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(Toronto Sun)   US Customs wants Canadians to pay a cover charge to get into a place full of rude, self-centered people where the beer is crappier and more expensive than what they have at home. Agents to be renamed bouncers   (torontosun.com) divider line 94
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2013-04-23 08:48:00 AM  
Mr. Canuckian, if you want to enjoy the greatness that is the U. S. of A., you should be more than willing, no, you should feel honored to pay for the privilege to visit the greatest nation on Earth.
 
2013-04-23 09:11:12 AM  
Well, good to see the US is working on the perception that it is an unfriendly country to visit. We certainly don't need any tourist dollars floating around in our awesome economy.
 
2013-04-23 09:17:04 AM  

WorldCitizen: Well, good to see the US is working on the perception that it is an unfriendly country to visit. We certainly don't need any tourist dollars floating around in our awesome economy.


There are entire communities based around the outlet malls near the border. Now if we could just fix our broken-ass tariff and duty system, that would be a good thing to focus on.
 
2013-04-23 09:40:49 AM  
Uhhh subby. Canadian beer is generally overpriced and doesn't stand out as particularly good in general.

Oregon should charge California.
 
2013-04-23 09:41:12 AM  
American beer crappier than Canadian beer? Wow man that's just...wow. really, there are no words to describe the stupidity of that comment.
 
2013-04-23 09:42:51 AM  
I will not weigh in on whose domestic beer is crappier but beer bought in Canucistan is way way more expensive.
 
2013-04-23 09:43:20 AM  
Further proof that the U.S.A. is the greediest Nation on the planet.   Bar none.   Pathetic.  charge Canadians to come over here to spend their money.


wow,  that shocks me and i've been here a long time.
 
2013-04-23 09:43:59 AM  
So, like ten bucks a vehicle to cover re-roofing the guard huts and shiat, like the bridge tolls in many major cities?

Or, like, a hundred bucks or something similar to a plane ticket?

Because the first one wouldn't be that big a deal, honestly.
 
2013-04-23 09:44:02 AM  
Gah. If anything, I'd like to see the border restrictions with Canada  relaxed. It'd be nice to have a North American equivalent to the Schengen Area (the group of European countries that have eliminated passport/border controls at their common borders) between the US and Canada -- things used to be like that and it wasn't a big deal.

I'd love it if the US, Canada, and the Schengen Area had some transatlantic agreement that would ease the movement of goods and people between them, though that's probably not going to happen ever.
 
2013-04-23 09:45:18 AM  
Beer is better (with the wide selection of micro-brews) and cheaper in the US.
 
2013-04-23 09:45:32 AM  
So for every dollar pulled in how many hundreds will be lost in cross border shopping revenue?
 
2013-04-23 09:45:56 AM  
Too bad their hockey teams aren't allowed to bring the Cup back with them across the border.

/yeah, I know...like 80% of players on NHL are teams are Canadian.
 
2013-04-23 09:46:18 AM  
is their any way i can pay a fee to canada to come up there and live the rest of my life???
 
2013-04-23 09:46:55 AM  

WorldCitizen: Well, good to see the US is working on the perception that it is an unfriendly country to visit. We certainly don't need any tourist dollars floating around in our awesome economy.



lol    tourist dollars destroy Freedom!!
 
2013-04-23 09:47:44 AM  

Moosecakes: American beer crappier than Canadian beer? Wow man that's just...wow. really, there are no words to describe the stupidity of that comment.



be smart and use SKYY Vodka.  Congener Free!
 
2013-04-23 09:48:25 AM  
They breed terrorists up there. Can't trust them. Shut down everything. Shoot anyone that moves
 
2013-04-23 09:53:41 AM  
Altogether now: how many of the 9/11 perps entered the US through Canada?
 
2013-04-23 09:54:33 AM  
A fee like what I have to pay to cross over from International Falls to Fort Frances and back?
 
2013-04-23 09:59:03 AM  
France?
 
2013-04-23 10:01:10 AM  
I work in a business that ships products to customers, and guess what Canadians do all the time?  Ship their stuff to mailboxes in the US, drive over and pick up their stuff so they don't have to pay their high-as-fark Canadian taxes and duties(while enjoying the benefits).

If you want to wear out our infrastructure to dodge your taxes, don't be mad that you have to share in the expense.
 
2013-04-23 10:02:28 AM  
Did the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act help or hurt? anyone, anyone

making it harder to do business might be good for DHS but it wouldn't help the economies near the border.
 
2013-04-23 10:02:43 AM  
Utterly stupid.
 
2013-04-23 10:02:50 AM  
Having lived in both countries, my observation has been that the vast majority of beer that comes from the other side of the border is the mass-produced, generic, unimpressive crap.  Both countries have absolutely fantastic brews but they're quite hard to find outside of where they're brewed.  As a result, each country ends up thinking that the other brews garbage, and understandably so.

/YMMV
 
2013-04-23 10:03:28 AM  
Well, since the Canadians hold their bankers on a much shorter leash, they have more money.

And, they've already proven they can pay what they owe; of course we'll try and squeeze them for more.

It's not like our citizens pay their taxes, after all.
 
2013-04-23 10:06:59 AM  
Plenty of countries have an entry or exit "visa fee", often about $10 or $20 per person.  Then again, most countries with those fees apply them equally to all foreigners at all ports of entry, and don't levy them specifically on one single nationality.
 
2013-04-23 10:07:39 AM  
Maybe Customs could try that trick on our southern border. Assessing them a fee will surely cut down on the number of illegal visitors from the south.
 
2013-04-23 10:15:01 AM  

djRykoSuave: Uhhh subby. Canadian beer is generally overpriced and doesn't stand out as particularly good in general.

Oregon should charge California.


Like most American beer as well, but

This is all I need to know of Canadian beer, and it works fine for me.
 
2013-04-23 10:16:33 AM  

Moosecakes: American beer crappier than Canadian beer? Wow man that's just...wow. really, there are no words to describe the stupidity of that comment.


Unibroue. Fin Du Monde.

That is all.
 
2013-04-23 10:19:59 AM  

aagrajag: Moosecakes: American beer crappier than Canadian beer? Wow man that's just...wow. really, there are no words to describe the stupidity of that comment.

Unibroue. Fin Du Monde.

That is all.


Don't forget Maudite, Raftman, Trois Pistoles, Terrible.  The only thing I have not liked form them was Quelque Chose, but it maybe that the bottle was worked and was flat and farggin real nasty.  Need to try it again sometime.
 
2013-04-23 10:20:45 AM  
Bottle was corked, not worked...
 
2013-04-23 10:23:32 AM  

wingnut396: aagrajag: Moosecakes: American beer crappier than Canadian beer? Wow man that's just...wow. really, there are no words to describe the stupidity of that comment.

Unibroue. Fin Du Monde.

That is all.

Don't forget Maudite, Raftman, Trois Pistoles, Terrible.  The only thing I have not liked form them was Quelque Chose, but it maybe that the bottle was worked and was flat and farggin real nasty.  Need to try it again sometime.


Almost anything from Unibroue is awesome. I don't think they make it anymore, but they used to have this stuff callled Seigneurial Blonde. Bloody amazing, that stuff was.
 
2013-04-23 10:28:01 AM  

heypete: Gah. If anything, I'd like to see the border restrictions with Canada  relaxed. It'd be nice to have a North American equivalent to the Schengen Area (the group of European countries that have eliminated passport/border controls at their common borders) between the US and Canada -- things used to be like that and it wasn't a big deal.

I'd love it if the US, Canada, and the Schengen Area had some transatlantic agreement that would ease the movement of goods and people between them, though that's probably not going to happen ever.


Yeah, I totally agree. I think the US-Canadian border should basically be an open border. The only thing our two countries border together is water and Mexico, so joint security could be done under something like we already do NORAD. Then having Canada and the US together in some sort of more open trade/movement agreements with the EU would also be helpful. I would then also include Australia and New Zealand in that.  Developed, democratic Western nations need to be moving together rather than apart as our influence around the globe is reduced just by the rise of the rest.
 
2013-04-23 10:29:57 AM  
This hasn't happened yet, so we should be calm and rational about it like the folks responding directly to TFA.
 
2013-04-23 10:32:13 AM  
beerstreetjournal.com

Your argument about crappier beer is invalid
 
2013-04-23 10:35:35 AM  
The macrobews aren't really American beers anymore. Budweiser is owned by a Brazilian company, Miller by a British one, and Coors by of all things a Canadian company.  Bud and Coors even changed their recipes to use rice instead of corn.

So the only American breweries left are the craft brew ones, with Sam Adams and Yuengling being the largest.
 
2013-04-23 10:44:23 AM  

WorldCitizen: The only thing our two countries border together is water and Mexico


True, but Europe is pretty darn close.  In fact,  France is only 12 miles off the coast of Canada.
 
2013-04-23 10:49:59 AM  

WorldCitizen: Yeah, I totally agree. I think the US-Canadian border should basically be an open border. The only thing our two countries border together is water and Mexico, so joint security could be done under something like we already do NORAD. Then having Canada and the US together in some sort of more open trade/movement agreements with the EU would also be helpful. I would then also include Australia and New Zealand in that.  Developed, democratic Western nations need to be moving together rather than apart as our influence around the globe is reduced just by the rise of the rest.


While I am confident most Americans would go along with this plan, I bet you'd have a difficult time convincing Canadians. Not to mention the Kiwis and Ozians.
 
2013-04-23 10:50:05 AM  
About the beer... Subby hasn't been to America since 1988 apparently.
 
2013-04-23 11:08:01 AM  
Just think of it as a protection fee.
 
2013-04-23 11:25:56 AM  

odinsposse: The macrobews aren't really American beers anymore. Budweiser is owned by a Brazilian company, Miller by a British one, and Coors by of all things a Canadian company.  Bud and Coors even changed their recipes to use rice instead of corn.

So the only American breweries left are the craft brew ones, with Sam Adams and Yuengling being the largest.


Well, Belgian-Brazillian in the first case. And Coors merged with Molson, Molson didn't buy Coors. In fact Coors was the larger of the two companies.
 
2013-04-23 11:35:06 AM  

Linux_Yes: Further proof that the U.S.A. is the greediest Nation on the planet.   Bar none.   Pathetic.  charge Canadians to come over here to spend their money.


wow,  that shocks me and i've been here a long time.


thats because you are simpleton
 
2013-04-23 11:52:55 AM  

THX 1138: Having lived in both countries, my observation has been that the vast majority of beer that comes from the other side of the border is the mass-produced, generic, unimpressive crap.  Both countries have absolutely fantastic brews but they're quite hard to find outside of where they're brewed.  As a result, each country ends up thinking that the other brews garbage, and understandably so.

/YMMV


Yeah, this used to be the case, but when I can go down to a Shell/Texaco gas station and get a growler filled with Founders, Six Point, Stone, Oskar Blues, etc. in a Georgia suburb, then I'd say this old assumption needs to be re-thought because things have changed considerably.

The good beer is out there and available, albeit a little pricey, it's just personal taste (or lack thereof) that drives consumption.
 
2013-04-23 11:56:03 AM  
media.npr.org

Yes, Canada has a beer made from the water of melted icebergs, eh.
 
2013-04-23 12:01:47 PM  

dr.zaeus: Yeah, this used to be the case, but when I can go down to a Shell/Texaco gas station and get a growler filled with Founders, Six Point, Stone, Oskar Blues, etc. in a Georgia suburb, then I'd say this old assumption needs to be re-thought because things have changed considerably.


I think I worded my original post badly.  I meant the Canadian beers that are most commonly seen in the USA and American beers that are most ubiquitous in Canada.  My bad.
 
2013-04-23 12:17:43 PM  

THX 1138: dr.zaeus: Yeah, this used to be the case, but when I can go down to a Shell/Texaco gas station and get a growler filled with Founders, Six Point, Stone, Oskar Blues, etc. in a Georgia suburb, then I'd say this old assumption needs to be re-thought because things have changed considerably.

I think I worded my original post badly.  I meant the Canadian beers that are most commonly seen in the USA and American beers that are most ubiquitous in Canada.  My bad.


Actually, around lunchtime I start dreaming about beer and it clouds my judgment, now I see what you were saying.
 
2013-04-23 12:28:11 PM  
The beer is crappier and more expensive? Surely you jest.
 
2013-04-23 12:38:05 PM  
Dear America,

I really like some of the people who live in your country, and some of the places are wonderful to visit.  Its always culturally eye opening to see both herp and derp on display in your fine country.  On my last trip a gentleman kindly informed me that healthcare in my country was worse than in Africa, because of Communism??  I wasn't really clear on the details of why I was a communist, (as a moderately successful business owner ), and I am certain that this fellow knew more about my country than I did.  In spite of that charming discussion I genuinely enjoy some people and some parts of America.

Due to the recent invention of air travel,  my possible vacation destinations have expanded in the last 70 years.  Perhaps your great nation didn't know this.   Its not the dollar amount so much as the attitude. You don't even regularly broadcast the NHL playoffs for heavens sake, and while there are some exceptionally beautiful women there.... you know....  Florida.

So, I hope you'll understand that I will vacation exclusively in Cuba from now on, not because its better, just because I can.  If you freedom loving Americans care to join me you can.  Just book a flight to Canada, then book a flight to Cuba.  We can even waive your "visiting Canada" surcharge.

Sincerely,

A Canadian.
 
2013-04-23 12:39:39 PM  
The money would be used to bolster security spending, but it's not clear how much would be charged.

Fark that We already spend enough of our budge on "security spending." Cut the f*cking military. Raise taxes on the rich.

Insulting some of the coolest neighbors on the planet is not an option.
 
2013-04-23 01:17:45 PM  
It's one thing to throw out decades of allowing anyone to cross an undefended border with nothing.more than photo ID in the name of your security.

It's another thing to make everyone else pay for your paranoia. If America wants to spend billions on Homeland Security, let Americans pay for it and not honest canadians. Or Americans returning from Canada.
 
2013-04-23 01:22:06 PM  
Meh, I'm not too concerned, those who frequently travel to the US and need to go will deal with it, those that don't, won't. I haven't been to the States in a decade, mainly due to the new rules on border crossing.
 
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