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2013-04-22 08:21:09 PM
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2013-04-22 08:35:28 PM
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The horror... the horror...
 
2013-04-22 08:36:03 PM
Make it like Steam - any device can sign into an account, but any other device will automatically sign out of that same account. That should stop enough of the issue for single accounts.
 
2013-04-22 08:49:16 PM
So? It was inevitable. $8 for unlimited and no commercials. Solution: tighten the net.
 
2013-04-22 09:07:04 PM
Meh... we use one account for our household. It's rare that we're ever watching 2 streams at the same time, but I don't want to have to maintain 3 different accounts on our Blue Ray, XBox, and PC's. OTOH, I'd gladly pay a few more dollars a month for a family plan that lets each of us keep our own instant queue as long as switching users is relatively painless.
 
2013-04-22 09:48:53 PM
I'm watching Netflix on a "borrowed" account, so I'm getting a kick....
 
2013-04-22 10:19:36 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Make it like Steam - any device can sign into an account, but any other device will automatically sign out of that same account. That should stop enough of the issue for single accounts.


They already have that, except they limit it to 2 people streaming simultaneously. Any more than that and you can't play anything until someone stops. What they want to do is limit the number of machines total. So once you authorize your desktop to play Netflix movies, you'd have to pay an additional fee to use Netflix on another PC/tablet/smartphone/xbox/etc. (or however many devices they initially allow you to use).
 
2013-04-22 10:39:57 PM

scottydoesntknow: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Make it like Steam - any device can sign into an account, but any other device will automatically sign out of that same account. That should stop enough of the issue for single accounts.

They already have that, except they limit it to 2 people streaming simultaneously. Any more than that and you can't play anything until someone stops. What they want to do is limit the number of machines total. So once you authorize your desktop to play Netflix movies, you'd have to pay an additional fee to use Netflix on another PC/tablet/smartphone/xbox/etc. (or however many devices they initially allow you to use).


I'm sure they are going to limit IPs, not individual devices.  That would be insane if they were.
 
2013-04-22 11:20:59 PM

Altair: I'm sure they are going to limit IPs, not individual devices.  That would be insane if they were.


Limiting IPs would be crazier for those of us who have Netflix on a portable device (like my tablet), and that's assuming that my phone doesn't change IPs
No, a system (which I think that they already have in place, even if it is not active) that limits the number of active sessions would be far better, this way you make sure that the service is only being used in X number of places, regardless of how many places the user might use the service from (same idea was what  Snarcoleptic_Hoosier had said)
 
2013-04-22 11:29:55 PM

the_sidewinder: Altair: I'm sure they are going to limit IPs, not individual devices.  That would be insane if they were.

Limiting IPs would be crazier for those of us who have Netflix on a portable device (like my tablet), and that's assuming that my phone doesn't change IPs
No, a system (which I think that they already have in place, even if it is not active) that limits the number of active sessions would be far better, this way you make sure that the service is only being used in X number of places, regardless of how many places the user might use the service from (same idea was what  Snarcoleptic_Hoosier had said)


I mean concurrent IPs which is basically what you said.
 
2013-04-22 11:33:55 PM
Oh gee. Are they worried about me loaning out my netflix account so people can watch a selection of bollywood movies and "The Facts of Life"?

Still waiting for Netflix Canada to improve. Since they had a record quarter, they better damn well throw us a bone. For me, that'd be more science fiction TV shows (not just TNG and nothing else, except some old old Doctor Who serials).
 
2013-04-23 12:29:09 AM
On hindsight, the lack of other sci-fi shows might be because Bell Media owns SPACE and has the broadcast right to a lot of them, and in Canada, it's first come-first-served because our broadcasting laws haven't evolved past 1960. And Bell wanted to buy Astral and make its own competitor to Netflix, which I'm sure would've a) cost more, b) offered even less, and c) probably had obnoxious popups or other advertising that could not be disabled.

/I hate Bell so much.
 
2013-04-23 01:26:49 AM
so let me get this straight....according to the article the CEO of Netflix isn't actually saying they are going to do this, but a bunch of stock analysts who think Netflix should be more profitable say they should do these things to increase profit.

correct?
 
2013-04-23 01:29:38 AM
Netflix wants more money. Cracking down on customers sharing accountsto go out of business.

FTFY
 
2013-04-23 01:30:01 AM
 
2013-04-23 01:32:05 AM

log_jammin: so let me get this straight....according to the article the CEO of Netflix isn't actually saying they are going to do this, but a bunch of stock analysts who think Netflix should be more profitable say they should do these things to increase profit.

correct?


Just came to post this. Wall Street once again wants to drive a good company to ruin. The CEO of Netflix seems to be rather reluctant to rock the boat with moves that might piss off customers, so that's good. The article seemed to imply that he wants to get more customers by making the service better, as opposed to punishing it's existing ones.
 
2013-04-23 01:35:07 AM

Altair: I'm sure they are going to limit IPs, not individual devices.  That would be insane if they were.


This. It will stop people sharing accounts in other cities.
 
2013-04-23 01:47:44 AM
There might be other ideas.

Pizza Hut is supposed to be launching an Xbox app that lets users order from their device. Why not do the same with Netflix? Pizza, movie and never having to leave the house. Instant coupons available as well
 
2013-04-23 02:01:38 AM
I'm dumping Netflix this week. Amazon Prime has a comparable streaming selection and it's growing. Netflix is stagnant. Add on all the other Prime benefits and it's a no-brainer.
 
2013-04-23 02:17:20 AM
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2013-04-23 02:42:40 AM
"He could charge extra for access to kids' programming. The company could also levy $3 each time a user wanted to register more than a limited number of devices per account."

Only a stock analyst could come up with these stupid ideas. You want to charge the parents extra for programming? Hell,those same parents will either switch over to PBS or network programming, or just buy a few DVDs that the kids will watch over and over.
 
2013-04-23 03:22:03 AM
Never used nutflix, never plan on doing so.
 
2013-04-23 03:29:30 AM
I pay $8 a month and have access to a tons of stuff. This is a far cry then the minimum $50 spent on normal TV.
But really is $8 that much for people? I would imagine 99% of the people who complain about that price spend more then that on store bought coffee a week
 
2013-04-23 03:34:54 AM

foo monkey: I'm dumping Netflix this week. Amazon Prime has a comparable streaming selection and it's growing. Netflix is stagnant. Add on all the other Prime benefits and it's a no-brainer.


Amazon Prime's UI makes me want to cut myself.  If they ever fix that I'll use it more.
 
2013-04-23 05:04:46 AM
It's been mentioned, but to make it clear, Netflix is planning none of the things in the title. The ideas are from the brilliant minds of Wall Street analysts on how Netflix can extract more profit from its existing customers. Of course none of the ideas include improving service and selection, thus increasing the number of customers. No. They only talk about squeezing more profit out of current customers.

Christ, none of the Wall Street jackals give a shiat about anything more than two quarters of performance.
 
2013-04-23 05:11:23 AM

BigBooper: It's been mentioned, but to make it clear, Netflix is planning none of the things in the title. The ideas are from the brilliant minds of Wall Street analysts on how Netflix can extract more profit from its existing customers. Of course none of the ideas include improving service and selection, thus increasing the number of customers. No. They only talk about squeezing more profit out of current customers.

Christ, none of the Wall Street jackals give a shiat about anything more than two quarters of performance.


That's the consequence of being a person who does nothing but move money back and forth. They eventually lose any concept of what an actual business does.
 
2013-04-23 05:27:53 AM
During the last big family get-together, my brother-in-law and his wife were casually asking me about Netflix and what kinds of shows were available.  I invited them to log in to my account on my laptop and explore a bit to check it out.

Those bastards went back home and logged in on their own TV and watched shiat for almost four effing months. They avoided all of our phone calls and ignored our polite "WTF" texts.  It pissed me off that they forced me to make the situation awkward by calling them out on their douchy behavior. It pissed me off even more when they acted like I was the one being douchy.

My farking kids would log in for Backyardigans and see all the shiatty pron my bro-in-law decided to recently watch.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-04-23 05:28:19 AM
Now that their customers are satisfied and the company is performing well, it's high time the number crunchers looked into ways to make it suck. First some reasonable yet unnecessary steps, and we'll get into the rest of the plan later.
 
2013-04-23 05:33:24 AM
Gotta love Wall Street vampires.  Impose punitive fees on the current customer base.  Watch the stock go up then sell before company enters a death spiral from a declining customer base and negative press.
 
2013-04-23 05:36:20 AM

teeny: During the last big family get-together, my brother-in-law and his wife were casually asking me about Netflix and what kinds of shows were available.  I invited them to log in to my account on my laptop and explore a bit to check it out.

Those bastards went back home and logged in on their own TV and watched shiat for almost four effing months. They avoided all of our phone calls and ignored our polite "WTF" texts.  It pissed me off that they forced me to make the situation awkward by calling them out on their douchy behavior. It pissed me off even more when they acted like I was the one being douchy.

My farking kids would log in for Backyardigans and see all the shiatty pron my bro-in-law decided to recently watch.

/DNRTFA


I've never shared out my Netflix account, but couldn't you just change the logon password?
 
2013-04-23 05:49:37 AM

FuManchu7: teeny: During the last big family get-together, my brother-in-law and his wife were casually asking me about Netflix and what kinds of shows were available.  I invited them to log in to my account on my laptop and explore a bit to check it out.

Those bastards went back home and logged in on their own TV and watched shiat for almost four effing months. They avoided all of our phone calls and ignored our polite "WTF" texts.  It pissed me off that they forced me to make the situation awkward by calling them out on their douchy behavior. It pissed me off even more when they acted like I was the one being douchy.

My farking kids would log in for Backyardigans and see all the shiatty pron my bro-in-law decided to recently watch.

/DNRTFA

I've never shared out my Netflix account, but couldn't you just change the logon password?


I could have, and I very nearly did. I decided not to because 1) I use the same password for many of my various accounts, and 2) They typically make selfish assumptions and no one ever confronts them about it. (e.g.  sneaking away from a family gathering to go see a movie and enjoy a leisurely dinner out while the rest of us entertain/feed/bathe/tuck-in our own snowflakes AND theirs)  so I decided to speak up that time.

/still butthurt, obviously
 
2013-04-23 05:53:53 AM
Meanwhile, in Canada, NetFlix sucks because laws dealing with television broadcasts and right's management were written by glue sniffers in 1945 apparently.
 
2013-04-23 06:04:13 AM

teeny: all the shiatty pron


Is there some version of netflix I'm unaware of???
 
2013-04-23 06:29:30 AM

teeny: During the last big family get-together, my brother-in-law and his wife were casually asking me about Netflix and what kinds of shows were available.  I invited them to log in to my account on my laptop and explore a bit to check it out.

Those bastards went back home and logged in on their own TV and watched shiat for almost four effing months. They avoided all of our phone calls and ignored our polite "WTF" texts.  It pissed me off that they forced me to make the situation awkward by calling them out on their douchy behavior. It pissed me off even more when they acted like I was the one being douchy.

My farking kids would log in for Backyardigans and see all the shiatty pron my bro-in-law decided to recently watch.

/DNRTFA


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2013-04-23 06:32:37 AM

log_jammin: teeny: all the shiatty pron

Is there some version of netflix I'm unaware of???


He is a prude who considers Poison Ivy 7 to be porn.
 
2013-04-23 06:43:33 AM

RedWolf: I pay $8 a month and have access to a tons of stuff. This is a far cry then the minimum $50 spent on normal TV.
But really is $8 that much for people? I would imagine 99% of the people who complain about that price spend more then that on store bought coffee a week


This.  It's eight freaking dollars.  It's like the Louis CK bit.  Everything's amazing, and no one's happy.  Imagine telling yourself 10 years ago that you could have instant, commercial-free streaming of thousands of titles to just about any freaking device with a screen in your house.  "Yeah, and the pirates want $8 a month for it too!  What am I going to do?  Eat one less sandwich this month?"

Also, I want to throw in on the other's comments about how the whole story is analyst BS.  A lot of stories in the news today have a authoritative headline that "XYZ is happening/going to happen" then when you look through it is just analyst opinions or baseless rumors, err I mean 'people familiar with the situation'.  Not fit to read anymore...
 
2013-04-23 06:45:32 AM

teeny: FuManchu7: teeny: During the last big family get-together, my brother-in-law and his wife were casually asking me about Netflix and what kinds of shows were available.  I invited them to log in to my account on my laptop and explore a bit to check it out.

Those bastards went back home and logged in on their own TV and watched shiat for almost four effing months. They avoided all of our phone calls and ignored our polite "WTF" texts.  It pissed me off that they forced me to make the situation awkward by calling them out on their douchy behavior. It pissed me off even more when they acted like I was the one being douchy.

My farking kids would log in for Backyardigans and see all the shiatty pron my bro-in-law decided to recently watch.

/DNRTFA

I've never shared out my Netflix account, but couldn't you just change the logon password?

I could have, and I very nearly did. I decided not to because 1) I use the same password for many of my various accounts, and 2) They typically make selfish assumptions and no one ever confronts them about it. (e.g.  sneaking away from a family gathering to go see a movie and enjoy a leisurely dinner out while the rest of us entertain/feed/bathe/tuck-in our own snowflakes AND theirs)  so I decided to speak up that time.

/still butthurt, obviously


I wonder how they got your password, especially if it's the same one you use on multiple  accounts.
 
2013-04-23 06:51:11 AM
I still haven't forgiven them for spinning off the dvd delivery to a different service.
 
kab
2013-04-23 07:01:22 AM
So Netflix actually wants to bolster torrenting, is what you're saying.
 
2013-04-23 07:08:38 AM

PapaChester: Altair: I'm sure they are going to limit IPs, not individual devices.  That would be insane if they were.

This. It will stop people sharing accounts in other cities.


What if you travel a lot? I know people that travel weekly and use netflix rather than pay $6-$8 for a PPV movie at hotels. So, fark them?
 
2013-04-23 07:26:55 AM
What if I want 3 netflix browsers open and streaming at the same time on one device?

Don't persecute me because I have ADD.
 
2013-04-23 07:37:11 AM
Not that it was the best model of how to run a business, but Rhapsody already did this a while back. Up to 3 registered computers and 3 portable devices were allowed. After that point, if you wanted to add a new device, you had to go "unauthorize" one of the older devices.

In my opinion, that method worked better than limiting access to 2 users at a time. Our household has 4 netflix users, all with different tastes. At least three times a week, one or two of us are "locked out" because the others have tied up both streams. I expect the problem to get worse once the first teen heads off to college in the Fall.

Of course, I could just stop being a cheap bastard and just buy a 2nd membership for an additional $8. It's still only about 1/6 the cost of basic cable, for about the same level of programming choices.
 
hej
2013-04-23 07:40:30 AM
OMG $8 a month the horrors nooooooooooooooooo
 
hej
2013-04-23 07:42:34 AM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Netflix wants to go out of business.

FTFY


Why would stopping theft cause them to go out of business?
 
2013-04-23 07:42:41 AM

teeny: FuManchu7: teeny: I've never shared out my Netflix account, but couldn't you just change the logon password?

I could have, and I very nearly did. I decided not to because 1) I use the same password for many of my various accounts, and


So your BIL has the password to pretty much all your accounts. Nice.

2) They typically make selfish assumptions and no one ever confronts them about it. (e.g.  sneaking away from a family gathering to go see a movie and enjoy a leisurely dinner out while the rest of us entertain/feed/bathe/tuck-in our own snowflakes AND theirs)  so I decided to speak up that time.

You really need to man up.
Get a baseball bat, go to his house, smash everything to pieces.
Then change your password.

Case Closed

//ITG graduate
 
2013-04-23 07:43:14 AM
So is Netflix actually thinking people who are sharing accounts are going to suddenly buy it themselves?  lolz  That might work for a few people, the rest will just move on to another free way to get their movie fix.  (sharing an HBO Go account perhaps)
 
2013-04-23 07:46:36 AM
Man there are ALOT of you, especially SUBBY, who fail at reading comprehension. I mean WOW. What a bunch of nattering old gossiping magpies most of you are. There is no point in that article that they actually give any evidence that Netflix is trying to do ANY of what the article suggests. It says Netflix is considering doing something to increase profit. Well no shiat. Then it proceeds to give ideas on how.You putzs read this as "OMGHERD, da netfeix is evil!!".Yeesh.
 
2013-04-23 07:47:56 AM

Mumbler: teeny: FuManchu7: teeny: I've never shared out my Netflix account, but couldn't you just change the logon password?

I could have, and I very nearly did. I decided not to because 1) I use the same password for many of my various accounts, and

So your BIL has the password to pretty much all your accounts. Nice.

2) They typically make selfish assumptions and no one ever confronts them about it. (e.g.  sneaking away from a family gathering to go see a movie and enjoy a leisurely dinner out while the rest of us entertain/feed/bathe/tuck-in our own snowflakes AND theirs)  so I decided to speak up that time.

You really need to man up.
Get a baseball bat, go to his house, smash everything to pieces.
Then change your password.

Case Closed

//ITG graduate


I'm just not buying the story.  Nobody says, "Here's my laptop, sit down and I'll spell my password for you."  You sit down, log in, and then let the other person sit down.
 
2013-04-23 07:57:13 AM

Kimpak: So is Netflix actually thinking people who are sharing accounts are going to suddenly buy it themselves?  lolz  That might work for a few people, the rest will just move on to another free way to get their movie fix.  (sharing an HBO Go account perhaps)


"A few" is still greater than 0. And then the ones that would never buy the service are no longer leaching bandwidth.
 
2013-04-23 07:58:43 AM

RedWolf: I pay $8 a month and have access to a tons of stuff. This is a far cry then the minimum $50 spent on normal TV.
But really is $8 that much for people? I would imagine 99% of the people who complain about that price spend more then that on store bought coffee a week


That's what I am thinking.   Even for two accounts, one for me and one for Mrs. Muta, it is still less expensive than cable.

I wish FOX Sports Network streamed so I could get Tiger and Wings games.
 
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