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2013-04-23 01:25:32 AM  
Well, in NC, this is the first time in 140 years that one party has controlled the house, senate, and governor's office. The Republicans are literally ramming every law they can think of through now, because they know that this won't happen again for a long time. This nasty side of the Republican party has always existed here. But, it was kept in check partially by Democratic governors or political splits in the house and senate. This is some sort of last ditch effort to go back to Jesse Helms-style policies before their time runs out at the next election.
 
2013-04-23 01:38:09 AM  
To say that our current situation is worse than "separate but equal" is a slap in the face of those who were victims of its injustices.

And, attacking the lower income base = racism?

Poverty knoweth not racial lines.
 
2013-04-23 01:47:59 AM  
FTA: "More Racist Than 60 Years Ago

If there is any doubt that the United States of America is more racist and bigoted than ever before, read this.

Applications for the welfare program known as WorkFirst would need to pass a drug test before enrolling in the program under a bill that passed the state Senate Monday night.



Okay, so the author of the article believes that all racial minorities are druggies.

Yep, that's pretty racist.
 
2013-04-23 02:11:05 AM  

cman: To say that our current situation is worse than "separate but equal" is a slap in the face of those who were victims of its injustices.

And, attacking the lower income base = racism?

Poverty knoweth not racial lines.


For some reason, "bigoted" doesn't seem sufficient.  You gotta work in "racism" to let 'em know you're serious.
 
2013-04-23 02:17:07 AM  

Amos Quito: FTA: "More Racist Than 60 Years Ago

If there is any doubt that the United States of America is more racist and bigoted than ever before, read this.

Applications for the welfare program known as WorkFirst would need to pass a drug test before enrolling in the program under a bill that passed the state Senate Monday night.


Okay, so the author of the article believes that all racial minorities are druggies.

Yep, that's pretty racist.


No, the author believes the law is intended to disproportionately impact minorities as a majority of the program's participants are minorities.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 02:54:50 AM  
Read whatever you want.

It is simple.  Don't be racist, or hate anyone for no reason for that matter.

I strongly dislike stupid people.  Except the ones that say "hold my beer, and watch this!"

Those people are funny.
 
2013-04-23 03:10:00 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Amos Quito: FTA: "More Racist Than 60 Years Ago

If there is any doubt that the United States of America is more racist and bigoted than ever before, read this.

Applications for the welfare program known as WorkFirst would need to pass a drug test before enrolling in the program under a bill that passed the state Senate Monday night.


Okay, so the author of the article believes that all racial minorities are druggies.

Yep, that's pretty racist.

No, the author believes the law is intended to disproportionately impact minorities as a majority of the program's participants are minorities.



The majority of the program's participants are minorities ???

The minority is the majority, and the majority is the minority!??!

"I'm sure I'll take you with pleasure!' the Queen said. 'Twopence a week and jam every other day.'
Alice couldn't help laughing, as she said 'I don't want you to hire me - and I don't care for jam.'
'It's very good jam,' said the Queen.
'Well, I don't want any to-day, at any rate.'
'You couldn't have it if you did want it,' the Queen said. 'The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday - but never jam to-day.'
'It must come sometimes to "jam to-day",' Alice objected.
'No, it can't, said the Queen. 'It's jam every other day: to-day isn't any other day, you know.'
'I don't understand you,' said Alice. 'It's dreadfully confusing!'
'That's the effect of living backwards,' the Queen said kindly: 'it always makes one a little giddy at first -'
'Living backwards!' Alice repeated in great astonishment. 'I never heard of such a thing!'

/We've gone too deep into the rabbit hole, Alice
//Tell the caterpillar to pass the hookah
///Please
 
2013-04-23 03:34:02 AM  

Amos Quito: The minority is the majority, and the majority is the minority!??!


Words may have differing means in differing contexts. This isn't shocking.
 
2013-04-23 03:42:25 AM  

Amos Quito: Okay, so the author of the article believes that all racial minorities are druggies.

Yep, that's pretty racist.


Republicans can read statistics as well as anyone and draft legislation accordingly.

Point out what they're doing, though? That's racist.
 
2013-04-23 06:17:51 AM  
But...but...We have a black President!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 07:37:08 AM  
There does seem to be a redneck renaissance of sorts.  I think it's a combination of the first redneck president turning out to be a failure followed by the first black president.  It's pushed them over the edge.
 
2013-04-23 08:14:57 AM  

vpb: There does seem to be a redneck renaissance of sorts.  I think it's a combination of the first redneck president turning out to be a failure followed by the first black president.  It's pushed them over the edge.


You think Bush was a redneck? I thought he was a member of the upper class trying to look more 'redneckish.'
 
2013-04-23 08:36:02 AM  
In before "LIBERALS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!!1!"
 
2013-04-23 08:38:06 AM  
Boy, the way Glenn Miller played
Songs that made The Hit Parade.
Guys like us we had it made.
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then!
Girls were girls and men were men.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state.
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great.
THOSE WERE THE DAYS!
 
2013-04-23 08:42:00 AM  

kingoomieiii: Amos Quito: Okay, so the author of the article believes that all racial minorities are druggies.

Yep, that's pretty racist.

Republicans can read statistics as well as anyone and draft legislation accordingly.

Point out what they're doing, though? That's racist.


Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Ni66er, ni66er, ni66er." forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me - because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Ni66er, ni66er."
 
2013-04-23 08:43:12 AM  
The only thing to stop a bad bigot with a gun is a good bigot with a gun.  -Wayne Lapierre
 
2013-04-23 08:45:39 AM  
Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.
 
2013-04-23 08:47:06 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.


Yes, what a resounding success in South Carolina.  They caught like 2 people at a huge expense to taxpayers.
 
2013-04-23 08:49:05 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.


I can argue with that, and they'd still be racists.
 
2013-04-23 08:50:20 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.


I can argue with that. Not that you'd listen, or comprehend the argument.
 
2013-04-23 08:50:36 AM  
No it's not.  These are the death throes of the bigots and fundamentalists.

All of these types of laws will be undone with 15 years.
 
2013-04-23 08:51:23 AM  
[social psychologist]

This should be an interesting article. I wonder how the researchers are measuring racism to get at this shift in attitudes in the population. Survey? Implicit Association Test? Neuro-imaging amygdala responses? Cross-temporal meta-analysis of experiments' effect size statistics?

[reads TFA]

Oh.

[/social psychologist]

Never mind, then.
 
2013-04-23 08:52:14 AM  

s1ugg0: No it's not.  These are the death throes of the bigots and fundamentalists.

All of these types of laws will be undone with 15 years.


Yeah, the article has absolutely no facts to back that claim, but I would argue there is some really overt dogshiat things that I can't believe lawmakers are trying to get through.

//well, overt to everyone but their constituents, that is.
 
2013-04-23 08:53:07 AM  

FNG: I strongly dislike stupid people.  Except the ones that say "hold my beer, and watch this!"

Those people are funny.


And, you know...free beer!
 
2013-04-23 08:54:09 AM  

coeyagi: BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.

Yes, what a resounding success in South Carolina.  They caught like 2 people at a huge expense to taxpayers.



Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it. I guess that only applies to schemes that liberals like, eh?
 
2013-04-23 08:55:03 AM  
Headline makes inflammatory claim about race.

Body of the article... makes no mention of anything racial whatsoever.

... man, I complain about the Mail sometimes, but I forget that the Guardian is even more of a tabloid rag.
 
2013-04-23 08:55:04 AM  
FTFA: In addition, those in the state's lowest income levels would have to pay for their own drug test.  This is not a joke, this is what they really want in a state that is bought and paid for by special interest groups.

No, it isn't bought and paid for by special interest groups.  As long as we decide elections in this country by having regular people go to the polls and vote for the candidates they want in office, you can't just by and pay for a government.  You can buy and pay for a lot of advertising for your candidate, but you can't buy elections.

The problem is that the American people are too lazy to educate themselves on the issues, too stupid to understand anything above a third-grade reading level and too backwards to join the twentieth century, much less the twenty-first.  The good people of North Carolina who went to the polls and voted Republican should have known, and possibly did know, full well that this kind of legislation would result if their votes prevailed.  It's not like it's been any huge secret what the Republican Party stands for the past five years.  We have every reason to believe that this is exactly what the majority of voters in North Carolina want.

Stop pretending that it's just politicians and that the American people are just victims when terrible legislation passes.  As Barney Frank said, exasperated over the same problem, a while ago, "Where do you think politicians come from?"
 
2013-04-23 08:56:26 AM  

84Charlie: coeyagi: BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.

Yes, what a resounding success in South Carolina.  They caught like 2 people at a huge expense to taxpayers.


Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it. I guess that only applies to schemes that liberals like, eh?


Conservatives are always saying that we spend too much money on ineffective big government programs that impact people's freedom. I guess that doesn't apply to schemes that conservatives like, eh?
 
2013-04-23 08:57:42 AM  

84Charlie: coeyagi: BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.

Yes, what a resounding success in South Carolina.  They caught like 2 people at a huge expense to taxpayers.


Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it. I guess that only applies to schemes that liberals like, eh?


Which Liberal? What brand of Liberalism?  Neoliberalism?  Socialism?  Social Democracts?  Anarcho-capitalists?

Which scheme?  Legal schemes, social welfare, military, environmental?

We're going to need specifics here.
 
2013-04-23 08:58:20 AM  
As Abraham Lincoln said, "If you are racist, I will attack you with the north."

// I miss Michael Scott
 
2013-04-23 08:59:57 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Headline makes inflammatory claim about race.

Body of the article... makes no mention of anything racial whatsoever.

... man, I complain about the Mail sometimes, but I forget that the Guardian is even more of a tabloid rag.


I'm sure your rational analysis and actual reading of the article is sure to keep this thread from becoming polarized and partisan.

/Maker's Mark isn't gonna buy itself!
 
2013-04-23 09:04:34 AM  
The poor are the biggest voting block the democrats have. They don't want to help them, they want to keep them on the dole. Anything you do to try and help welfare recipients is going to be met with hostility from those who have an interest on keeping them in perpetual servitude to the democrats.
 
2013-04-23 09:05:21 AM  

cman: To say that our current situation is worse than "separate but equal" is a slap in the face of those who were victims of its injustices.

And, attacking the lower income base = racism?

Poverty knoweth not racial lines.


Racism, no.  But maybe "bigoted?"  There's clearly a prejudicial hate for the poor in this NC bill.  If they're making people (who can't afford to eat as it is) pay for their own drug tests AND not be reimbursed by the state if they're clean, that's an obvious ploy to punish the poor.

For some reason (and blaming the prosperity gospel might be a good place to start, even if it's not the entire explanation), a significant number of people in this country view poor people as morally inferior.  Like they're poor because they're bad, and they deserve it, and they need to be punished.  It's like poverty itself is proof that one must be a criminal.
 
2013-04-23 09:09:33 AM  

The Name: Stop pretending that it's just politicians and that the American people are just victims when terrible legislation passes.  As Barney Frank said, exasperated over the same problem, a while ago, "Where do you think politicians come from?"


i.ytimg.comwww.scene-stealers.com
 
2013-04-23 09:11:10 AM  

I alone am best: The poor are the biggest voting block the democrats have. They don't want to help them, they want to keep them on the dole. Anything you do to try and help welfare recipients is going to be met with hostility from those who have an interest on keeping them in perpetual servitude to the democrats.


How, pray tell, is this helping welfare recipients?
 
2013-04-23 09:14:14 AM  
"What if we forced political candidates to be drug tested before they could serve in public office? " 

And post the results online?

If that isn't the topic of the greatest whitehouse petition ever, I don't know what is
 
2013-04-23 09:15:01 AM  
Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it.

what the fark is this garbage
 
2013-04-23 09:15:11 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: I alone am best: The poor are the biggest voting block the democrats have. They don't want to help them, they want to keep them on the dole. Anything you do to try and help welfare recipients is going to be met with hostility from those who have an interest on keeping them in perpetual servitude to the democrats.

How, pray tell, is this helping welfare recipients?


It is a deterent to drug use.
 
2013-04-23 09:22:32 AM  
This article uses poor logic.

I alone am best: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: I alone am best: The poor are the biggest voting block the democrats have. They don't want to help them, they want to keep them on the dole. Anything you do to try and help welfare recipients is going to be met with hostility from those who have an interest on keeping them in perpetual servitude to the democrats.

How, pray tell, is this helping welfare recipients?

It is a deterent to drug use.


Your trolling is bad.  Your original post consists of worn out talking points and your reply is an obvious logical fallacy.  Try harder.
 
2013-04-23 09:24:48 AM  

I alone am best: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: I alone am best: The poor are the biggest voting block the democrats have. They don't want to help them, they want to keep them on the dole. Anything you do to try and help welfare recipients is going to be met with hostility from those who have an interest on keeping them in perpetual servitude to the democrats.

How, pray tell, is this helping welfare recipients?

It is a deterent to drug use.


I support "the dole" even though it encourages dependence on the government among a certain demographic (white trash, black trash, Hispanic trash, etc.). Giving them money makes it far less likely that they're going to break into my home and steal my things.

I do, however, also support my right to shoot them in the face if they break in anyway.
 
2013-04-23 09:26:18 AM  

cman: To say that our current situation is worse than "separate but equal" is a slap in the face of those who were victims of its injustices.


This.  What a farking joke.
 
2013-04-23 09:29:18 AM  
its ok, next thread up says that sector of the population is dying.
 
2013-04-23 09:33:18 AM  

coeyagi: BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.

Yes, what a resounding success in South Carolina.  They caught like 2 people at a huge expense to taxpayers.


So there are no secondary effects to the law? No drug users stopped? None decided not to apply? Thank god our laws have a 100% incidence rate.
 
2013-04-23 09:34:19 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it. I guess that only applies to schemes that liberals like, eh?

Conservatives are always saying that we spend too much money on ineffective big government programs that impact people's freedom. I guess that doesn't apply to schemes that conservatives like, eh?


I'm sure there are many liberals who would like to cut funding on ineffective big government programs that impact people's freedom.  Please send them to Washington.  Send some conservatives that feel that way, too.
 
2013-04-23 09:37:18 AM  
Gee, I can't imagine as to why that would be.  I'm sure the fact the President is near has nothing to do with it.  That's just one of those funny coinkydinks of life, I tells ya.

To be serious though, and I do believe the President's skin color has a lot to do with why there's more vocal racism/bigotry in this country (because it gives them an outlet to be vocal in the first place), I don't think this country is more racist or bigoted than before.  As opposed to then, when it was okay to walk around in klan robes and make black people drink from separate fountains, it's much more underground today.  It's more subtle in some cases, and you don't see your neighbors burning crosses anymore.  The times have changed, and thus the methods have changed, but the attitudes have stayed the same.
 
2013-04-23 09:38:50 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.


Hmmmm, let's see... How did that whole drug testing welfare applicants work out in Florida?

Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana.


So, it seems drug using welfare recipients aren't nearly as big a problem as some politicians seem to be making it out to be, and it looks like more tax-payer money was spent on the testing than was saved.

So what other possible motivation could there be to drug-test welfare applicants?

Now, in North Carolina, we have the sponsor of this bill saying he will take a drug test as a law maker, but he wants to be compensated for the cost of the drug test if he passes clean.

Of course, the bill he's championing makes no mention of compensating welfare applicants who test clean for the drug test the law requires them to pay for... Curious.

Personally, I don't think racism is the motivation as much as disdain for the poor is. This is essentially a punishment for being poor wrapped up in a bunch of bullshiat rhetoric that welfare recipients are nothing but drug-using, lazy moochers, who want "free stuff" from the government.

This is just the continuation of the Romney/Ryan campaign strategy and the GOP's usual rhetoric.


So, there you go... An argument against these laws based on the facts without calling anyone a racist.
 
2013-04-23 09:39:47 AM  

Amos Quito: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Amos Quito: FTA: "More Racist Than 60 Years Ago

If there is any doubt that the United States of America is more racist and bigoted than ever before, read this.

Applications for the welfare program known as WorkFirst would need to pass a drug test before enrolling in the program under a bill that passed the state Senate Monday night.


Okay, so the author of the article believes that all racial minorities are druggies.

Yep, that's pretty racist.

No, the author believes the law is intended to disproportionately impact minorities as a majority of the program's participants are minorities.


The majority of the program's participants are minorities ???

The minority is the majority, and the majority is the minority!??!

"I'm sure I'll take you with pleasure!' the Queen said. 'Twopence a week and jam every other day.'
Alice couldn't help laughing, as she said 'I don't want you to hire me - and I don't care for jam.'
'It's very good jam,' said the Queen.
'Well, I don't want any to-day, at any rate.'
'You couldn't have it if you did want it,' the Queen said. 'The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday - but never jam to-day.'
'It must come sometimes to "jam to-day",' Alice objected.
'No, it can't, said the Queen. 'It's jam every other day: to-day isn't any other day, you know.'
'I don't understand you,' said Alice. 'It's dreadfully confusing!'
'That's the effect of living backwards,' the Queen said kindly: 'it always makes one a little giddy at first -'
'Living backwards!' Alice repeated in great astonishment. 'I never heard of such a thing!'

/We've gone too deep into the rabbit hole, Alice
//Tell the caterpillar to pass the hookah
///Please


Let me put this in terms you might understand

Trolls on Fark are in the minority of posters

however

If you consider just that group of trolls, the majority of them are idiots

Get it?  didn't think so.  QED
 
2013-04-23 09:40:21 AM  

84Charlie: Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it.


Citation needed.
 
2013-04-23 09:43:39 AM  
The author is a little off. Right now, a large number of Americans are pissed off at the poor. These have fallen for the idea that poor people are taking all their money. They don't want to feed hungry children because they don't think about the children; they think about their "deadbeat" parents. They don't think that most people who are poor don't do drugs. They are pissed because some poor person somewhere gets loll around in the "lap of luxury," watching a flat screen TV paid for with tax dollars, talking on an "Obamaphone" (which they are convinced is the latest iPhone), and paying for lap dances with food stamps while they have to work hard for an ever shrinking paycheck. And it is really important to keep the average American angry at poor people, even it it means higher taxes because of stupid, wasteful programs like drug testing the poor or a costly redesign of the SNAP to make sure that two guys who went to a strip club can never do it again.

Of course, this current situation does have some benefits. First, if the average American is pissed off at the poor and wants to punish them, then they are less likely to be pissed off at the people responsible for their shrinking paychecks. And, most of the money for these new let's-kick-the-poor programs go to some of the people who are helping shrink the average guy's paycheck (guess who gets the contracts for drug testing and  system redesigns?) Yes, most of the benefits from the current situation don't benefit the average person. But, hey, these are the same suckers who want to kick the poor. And, they want to kick the poor even more when you convince them that most poor people are not white. Doesn't matter if it's true. The suckers fall for it every time.
 
2013-04-23 09:44:04 AM  

84Charlie: coeyagi: BarkingUnicorn: Conservatives:  this will keep active drug users - criminals - off the taxpayers' backs.

Liberals:  can't argue with that, so you''re a racist.

Yes, what a resounding success in South Carolina.  They caught like 2 people at a huge expense to taxpayers.


Liberals are always saying if their scheme catches one person, then the cost was worth it. I guess that only applies to schemes that liberals like, eh?


No. Liberals always say that if ending the death penalty will stop ONE innocent man from dying then it would be worth it. I'm sure you don't see the difference.
 
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