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2013-04-22 05:28:20 PM  
Wolf892: Louis CK did a pretty good bit about Child Farkers...he said that because society sees Child Farking as so very evil, it actually causes more children to be murdered (in order to hide the identity of the child farker) than if society held this crime at the same level as regular murder...something along the lines of society will try to find out "why" a murder happened, and even make excuses for a murderer "He was driven to it..."

He's not wrong though. We so demonize the child diddlers that they feel forced to have to murder their victims rather than just diddle them and let them go home. And as Louis CK says... I'm not sure what to do with that information, no idea how to use it.



Not that I want to get into an argument over this, but I'd have to see some type of study/statistics on that to buy in. LCK is wise but I don't know that he's spent a great deal of time studying deviant criminals or anything like that... And I bring this up because the FBI/DOJ HAVE done so many interviews etc with the ones they've caught that you think this concept would have come up sooner and would be pretty well known. If the info exists, please enlighten me, for reals.
 
2013-04-22 05:29:31 PM  

megarian: I played a video game porn with sexualized D&D characters while dressed as an underage pixie and now I love to comit satanically-enhanced homicides.


/I came
 
2013-04-22 05:31:50 PM  
Please please please make it illegal for pony porns so we can send basically the whole fanbase of MLP to prison. And furries.
 
2013-04-22 05:32:19 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Because Pixies can lead to Brownies?


Well, there's your problem. Brownies are Girl Scouts... and fairies wish they were Girl Scouts.
 
2013-04-22 05:32:57 PM  

Yuri Futanari: Frankly anyone here defending this deviant porn is as guilty as those who watch it.  You are all sick and should be on some kind of watchlists at the very least, "normal" heterosexual pornography is harmful enough as it is without proliferating the really disturbed stuff.


What does "Futanari" mean?
 
2013-04-22 05:35:27 PM  

ko_kyi: Yuri Futanari: Frankly anyone here defending this deviant porn is as guilty as those who watch it.  You are all sick and should be on some kind of watchlists at the very least, "normal" heterosexual pornography is harmful enough as it is without proliferating the really disturbed stuff.

What does "Futanari" mean?


It's when you play video games in Europe with sushi using your feet.
 
2013-04-22 05:35:31 PM  

ko_kyi: Yuri Futanari: Frankly anyone here defending this deviant porn is as guilty as those who watch it.  You are all sick and should be on some kind of watchlists at the very least, "normal" heterosexual pornography is harmful enough as it is without proliferating the really disturbed stuff.

What does "Futanari" mean?


GIS and learn.
 
2013-04-22 05:36:31 PM  
No pictures of Ludivine Sangier yet I see. Allow me to contribute:

imworld.aufeminin.com

From the 2003 Peter Pan. She was also naked in...well, just about everything else she's been in besides Peter Pan.
 
2013-04-22 05:36:48 PM  

Tatsuma: Please please please make it illegal for pony porns so we can send basically the whole fanbase of MLP to prison. And furries.


"Please ban pony porn!" Tatsuma said furriously.
 
2013-04-22 05:36:52 PM  

Lumpmoose: I don't get the bans on virtual child porn.  The whole theory of illegal possession is that it creates an industry that exploits children.  But if you ban virtual porn as well, you're only encouraging the pedophile to target real children.  They already can't go to a psychiatrist because of mandatory reporting laws.  So we're basically relying on the good will of underground pedophiles to get their rocks off in ways that don't exploit children.

Pedophiles don't choose to be pedophiles and being one doesn't mean you actually abuse children--only that there's a sexual attraction.  Stupid quotes like this:

"The ways a person entertains themself is not morally negligible. This is probably an additional factor in the current case because as well as worrying about the effects these activities might have on children, we also naturally make moral judgments about the character of the person in question."

proves some people want to use the law to target people merely because of who they are and not for their activities, which isn't justice.


You sound like a Savage reader
 
2013-04-22 05:38:27 PM  

Grables'Daughter: Smeggy Smurf: Nabb1: "Fap if you love Tinkerbell!"

I get to molest Tink every night.

/true story

Pics or it didn't happen.


Mrs. Smurf will not appreciate having her Tinkerbell tattoo splashed across Fark.  Y'all a bunch of weirdos here.
 
2013-04-22 05:39:58 PM  

megarian: LordJiro: ECPAT Child Alert director Alan Bell believes that the suggestive images are illegal because they prompt people "to migrate from there to the real thing,"

That argument is bullshiat when it claims violent video games make people murder, it's bullshiat when it claims D&D leads to Satanism, and it's bullshiat here.

I don't know, man....

I played a video game porn with sexualized D&D characters while dressed as an underage pixie and now I love to comit satanically-enhanced homicides.


I knew I had you favorited for a reason!
 
2013-04-22 05:41:29 PM  
www.itsalldirect2u.com

Sweet & sour artificially flavored goodness!
 
2013-04-22 05:41:57 PM  

Tatsuma: Please please please make it illegal for pony porns so we can send basically the whole fanbase of MLP to prison. And furries.


Cat ears, the gate way to furries

img826.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-22 05:43:12 PM  
Then you move on...

Then a little tail gets involved

img856.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-22 05:43:35 PM  
Everyone posting pics...stop.  Just...stop.

Please.

Think of the kittens.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-22 05:43:49 PM  

Snarfangel: "Please ban pony porn!" Tatsuma said furriously.


yes indeed. If fake children = child pornography, surely fake animals = bestiality

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Cat ears, the gate way to furries


what cat ears?

/furries are the type of people who look at that picture and think she needs to be covered up and made to look like a cat
//i mean, what the fark
 
2013-04-22 05:44:17 PM  

Tatsuma: Please please please make it illegal for pony porns so we can send basically the whole fanbase of MLP to prison. And furries.


Technically, it's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grea t-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-gr eat-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great- great-great-great-great-granny porn.

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-22 05:44:23 PM  
(don't stop)
 
2013-04-22 05:44:24 PM  
Then boom!!

img694.imageshack.us

you've gone too far!
 
2013-04-22 05:45:43 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Tatsuma: Please please please make it illegal for pony porns so we can send basically the whole fanbase of MLP to prison. And furries.

Cat ears, the gate way to furries


Meow!
 
2013-04-22 05:45:48 PM  

Magnanimous_J: JesusJuice: I have fapped MIGHTILY to Bondage Faeries in my time

I can't tell if you're joking or not. But for safety's sake "What the hell is wrong with you!?"


Nothing?  The thing about cartoon pornography is that the characters can be put into more bizarre and farked-up situations than you could ever do with human actors, and no one gets hurt or abused in any way so there's no guilt.  Whatever bizarre sexual fantasy you may have can be safely indulged with drawn porn, and unlike mainstream pornography, doesn't require that we consider questions of consent, legality, or exploitation.
 
2013-04-22 05:46:01 PM  
One in the 'Belle, two in the smell?
 
2013-04-22 05:46:09 PM  
I now have a new fetish. Cool!
 
2013-04-22 05:47:01 PM  
 
2013-04-22 05:48:50 PM  

carrion_luggage: One in the 'Belle, two in the smell?


Two in the fairy, one in the.... uhh.... uhhhh.... ass.
 
2013-04-22 05:50:22 PM  
Image shack is not my friend today...
 
2013-04-22 05:51:33 PM  
Lumpmoose

I don't get the bans on virtual child porn. The whole theory of illegal possession is that it creates an industry that exploits children. But if you ban virtual porn as well, you're only encouraging the pedophile to target real children. They already can't go to a psychiatrist because of mandatory reporting laws. So we're basically relying on the good will of underground pedophiles to get their rocks off in ways that don't exploit children.

Pedophiles don't choose to be pedophiles and being one doesn't mean you actually abuse children--only that there's a sexual attraction. Stupid quotes like this:

"The ways a person entertains themself is not morally negligible. This is probably an additional factor in the current case because as well as worrying about the effects these activities might have on children, we also naturally make moral judgments about the character of the person in question."

proves some people want to use the law to target people merely because of who they are and not for their activities, which isn't justice.


Congratulations Sir! You have a brain and actually use it!

The extraordinary uproar over perceived child molesters is media driven, backed up by politicians who use it as a 'good will' act to encourage votes.

I actually have studied porn over the years and broke it down into several categories but something I noticed is that there is a large group of people who get all steamed up over certain forms of porn, but would never actually do it themselves.

Cartoon porn has risen in predominance since the creation of the Internet, mainly because the characters are fantasy. No one is getting hurt. Often they tend to look better than actual human beings. They can commit improbable acts not possible in real life and show up in the next chapter unhurt and just fine.

There is a very small possibility that in child porn, depicted in cartoons, that a hard core pedophile will attempt to copy an act, but, then again, cartoon images or not, a hard core pedophile will commit sexual violations against children anyhow.

They can't help it.

Ever met anyone into bondage or sadism? They can't help it either. It's in their genes. I've seen some pretty gross, LEGAL stuff performed among consenting adults that would send me screaming from the room but which turns them on tremendously.

Yeah, there's about a thousand theories as to why these legal perverts do what they do, but they actually make up only a small percentage of the normal population.

A larger percentage of 'normal' folks might view images of such acts and get all steamed up, but never experience them for themselves. That's like teens and young adults coming across grizzly images of death and mangled bodies. Most can't stop themselves from looking at them.

Which is why so many very detailed horror movies have been big hits. (Like SAW.) In the 1950's you never saw anyone get their guts ripped out in living color or face chewed off right down to the crunching of the bones. Yet 99.99% of the viewers will NOT go out and disembowel someone.

There was a comic book in the 50's and 60's that came out displaying graphic images of decaying bodies of the undead, people being torn apart and gallons of spraying blood. Within a year it was banned by law.

Now, you see all of what it displayed on TV -- and much, much more -- and more realistic. Yet, the movies are not banned. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre in all of it's incarnations has lasted for decades and SAW takes things even further, with bloody, hideous torture.

So, now you have cartoons of fantasy figures which resemble children involved in sex acts, most improbable, and you can now be arrested, convicted, jailed and made into a social outcast for daring to view or copy any of them, even if you never intended to act.

Because you MIGHT decide to copy what you saw.

I've seen shiat eaters in porn and there's no way I would even want to be in the same room with those folks. Then there are the cutters: folks who get steamed up by getting slightly cut with razor blades during sex. Sorry. Whip out a razor on me or most folks I know during sex and cut me and the ol' Steel Pole will wilt like a noodle and I'll run like hell.

Yet, I know of folks who like to see images of such things -- but not get cut on.

Imagery is a powerful force, which is why we have so much art. It hits you in areas often in your subconscious. What you might consider a thing of fantastic beauty, they guy next to you might consider it junk. I see 'American Primitives' all of the time and all they remind me of is a 6 year old doing, poorly, a painting. Though others praise these things as great works.

Cartooning is an art form. It affects people like regular art. (I can't stand the basic graphic art in comic books and things drawn like 'Adventure Time' creep me out, while 'Ren and Stimpy' was downright disgusting -- yet all are legal.)

However, toss in anything which has a kid getting sex, even depicted as willingly among other members of their own age group -- and you're a perv. Slime of the earth. You should be burned at the stake and your ashes buried in a dump.

Though it's fine if you watch people being slowly disemboweled, devoured alive, pulled apart, hearts ripped out, blown into a scattering of wet, bloody, steaming body parts or fed, screaming, into a wood chipper.

That's OK.

Rape cartoons are just fine also, so long as they deal with adults. You get to view massive penises being rammed impossibly deep into victims, which would tear apart organs, break ribs and cause substantial blood loose and fatality, but that's legal. It's just fine.

Download a cartoon 10 year old having sex with another cartoon 10 year old and you go to jail. Even if they're depicted as happy and not mutilating each other.

Rape is a real problem, but you will not go to jail for filling your computer with images of rape between adults.

Many of you get steamed up over rape images -- but you'd never do actual rape! Maybe play rape with a willing partner -- yes, such acts do exist.

A true pedophile is bound to commit acts of molestation because he or she is driven by a compulsion which overrides the brain. (Kind of like when you were 22 and drunk and the girl next to you was drunk and passed out and the opportunity was there for Date Rape -- only you didn't consider it that.)

Most of you got so steamed up in sexual situations that you just threw caution -- and cloths -- to the winds if you didn't have protection with you.

That's how powerful the compulsion is.

Of course, no one gives a shiat about that. The molester is a perv. He or she needs to be removed from society and forever watched. They may as well brand PERV across their foreheads since their rights to privacy are willingly violated.

The primary side effect of all of these vague sex offender laws and the media inflamed public, is that true molesters used to leave the majority of their victims alive.

Now, they're killing more of them to avoid getting caught and tossed basically into a living hell.

Like the Three Strikes law was to get career criminals off the streets and lower crime. It unexpectedly resulted in such criminals now killing witnesses where before they used to leave more of them alive.

Why not? You're going to jail for life for stealing $60 from a cash register, might as well kill the cashier and the two customers and maybe you can get away with it.

Even shrinks have a hard time presenting discoveries and theories about molesters for fear they'll be branded as closet molesters themselves.

So remember. You can't download a cartoon, kid-like image having willing sex, even with other kid-like images, but you CAN download mimages of kids being torn apart, mauled, shredded, tortured and gutted.

After all, the latter only deals with torture and hideous pain as well as death. The prior deals with SEX! You MIGHT act on the sexual one.

I'm not going into the murder/pain/torture as part of a sexual turn on either. That's a whole other observation.
 
2013-04-22 05:52:59 PM  

JesusJuice: Magnanimous_J: JesusJuice: I have fapped MIGHTILY to Bondage Faeries in my time

I can't tell if you're joking or not. But for safety's sake "What the hell is wrong with you!?"

Nothing?  The thing about cartoon pornography is that the characters can be put into more bizarre and farked-up situations than you could ever do with human actors, and no one gets hurt or abused in any way so there's no guilt.  Whatever bizarre sexual fantasy you may have can be safely indulged with drawn porn, and unlike mainstream pornography, doesn't require that we consider questions of consent, legality, or exploitation.


Right, but if you are watching a cartoon depicting two 10-year olds going at it, or a 12-year old girl...  sure, nobody was hurt in the making of that movie, but someone might be hurt by viewing it, or it may encourage further depredation or whatever.

There is a fine line between harmlessly channeling an odd kink, and actively encouraging those kinks to develop into full on exploitative behavior and needs.
 
2013-04-22 05:53:07 PM  
Subby missed the part about the previous child sexual abuse convictions.
 
2013-04-22 05:53:15 PM  
I think we have to stick with images and videos of actual children and not those of virtual children. I understand the thought process is to protect children, but viewing virtual children entails that there is no victim other then maybe one's own mental health so there should be no crime. We can not as a society begin to engage in prosecution based on a belief that viewing material depicting a crime will result in the subject committing that crime. There has to be more evidence of intent for prosecution. I still question the logic in prosecuting people in possession of real child pornography that they themselves were not involved in. I argue that reducing the demand is not going to affect those producing the child pornography, because those people for the most part are just filming/photographing the molestation they would normally commit.
 
2013-04-22 05:56:38 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Ed Grubermann: Nana's Vibrator: True, technically it might be a bit of a jump if you equate animated pictures to real pictures.  But I'm pretty comfortable jumping to a conclusion that the defenders in here are into children.  Don't hurt real children.

Yes, let's nip this reasonable (for once) conversation in the bud by poisoning the well. You must be so proud of yourself.

Thank you for taking exception to my comment in a thread about pixie porn.  Perhaps we all need better things to do with our time.  In the meantime, stop encouraging the molestation of children.  Your agreement with the conversation doesn't make abuse reasonable nor does it make it right.


Yea, this is Fark alright. A person named "Nana's Vibrator" is questioning the morals of a poster.
 
2013-04-22 05:59:53 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Ed Grubermann: Nana's Vibrator: True, technically it might be a bit of a jump if you equate animated pictures to real pictures.  But I'm pretty comfortable jumping to a conclusion that the defenders in here are into children.  Don't hurt real children.

Yes, let's nip this reasonable (for once) conversation in the bud by poisoning the well. You must be so proud of yourself.

Thank you for taking exception to my comment in a thread about pixie porn.  Perhaps we all need better things to do with our time.  In the meantime, stop encouraging the molestation of children.  Your agreement with the conversation doesn't make abuse reasonable nor does it make it right.


You seem to know a lot about abusing children.

3.bp.blogspot.com

I'm watching you, buddy.
 
2013-04-22 06:00:33 PM  
If you don't like pornography please do one of the following:

a. Don't watch it but leave people alone who do.
b. Kill yourself.
 
2013-04-22 06:02:02 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

fc04.deviantart.net

fc06.deviantart.net

/this is also a bookmark
 
2013-04-22 06:03:02 PM  

Wolf892: Louis CK did a pretty good bit about Child Farkers...he said that because society sees Child Farking as so very evil, it actually causes more children to be murdered (in order to hide the identity of the child farker) than if society held this crime at the same level as regular murder...something along the lines of society will try to find out "why" a murder happened, and even make excuses for a murderer "He was driven to it..."

He's not wrong though. We so demonize the child diddlers that they feel forced to have to murder their victims rather than just diddle them and let them go home. And as Louis CK says... I'm not sure what to do with that information, no idea how to use it.


well, the law still treats murder worse than child rape.  for this reason, you can't have the worst punishment for less than the worst outcome.  presumably, the worst outcome is a dead person, especially if they're going to be raped either way.
 
2013-04-22 06:03:25 PM  
The ways a person entertains themself is not morally negligible.

"Themself"? And fark you. If I want to fark a dead chicken for entertainment it's nobody's business but my own.
 
2013-04-22 06:04:58 PM  
"The distribution of it is damaging," Bell said. "You have to ask what impact does it have even if it's not harming [an individual child]."

How do people this farked up get to be in charge of anything important?
 
2013-04-22 06:06:31 PM  

i.r.id10t: When it comes to technology vs. magic, for some reason, the magic always has the hotter babes...

[thereservoirblogs.files.wordpress.com image 600x325]


ngarud.files.wordpress.com

www.matrixfans.net
www.fernbyfilms.com

About that.
 
2013-04-22 06:08:48 PM  

Amos Quito: [www.itsalldirect2u.com image 300x300]

Sweet & sour artificially flavored goodness!


your doing it wrong...
 
2013-04-22 06:08:56 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Ed Grubermann: Nana's Vibrator: True, technically it might be a bit of a jump if you equate animated pictures to real pictures.  But I'm pretty comfortable jumping to a conclusion that the defenders in here are into children.  Don't hurt real children.

Yes, let's nip this reasonable (for once) conversation in the bud by poisoning the well. You must be so proud of yourself.

Thank you for taking exception to my comment in a thread about pixie porn.  Perhaps we all need better things to do with our time.  In the meantime, stop encouraging the molestation of children.  Your agreement with the conversation doesn't make abuse reasonable nor does it make it right.


I'm not encouraging child molestation. I'm encouraging giving these people a safe, legal outlet for their feelings that does not involve the victimization of (real) children. I'm sorry you'd rather put real children at higher risk because you lack the ability to think rationally.
 
2013-04-22 06:08:58 PM  

Mobutu: JesusJuice: Magnanimous_J: JesusJuice: I have fapped MIGHTILY to Bondage Faeries in my time

I can't tell if you're joking or not. But for safety's sake "What the hell is wrong with you!?"

Nothing?  The thing about cartoon pornography is that the characters can be put into more bizarre and farked-up situations than you could ever do with human actors, and no one gets hurt or abused in any way so there's no guilt.  Whatever bizarre sexual fantasy you may have can be safely indulged with drawn porn, and unlike mainstream pornography, doesn't require that we consider questions of consent, legality, or exploitation.

Right, but if you are watching a cartoon depicting two 10-year olds going at it, or a 12-year old girl...  sure, nobody was hurt in the making of that movie, but someone might be hurt by viewing it, or it may encourage further depredation or whatever.

There is a fine line between harmlessly channeling an odd kink, and actively encouraging those kinks to develop into full on exploitative behavior and needs.


Meh.  We're talking about Bondage Faeries.  The Faeries are several centuries old; well above the age of consent.

As to your pedophilia example, the argument can also be made that having a way to channel deviant sexuality in a way that harms no one is safer than simply repressing it.  No one is harmed in the making of a cartoon, and to argue that certain depictions should be illegal because they may encourage deviant behavior is analogous to saying that violent media should be censored because it may lead to violent behavior; there's no convincing evidence for either, certainly not enough to justify curtailing freedom of expression.
 
2013-04-22 06:10:07 PM  

JesusJuice: Wingchild: WippitGuud: Bondage Faeries?

(don't want to GIS for a pic at work)

[loteyrose.com image 500x500]

Yes, we can go there.

I have fapped MIGHTILY to Bondage Faeries in my time.  I like when the two chick faeries lez out, not so much when they have sex with insects, birds, and ground squirrels.


Don't qualify it.  Humanity needs to realize that the internet didn't make sexuality weirder, it just stuck a mirror in front of our face and forced us to see ourselves for the first time.   The sooner everyone realizeswhat lies behind the false Victorian masks we wear in real life is a hyper-sexual mammal in a state of denial the better off we all will be.

I don't care if that's your kink or not.  Life's too short to worry about what other people like to fap when it harms no-one.
 
2013-04-22 06:11:34 PM  

Parthenogenetic: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 600x399]

[fc04.deviantart.net image 600x900]

[fc06.deviantart.net image 850x1274]

/this is also a bookmark


Damn you.  I really had work to do tonight.
 
2013-04-22 06:12:15 PM  

Tatsuma: Snarfangel: "Please ban pony porn!" Tatsuma said furriously.

yes indeed. If fake children = child pornography, surely fake animals = bestiality


And?
 
2013-04-22 06:12:23 PM  
from what i am seeing this content is banned from the general public, he violated his parole agreement by having it

same as someone with a DUI conviction drinking while on parole
 
2013-04-22 06:13:42 PM  

kim jong-un: JesusJuice: Wingchild: WippitGuud: Bondage Faeries?

(don't want to GIS for a pic at work)

[loteyrose.com image 500x500]

Yes, we can go there.

I have fapped MIGHTILY to Bondage Faeries in my time.  I like when the two chick faeries lez out, not so much when they have sex with insects, birds, and ground squirrels.

Don't qualify it. Humanity needs to realize that the internet didn't make sexuality weirder, it just stuck a mirror in front of our face and forced us to see ourselves for the first time.   The sooner everyone realizeswhat lies behind the false Victorian masks we wear in real life is a hyper-sexual mammal in a state of denial the better off we all will be.

I don't care if that's your kink or not.  Life's too short to worry about what other people like to fap when it harms no-one.


I'm not saying I'm against it when they screw insects or that I disapprove of people who fap to that, just that I personally skip those bits in favor of them lezzing out.
 
2013-04-22 06:15:34 PM  

Mobutu: sure, nobody was hurt in the making of that movie, but someone might be hurt by viewing it,


How?  Turn the brightness on their monitor too high and damage their eyesight?
 
2013-04-22 06:15:46 PM  

This text is now purple: i.r.id10t: When it comes to technology vs. magic, for some reason, the magic always has the hotter babes...

[thereservoirblogs.files.wordpress.com image 600x325]

[ngarud.files.wordpress.com image 505x626]

[www.matrixfans.net image 699x348]
[www.fernbyfilms.com image 800x371]

About that.


Yeah, you're proving the other guy's point with those. If you want Sci Fi hotties, try posting an actual sci fi hottie.

famousmonsters.com

A bit 80's in the hair dept. but better than whatever has a helmet cut.
 
2013-04-22 06:20:14 PM  
But I thought New Zealand was ok with fairies now.
 
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