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(The New York Times)   King Bloomberg hates soldiers fighting for his freedom, bans them from buying cigarettes   (nytimes.com) divider line 24
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2013-04-23 08:22:18 AM
3 votes:
Cigarettes are legal only because they've been grandfathered in because of their age and the power of Big Tobacco. They are genuinely horrible - an engineered super addictive product that's a public health menace with essentially no benefit whatsoever.
2013-04-23 07:52:08 AM
3 votes:

hardinparamedic: BOO! How dare he attack PERSONAL FREEDOMS!* WHARGARBL BIG GOVERNMENT!


Passing laws to protect us from ourselves is bad, no matter how you rationalize it or make fun of those who oppose it.
2013-04-23 08:19:36 AM
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: BOO! How dare he attack PERSONAL FREEDOMS!* WHARGARBL BIG GOVERNMENT!

*The cost of treating the consequences of CV Disease, Stroke, and COPD is approximately 400 BILLION a year, conservatively, to society at large.


And what dollar value do you put on your personal freedom?
2013-04-23 08:15:19 AM
2 votes:
New York.  The douchebag state.
2013-04-23 07:07:00 AM
2 votes:
Minimum age required to get behind the wheel of a 2 ton combustion engine machine capable of speeds over 100mp/h? 16.

Minimum age required to cast a ballot in the democratic system which decides the future political landscape of your country? 18.

Minimum age required to join the armed forces and be sent to fight (and potentially die) on foreign soil? 18.

Minimum age required to legally purchase a single drink of alcohol (and potentially, a tobacco delivery mechanism)? 21.

Sure, that seems legit.
2013-04-23 08:52:50 AM
1 votes:
Lord Bloomberg's scorn for the military is well documented.

Back during Sandy, he made it clear he didn't want the NY National Guard deployed to NYC for disaster relief.  He wasn't saying that NYC didn't need disaster relief, but he thought that only the NYPD should ever be on the streets keeping order and helping, even in an emergency.

A local mayor, not even the mayor of NYC, can legally keep the NG out if the Governor sends them in, but Bloomberg made such a stink about it that the NYNG's role in Sandy relief there was minimized.

Basically he doesn't like the military because they are not accountable to him.  He wants power, and the military is power he can't control, unlike the NYPD.
2013-04-23 08:28:00 AM
1 votes:

TofuTheAlmighty: Cigarettes are legal only because they've been grandfathered in because of their age and the power of Big Tobacco. They are genuinely horrible - an engineered super addictive product that's a public health menace with essentially no benefit whatsoever.


I agree, and I'm not arguing against you...but...

Same could be said for all kinds of "foods" that we consume...shait, you may as well lump alcohol into the mix too.  I guess my question is where do you draw the line on "what the body needs vs. indulgent with no real benefit?"
2013-04-23 08:26:19 AM
1 votes:

TofuTheAlmighty: Cigarettes are legal only because they've been grandfathered in because of their age and the power of Big Tobacco generate billions in sweet, sweet tax revenues.


FTFY.
2013-04-23 08:25:18 AM
1 votes:

Alonjar: miss diminutive: Minimum age required to get behind the wheel of a 2 ton combustion engine machine capable of speeds over 100mp/h? 16.
Minimum age required to cast a ballot in the democratic system which decides the future political landscape of your country? 18.
Minimum age required to join the armed forces and be sent to fight (and potentially die) on foreign soil? 18.
Minimum age required to legally purchase a single drink of alcohol (and potentially, a tobacco delivery mechanism)? 21.
Sure, that seems legit.

miss diminutive: Also, minimum age to legally purchase a rifle: 18.

So you're proposing that we introduce them to alcohol binges at the same time we give them rifles and voting powers? Interesting.


WAAAAAAYYY back in the day, politicians used to hand out free booze to guarantee an election win, which subsequently is why a lot of states enacted various types of bans on the sale and consumption of alcohol on election days.
2013-04-23 08:24:25 AM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Up here in the green mountains of Vermont, we know what NYC is.
It is the place that imports our heroin.


Chances are good your heroin comes into New England via fishing boats in New Bedford and Gloucester...
2013-04-23 08:19:01 AM
1 votes:

doubled99: 0/10. Try harder


Aww, it's cute. You think being outraged that 400 Billion Dollars in Medicare and Medicaid a year goes to keep a group of people alive who's disease was totally preventable is trolling.

GoldSpider: Which is why smokers pay more for health and life insurance.


Call me when they start paying more into social security and medicare taxes.
2013-04-23 08:15:33 AM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: hardinparamedic: *The cost of treating the consequences of CV Disease, Stroke, and COPD is approximately 400 BILLION a year, conservatively, to society at large.

Which is why smokers pay more for health and life insurance.


In terms of health insurance I remember reading that lifetime payouts for habitual smokers are on average lower than those of non-smokers because they don't live nearly as long.

Life insurance though, yeah they should pay more for that.
2013-04-23 08:09:32 AM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: *The cost of treating the consequences of CV Disease, Stroke, and COPD is approximately 400 BILLION a year, conservatively, to society at large.


Which is why smokers pay more for health and life insurance.
2013-04-23 08:03:16 AM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Dipfark could work on more important things, like reducing corruption in the police force, and his own administration.


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2013-04-23 08:00:55 AM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Up here in the green mountains of Vermont, we know what NYC is.
It is the place that imports our heroin.

Fix that, Bloomturd.


Why don't you just stop doing heroin?
2013-04-23 08:00:54 AM
1 votes:
Michael Bloomberg can go fark himself.
2013-04-23 07:58:31 AM
1 votes:
Dude runs a city like a frustrated high school administrator.

Which is to say, like an asswipe.

Dipfark could work on more important things, like reducing corruption in the police force, and his own administration.
Or washing the pee smells away. Plant some flowers, or put the homeless in a rehab program to kick start what is left of their lives.

Nah. He'd rather light a cuban with a C-note and piss off the balcony on the little people.

Well, I don't live there so it's not my shiathole.
But it is one.

Up here in the green mountains of Vermont, we know what NYC is.
It is the place that imports our heroin.

Fix that, Bloomturd.
2013-04-23 07:56:04 AM
1 votes:
Let your strawman corpsmen buy their cigarettes at the commissary on base, then.

There are many valid arguments against this idea: "hurr support th' troops" ain't one.
2013-04-23 07:49:22 AM
1 votes:
I only care about secondhand smoke if people are smoking shiatty cigarettes or dirt weed. Or crack.

Outlaw cheap shiat.
2013-04-23 07:48:18 AM
1 votes:
Just make tobacco illegal.
2013-04-23 07:48:12 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: miss diminutive: Minimum age required to get behind the wheel of a 2 ton combustion engine machine capable of speeds over 100mp/h? 16.

Minimum age required to cast a ballot in the democratic system which decides the future political landscape of your country? 18.

Minimum age required to join the armed forces and be sent to fight (and potentially die) on foreign soil? 18.

Minimum age required to legally purchase a single drink of alcohol (and potentially, a tobacco delivery mechanism)? 21.

Sure, that seems legit.

You forgot one:  Minimum age to be a licensed pilot:  16.


Also, minimum age to legally purchase a rifle: 18.
2013-04-23 07:40:08 AM
1 votes:

miss diminutive: Minimum age required to get behind the wheel of a 2 ton combustion engine machine capable of speeds over 100mp/h? 16.

Minimum age required to cast a ballot in the democratic system which decides the future political landscape of your country? 18.

Minimum age required to join the armed forces and be sent to fight (and potentially die) on foreign soil? 18.

Minimum age required to legally purchase a single drink of alcohol (and potentially, a tobacco delivery mechanism)? 21.

Sure, that seems legit.


You forgot one:  Minimum age to be a licensed pilot:  16.
2013-04-23 07:38:48 AM
1 votes:
BOO! How dare he attack PERSONAL FREEDOMS!* WHARGARBL BIG GOVERNMENT!

*The cost of treating the consequences of CV Disease, Stroke, and COPD is approximately 400 BILLION a year, conservatively, to society at large.
2013-04-23 07:27:55 AM
1 votes:
Minimum age to be convicted and sentenced to death as an adult for murder? 14.


Land of the free, and you are surprised why?
 
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