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2013-04-22 08:35:23 PM
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2013-04-22 09:04:08 PM
'Ave a seat over there gov'ner...
 
2013-04-22 09:38:51 PM

Apos: [gifs.gifbin.com image 236x354]


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2013-04-22 09:40:25 PM

"A British band of self-styled pedophile hunters has been ambushing men it believes are out to meet young girls, posting video of the confrontations to the Web in a tactic which has yielded arrests - but alarmed police."


Jeebus, Redditors are trying really hard at rehabbing their image after the whole Boston Marathon investigation disaster.

 
2013-04-22 09:41:05 PM
14 female Chicago
 
2013-04-22 09:41:34 PM
Coppers hate the competition.
 
2013-04-22 09:44:08 PM
I am not a fan of vigilantism, but that was pretty damn good vigilantism. They nailed like 100s of child predators.
 
2013-04-22 09:45:19 PM
smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net
We should not stand for predators in our neighborhoods.
 
2013-04-22 09:46:21 PM

phrawgh: [smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net image 600x318]
We should not stand for predators in our neighborhoods.


If they bleed we can kill them.
 
2013-04-22 09:47:11 PM
This is prime horror movie material. "You went to a house expecting a little girl. You didn't tell anyone where you were going. How long will it be before anyone realizes you're missing?"

Or maybe some kind of BDSM porn.
 
2013-04-22 09:47:53 PM
I mean why not?  The internet was dead on with the bombers.  It's not like internet groups would ever do something just for the ability to pat themselves on the back without bothering to do their due diligence first.
 
2013-04-22 09:49:43 PM

WhoopAssWayne: I am not a fan of vigilantism, but that was pretty damn good vigilantism. They nailed like 100s of child predators.


Are you trolling?

Police in the Leicestershire and West Midlands areas of central England acknowledged that five suspects aged 24 to 54 had been arrested in connection with the group's activities, but warned that the stings could backfire.
 
2013-04-22 09:50:21 PM

Apos: [gifs.gifbin.com image 236x354]


Somebody photoshop some nasty yellow teeth onto Chris Hansen!
 
2013-04-22 09:50:35 PM

wildcardjack: This is prime horror movie material. "You went to a house expecting a little girl. You didn't tell anyone where you were going. How long will it be before anyone realizes you're missing?"

Or maybe some kind of BDSM porn.


Not exactly this, but sorta been done

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424136/
 
2013-04-22 09:50:49 PM
Being English do they put the seat on the other side of the room?
 
2013-04-22 09:52:27 PM
What's all this, then?
 
2013-04-22 09:54:13 PM
Awesome. Acting the vigilante could never come back to bite them, nope, no chance.

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2013-04-22 10:00:08 PM
If hunting predators is outlawed, only outlaws will hunt predators.
 
2013-04-22 10:00:12 PM
get out of my head, Basil Fawlty

/ looking for a room then are we? for the entire hour?
 
2013-04-22 10:00:48 PM
 
2013-04-22 10:01:22 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Awesome. Acting the vigilante could never come back to bite them, nope, no chance.


That particular case has done more for vigilantism than I have seen since Bernard Goetz. - NBC spliced/edited that fairy tell - and he will get a fortune from it.
 
2013-04-22 10:08:25 PM
Last time British vigilantes went after pedophiles a pediatrician ended up on the receiving end of DIY justice.
 
2013-04-22 10:10:29 PM
The Letzgo van?

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/brb, knock at the door
 
2013-04-22 10:11:24 PM

farkingismybusiness: phrawgh: [smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net image 600x318]
We should not stand for predators in our neighborhoods.

If they bleed we can kill them.


I thought it was "If it can bleed, it can breed?"

/i'll just have a seat over there
 
2013-04-22 10:15:10 PM
In one video posted to the Internet last month, a man is seen being confronted on a footpath by someone who identifies himself as being one of several "pedophile hunters."

There's absolutely no way whatsoever this could ever end badly.
 
2013-04-22 10:18:13 PM
I wonder if the daily fail has liability if someone tries this, ends up killed and their kid raped.
God forbid this ever happen, but frankly I can imagine it occurring in this day in age.
 
2013-04-22 10:19:18 PM
What if my fetish is gross middle aged vigilantes pretending to be underage girls online?
 
2013-04-22 10:22:26 PM
To Catch a Predator was just awful. How any of those arrests stood up, I have no idea. Entertainment should NEVER be mixed with justice.
 
2013-04-22 10:23:36 PM

phrawgh: If hunting predators is outlawed, only outlaws will hunt predators.


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2013-04-22 10:34:11 PM
The Russian version will never take off...

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2013-04-22 10:37:37 PM
i LOVED to catch a predator
there was never any 'misunderstanding' about what was said online
those assholes were looking to bone a 13 year old...

and i commend the show, even if someone killed himself after being caught.
too bad they all didn't
 
2013-04-22 10:54:36 PM

davynelson: i LOVED to catch a predator
there was never any 'misunderstanding' about what was said online
those assholes were looking to bone a 13 year old...

and i commend the show, even if someone killed himself after being caught.
too bad they all didn't


Yeah, except Perverted Justice was often paid more by NBC to get the guys to show up, so their decoy begged the guy to come over. Which is, you know, entrapment, except when it is done to catch "bad guys". And the guy who killed himself didn't even show up... He decided it was wrong and didn't show up, and they farking went to his house with a camera. I am glad NBC got the shiat sued out of them for it
 
2013-04-22 10:54:56 PM

davynelson: i LOVED to catch a predator
there was never any 'misunderstanding' about what was said online
those assholes were looking to bone a 13 year old...

and i commend the show, even if someone killed himself after being caught.
too bad they all didn't


It was discovered that a lot of that "evidence" they showed on TV was doctored by the project members, and more than a few guys got out of any charges because of it.

Also, I never quite understood why every guy showed up with Wendy's hamburgers.

/Wendy's. Not pedophiles, but #1 with pedophiles.
//Actually, going for teens is not pedophilia. It's ephebophilia. The distinction being that the subjects of interest have gone through puberty.  Pedophiles are turned off by puberty.
 
2013-04-22 10:57:58 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: wildcardjack: This is prime horror movie material. "You went to a house expecting a little girl. You didn't tell anyone where you were going. How long will it be before anyone realizes you're missing?"

Or maybe some kind of BDSM porn.

Not exactly this, but sorta been done

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424136/


Ow my balls!
 
2013-04-22 11:10:13 PM
FTFA: "Unfortunately, these kinds of public 'naming and shaming' activities can actually have a negative (effect) on victims of child abuse," Leicester Police said in a statement Monday. "While we understand the strong feelings that motivate this kind of activity, it can seriously affect the chances of success in court, preventing victims from getting justice and increasing the chances of offenders walking free."

TRANSLATION: "You civilian folks are stepping on our toes. By bringing all this to light, you're showing just how understaffed and/or ineffective law enforcement can be in catching these perverts. You're making it look too easy. You're embarrassing everyone by showing just how prevalent this type of behavior is in our society... And if you keep it up, you're probably going to start catching politically connected people as well. So... stop it."

This reminds me of the response that Fairfax County, Virginia prosecutors had when the Dateline NBC "Predator" specials first started. Back in those days, Chris Hansen would catch the guy -- do the kitchen interview -- and then let the guy go. They shot one of these early shows in Fairfax County, and when the public asked why the pervs were allowed to go free, the prosecutors said that the work done by Perverted Justice and Dateline NBC did not provide sufficient evidence to prosecute. In response to that, other prosecutors and law enforcement jurisdictions contacted Dateline NBC and told them they would welcome this type of help. I believe a prosecutor in Massachusetts called out the Fairfax County, VA, prosecutor's argument and explained in very clear terms that this type of operation provided exactly the type of evidence that was needed to put these people away. Fairfax County eventually changed its tune and invited the show to come back.

This type of operation, if it's done right, is no different than using bait cars or undercover hookers or undercover drug dealers. It draws these people out and catches them breaking the law in a controlled situation that minimizes risk to the general public. The alternative is to wait passively for these people to harm someone and then go after them. That's fine, I guess, as long as it's not your kid that winds up being a victim in that situation.

"The b*itch set me up." -- Hizzhonor, Mayor-for-Life Marion Barry, January 18, 1990, during his arrest by federal authorities after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine in a hotel room in the company of a longtime female friend.
 
2013-04-22 11:11:39 PM

machoprogrammer: To Catch a Predator was just awful. How any of those arrests stood up, I have no idea. Entertainment should NEVER be mixed with justice.


I dont know that many of them did, IIRC besides the suicide, part of the reason they canceled the show was that the conviction rate was ridiculously low. They definitely crossed the line into entrapment frequently.
 
2013-04-22 11:13:06 PM
Pen fold, shush.
 
2013-04-22 11:15:37 PM

machoprogrammer: To Catch a Predator was just awful. How any of those arrests stood up, I have no idea. Entertainment should NEVER be mixed with justice.


you didn't watch the show, did you?
 
2013-04-22 11:27:29 PM
My question is why would a 13/14/15 year old girl want to bang some 40/50/60 year old dude?

If you are 40/50/60 old dude on the Internet and you somehow encounter a 13/14/15 year old girl who wants to bang you, would you just assume s/he was a cop or another weirdo pretending to be said 13/14/15?
 
2013-04-23 12:02:54 AM
Vigilante justice is fine as long as the victim is a jew black commie pedophile!
 
2013-04-23 12:03:07 AM
dantheman195: My question is why would a 13/14/15 year old girl want to bang some 40/50/60 year old dude?

If you are 40/50/60 old dude on the Internet and you somehow encounter a 13/14/15 year old girl who wants to bang you, would you just assume s/he was a cop or another weirdo pretending to be said 13/14/15?


1)  Daddy issues

2)  Most normal guys, yes.  But, predators are usually far beyond "normal" and have a tendency to look on themselves as still being young and attractive, letting their fantasy rule their everyday lives.  Many tend to view themselves as though they are teenagers and for many believe that makes it perfectly acceptable for them to have relations with teenagers.


CSB:
My cousin was held by some vigilantes trying to do the TCAP thing.  He was lost trying to find a friend's house who happened to live across the street from the place they were doing the sting operation.  He rang the doorbell and when a young girl answered the door, he asked for his friend.  She said, "Yeah.  He's in the kitchen.  Come on in!"  She ran upstairs after pointing him to the kitchen.  He walked to the kitchen where he was met with a video camera and some angry-looking guys who started yelling at him making a big deal about how my cousin was a predator and a pervert, etc., not letting him get a word in edgewise.  My cousin didn't say one word during the whole thing and just told them to call the police if they were so sure he was there for the girl.  Instead, they took him out to the front lawn and pepper-sprayed him while beating him and yelling at him, calling him a pervert.

My cousin's friend saw what was happening and called the police and rushed to help him.  The vigilantes were arrested for hate crimes since my cousin is flamboyantly gay and they assaulted him while calling him a pervert.  He also won a small settlement against them to cover his "medical expenses."

/Vigilantes need to watch themselves and not let bravado blind their eyes to obvious gayness.
 
2013-04-23 12:04:50 AM

machoprogrammer: davynelson: i LOVED to catch a predator
there was never any 'misunderstanding' about what was said online
those assholes were looking to bone a 13 year old...

and i commend the show, even if someone killed himself after being caught.
too bad they all didn't

Yeah, except Perverted Justice was often paid more by NBC to get the guys to show up, so their decoy begged the guy to come over. Which is, you know, entrapment, except when it is done to catch "bad guys". And the guy who killed himself didn't even show up... He decided it was wrong and didn't show up, and they farking went to his house with a camera. I am glad NBC got the shiat sued out of them for it


Hell, I think a Texas DA threw out every case they got out of a local sting because Von Erck & Co. wouldn't divulge unedited transcripts.  And if Texas--who has executed mentally disabled people--will not prosecute your case, then yeah, you don't have one.
 
2013-04-23 12:39:23 AM
off on a charge?
the police aren't even involved unless they already catch the guy, so they cannot possibly make things worse.

if they weren't chatting up a decoy, they would be working on a real victim.

the only valid complaint is if a police sting is foiled because the pervert goes for the the wrong bait.

/kill em all
/let god decide
/if there is no god, we only killed some horny monkeys with advanced verbal skills. big deal.
 
2013-04-23 12:39:58 AM

clivecusslerfan: dantheman195: My question is why would a 13/14/15 year old girl want to bang some 40/50/60 year old dude?

If you are 40/50/60 old dude on the Internet and you somehow encounter a 13/14/15 year old girl who wants to bang you, would you just assume s/he was a cop or another weirdo pretending to be said 13/14/15?

1)  Daddy issues

2)  Most normal guys, yes.  But, predators are usually far beyond "normal" and have a tendency to look on themselves as still being young and attractive, letting their fantasy rule their everyday lives.  Many tend to view themselves as though they are teenagers and for many believe that makes it perfectly acceptable for them to have relations with teenagers.



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2013-04-23 12:50:34 AM
One more time: there are no teenage girls who want to hookup with your fat middle aged ass.  Unless you're rich, then they're just in it for the money.  But there are plenty of chubby 30-something women on craigslist with self image issues who will put out for a dinner at the Sizzler.
 
2013-04-23 12:53:45 AM

NewWorldDan: One more time: there are no teenage girls who want to hookup with your fat middle aged ass.  Unless you're rich, then they're just in it for the money.  But there are plenty of chubby 30-something women on craigslist with self image issues who will put out for a dinner at the Sizzler.


(In best scruffy voice) second.
 
2013-04-23 01:21:48 AM

dantheman195: My question is why would a 13/14/15 year old girl want to bang some 40/50/60 year old dude?

If you are 40/50/60 old dude on the Internet and you somehow encounter a 13/14/15 year old girl who wants to bang you, would you just assume s/he was a cop or another weirdo pretending to be said 13/14/15?


Exactly. This exercise is less about reducing the number of sexual predators as it is in reducing the number of idiots. The downside, of course, is that by culling the pedo herd of it's stupider members, we are strengthening the herd overall. Then, of course, we will be faced by the depredations of SUPER-PEDO!
 
2013-04-23 01:31:05 AM
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2013-04-23 01:37:49 AM
It's not like they have to really go out of their way. All they need do is hang around a church.
 
2013-04-23 02:35:29 AM

Dumski: 'Ave a seat over there gov'ner...



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Cor blimey! You come over all funny mate.
 
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