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(Huffington Post)   'Over 70 percent of America's 64 previous mass shooters were white American men. But no one asked why White Americans or Christian Americans were not aggressively condemning these acts of terror.' Seriously, wtf is up with white people   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 359
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2013-04-23 08:06:50 AM
I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.
 
2013-04-23 08:28:40 AM
Eh, I don't live in an echo chamber, I hear people wondering what the fark is wrong with Christians all the time.
 
2013-04-23 08:29:18 AM
If the shootings were racially or religiously motivated, author might have a point.
 
2013-04-23 08:29:46 AM
Who's not condemning them?  They're actively calling for death penalty for them.

Bring it back!  Less hung juries and more hung defendants!
 
2013-04-23 08:30:17 AM
some of y'all white folk still sad that the Boston bombers weren't WASPs from the tea party. why don't you get a life?

/ self loathing white people this is an outrage? stahp it!
 
2013-04-23 08:30:22 AM

Jim_Callahan: Eh, I don't live in an echo chamber, I hear people wondering what the fark is wrong with Christians all the time.


This.

Also, as white Americans, we don't see other white Americans as "The Other" so the whole tribal demonizing of out groups doesn't come into play.
 
2013-04-23 08:30:29 AM
What were the other 30 percent? And do they represent a corresponding percentage of the population?
 
2013-04-23 08:30:43 AM
I point out that white people are dangerous and insane all the time. It's cool, I'm white.

But hey, who runs the gun lobby? Insane white people. They've got the propaganda apparatus to tamp this stuff down.
 
2013-04-23 08:30:55 AM
In other news, all white Americans are Christian by default, and all of them are devout, pious and take their holy book literally.
 
2013-04-23 08:30:55 AM

MacEnvy: I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.


Nothing like some good old fashioned hate speech to start a thread.
 
2013-04-23 08:31:04 AM
Most serial killers are homosexuals, someone told me once.
 
2013-04-23 08:31:11 AM
White people are not condemning these acts of terror?
What planet have you been living on? Do you read newspapers? Watch T V?
 
2013-04-23 08:31:29 AM
Is "white American men shooting people" a scandal yet?
 
2013-04-23 08:31:29 AM
How many of the White Christian Americans were shooting based on their faith and how many were shooting based on being a psycho nut job?

How many photos of WCA's can you find celebrating after a terror attack?  (photos of Westboro not accepted because everybody condemns them.)
 
2013-04-23 08:31:32 AM

MacEnvy: I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.


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2013-04-23 08:32:37 AM
From a purely psychoanalytical standpoint due for analysis from any angle you want this whole issue has been a goldmine.
 
2013-04-23 08:32:47 AM

cabbyman: Bring it back! Less hung juries and more hung defendants!


Why do we want more big cocked criminals exactly?
 
2013-04-23 08:32:50 AM
Yeah! Good point! White people are always defending these mass killers
 
2013-04-23 08:32:54 AM

GoldSpider: If the shootings were racially or religiously motivated, author might have a point.


That's way too much critical thinking.

Jim_Callahan: Eh, I don't live in an echo chamber, I hear people wondering what the fark is wrong with Christians all the time.


Pretty much every fark thread about religion is filled with white people criticizing white Christians.  And Bevets.

The article is nonsense (although I agree that moderate Muslims tend to get tuned out by non-Muslim Americans).
 
2013-04-23 08:32:56 AM
If Facebook posts are any indication, 70% is too low of a percentage.
 
2013-04-23 08:33:15 AM
Why is it only the libs that classify white Christians as terrorists?
 
2013-04-23 08:33:53 AM
The guy has a very valid point, but he's failed to take into account that people are fed up with losing their innocent loved ones because "Allah said".
 
2013-04-23 08:33:56 AM

BizarreMan: How many of the White Christian Americans were shooting based on their faith and how many were shooting based on being a psycho nut job?


Not a whole lot of daylight betwixt these things.
 
2013-04-23 08:34:22 AM

Lordserb: MacEnvy: I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.

Nothing like some good old fashioned hate speech to start a thread.


If someone believed in elves, faeries and invisible dragons, would you consider calling them a "deluded moron" hate speech? If not, what about people who believed in Zeus and followed the commands of the Olympians? Is a middle eastern, bronze age storm god really that much different?
 
2013-04-23 08:35:08 AM
White people be all like this.....BUT black people be all like THAT!
 
2013-04-23 08:35:16 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Is a middle eastern, bronze age storm god really that much different?


Oh snap!  Man you are on a roll today!
 
2013-04-23 08:35:30 AM
I don't know any white christian Americans that DIDN'T condemn these asshats. No one ever did a story on it because there is no story there.
 
2013-04-23 08:36:19 AM

GoldSpider: If the shootings were racially or religiously motivated, author might have a point.


The fact that Muslims are already getting harassed over this based on the possibility that it might be religiously-motivated means the author does actually have a point.
 
2013-04-23 08:36:35 AM
What percentage of Americans are white? What percentage of Americans are Muslim? What are the rates of mass shooters per 100,000 of each group? Why are we even comparing the Boston Bombers to mass shooters, instead of terrorists attacks as a whole regardless of weapons used?
 
2013-04-23 08:36:37 AM

markfara: Most serial killers are homosexuals, someone told me once.


Trannies, from what I've read. Victims usually reflective of what body shape or dress they most favor.
 
2013-04-23 08:37:06 AM

snowshovel: Why is it only the libs that classify white Christians as terrorists?


Secular humanists are big in Western nations and so is Christ, so it is natural you would see the general hatred towards Christianity. Eastern religions and most other places in the world do not have secular humanism as a dominant way of thinking.
 
2013-04-23 08:37:16 AM
To be fair, I assumed it was some anti government white person.

/white
 
2013-04-23 08:37:54 AM

markfara: Most serial killers are homosexuals, someone told me once.


Why do all these serial killers keep sucking my cock?
 
2013-04-23 08:38:06 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Lordserb: MacEnvy: I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.

Nothing like some good old fashioned hate speech to start a thread.

If someone believed in elves, faeries and invisible dragons, would you consider calling them a "deluded moron" hate speech? If not, what about people who believed in Zeus and followed the commands of the Olympians? Is a middle eastern, bronze age storm god really that much different?


Look, I know this is hard to believe but sometimes people have to believe in something.

I know that I, personally, have a strong commitment and faith to believing in life after love. I hear something inside me say "I really don't think I'm strong enough," but that's sort of the point of faith.
 
2013-04-23 08:39:49 AM

GoldSpider: If the shootings were racially or religiously motivated, author might have a point.


The theoretical affiliation for the Boston bombers (derived from their known associates) was Chechnyan rebels.  Those groups are only incidentally muslim, they have a secular political agenda that sometimes references moral principles from religion but isn't itself religious.

So... this bombing likely wasn't religiously motivated either, at least as far as the info released so far is concerned.  Anti-US nationalism is its own thing, we're a big target and have more than one self-declared enemy at any given time.  So it is kind of even sillier than usual that anyone would expect muslims in general to apologize for these asshats.
 
2013-04-23 08:40:10 AM

JollyMagistrate: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Lordserb: MacEnvy: I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.

Nothing like some good old fashioned hate speech to start a thread.

If someone believed in elves, faeries and invisible dragons, would you consider calling them a "deluded moron" hate speech? If not, what about people who believed in Zeus and followed the commands of the Olympians? Is a middle eastern, bronze age storm god really that much different?

Look, I know this is hard to believe but sometimes people have to believe in something.

I know that I, personally, have a strong commitment and faith to believing in life after love. I hear something inside me say "I really don't think I'm strong enough," but that's sort of the point of faith.


You rotten creep. Now I'll have that stuck in my head all day.
 
2013-04-23 08:40:25 AM

Son of Thunder: The fact that Muslims are already getting harassed over this based on the possibility that it might be religiously-motivated means the author does actually have a point.


FTFA:  "And this is why I am unsure if people hear Muslims when Muslims declare -- in response to every violent act or attempt at violence -- that Islam condemns all forms of religious violence and terrorism."

Evidently, Muslims don't hear Muslims either.
 
2013-04-23 08:40:52 AM
The reason is because gang violence isn't classified as a mass shooting, even if more than 4 people are shot.  Hence, most mass shootings committed by blacks are classified as gang violence and not counted toward subby's statistics.
 
2013-04-23 08:40:58 AM

BizarreMan: How many of the White Christian Americans were shooting based on their faith and how many were shooting based on being a psycho nut job?

How many photos of WCA's can you find celebrating after a terror attack?  (photos of Westboro not accepted because everybody condemns them.)


Couldn't that be the same said about almost anyone, regardless of race, religion, etc. Being a pyscho nut job is typically the cause behind it and these social, racial, religious, moral questions are a reasoning to explain their own bahaviour.
 
2013-04-23 08:40:59 AM

WhippingBoy: The guy has a very valid point, but he's failed to take into account that people are fed up with losing their innocent loved ones because "Allah said".


People are pretty much fed up of anything that is only justified by "[my deity] said".
 
2013-04-23 08:41:21 AM
Seriously, someone is asking this question? WTH? How many of those "Christian" shooters did their shootings in the name of Christianity? C'mon, how many? About zero? And the Muslim shooters--yeah, I thought so. Stop saying that "judging" the Muslim shooters as Muslims is being unfair. They do it in the name of their religion, so, yes, that deserves to be an item of note. Idiots.
 
2013-04-23 08:42:25 AM

Jim_Callahan: The theoretical affiliation for the Boston bombers (derived from their known associates) was Chechnyan rebels. Those groups are only incidentally muslim, they have a secular political agenda that sometimes references moral principles from religion but isn't itself religious.


Except the surviving bombing suspect  confirmed that the attack was, in fact, religiously motivated.
 
2013-04-23 08:43:03 AM
Having around 70% of the shooters being white makes sense subby, thats around how many people in the country are white.
 
2013-04-23 08:43:04 AM
This thread should be derptastic, finally trailing off into two people trading insults
 
2013-04-23 08:43:28 AM
If we were to bring this into perspective it would read like this, over 70% of the population is white so it would make sense that the % would be over 70% of mass shooters would be white...see how that works? Now if we were to count over all shootings I bet 90% were done by another % of the population.
 
2013-04-23 08:43:28 AM
I'd like to see a major sports stadium give away bobble head Jesus AND bobble head Mohameds dressed in team uniforms and see which group of religious nuts gets all boycotty about it and which gets all bomby about it .
 
2013-04-23 08:43:56 AM

houginator: What percentage of Americans are white? What percentage of Americans are Muslim? What are the rates of mass shooters per 100,000 of each group? Why are we even comparing the Boston Bombers to mass shooters, instead of terrorists attacks as a whole regardless of weapons used?


Apparently we're not allowed to label mass shooters as terrorists. Someone paid a lot of cash for that exemption.
 
2013-04-23 08:44:47 AM
Plenty of white people condemned the Boston bombers.
They were white.

WTF is with stupid headlines?

Besides, go read the Pew reports about Muslim attitudes towards jihad and terrorists.
 
2013-04-23 08:45:08 AM

PanicMan: People are pretty much fed up of anything that is only justified by "[my deity] said".


Much the same as people are fed up with hostility directed to believers any time there's a chance to.
 
2013-04-23 08:45:34 AM

Lordserb: MacEnvy: I ask that all the time. Especially in regard to gay issues. Sounds like this guy needs to stop complaining and dividing the world into "us" and "them", and realize that anyone with an imaginary friend in the sky is a dangerous, deluded moron.

Nothing like some good old fashioned hate speech to start a thread.


Hate? I'd say common sense. I suspect anyone that has more respect for an invisible sky wizard than for actual people.
 
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