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2013-04-22 07:56:09 PM  
As a big fan of L.A. Confidential, I'm all for this.
 
2013-04-22 08:53:16 PM  
Off the record, on the QT. And very hush hush.
 
2013-04-22 08:55:06 PM  
I've heard lots of stories about a TV series based on the "USA Underground" trilogy (American Tabloid, The Cold Six Thousand, and Blood's a Rover).  That would kick lots and lots of ass.

But, yeah, a series in the LA Quartet world would be just as awesome.
 
2013-04-22 09:12:23 PM  
Yes!!!!
 
2013-04-22 09:13:36 PM  
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Approves.
 
2013-04-22 09:31:38 PM  
I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.
 
2013-04-22 09:44:05 PM  
I dated a girl once who had period drama every month.
 
2013-04-22 09:54:50 PM  

karmaceutical: I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.


Absurd.  Your favorite author, musician, actor, whatever -- all could be major douches.  It's entertainment, he's not your neighbor or co-worker.
 
2013-04-22 10:04:27 PM  

Solid State Vittles: karmaceutical: I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.

Absurd.  Your favorite author, musician, actor, whatever -- all could be major douches.  It's entertainment, he's not your neighbor or co-worker.


Maybe.  Most of them have the good sense to keep it to themselves anyway.
 
2013-04-22 10:05:48 PM  
Fark yeah! "The Black Dahlia" was phenomenal, and it's a shame that Brian de Palma (farking hack!) butchered it so badly.

/LA Confidential is probably in my top ten films of all time
//read the pseudo-memoir "My Dark Places" if you wanna know why Ellroy is so farked up
 
2013-04-22 10:06:54 PM  

Gotfire: I dated a girl once who had period drama every month.


*golfclap*
 
2013-04-22 10:13:37 PM  

jake_lex: I've heard lots of stories about a TV series based on the "USA Underground" trilogy (American Tabloid, The Cold Six Thousand, and Blood's a Rover).  That would kick lots and lots of ass.

But, yeah, a series in the LA Quartet world would be just as awesome.


The LA quartet would have to be completely neutered to make it on basic cable. Showing the violent racism of the LAPD of that period and shown vividly in Elroy's books would be too much. Something along the lines of Brown's Requiem might pass but White Jazz would die even before it got to the sensors. Thankfully it looks like original material from the article.

The closest thing I have seen to Elroy on TV was The Shield.  If it can be that set in the 1950's it would be damn good.

/I have seen him twice in person. I found him caustic and blunt but not a douche.
//Gave the best 5 minute critique of Hammett i have ever heard.
 
2013-04-22 10:15:08 PM  

karmaceutical: I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.


The old saying goes "Never meet your heroes." People can seem like d!cks or whatever in person. That's a stupid reason not to read or watch their work, and Ellroy's is some of the best. The Black Dahlia is farking amazing (and I will never forgive De Palma for ruining the film), and I'm stoked they're doing something with American Tabloid for film now, too.
 
2013-04-22 10:16:33 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: it's a shame that Brian de Palma (farking hack!) butchered it so badly.


I just posted the same thought. Originally Fincher was supposed to do it, and if he had, we'd have another L.A. Confidential-level kickass film to enjoy for the rest of our lives. Instead we got something unwatchable and instantly forgettable. I'm still pissed about it.
 
2013-04-22 10:19:16 PM  

Apos: As a big fan of L.A. Confidential, I'm all for this.


As someone who went to see The Black Dahlia based on this logic, I'm avoiding this like super AIDS.
 
2013-04-22 10:51:16 PM  
Cautiously optimistic since it sounds like Ellroy is directly involved.
 
2013-04-22 10:52:41 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: karmaceutical: I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.

The old saying goes "Never meet your heroes." People can seem like d!cks or whatever in person. That's a stupid reason not to read or watch their work, and Ellroy's is some of the best. The Black Dahlia is farking amazing (and I will never forgive De Palma for ruining the film), and I'm stoked they're doing something with American Tabloid for film now, too.


Some of the best what though?  This guy just seemed to have a schtick, really trying to (over)sell what a crazy guy he was.  Sort of like a Ted Nugent of crime novels.  I ain't got time for that nonsense.
 
2013-04-22 10:54:36 PM  

karmaceutical: I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.


When I met him some years ago, the guy couldn't have been nicer to me. We talked about history and writing, and he encouraged me to finish my dissertation. It was actually the nicest celebrity meeting I've ever had. He can come off as abrasive, but hey, if you'd lived his life you'd be abrasive too.
 
2013-04-22 11:11:07 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Bonanza Jellybean: it's a shame that Brian de Palma (farking hack!) butchered it so badly.

I just posted the same thought. Originally Fincher was supposed to do it, and if he had, we'd have another L.A. Confidential-level kickass film to enjoy for the rest of our lives. Instead we got something unwatchable and instantly forgettable. I'm still pissed about it.


So very much THIS.
 
2013-04-22 11:51:29 PM  
LA Confidential is one of the ten best movies of the 90s. Unforgiven is the only one I can think of that is easily ahead of it.
 
2013-04-22 11:58:43 PM  

karmaceutical: shower_in_my_socks: karmaceutical: I've never read a James Ellroy book.  I saw him on some documentary thing, many years ago, and he came off as such an epic douchebag that I could never do it.  Even when stuck in an airport with nothing to read... that bad.

The old saying goes "Never meet your heroes." People can seem like d!cks or whatever in person. That's a stupid reason not to read or watch their work, and Ellroy's is some of the best. The Black Dahlia is farking amazing (and I will never forgive De Palma for ruining the film), and I'm stoked they're doing something with American Tabloid for film now, too.

Some of the best what though?  This guy just seemed to have a schtick, really trying to (over)sell what a crazy guy he was.  Sort of like a Ted Nugent of crime novels.  I ain't got time for that nonsense.


The novels are a schtick, too. All vaguely similar, with cookie-cutter characters sprinkled about. Not the end of the universe. A lot of writers are like that. I still think you should read an Ellroy book. Reading all of them would be a waste of your time, but one wouldn't hurt. You could avoid paying a douchebag by scoring a used copy or checking the book out from a library.
 
2013-04-23 12:32:55 AM  

you are a puppet: LA Confidential is one of the ten best movies of the 90s. Unforgiven is the only one I can think of that is easily ahead of it.


Pulp Fiction is in that conversation, but generally agreed.
 
2013-04-23 12:34:32 AM  

karmaceutical: Some of the best what though?  This guy just seemed to have a schtick,


He does have a schtick. He's also written some great effing books. I don't care much for his "forced" persona that he puts on for the public, either. But in the books it works very, very well. Read The Black Dahlia. If you don't like that, you don't like Ellroy.
 
2013-04-23 12:36:10 AM  

you are a puppet: LA Confidential is one of the ten best movies of the 90s. Unforgiven is the only one I can think of that is easily ahead of it.


LA Confidential is in the very exclusive club of movies that, if I see it while flipping channels, I have to sit and watch it. Even if there are only 5 minutes left, I will watch the fark out of those last 5 minutes.
 
2013-04-23 12:46:35 AM  
I don't read a ton of fiction, but I read every one of his books. Some are better than others, but all of them were at least good.


I always wondered why he moved to Kansas after spending his entire life in Los Angeles.
 
2013-04-23 12:59:47 AM  

you are a puppet: LA Confidential is one of the ten best movies of the 90s. Unforgiven is the only one I can think of that is easily ahead of it.


It's a travesty that it lost the best picture Oscar to Titanic, but at least it got the nod for best adapted screenplay. I watched the extra on the bluray about the scriptwriting process and the writers did so well to condense the whole novel down to a couple of hours.
 
2013-04-23 01:56:55 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: you are a puppet: LA Confidential is one of the ten best movies of the 90s. Unforgiven is the only one I can think of that is easily ahead of it.

LA Confidential is in the very exclusive club of movies that, if I see it while flipping channels, I have to sit and watch it. Even if there are only 5 minutes left, I will watch the fark out of those last 5 minutes.


Testify, brother. Kim Bassinger in that dress, the ray-bans, sun-lit from behind - wowza.

/the shoot-out at the end is pretty good, too
//Crowe and Pierce should work together more often
 
2013-04-23 03:26:22 AM  
James Ellroy's book has a great plot, and goddamn it, one of these days he's going to write it right.

Also, his favorite band is Boston.
 
2013-04-23 04:47:36 AM  
L.A. Confidential is one of my favorite Ellroy books. The movie was good, but the ending epically pissed me off.
 
2013-04-23 09:16:25 AM  
ol' gormsby:
//Crowe and Pierce should work together more often

Farkin' A right they should. I was a huge fan of the book and had no expectations of the movie, figuring Hollywood would do their usual butcher's job on it. Man, I was seriously impressed with Crowe burning up the screen, balanced with Pierce's cool remove. I had never seen either guy before. But you have to admit, it was a great cast - Danny DeVito, Kevin Spacey, James Cromwell and David Strathairn all turn in solid performances. Even Ron Rifkin as the weasely DA.

Hollywood occasionally gets it right, and they sure did on that movie. It's one of my faves.
 
2013-04-23 09:37:09 AM  
Ellroy's public persona is very prickish, but it has become more and more tongue-in cheek to me.  Some of it is a big joke if you really meet him.  I had a 10 minute conversation with him when I met him, and he was absolutely delightful.

LA Confidential is an amazing book.  I finished the book and then watched the movie and HATED the movie.  I still am bitter that the movie is a pretty neutered- whole storylines completely cut out.  I know it needed to be cut down, but there were some pretty pivotal points that were completely glossed over.  I watched it again a few years later and enjoyed it much more...but I still feel like stuff is missing.

LA Quartet as a whole is great, the trio started strong, but by Blood's A Rover, he'd really lost the plot, IMO.
 
2013-04-23 09:48:07 AM  

Cagey B: Apos: As a big fan of L.A. Confidential, I'm all for this.

As someone who went to see The Black Dahlia based on this logic, I'm avoiding this like super AIDS.


Dahlia should have been (and should still be) done as a TV miniseries.  There was no way anyone could do justice to a novel that dense within the confines of a 2 or even 3 hour long movie.  Think I'll call some cable execs and pitch it.
 
2013-04-23 10:00:55 AM  
Bad Men?
 
2013-04-23 01:56:15 PM  
Shut up and take my [ad revenue and subscription fees]
 
2013-04-23 08:07:54 PM  
I loved the LA quartet with the second one being my favorite although I did love LA Confidential and his Lloyd Hopkins novels were great.  James Woods starred in it back in the '80's.  I haven't been able to read anything since then since his writing style changed.  I saw a series he did on NetFlix and it's just unwatchable.  I hope this is better.  Post war LA is a neat time period.  The game LA Noire is a great example of it.
 
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