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(Salon)   Wasn't Islam. Wasn't Islam. Wasn't Islam. ... Was Islam. That was easy   (salon.com) divider line 61
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2013-04-23 08:46:50 AM  
14 votes:
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2013-04-23 08:25:26 AM  
5 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: Convert or die.




I won't do it, I won't covert to Christianity.
2013-04-23 11:22:56 AM  
4 votes:
He should have said it was to impress Jodie Foster.
2013-04-23 10:04:06 AM  
4 votes:
So in order to defend your faith from attack, you decide the best course of action would be to kill innocent civilians, virtually guaranteeing a negative reaction and increased suspicion directed towards your faith?

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crow202.org

When this guy said he didn't understand Americans, he really wasn't joking.
2013-04-23 10:24:51 AM  
3 votes:
He was charged Monday with "using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction."

Really?  Is he a wizard?  The law of conservation of mass says that mass cannot be destroyed.
2013-04-23 10:18:52 AM  
3 votes:

Nana's Vibrator: That settles it.  If Islam didn't exist, these guys would be law abiding angels.


You're removing a gigantic variable from the equation of world history and pretending there's no way it would have made a difference.

These guys might not have even been BORN if Islam didn't exist.  The removal of Islam from history could create a major paradox, destroying life as we know it.  If we were lucky, the damage would only be limited to this solar system.

Start thinking 4th-dimensionally.
2013-04-23 08:58:11 AM  
3 votes:

UNC_Samurai: I'm totally cool with Quakers.




I don't trust the Quakers: they gave us Nixon.
2013-04-23 12:36:39 PM  
2 votes:
i35.tinypic.com

I'm pretty sure he's one of the Jonas brothers.
2013-04-23 12:25:27 PM  
2 votes:

Deep Contact: balthan: Ok, Islam is the problem.  Now what?  Given that freedom of religion is a Constitutionally protected right, what would you have the government do?

Any religion ending with an "m" is outlawed.


Like "Atheism"?
/ducks, runs away.
2013-04-23 11:20:04 AM  
2 votes:
Because those marathon runners were just destroying Islam. There wasn't going to be any left if the race had concluded without bombs going off!
2013-04-23 11:07:33 AM  
2 votes:
So guns for all but ban Islam?
2013-04-23 10:52:06 AM  
2 votes:

xria: another cultural observer:


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Oh GOD!  Stop it you guys.  My family's disappearing!  And I'm starting to shake!
2013-04-24 01:00:50 AM  
1 votes:
Christianity is the true religion of peace.

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2013-04-23 11:44:35 PM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: rufus-t-firefly: The Tsarnaev brothers are representative of Muslims...but Fred Phelps isn't representative of Christians.

IT'S MAGIC.

Fred Phelps is universally hated by christians and non christians. Osama bin laden is still reguarded as a martyr and hero by many many muslims.


"Many many" you say?

Well! Then prejudging them must be justified!
2013-04-23 09:31:19 PM  
1 votes:

Frederick: Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jew- they all have their fanatics.

The Zoroastrians though; they seem reasonable.


Reasonable?  They worship a Mazda.  I mean, I drive one myself, but I wouldn't worship it...
2013-04-23 04:13:04 PM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: The Tsarnaev brothers are representative of Muslims...but Fred Phelps isn't representative of Christians.

IT'S MAGIC.


You see, just because more terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims than Christians, that magically makes all Muslims terrorists regardless of all the good they do like thwarting future terror attacks in Canada.

It really makes sense when you don't think about it.
2013-04-23 04:07:55 PM  
1 votes:
The Tsarnaev brothers are representative of Muslims...but Fred Phelps isn't representative of Christians.

IT'S MAGIC.
2013-04-23 03:58:28 PM  
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: MaliFinn: give me doughnuts: No, it means you are a freaking moran who seemingly thinks there are more American males between 18-24 than there are Muslims on the planet.
Your mother must be very ashamed.


No, what I'm saying is if you look at crime in the US - hate crime, violent crime, terrorism, etc. - you won't find muslims dominating the brackets, you will find 18-24 males.  This is a pretty strong indicator that 18-24 males are violent idiots.

And you sound awfully defensive, I wish you well in your battle with adolescence.
2013-04-23 02:16:13 PM  
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: MaliFinn: It wasn't Islam, Islam is an excuse.  It was from a larger, more consistently destructive demographic:

Age 18-24 American males


You're not really good at counting, are you?


Oh, was the older idiot slightly above age 24?  Whatever.  You've avoided the point while being technically correct on the internet.  This means you are a special, intelligent person who is completely unlike everyone else on the internet.  Your mother must be very proud.
2013-04-23 01:59:53 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: [i.imgur.com image 500x333]


Don't disrespect Trailer Park Jesus.

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2013-04-23 01:44:57 PM  
1 votes:
Why am I having trouble believing anything CNN says anymore?
2013-04-23 01:24:07 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-04-23 12:48:16 PM  
1 votes:
doubled99:
A) Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
B) History always repeats itself.

C) No one learns anything, ever.

D) Profit??

D) Prophet??
2013-04-23 12:29:49 PM  
1 votes:

jso2897: Deep Contact: balthan: Ok, Islam is the problem.  Now what?  Given that freedom of religion is a Constitutionally protected right, what would you have the government do?

Any religion ending with an "m" is outlawed.

Like "Atheism"?
/ducks, runs away.


Get back here!!
2013-04-23 12:02:05 PM  
1 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: mamoru: Yeah, but based on this summary of a few sources (specifically cites NPR and the WSJ), the brother basically was to mainstream Islam what Westboro Baptist is to mainstream Christianity. He stood up during a sermon and loudly complained to his imam's suggestion that it was okay celebrate American holidays. He got pissy in a halal meat shop because they were advertising Thanksgiving turkeys.

Just because Islam turned out to be the channel for these idiots' insanity, that doesn't mean all Muslims are insane* and are all coming to kill you. Just sayin', keep some perspective.

*or at least any more insane than your average random member of any other mainstream religion

Basically most people who are a new convert to something, be it religion, vegetarianism, exercise regime.  They go full bore into it as if it's the most wondrous thing since sliced deities.  They want to make sure you know about it, and get all offended if you're not as excited about their epiphany as they are.


That's why I'll never let Mr. Delite get a taste of anal.
2013-04-23 12:00:52 PM  
1 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: Cool.  So, when do we ban Islam?


We need to require extended background checks with a two week waiting period before you can practice Islam. Also, a federal tax on copies of the Qur'an might help...
2013-04-23 11:54:30 AM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Cut out "athletic", and that's me. (I'm broad. And fat.)


Keep beating anorexia, patriot!

I'm in the at-risk group too. I even have Dzhokhar's hair (well, about 2/3 of it left). I've decided to be less friendly and stylish; that should mark me as a loyal American.
2013-04-23 11:37:21 AM  
1 votes:

doubled99: A) Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
B) History always repeats itself.

C) No one learns anything, ever.


D) Profit??
2013-04-23 11:35:39 AM  
1 votes:
A) Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
B) History always repeats itself.

C) No one learns anything, ever.
2013-04-23 11:31:17 AM  
1 votes:

over_and_done: Diogenes: miss diminutive: So in order to defend your faith from attack, you decide the best course of action would be to kill innocent civilians, virtually guaranteeing a negative reaction and increased suspicion directed towards your faith?

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When this guy said he didn't understand Americans, he really wasn't joking.

Put in those terms, yeah, it's silly.

But as an overall strategy used by Al Qaeda, it's worked to a degree.  Sure, you and I can see it's a form of post hoc ergo propter hoc.  But there are many American and Westerners, as well as many Muslims, that believe we are at war with Islam.

Sadly, the people who think that "we are at war with Islam" are too ignorant to understand your fancy book-learnin' words.  In fact, just by typing them, you're automatically the enemy.


Something I find particularly hilarious is when they cite Chamberlane, Churchill, etc., and make pronouncements about "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" - and then propose another round of the Crusades.
Yeah, moron - those who forget history ARE doomed to repeat it.
2013-04-23 11:27:17 AM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Fast Thick Pants: Memo to nuke-em-all Muslim bashers: your new stereotype is a friendly, well-dressed, athletic young white man with an American accent and a slightly larger-than-average nose. There are a lot of 'em out there, so get busy. Please don't shoot any Sikhs this time.

Cut out "athletic", and that's me. (I'm broad. And fat.)

// also browner than most
// European/Jewish by ancestry, agnostic by choice


Listen.  I'm at work.  I don't have time to go to Banana Republic to display my rage and throw things.  Besides, if I miss people and damage the clothes, I'll have to pay for them.  And I refuse to pay their prices.  I'm just going to have to hate someone else.
/Stupid janitors
2013-04-23 11:26:17 AM  
1 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: Cool.  So, when do we ban Islam?


We should ban assault style Islam.  No pistol grips, no flash suppressors, and only 1 Koran per member.  Also, only one pressure cooker per mosque, and then only after background checks.
2013-04-23 11:24:56 AM  
1 votes:
To be fair, if you were just standing around protecting Islam, and thousands of people came running RIGHT AT YOU, you'd be tempted to blow them up too.

How could he possibly have known it was a marathon and not the Inquisition all over again?
2013-04-23 11:23:14 AM  
1 votes:
Oh, so you committed a terrorist act to defend Islam?
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2013-04-23 11:23:01 AM  
1 votes:
FTA:  Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, wounded and held in a Boston hospital, said his brother wanted to defend Islam from attack, according to the source.

Maybe someone should tell them that most Americans never had a problem with Islam, up to the point they started coming to the U.S. and attacking our citizens.   Even when they were attacking our military outside our country's borders, most Americans didn't have too much of a problem with Islam.

Want to defend and improve Islam... STOP ATTACKING AMERICAN CIVILIANS!
2013-04-23 11:21:28 AM  
1 votes:
Any religion which believes it is the One True Way (tm) is going to have conflict with another religion that believes it is the One True Way (tm). Especially so when those religions are proselytizing religions.

Nothing new here.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca
2013-04-23 11:13:29 AM  
1 votes:

Fast Thick Pants: Memo to nuke-em-all Muslim bashers: your new stereotype is a friendly, well-dressed, athletic young white man with an American accent and a slightly larger-than-average nose. There are a lot of 'em out there, so get busy. Please don't shoot any Sikhs this time.


But those guys have scary little knives on their belts. They must be turrists!!
2013-04-23 11:11:55 AM  
1 votes:
Whoa ... Tats is back. And I'm all outta popcorn :(
2013-04-23 11:08:58 AM  
1 votes:
Memo to nuke-em-all Muslim bashers: your new stereotype is a friendly, well-dressed, athletic young white man with an American accent and a slightly larger-than-average nose. There are a lot of 'em out there, so get busy. Please don't shoot any Sikhs this time.
2013-04-23 11:07:13 AM  
1 votes:

brandent: nekom: mamoru: Yeah, but based on this summary of a few sources (specifically cites NPR and the WSJ), the brother basically was to mainstream Islam what Westboro Baptist is to mainstream Christianity. He stood up during a sermon and loudly complained to his imam's suggestion that it was okay celebrate American holidays. He got pissy in a halal meat shop because they were advertising Thanksgiving turkeys.

Just because Islam turned out to be the channel for these idiots' insanity, that doesn't mean all Muslims are insane* and are all coming to kill you. Just sayin', keep some perspective.

*or at least any more insane than your average random member of any other mainstream religion

Good points. I think what we have here is a typical "us vs. them" situation. The "us" and "them" could be anything, really. Religion, politics, skin tone, whatever petty difference they can find. Then it just gets reinforced in some circles. Then it festers in the mind. It becomes an obsession. Every little thing you see in the news is "GRRRRRRRRRRR farking THEM!!!!! GAH! HATE HATE HATE!!! They are NOT US!!! RABBLE!!!" No different than a tea party rally, an ALF meeting, or any other group that perceives everyone else as "the enemy".

The difference between radical violent Christians and radical violent Islamists is simple.  If a person reads the New Testament and adheres strictly to the teachings of Jesus then they would soon come to the conclusion that they are pacifist and probably socialist and defenders of tolerance, love, and inclusion.  If a person reads the teachings of Mohammed and follows them strictly then they would soon come to the conclusion that it is a doctrine of violence and intolerance.


I'm going to go out on a limb an guess you aren't Fluent in writtern Arabic, which tells me you have never read the Koran.   I'm also going to guess that your in-depth study of Islam involves watching TV and movies and listening to the opinions of right-wing columnists, radio show hosts and preachers.  In fact I'm going to double down and guess you've only the slightest passing familiarity with the more-quoted bits of the Bible and are Christian by default, and spend about as much time learning about your relgion on a weekly basis as you devote to nail care.

how close am I?
2013-04-23 11:03:51 AM  
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: Z1P2: Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim.

Actually, most terrorists are environmental activists, according to the FBI


I don't often engage in terrorism, but when I do, it's Environmental Terrorism (tm).
2013-04-23 10:59:51 AM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Apparently, the two other victims of the murders on September 11, 2011 were two Jews that Tamerlan's ex-friend was friends with.

Makes the murder thesis even more plausible


People get murdered every day - does it only matter when they're Jews?
2013-04-23 10:58:37 AM  
1 votes:

JonnyG: It is not Islam Republicans. It's extremism and can happen to anyone in any religion political party... or not in a religion political party.

But if it works for folks...


Hey, Republicans are OK after all.
2013-04-23 10:58:37 AM  
1 votes:

big pig peaches: Pants full of macaroni!!: Cool.  So, when do we ban Islam?

No news to ban it. Just slap a warning label on it.


Fair enough ... let's label them all with descriptions of what is contained inside.

www.atheistmafia.com
2013-04-23 10:57:39 AM  
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: Nana's Vibrator: That settles it.  If Islam didn't exist, these guys would be law abiding angels.

They sure as hell wouldn't have planted a bomb at the Boston Marathon and you're a naive moron if you try to pretend otherwise.


You're absolutely right.  That's why I said they would be law abiding angels if Islam didn't exist.  What?  You think I was being sarcastic?  You think I'm doing the same thing now?
2013-04-23 10:56:02 AM  
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: Nana's Vibrator: That settles it.  If Islam didn't exist, these guys would be law abiding angels.

They sure as hell wouldn't have planted a bomb at the Boston Marathon and you're a naive moron if you try to pretend otherwise.


So what's your plan? A "well informed" , non-naive, brilliant guy like you has a plan, right?
2013-04-23 10:51:18 AM  
1 votes:
I'm not saying it was Islam... but it was Islam.
2013-04-23 10:40:48 AM  
1 votes:
But David Axelrod and CNN told me it was Tea Partiers.  What happened?
2013-04-23 10:36:21 AM  
1 votes:

Magorn: Let me just say this as vaguely as possible.  If what I hear from someone who claims to know the wife of the older brother is true,   then this whole hyper-religious thing with him is a VERY recent development and he was perfectly fine being a decadent American before that.  While Islam was the window dressing for this, it wasn;t the REAL motivation, which, I supect had to do with the older brother suddenly having no farking clue what his life was about after he realized his Olympic dreams were never going to come true.


Quoting this because it's a thing that should be quoted. Something shiatty happened in this guy's life that flipped the switch from good to ear-twitchingly bazoo. Allah was a front-seat passenger on the road to crazy, he picked the radio station but he wasn't driving.
2013-04-23 10:31:59 AM  
1 votes:
Apparently, all it takes to go from average nightclubbing, Boxing, drinking cafeteria muslim to mass murdering nutbird is for someone to make fun of the pom-pom on your hat.
2013-04-23 10:31:43 AM  
1 votes:

bluefox3681: But before we caught them, I remember a salon.com article just hoping that is wasn't muslims.
And then after we caught them, I remember msnbc doing their best to not mention Islam and comparing these guys to the columbine shooters.

Why all the covering for Islam?  Yes, all terrorists are not muslim and all muslims are not terrorists.  However, let's stop going out of our way to make excuses for any extreme ideology.


Because only Christians, whites and gun owners can be denigrated by the media. It's in their handbook.
2013-04-23 10:24:52 AM  
1 votes:

dv-ous: Yeah, sure, blame the dead guy.

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tamerlane?
2013-04-23 10:19:58 AM  
1 votes:

mamoru: Yeah, but based on this summary of a few sources (specifically cites NPR and the WSJ), the brother basically was to mainstream Islam what Westboro Baptist is to mainstream Christianity. He stood up during a sermon and loudly complained to his imam's suggestion that it was okay celebrate American holidays. He got pissy in a halal meat shop because they were advertising Thanksgiving turkeys.

Just because Islam turned out to be the channel for these idiots' insanity, that doesn't mean all Muslims are insane* and are all coming to kill you. Just sayin', keep some perspective.

*or at least any more insane than your average random member of any other mainstream religion


You are unfit for fark. Don't think, just jerk your knees, is the way to go here.
2013-04-23 10:15:44 AM  
1 votes:
Nope. Still think Islam had about as much to do with the plot as to whether or not they were "real 'Murcans".
2013-04-23 10:15:30 AM  
1 votes:
Cool.  So, when do we ban Islam?
2013-04-23 10:14:04 AM  
1 votes:
That settles it.  If Islam didn't exist, these guys would be law abiding angels.
2013-04-23 09:50:42 AM  
1 votes:
2013-04-23 09:48:06 AM  
1 votes:

vpb: Does anyone remember Eric Rudolph?  Seems very similar.


Then one frightful post Boston bombing morn
Anti-Christians came to say
Rudolph with your Christian terrorism
Won't you falsely equate to Islam?

Then all those haters loved him
And they shouted out with glee
Eric Rudolph, you will go down as Christianity's greatest monster!
2013-04-23 08:49:52 AM  
1 votes:
If you want to send a message, shouldn't you...um...send a message?
2013-04-23 08:40:24 AM  
1 votes:

mamoru: Yeah, but based on this summary of a few sources (specifically cites NPR and the WSJ), the brother basically was to mainstream Islam what Westboro Baptist is to mainstream Christianity. He stood up during a sermon and loudly complained to his imam's suggestion that it was okay celebrate American holidays. He got pissy in a halal meat shop because they were advertising Thanksgiving turkeys.

Just because Islam turned out to be the channel for these idiots' insanity, that doesn't mean all Muslims are insane* and are all coming to kill you. Just sayin', keep some perspective.

*or at least any more insane than your average random member of any other mainstream religion


Basically most people who are a new convert to something, be it religion, vegetarianism, exercise regime.  They go full bore into it as if it's the most wondrous thing since sliced deities.  They want to make sure you know about it, and get all offended if you're not as excited about their epiphany as they are.
2013-04-23 08:17:24 AM  
1 votes:
Convert or die.
 
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