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(NBC San Diego)   The judge didn't want to sentence the police officer to jail for DUI because that would result in him getting fired   (nbcsandiego.com) divider line 69
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2013-04-23 07:36:52 AM  
Wow, so who'd have thought that breaking the law, in a vehicle owned by the police, by someone whose job definition includes upholding and enforcing the laws, wouldn't be a fireable action?

Jeez, people get fired for far less relevant things...
 
2013-04-23 08:13:21 AM  
At least this one didn't kill anyone. Yet.
 
2013-04-23 08:37:10 AM  
Hey, what is that separating the rest of us from cops?  Oh, right, it's a thin blue line.

And cops wonder why they have a bad reputation.  it's because the good ones don't call out the bad ones when they pull shiat like this...
 
2013-04-23 08:38:09 AM  
*facepalm*
 
2013-04-23 08:50:23 AM  
I'd like to see this "I need to keep my job" used as a sentencing guideline in any future case of anyone that may face jail time for DUI. Precedent has now been set, so I say go for it.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 09:30:03 AM  
They do that here too, but without saying the officer's job was the reason. The magistrate drops the DUI charge because the officer's breath test was delayed. Apparent intoxication with no breath test is enough to take a civilian's case to trial. The prosecutor makes an illegal plea bargain (waiving mandatory jail time for DUI hit and run with injury), but nobody has standing to object.

Under federal sentencing guidelines losing your job as a police officer is not grounds to get a lower sentence. The Supreme Court decided that in one of the Rodney King cases.
 
2013-04-23 09:32:44 AM  
This is the way the world ends: Not with a bang but a whimper.
 
2013-04-23 10:08:09 AM  
I want equal protection under the law.
 
2013-04-23 10:08:48 AM  
What would happen if an average schmuck tried using this defense?
 
2013-04-23 10:09:36 AM  
Why don't people keep track of shiat like this and use it as precedent for regular people later on?
 
2013-04-23 10:10:07 AM  
I'm sure the judge will show equal consideration for all the drunks who might lose their job if sent to jail.
 
2013-04-23 10:10:47 AM  
Of course not, subby.

Consequences and accountability are for the little people.  The civilians.

Police officers are above the law.  That's the whole point.
 
2013-04-23 10:11:04 AM  
Sounds about right for the American legal system, I would have expected the Obvious tag.
 
2013-04-23 10:11:32 AM  
Looks like last week's Fark Cop Love Fest is officially over.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:33 AM  

ZAZ: Under federal sentencing guidelines losing your job as a police officer is not grounds to get a lower sentence. The Supreme Court decided that in one of the Rodney King cases.


That would be Koon v United States. Which means this stupid as shiat judge totally disregarded the decision and ruling of a higher court in letting this officer go without sentencing.

You hear that, Judge Frederick Maguire? You're too stupid to even hold that position on the bench.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:39 AM  
I think the county is also afraid that any arrest this detective  might have been involved with would immediately be appealed.  This happened by me after a cop was busted with pain killers.  Cases he had started to get dismissed almost immediately.
 
2013-04-23 10:12:48 AM  

labman: Hey, what is that separating the rest of us from cops?  Oh, right, it's a thin blue line.

And cops wonder why they have a bad reputation.  it's because the good ones don't call out the bad ones when they pull shiat like this...



Some good cops do call out bad cops. Remember how well received Chris Dorner was?
 
2013-04-23 10:13:15 AM  
As a matter of course, drivers involved in fatal accidents, or accidents were there are serious injuries, are required to have blood drawn to check for drugs or alcohol.....except when they are cops.  http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ssf/2013/04/off-duty_jersey_cit y _cop_hits.html#incart_river
 
2013-04-23 10:14:12 AM  

labman: Hey, what is that separating the rest of us from cops?  Oh, right, it's a thin blue line.

And cops wonder why they have a bad reputation.  it's because the good ones don't call out the bad ones when they pull shiat like this...


NO shiat.

That is the worst thing. Whenever a bad cop does something, ALL of the other cops stand by him and lobby for non-punishment.

You would NEVER see any other profession try to pull this shiat. "We should be able to break the law because our job is stressful and tough" said the Nurses' Union, never.

You'd think it would make every cop's job easier if the asshat cops were summarily expelled from the ranks, but hey, I guess they want to brag about how tough their job is, so they make it tougher by keeping the liabilities on staff.
 
2013-04-23 10:18:56 AM  
www.4dca.org

I can wad your life up and throw it away.

www.policemag.com

I can kill you and get away with it.

We look out for each other.

Not you.
 
2013-04-23 10:20:10 AM  
 
2013-04-23 10:33:15 AM  
Life in the United States becomes a lot easier when you finally realize that those who make the laws, enforce them, and adjucate them are all above such laws.

Just give up, people. Otherwise you might get mad enough to do something radical like buying pressure cookers....
 
2013-04-23 10:34:27 AM  
Way to set a good example for the rest of us.
 
2013-04-23 10:38:55 AM  
Ah, the careful application of judicial discretion.

Remember kids: Judges are just people, and most people are assholes.
 
2013-04-23 10:39:02 AM  
Most other people would also lose their jobs.  So farking what?

Dumbass judge set himself up for some real problems of sentencing appeals for future DUI cases - anyone can get out of jail time now, or accuse him of not providing due process and violating the 14th Amendment.
 
2013-04-23 10:42:38 AM  
I think our  legal rock-paper-scissors system is broken.

/Judge beats public. Cop beats public. Judge and cop high-five each other.
 
2013-04-23 10:42:50 AM  
FTA:  The 11-year veteran of the SDPD was ordered to five years probation including DUI classes and 25 days of public work service.

Umm, isn't that pretty standard for a first-time offense? I know a few people that have had a DUI and none of them served jail time. Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?
 
2013-04-23 10:47:11 AM  

lilbjorn: I want equal protection under the law.


TIme to join the police academy then.
 
2013-04-23 10:48:23 AM  

Keeve: Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?


Yes, you should.
 
2013-04-23 10:51:05 AM  
This judge should be removed from the bench and be subject to a judicial review board. All officers whose responsibility to have the alleged drunk driver detective's blood drawn in a timely manner should be  removed from duty.  Did the DUI suspect pay for the damages to the city owned vehicle? Police and other government employees must obey the same laws the general public does.
 
2013-04-23 10:53:10 AM  

Keeve: FTA:  The 11-year veteran of the SDPD was ordered to five years probation including DUI classes and 25 days of public work service.

Umm, isn't that pretty standard for a first-time offense? I know a few people that have had a DUI and none of them served jail time. Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?


Did these other peoples arrest also include an accident with property damage?  Traveling at 30 mph over posted limit?
 
2013-04-23 10:54:30 AM  

Keeve: FTA:  The 11-year veteran of the SDPD was ordered to five years probation including DUI classes and 25 days of public work service.

Umm, isn't that pretty standard for a first-time offense? I know a few people that have had a DUI and none of them served jail time. Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?


Standard does not apply to police, the judge knew that office procedures would have resulted in this guy getting fired. That is not really hate it is dept rules.
 
2013-04-23 11:03:52 AM  

labman: Hey, what is that separating the rest of us from cops?  Oh, right, it's a thin blue line.


You just hate bluh people.
 
2013-04-23 11:09:48 AM  
Irrefutable proof that it is indeed "us vs. them" in their view. And exactly whose side the judges are on.
 
2013-04-23 11:13:27 AM  

Keeve: Umm, isn't that pretty standard for a first-time offense? I know a few people that have had a DUI and none of them served jail time. Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?


In California, there is a mandatory minimum jail time for a first conviction.

Only for little people, of course.

Also, a civilian with a conviction is nearly guaranteed to lose his job as well.
 
2013-04-23 11:22:08 AM  
Wow. I'm shocked. Just, um, totally shocked.
 
2013-04-23 11:23:26 AM  

fnordfocus: Keeve: Umm, isn't that pretty standard for a first-time offense? I know a few people that have had a DUI and none of them served jail time. Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?

In California, there is a mandatory minimum jail time for a first conviction.

Only for little people, of course.



Not true.  You will get credit for the time spent in the holding cell  (10 to 12 hrs) and then they will suspend the jail time if you complete the DUI program in time.

Picked up a DUI last year.
 
2013-04-23 11:40:43 AM  
vudutek:  I'd like to see this "I need to keep my job" used as a sentencing guideline in any future case of anyone that may face jail time for DUI. Precedent has now been set, so I say go for it.
    
Oldiron_79:  What would happen if an average schmuck tried using this defense?
    
Crewmannumber6:  Why don't people keep track of shiat like this and use it as precedent for regular people later on?

I like to see this happen in a case under this same judge just to if he'll go against his own precedence.
 
2013-04-23 11:41:08 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Of course not, subby.

Consequences and accountability are for the little people.  The civilians.

Police officers are above the law.  That's the whole point.

 encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

/ seems appropriate for this
 
2013-04-23 11:42:24 AM  
wondering if the cop let the judge go from drunk driving and the judge is trying to return the favor
 
2013-04-23 11:45:18 AM  
A double standard bears no equality of justice.
 
2013-04-23 11:55:41 AM  
It's a case of credibility, even when guilty of DUI the cops have it and you don't.
 
2013-04-23 12:06:55 PM  
Call his clerk and tell him how you feel!

http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/portal/about/depts/sd53.html
Location:Main Courthouse FIFTH FLOOR 220 W. Broadway San Diego, CA 92101
Assigned:FREDERICK MAGUIRE Judge
Case Types:Criminal
Clerk:JANET MORSE  619-450-5053 (courtroom)
 
2013-04-23 12:07:29 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: fnordfocus: Keeve: Umm, isn't that pretty standard for a first-time offense? I know a few people that have had a DUI and none of them served jail time. Or should I ignore that fact and jump on the cop-hating band wagon and suggest that this is somehow an indicator of the end of the world?

In California, there is a mandatory minimum jail time for a first conviction.

Only for little people, of course.


Not true.  You will get credit for the time spent in the holding cell  (10 to 12 hrs) and then they will suspend the jail time if you complete the DUI program in time.

Picked up a DUI last year.


  And considering the overcrowding problems California has in its jails and prisons already, even with a jail sentence he'd be out with in a day or two.  For a first offense with no one injured, the amount of probation and community service time plus DUI classes seems appropriate, especially as he plead guilty. If he does basically anything wrong in the next 5 years, he could end up in jail for a probation violation.
  As for whether or not he should be fired anyway, that's up to the SDPD.

/of course, here in Wisconsin, there's no mandatory jail until your 2nd offense unless you hit someone or there's a minor in the car.
 
2013-04-23 12:26:42 PM  

GoldSpider: Looks like last week's Fark Cop Love Fest is officially over.


No. It was just cop lovers coming out from hiding.
The cop hate was just being set aside while the tragedy unfolded.
 
2013-04-23 12:28:49 PM  
heyheyjery: Call his clerk and tell him how you feel!

 Location: XXXXXXXAssigned:
FREDERICK MAGUIRE Judge

 Case Types:Criminal
Clerk: XXXXXXX


Oh my. Since this post is likely to disappear, allow me to take the liberty of reposting it in such a way that it isn't a violation of Fark posting rules:

Hey everyone, for those who might be interested in voicing their concerns, here is a link to information about his court:

http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/portal/about/depts/sd53.html
 
2013-04-23 12:33:43 PM  
and they wonder why we have no respect for rule of law anymore

one law for them and a separate one for us,

any one of you gets a DUI you face a good chance of being fired anyways. do it in a company vehicle and it's guaranteed.

you'll be hounded for the rest of your life over that one mistake and depending on your wealth likely face a rather serious amount of debt in the form of fines stacked as high as they can

THIS ASSHOLE SHOULD FACE THE MAXIMUM FORCE OF THE LAW,
otherwise, from where do we justify their alleged higher standard, so worthy of unquestionable respect and submission?
 
2013-04-23 12:44:03 PM  

khyberkitsune: ZAZ: Under federal sentencing guidelines losing your job as a police officer is not grounds to get a lower sentence. The Supreme Court decided that in one of the Rodney King cases.

That would be Koon v United States. Which means this stupid as shiat judge totally disregarded the decision and ruling of a higher court in letting this officer go without sentencing.

You hear that, Judge Frederick Maguire? You're too stupid to even hold that position on the bench.


I didn't know this was a federal case with federal sentencing guidelines.

/has never heard of a federal dui conviction
 
2013-04-23 12:48:21 PM  
I'm not anti-cop as much as I'm anti-abuse of force, abuse of civil liberties, etc.  While many of you are complaining about favoritism and the Thin Blue Line, I can tell you firsthand that the treatment that this cop received is not unheard of for those that need to drive for a living.

Years ago when I was a LEO, I arrested a woman that was involved in a drunk driving accident.  She blew a .28...and because she happened to be a school bus driver for the city, she was not ordered any jail time and was given probation (first offense) as well as court-ordered treatment.  This woman was a stone-cold alcoholic (was at a run at her house a month earlier for a domestic where she was so drunk she could barely stand).  I had a similar incident with a truck driver who wrecked his car (single car accident).  In both cases, it was their first offense .neither I nor the prosecutor disagreed with no jail  plus probation and mandatory alcohol treatment.

While I certainly don't want someone driving drunk, I also don't want to ruin their livelihood and give them a chance to clean up.   Judges and prosecutors are also sympathetic so long as they haven't hurt or killed anyone. If they drive drunk again, throw the book at them....but most people deserve a chance to clean up.  Besides, someone that can't work, can't pay fines.

We had a cop that showed up to work in uniform and drunk.  He had a history of alcoholism but had been sober for a couple years.  When the LT called the alcohol enforcement car back in right after the shift started...we heard when we got back that he was drunk again.  He wasn't fired...he went to rehab again and was back on the job after a couple months.  I don't know what set him off drinking that day, but with any alcoholic...you never now.  Cops have a high alcoholism rate for a reason...it's a crappy job which is why I quit after 2 years.  It's hard to see futility, pain and suffering every day.   I'd be an alcoholic or would have swallowed my gun.
 
2013-04-23 12:54:49 PM  

potterydove: khyberkitsune: ZAZ: Under federal sentencing guidelines losing your job as a police officer is not grounds to get a lower sentence. The Supreme Court decided that in one of the Rodney King cases.

That would be Koon v United States. Which means this stupid as shiat judge totally disregarded the decision and ruling of a higher court in letting this officer go without sentencing.

You hear that, Judge Frederick Maguire? You're too stupid to even hold that position on the bench.

I didn't know this was a federal case with federal sentencing guidelines.

/has never heard of a federal dui conviction


Federal case has precedent over just about anything, and the ruling is applicable down the line.

Same way if the USSC ruled Prop 8 unconstitutional, that pretty much binds any other state from enacting any similar law or making a ruling contrary to that decision, and it holds in all courts down the line.

It doesn't have to be a federal case. Precedent from federal court (a higher court than state) dictates this equal treatment and protection under the law, plus it's kinda written into our constitution.
 
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