king back in their country. It's not a tough concept to understand.
 
2013-04-23 12:48:23 PM  
Gee, that's new information.  I thought it was just because they didn't want to get the car all sticky.

/that and make sure the PIN for the guy's ATM card worked.
 
2013-04-23 12:50:47 PM  

Sybarite: Did they actually ask the guy, or were they just racist on top of everything else?


How do you know someone from another country isn't Caucasian?
 
2013-04-23 12:50:52 PM  

somedude210: enik: somedude210: It's Fox saying this, when an immigration reform bill is going through Congress at the moment that is not popular with the Right, so tell me why I should believe this story?

I'm surprised that someone with your IQ can even read and write.

oh, a stupid joke. Do tell me how my believing this is politically motivated to bring up now, right at the start of a controversial immigration reform debate is wrong.

I look forward to this. The youngest one was a naturalized citizen. Explain to me how this is an immigration issue


The younger brother may be an anchor baby, but the bombers's family is an immigrant family.  Did you not notice that?

It will be increasingly argued that open immigration will bring ever more jihad to us "at home."
 
2013-04-23 12:58:55 PM  

keypusher: BrotherEarth: 1) This belongs on the politics tab.
2) Fox News is just making sh*t up to fit their agenda.

File under Bengazi, Agenda 21 and Bigfoot.

It's in the police report, derpy.


Oh, then Bengazi, Agenda 21, UFO's, hallucinations and Bigfoot are all true, if they appear in a police report. And Fox news wouldn't cherry pick the items from that report to fit their agenda.

Refile under gullible.
 
2013-04-23 01:21:34 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Just as importantly as the Chinese victim, it's also notable that these guys were pinned in Watertown because nonAmerican naked carjack victim helped the police and saved lives when they utilized his cell phone's location.
So I'm not sure if my point is that my heart says that I trust immigrants and can't waste my time with racism and racists, or if in the event of terrorism there is no race, mostly just good people helping.  Or is the lesson learned here that when you're a terrorist, you can't afford to make exceptions?  Once word leaks out that you've gone soft people begin to disobey you and then it's nothing but work work work all the time.
Wait, scratch that last one.  It only applies to pirates


Maybe not.

(What you did there;  I see it).
 
2013-04-23 01:53:00 PM  

BrotherEarth: keypusher: BrotherEarth: 1) This belongs on the politics tab.
2) Fox News is just making sh*t up to fit their agenda.

File under Bengazi, Agenda 21 and Bigfoot.

It's in the police report, derpy.

Oh, then Bengazi, Agenda 21, UFO's, hallucinations and Bigfoot are all true, if they appear in a police report. And Fox news wouldn't cherry pick the items from that report to fit their agenda.

Refile under gullible.


God, I am sick of fark farkwits.  Everyone has agendas.
 
2013-04-23 02:15:34 PM  

keypusher: BrotherEarth: keypusher: BrotherEarth: 1) This belongs on the politics tab.
2) Fox News is just making sh*t up to fit their agenda.

File under Bengazi, Agenda 21 and Bigfoot.

It's in the police report, derpy.

Oh, then Bengazi, Agenda 21, UFO's, hallucinations and Bigfoot are all true, if they appear in a police report. And Fox news wouldn't cherry pick the items from that report to fit their agenda.

Refile under gullible.

God, I am sick of fark farkwits.  Everyone has agendas.


Agreed. My advice would be ... Don't Troll ... unless you can come up with something a bit more witty.
 
2013-04-23 02:33:52 PM  

computerguyUT: How do you tell if someone is "American" or not?


If he is chewing gum.
 
2013-04-23 02:59:59 PM  
As more and more information becomes available, I find myself becoming skeptical.  I have never felt this way before regarding other big news stories.
 
2013-04-23 03:24:33 PM  
"He wasn't an American": isn't that a motive in a lot of the hiring in the US?
 
2013-04-23 03:26:55 PM  
Well, they did manage to get the simple details wrong like the location of the gas station so I am sure they took exceptional care getting the rest right.
 
2013-04-23 03:57:13 PM  

mr_a: Why do people that hate the US insist on coming here?


"Whiskey. Andsexy!"
 
2013-04-23 04:13:35 PM  

Ker_Thwap: From what I understood, the Chinese guy who got away, flat out escaped.  One brother was inside, one was pumping gas, the guy took his chances that they wouldn't shoot him in a public area.  There was no "letting him go" at all.


Yeah, WTF? That's the story I read, as well...
 
2013-04-23 04:29:17 PM  
Gotta love the Mafia and Lucky Luciano's "hey, I'm a crook not a traitor." As he offered the Feds his help with the Sicily invasion. He was in prison at the time.
 
2013-04-23 10:41:14 PM  

ChuDogg: Well hey you never let a trajedy go to waste. You of all people should know that


me of all people? What did I do? I don't even know who the fark you are
 
2013-04-23 10:49:18 PM  

CoonAce: The younger brother may be an anchor baby, but the bombers's family is an immigrant family.  Did you not notice that?

It will be increasingly argued that open immigration will bring ever more jihad to us "at home."


hahahahaha, wow. Just curious are you purely Native American? Which tribe? What? You're not? Well then you shouldn't give a damn if his family were immigrants, you know why, because this country was founded by damn immigrants, it was populated by damn immigrants and immigrants is what keeps this country growing.

You want to fear us having "jihad" at home, that's your problem. I'm gonna go worry about problems that will  actually happen and has a better chance of happening then being struck twice by lightning in the span of 5 minutes while scratching a million dollar lottery ticket, like where our next war is going to take place.

there are real problems in the world, real issues to tackle, but cowering in fear because someone  might blow up a homemade bomb because they have an inferiority complex is something not worth pissing your pants over. People die, it's a fact of life. What these two did is inexcusable, but what would be worse is if we start blaming thousands of people simply because of something unrelated that two dumbasses did while sharing 1 single trait. If they were gay lovers and not brothers, would you then assume that we cannot have gay rights in this country because we'll have fabulous jihad everywhere? No, so shut the fark up. It's people like you that allow our government to take away our rights, freedoms and privacy all so that you can sleep at night without the rubber sheets on the bed.
 
2013-04-24 12:15:05 AM  

somedude210: CoonAce: The younger brother may be an anchor baby, but the bombers's family is an immigrant family.  Did you not notice that?

It will be increasingly argued that open immigration will bring ever more jihad to us "at home."

hahahahaha, wow. Just curious are you purely Native American? Which tribe? What? You're not? Well then you shouldn't give a damn if his family were immigrants, you know why, because this country was founded by damn immigrants, it was populated by damn immigrants and immigrants is what keeps this country growing.

You want to fear us having "jihad" at home, that's your problem. I'm gonna go worry about problems that will  actually happen and has a better chance of happening then being struck twice by lightning in the span of 5 minutes while scratching a million dollar lottery ticket, like where our next war is going to take place.

there are real problems in the world, real issues to tackle, but cowering in fear because someone  might blow up a homemade bomb because they have an inferiority complex is something not worth pissing your pants over. People die, it's a fact of life. What these two did is inexcusable, but what would be worse is if we start blaming thousands of people simply because of something unrelated that two dumbasses did while sharing 1 single trait. If they were gay lovers and not brothers, would you then assume that we cannot have gay rights in this country because we'll have fabulous jihad everywhere? No, so shut the fark up. It's people like you that allow our government to take away our rights, freedoms and privacy all so that you can sleep at night without the rubber sheets on the bed.


Farking THIS.
 
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