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(CNN)   CNN, the network that last week spent more hours being wrong than accurate, suggests that Reddit's sleuthing of the Boston Bombings was flawed   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 32
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2013-04-23 08:40:18 AM
They would know what flawed investigations look like.
 
2013-04-23 08:49:11 AM
It was flawed.
 
2013-04-23 08:50:06 AM
I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?!?!?!?!?!?
www.oldbridgerepublicans.com
 
2013-04-23 08:51:05 AM
fark those assholes. they tormented an innocent family because they saw a brown person. fark them sideeays and upside down.
 
2013-04-23 08:52:41 AM
old media is old
 
2013-04-23 08:52:54 AM
You snark, but I bet they find out those three guys last year were murdered by that guy in the blue jacket holding the bookbag that was obviously very heavy.
 
2013-04-23 09:00:40 AM
The salient facts (in my view):

1. Yeah reddit screwed up
2. "reddit" is a conglomeration of people who frequent a particular website
3. CNN is a corporation with top-down management whose ostensible mission is to report the news
4. The people who run reddit apologized
5. CNN points fingers at reddit

Oh and

6. reddit is Wolf Blitzer-free
 
2013-04-23 09:03:38 AM
This simply means that CNN has now got something right.
 
2013-04-23 09:06:45 AM

willfullyobscure: fark those assholes. they tormented an innocent family because they saw a brown person. fark them sideeays and upside down.


Not to mention the victims families. Despite that little kids family's request to be left alone the media persisted in knocking on the door trying to get someone on camera expressing their grief.
 
2013-04-23 09:09:41 AM
Even MSNBCrap gets it right more than CNN...therefore, disband them both...

/escalated response, I realize.... ;-)
 
2013-04-23 09:10:41 AM

Kibbler: The salient facts (in my view):

1. Yeah reddit screwed up
2. "reddit" is a conglomeration of people who frequent a particular website
3. CNN is a corporation with top-down management whose ostensible mission is to report the news
4. The people who run reddit apologized
5. CNN points fingers at reddit

Oh and

6. reddit is Wolf Blitzer-free


Don't forget reddit's mob mentality.  CNN should have management that prevents the wrong people from getting fingered.

/hopes reddit gets sued
 
2013-04-23 09:16:54 AM
Reminds me of the time when a story was posted about an Eagle Scout who murdered someone just to see if he could get away with it.  Some Farker dug up a forum post by the Eagle Scout's dad bragging about how his son was an Eagle Scout.  And, noting that threads didn't expire on that site, a bunch of Farkers signed up and started posting taunts.

So what reddit did was kind of like that, except much worse and not funny.
 
2013-04-23 09:25:01 AM
Well that's certainly the pot calling the  kettle black!

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-23 09:26:30 AM
When my youngest is in trouble for something, she immediately starts looking for reasons to tattle on her sister, to take the attention away from her misdeeds.

I will tell her she's a shoo-in for a job at CNN.
 
2013-04-23 09:29:24 AM
Here's a story: Last year I started a topic at a miniscule forum I frequent discussing a sexual abuse ring in Mass that took place in the '70s, I named one of the participtants in my opening post and to this day if you do a search for this individual on google one of the first hits you get is my topic. I thought I was having a minor internal discussion among a tiny group of 'net friends not broadcasting this across google. Reddit is a much larger site but I would imagine they felt the same way.

Otherwise, pot meet kettle. The media is hardly one to point fingers for initial inaccurate reporting and ruining people's lives with innuendo and misleading reporting.
 
2013-04-23 09:30:05 AM
I like reddit, I really do, but it's not a news source and shouldn't be treated as such. I followed the threads where the people were giving minute by minute updates of what they're seeing and hearing on the scanner, but knew to take things with a boulder of salt. Unfortunately, many people don't realize that things they see on there in that respect are unverified, yet they jump on it and treat it as fact. The people posting these things need to be more responsible because they should know others will treat what they say as absolute fact. After everything, many on reddit were chastising CNN for saying the suspect was in custody when he wasn't and also for not being the fastest to report information after that. You can't be mad because they made a mistake then be mad because they take the time to make sure another mistake isn't made.
 
2013-04-23 09:30:30 AM
You're not wrong, CNN, you're just an asshole.
 
2013-04-23 09:47:32 AM
Well we all know the Chechnyan muslim was framed because it it physically impossible for anyone but white christian strait males to do anything bad.
 
2013-04-23 09:54:39 AM

Oldiron_79: Well we all know the Chechnyan muslim was framed because it it physically impossible for anyone but white christian strait males to do anything bad.


Go home, you're drunk.
 
2013-04-23 10:01:11 AM

Matthew Keene: Well that's certainly the pot calling the  kettle black!

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The pot might be calling the kettle black but in end CNN and Reddit are both black.
 
2013-04-23 10:06:42 AM

enry: Kibbler: The salient facts (in my view):

1. Yeah reddit screwed up
2. "reddit" is a conglomeration of people who frequent a particular website
3. CNN is a corporation with top-down management whose ostensible mission is to report the news
4. The people who run reddit apologized
5. CNN points fingers at reddit

Oh and

6. reddit is Wolf Blitzer-free

Don't forget reddit's mob mentality.  CNN should have management that prevents the wrong people from getting fingered.

/hopes reddit gets sued



You hope an online forum gets sued for the actions of a fraction of its comment/user base. Interesting. I wonder if you hold the same standard for forums you're a part of, that have a large cross-section of participants.
 
2013-04-23 10:14:02 AM
CNN
Can't Notice News
 
2013-04-23 10:16:52 AM

Generation_D: enry: Kibbler: The salient facts (in my view):

1. Yeah reddit screwed up
2. "reddit" is a conglomeration of people who frequent a particular website
3. CNN is a corporation with top-down management whose ostensible mission is to report the news
4. The people who run reddit apologized
5. CNN points fingers at reddit

Oh and

6. reddit is Wolf Blitzer-free

Don't forget reddit's mob mentality.  CNN should have management that prevents the wrong people from getting fingered.

/hopes reddit gets sued


You hope an online forum gets sued for the actions of a fraction of its comment/user base. Interesting. I wonder if you hold the same standard for forums you're a part of, that have a large cross-section of participants.


If only there were some set of rules...and some sort of moderation system to make sure those rules get enforced...

/libel is still libel, no matter who does it
 
2013-04-23 10:17:13 AM
Because when I want a credible newsworthy update I go to an aggregate website. Call me when NPR starts using Reddit as a 'source'.
 
2013-04-23 10:20:28 AM

enry: Generation_D: enry: Kibbler: The salient facts (in my view):

1. Yeah reddit screwed up
2. "reddit" is a conglomeration of people who frequent a particular website
3. CNN is a corporation with top-down management whose ostensible mission is to report the news
4. The people who run reddit apologized
5. CNN points fingers at reddit

Oh and

6. reddit is Wolf Blitzer-free

Don't forget reddit's mob mentality.  CNN should have management that prevents the wrong people from getting fingered.

/hopes reddit gets sued


You hope an online forum gets sued for the actions of a fraction of its comment/user base. Interesting. I wonder if you hold the same standard for forums you're a part of, that have a large cross-section of participants.

If only there were some set of rules...and some sort of moderation system to make sure those rules get enforced...

/libel is still libel, no matter who does it


Cubby v Compuserve, 1994, US Supreme Court.

An online forum is "like a bookstore," and is not held liable for the contents posted within it.

Cubby had some kind of business and someone snarked it on Compuseve's forums, and he sued Compuserve. Court found Compuserve not liable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc.
 
2013-04-23 10:22:44 AM
1991, not 1994. 1994 was when I cited it in a college paper :)
 
2013-04-23 10:31:53 AM
Yikes. Southern District of New York, not US Supreme Court.

Doesn't matter though, Cubby v Compuserve was and remains (I Think?) a big pillar of why forums that moderate themselves (and do so badly) are actually more liable than forums that never moderate at all. Reddit (the parent company) doesn't moderate forums, they sometimes delete them out of hand, but AFAIK don't moderate. That means they are less liable under Cubby and under Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy....

Maybe we'll see the family of Blue Jacket Kid sue Reddit, but they'd be smarter to sue The New York Post and CNN ... and at which point both would cite the First Amendment, as well as the long-held "First Draft of History" concept that allows journalism to "get it wrong" if they are making a "good faith effort" to get it right. That is highly debatable, but thats what they'll claim, and almost certainly win at.
 
2013-04-23 12:35:17 PM

KatjaMouse: Because when I want a credible newsworthy update I go to an aggregate website. Call me when NPR starts using Reddit as a 'source'.


How about Fark as a source?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2009/10/when_internet_mem es _go_to_cour.html
 
2013-04-23 12:58:17 PM
Considering CNN's high ranking sources seemed to be using Reddit for their source...

I kept hearing "we've seen pictures of what these guys look like" from the people on CNN and when the FBI showed the pictures they looked nothing like what the press saw.

willfullyobscure: fark those assholes. they tormented an innocent family because they saw a brown person. fark them sideeays and upside down.


Reddit or CNN? I kept hearing the brown person theory about Reddit, which doesn't hold water when you look at the people they mainly focused on. I saw more racist things on Fark (like the part where people were talking about the nose size when the pictures of the suspects came from the FBI).
 
2013-04-23 06:12:33 PM
They didn't learn their lesson about the newtown shootings.   Has the wrong lanza filed his lawsuits yet?  Dude has a massive payday coming for Libel.
 
2013-04-23 08:37:07 PM
This is why Fark is awesome.  We just got drunk and looked at cat pictures and let law enforcement do their jobs.
 
2013-04-23 11:58:38 PM
Reddit vigilantes : Ookie-cookie world champions
 
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