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(The New York Times)   King Bloomberg hates soldiers fighting for his freedom, bans them from buying cigarettes   (nytimes.com) divider line 120
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2013-04-23 11:26:02 AM  

keylock71: The one and only time I've ever seen someone stabbed was in there after one fisherman accused another of stealing lobsters out of his pots.


I've heard of (more casual) lobster fishermen occasionally needing to borrow a lobster from another's pot, and leaving money or good booze behind.

Think of it like this: if you're entertaining people but you're one lobster short for dinner, grabbing a bug out of another fisherman's pot is understandable. But only as long as you're willing to pay--stealing is wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
2013-04-23 12:24:21 PM  
The best thing about Queen Bloomberg is that he's shown the rest of the US just how much progressive liberals are happy to fark with people's lives. It seems to be beginning to cause a rift between progressives and normal liberals that dont give a shiat if you go into a bar and have have a damn smoke. Maybe they can team up with middle of the road republicans and start a "don't fark with my damn life" party...

Marcintosh: Because in the end, he has the better general welfare of the citizenry in mind. I know, hard to believe isn't it? He's a conservative and I'mmmm not. Still and all, good is irrefutable from any corner. Are you aware he's donated millions to public health and has a building with his name on it at NYU? So yeah, he has an interest.


I know the above is a troll (or at least I hope so), but people that follow this clown really believe it...

Anyway:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
 
2013-04-23 12:25:42 PM  
I guess that I am so d*mned old that I just don't understand why young people take up smoking. All the media, all the medical stats don't seem to matter. Where I live there are several companies that will not hire smokers. (They are pharmaceutical companies and claim possible contamination.) I manage retail where the smokers(employees) will draw that last puff just before coming in the door and throw it into the street. They smell bad. Period. I had a guy with BO and told him to put on deodorant that I gave him. He thanked me. I gave the deodorant to another guy who smelled like an ash tray and he gets offended.
And nothing seems to work. I noticed on a cigarette package a stupid warning, some like "Nothing on this package conveys that it is healthy, good for you or beneficial and should not be construed that way." And there is a suggested large tax hike for cigs proposed. The smokers I know just say, "Oh, well" and continue to buy and then wonder why it is hard to meet a car payment.
So any of you Farkers that are 20ish; can you tell me why smoking is so necessary? Not being sarcastic, I would like to know. Yes, both my parents died as a result of smoking.  But I have a sister and a daughter that saw the consequences and still smoke. If you have a drunk, alcoholic father, do you have the desire to start drinking? If you have an obese mother who has diabetes and looses a foot due to poor blood circulation do you still eat like a hog at a trough?
 
2013-04-23 01:14:26 PM  

Pete_T_Mann: Anyway:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."


Coming from C.S. Lewis, I find this to by hysterical.
 
2013-04-23 01:26:14 PM  

Pete_T_Mann: The best thing about Queen Bloomberg is that he's shown the rest of the US just how much progressive liberals are happy to fark with people's lives. It seems to be beginning to cause a rift between progressives and normal liberals that dont give a shiat if you go into a bar and have have a damn smoke. Maybe they can team up with middle of the road republicans and start a "don't fark with my damn life" party...

Marcintosh: Because in the end, he has the better general welfare of the citizenry in mind. I know, hard to believe isn't it? He's a conservative and I'mmmm not. Still and all, good is irrefutable from any corner. Are you aware he's donated millions to public health and has a building with his name on it at NYU? So yeah, he has an interest.

I know the above is a troll (or at least I hope so), but people that follow this clown really believe it...

(sadly, so much for what you know, please see below-)
Anyway:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."


I wouldn't put much stock in Lewis there.  Lewis didn't live in an age where tobacco advertising was a multi billion dollar business.
"Tobacco companies have had particularly large budgets for their advertising campaigns. The Federal Trade Commission claimed that cigarette manufacturers spent $8.24 billion on advertising and promotion in 1999, the highest amount ever at that time. The FTC later claimed that in 2005, cigarette companies spent $13.11 billion on advertising and promotion, down from $15.12 billion in 2003, but nearly double what was spent in 1998. The increase, despite restrictions on the advertising in most countries, was an attempt at appealing to a younger audience, including multi-purchase offers and giveaways such as hats and lighters, along with the more traditional store and magazine advertising "
(citation-http://tinyurl.com/35guyd  emphasis mine)

this combined with cuts in education make individuals particularly vulnerable to advertising.

Well, here's to your Troll effort -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg#Philanthropy
and I apologize, I was wrong, he donated $1B US to Johns Hopkins (Not NYU) in Baltimore though if you stand in line long enough it appears  . . .
Now please, run right out and have a smoke - try not to drop dead from it.
 
2013-04-23 01:46:06 PM  
Bloomberg: "Vote me out! Just vote me out! What more do I have to do to you idiots? Mandatory rectal exams?! I WANT TO RETIRE."
 
2013-04-23 02:46:53 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Coming from C.S. Lewis, I find this to by hysterical


Yep, but its still a good quote, and has been well proven as of late.

Marcintosh: I wouldn't put much stock in Lewis there. Lewis didn't live in an age where tobacco advertising was a multi billion dollar business.
"Tobacco companies have had particularly large budgets for their advertising campaigns. The Federal Trade Commission claimed that cigarette manufacturers spent $8.24 billion on advertising and promotion in 1999, the highest amount ever at that time. The FTC later claimed that in 2005, cigarette companies spent $13.11 billion on advertising and promotion, down from $15.12 billion in 2003, but nearly double what was spent in 1998. The increase, despite restrictions on the advertising in most countries, was an attempt at appealing to a younger audience, including multi-purchase offers and giveaways such as hats and lighters, along with the more traditional store and magazine advertising "


Ah, so advertising budgets are inversely proportional to freedom of choice of the people that use the product? But, yeah, you're right, they never heard heard of advertising until at least 1965, a couple years after Lewis' death. That whole Madmen show is bullsh*t. But I'm sure, had Lewis been born later, he would have said, "Please Queen Bloomberg, tell me how to live my life and what choices I should make because you know better than me! I beg you, tell me, TELL ME!"

And yeah, those donations make him a really good person, that's why he gets along with his family and all so well.... I'm sure being around him is roses every minute and unicorn riding once an hour...

Now run along and have a nice day-- just don't do anything Queen Bloomberg tells you not to! Those big sodas are dangerous! Someone like you could drown!
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 03:02:04 PM  

computerguyUT: New York.  The douchebag state.


Since you cannot tell the difference between a city and a state, Bloomie's power is limited (thankfully) to NYC (CITY).
I live on Long Island, and he is fairly well universally hated hereabouts for being the elitist scumbag he is.

UT is no utopia either pal. Been there, hate Provo.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-04-23 03:06:30 PM  

hardinparamedic: BOO! How dare he attack PERSONAL FREEDOMS!* WHARGARBL BIG GOVERNMENT!

*The cost of treating the consequences of CV Disease, Stroke, and COPD is approximately 400 BILLION a year, conservatively, to society at large.


The problem is it will not stop there, HP. You know it. Hell, just going by his track record one can see that.
He is a megalomaniac on a power-trip.
 
2013-04-23 03:08:23 PM  

Endive Wombat: The cost and knowhow to produce your own smokable tobacco and drinkable alcohol is too high and too difficult for the average person, whereas growing your own weed is significantly easier.


I don't know about growing tobacco, but it seems unlikely that it's all that difficult, assuming a favorable climate... But, I know that making alcohol is extremely easy and relatively cheap... I used to brew my own beer, and I'm lazy as hell! It was completely trivial, and produced wonderful results... Yet, I eventually stopped and now just buy all my beer... Why? Because, I'm lazy as hell! And, it's just easier to pay a premium for ready-made product than bother with the trivial effort of making my own... Also, people have been making moonshine out of improvised stills quite easily for ages, so I don't think that requires a great deal of effort, skill, or money, either... If you are talking about making fine scotch or something, sure maybe that would be prohibitive for the average joe to pull off...

If you can grow tomatoes, you can grow weed...it won't be the most amazing stuff in the world, but it will still do its job.

Yes, strangely, most people still go to the store and buy their tomatoes there rather than grow their own!
 
2013-04-23 03:19:16 PM  

what_now: That's incredibly stupid.

When I was in college, it was far easier to get illegal drugs than it was to get alcohol. Putting arbitrary age restrictions on things doesn't help the problem.


Sent you a link to /. concerning TSA and x-ray scanners. Wasn't sure if you were the right person though so sorry if you're not the right person. Either way, it is in your inbox. I think it was a couple of days ago, haven't seen your name on here since. Used the email listed in your profile.
 
2013-04-23 03:41:07 PM  
I think this bloomberg fella figures if he keeps doing stupid little things like this nobody will notice he isn't doing anything about the real problems in NYC?

It's a good tactic just a little annoying
 
2013-04-23 04:16:30 PM  
Cue right-wing Economics professors telling me that high taxes on cigs don't work, b/c it just amps up cig smuggling.
 
2013-04-23 04:17:34 PM  
The ability to smoke cigarettes is NOT freedom at all! Some huge corporation has tricked people into being addicted to a substance that will slowly kill each and every one of them in a painful way.

The whistleblower Jeffrey Weigand uncovered the secrets of the tobacco corporations, and one of the biggest secrets was that they DELIBERATELY made their products as addictive as possible so people would find them extremely difficult to give up.

Smokers are all patsies in an enormous pharmaceutical experiment which turns them into nothing more than cash cows for big business. In other words, the tobacco corporations are nothing more than economic parasites which are sucking the lifeblood from our society and economy without creating anything beneficial.

Imagine a world without smoking- wonderful!
 
2013-04-23 04:21:15 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: Cue right-wing Economics professors telling me that high taxes on cigs don't work, b/c it just amps up cig smuggling.


...well to be honest that's exactly what happens.
 
2013-04-23 05:05:28 PM  
Old enough to die,
Old enough to buy.
 
2013-04-23 05:27:54 PM  

Pete_T_Mann: HotWingConspiracy: Coming from C.S. Lewis, I find this to by hysterical

Yep, but its still a good quote, and has been well proven as of late.

Marcintosh: I wouldn't put much stock in Lewis there. Lewis didn't live in an age where tobacco advertising was a multi billion dollar business.
"Tobacco companies have had particularly large budgets for their advertising campaigns. The Federal Trade Commission claimed that cigarette manufacturers spent $8.24 billion on advertising and promotion in 1999, the highest amount ever at that time. The FTC later claimed that in 2005, cigarette companies spent $13.11 billion on advertising and promotion, down from $15.12 billion in 2003, but nearly double what was spent in 1998. The increase, despite restrictions on the advertising in most countries, was an attempt at appealing to a younger audience, including multi-purchase offers and giveaways such as hats and lighters, along with the more traditional store and magazine advertising "

Ah, so advertising budgets are inversely proportional to freedom of choice of the people that use the product? But, yeah, you're right, they never heard heard of advertising until at least 1965, a couple years after Lewis' death. That whole Madmen show is bullsh*t. But I'm sure, had Lewis been born later, he would have said, "Please Queen Bloomberg, tell me how to live my life and what choices I should make because you know better than me! I beg you, tell me, TELL ME!"

And yeah, those donations make him a really good person, that's why he gets along with his family and all so well.... I'm sure being around him is roses every minute and unicorn riding once an hour...

Now run along and have a nice day-- just don't do anything Queen Bloomberg tells you not to! Those big sodas are dangerous! Someone like you could drown!



Sorry, new policy - only one witless retort per customer - you had your shot and now you're into gainsay and sarcasm that adds nothing-   Adios
 
2013-04-23 06:43:36 PM  

BumpInTheNight: BolshyGreatYarblocks: Cue right-wing Economics professors telling me that high taxes on cigs don't work, b/c it just amps up cig smuggling.

...well to be honest that's exactly what happens.


Bloomberg...you see...is a right wing free market guy....but....he's restricting cigarettes....

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2013-04-23 09:13:50 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: BumpInTheNight: BolshyGreatYarblocks: Cue right-wing Economics professors telling me that high taxes on cigs don't work, b/c it just amps up cig smuggling.

...well to be honest that's exactly what happens.

Bloomberg...you see...is a right wing free market guy....but....he's restricting cigarettes....

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Living in a world of absolutes must be awfully annoying.
 
2013-04-24 10:20:17 AM  
meh, the people of the state keep voting him in.
 they get what they deserve
And I stopped giving a shiat what happens to you mopes
long ago
 
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