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(Some sunspot guy)   Sunspot AR1726 is now Beta-Gamma-Delta.... time for X flares? EVERYBODY PANIC   (solarham.net) divider line 57
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2013-04-22 01:39:40 PM
Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.
 
2013-04-22 01:40:11 PM
Lets all get drunk!
 
2013-04-22 01:40:17 PM
Is it something I have to give a rat's ass about?
 
2013-04-22 01:40:54 PM
Will it give us mutant powers?
 
2013-04-22 01:42:18 PM
www.twopotscreamer.com

I hear those Beta Gamma Deltas really put out.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-22 01:42:50 PM
X flares was a really overrated show.
 
2013-04-22 01:43:21 PM

texdent: Will it give us mutant powers?


Does cancer count?
 
2013-04-22 01:43:54 PM
Lens flares is a really overrated effect.
 
2013-04-22 01:45:33 PM

fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.


I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.
 
2013-04-22 01:46:12 PM
Crap, I still have enemy mantis on board!

images.eurogamer.net
 
2013-04-22 01:49:01 PM
I'm in a giant Faraday cage, laughing at your puny [pop] bzztsizzle ...

/
dammit
 
2013-04-22 01:49:03 PM
I hate when sun spots get all touristy.
 
2013-04-22 01:49:17 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


Is this his sofa, then?
 
2013-04-22 01:49:24 PM
"Delta? I hate those guys."
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-04-22 01:52:44 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


The trick to keeping all your electronics safe is to submerge them in salt water when the EMP hits.  It's called a Liquid Faraday cage.
 
2013-04-22 01:54:35 PM

BigLuca: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

The trick to keeping all your electronics safe is to submerge them in salt water when the EMP hits.  It's called a Liquid Faraday cage.


In case anyone took me seriously, I"m kidding and don't do this.
 
2013-04-22 01:57:40 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


I'm not an expert either, but a little investigation and a basic understanding of how generators work indicates;
haacked.com

Think of your simple lawn mower; magnetic field used to create electricity to fire the spark plug.
 
2013-04-22 02:05:39 PM

Odd Bird: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

I'm not an expert either, but a little investigation and a basic understanding of how generators work indicates;
[haacked.com image 274x205]

Think of your simple lawn mower; magnetic field used to create electricity to fire the spark plug.


The way I usually explain EMP is like a reverse Electromagnet, as we know them.

I mean, your basic electromagnet works like this: You run current through wire, and you get a magnetic field.

An EMP is the reverse process; a(n ostensibly) brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).

Surprisingly few people understand how bad that would be.
 
2013-04-22 02:06:35 PM
Is Beta Gamma Delta phonetic for Big Goddamn Deal?


/you got your particles in my layman
 
2013-04-22 02:08:52 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


"Ah," nodded Arthur, "is he? Is he?" He pushed his hands into the pocket of his dressing gown and looked knowledgeably into the distance.
 
2013-04-22 02:12:57 PM

LavenderWolf: brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).


Hence the lawn mower analogy.
 
2013-04-22 02:14:15 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: texdent: Will it give us mutant powers?

Does cancer count?


Does the cancer give you mutant powers? If yes, then yes.

What is cancer, anyway? Those are living cells. How dare you remove them forcibly from another person's body, even if they want them removed? Did anyone ask the cells? THINK OF THE MUTANT CANCER CELLS!!!11!!!1
 
2013-04-22 02:15:08 PM
Welcomes our intergalactic flair overlords:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-22 02:15:09 PM

Stabone33: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: texdent: Will it give us mutant powers?

Does cancer count?

Does the cancer give you mutant powers? If yes, then yes.

What is cancer, anyway? Those are living cells. How dare you remove them forcibly from another person's body, even if they want them removed? Did anyone ask the cells? THINK OF THE MUTANT CANCER CELLS!!!11!!!1


//Forgot to add, when AR1726's are outlawed, only outlaws will have AR1726's.
 
2013-04-22 02:17:08 PM

Odd Bird: LavenderWolf: brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).

Hence the lawn mower analogy.


I find people can more easily relate to the idea of a "reverse electromagnet" than an explanation of how spark plugs work.
 
2013-04-22 02:26:53 PM
Beta-Gamma-Delta -- Is that the fraternity that marches around wearing Islamic garb like they're all Malcolm X wannabes?  What's up with that?
 
2013-04-22 02:34:23 PM

LavenderWolf: Odd Bird: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

I'm not an expert either, but a little investigation and a basic understanding of how generators work indicates;
[haacked.com image 274x205]

Think of your simple lawn mower; magnetic field used to create electricity to fire the spark plug.

The way I usually explain EMP is like a reverse Electromagnet, as we know them.

I mean, your basic electromagnet works like this: You run current through wire, and you get a magnetic field.

An EMP is the reverse process; a(n ostensibly) brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).

Surprisingly few people understand how bad that would be.



That is why the first strike of a nuclear war would include a high altitude burst. Enough energy to take out any non-hardened communications over a large portion of the country.
 
2013-04-22 02:39:35 PM
 
2013-04-22 02:45:02 PM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-22 02:52:01 PM
When we colonize the Sun we'll need to bring more sunblock.
/And go at night
 
2013-04-22 04:01:10 PM
tells you to get more Flare!

www.photoinduced.com
 
2013-04-22 04:02:42 PM

Cubicle Jockey: Crap, I still have enemy mantis on board!

[images.eurogamer.net image 600x338]


Man I hate jumping into those 'hot' sectors. The game is tough enough w/o em. Fun though.
 
2013-04-22 04:03:23 PM

Mr. Breeze: That is why the first strike of a nuclear war would include a high altitude burst. Enough energy to take out any non-hardened communications over a large portion of the country.


Except for the stuff that isn't connected.

For example, a radio with the microphone, antenna, power, etc. cords disconnected probably isn't going to get enough voltage induced on it to fry anything.  If you're really worried about it, put one or two away in a metal box of some sort, with some batteries.
 
2013-04-22 04:05:11 PM
I'm sorry, my love.
 
2013-04-22 04:12:53 PM

LavenderWolf: Odd Bird: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

I'm not an expert either, but a little investigation and a basic understanding of how generators work indicates;
[haacked.com image 274x205]

Think of your simple lawn mower; magnetic field used to create electricity to fire the spark plug.

The way I usually explain EMP is like a reverse Electromagnet, as we know them.

I mean, your basic electromagnet works like this: You run current through wire, and you get a magnetic field.

An EMP is the reverse process; a(n ostensibly) brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).

Surprisingly few people understand how bad that would be.



Well, beyond any sort of current transmitted through wires, all information stored on hard drives is stored magnetically. You hit those with an EMP and you're effectively degaussing them.

/unplugging won't do a bit of good
 
2013-04-22 04:52:02 PM

BigLuca: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

The trick to keeping all your electronics safe is to submerge them in salt water when the EMP hits.  It's called a Liquid Faraday cage.


www.webanswers.com
Approves.
 
2013-04-22 04:58:31 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


(Puts hands in robe pockets deliberately) "Is he."
 
2013-04-22 05:41:38 PM

BigLuca: BigLuca: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

The trick to keeping all your electronics safe is to submerge them in salt water when the EMP hits.  It's called a Liquid Faraday cage.

In case anyone took me seriously, I"m kidding and don't do this.


Methinks someone really, really considers themselves more intelligent than anyone else around them...
 
2013-04-22 05:47:14 PM

shaken_not_stirred: BigLuca: BigLuca: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

The trick to keeping all your electronics safe is to submerge them in salt water when the EMP hits.  It's called a Liquid Faraday cage.

In case anyone took me seriously, I"m kidding and don't do this.

Methinks someone really, really considers themselves more intelligent than anyone else around them...


Also, anyone who uses 'methinks' in a sentence is probably a bloviating blowhard.  Probably.
 
2013-04-22 06:13:38 PM

shaken_not_stirred: shaken_not_stirred: BigLuca: BigLuca: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

The trick to keeping all your electronics safe is to submerge them in salt water when the EMP hits.  It's called a Liquid Faraday cage.

In case anyone took me seriously, I"m kidding and don't do this.

Methinks someone really, really considers themselves more intelligent than anyone else around them...

Also, anyone who uses 'methinks' in a sentence is probably a bloviating blowhard.  Probably.


I can tell you, unequivocally, that I am the smrtest guy on my couch right now.
 
2013-04-22 06:43:21 PM

J. Frank Parnell: LavenderWolf: Odd Bird: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

I'm not an expert either, but a little investigation and a basic understanding of how generators work indicates;
[haacked.com image 274x205]

Think of your simple lawn mower; magnetic field used to create electricity to fire the spark plug.

The way I usually explain EMP is like a reverse Electromagnet, as we know them.

I mean, your basic electromagnet works like this: You run current through wire, and you get a magnetic field.

An EMP is the reverse process; a(n ostensibly) brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).

Surprisingly few people understand how bad that would be.


Well, beyond any sort of current transmitted through wires, all information stored on hard drives is stored magnetically. You hit those with an EMP and you're effectively degaussing them.

/unplugging won't do a bit of good


as i recall, tests done back in the 60s, when electronics were way more sensitive to this kind of stuff, the high-altitude EMP did approximately feck-all to the electrical grid OR communications.

apparently some garage doors randomly opened, tho.


most consumer electronics are tested against transient discharge and EMP to several kilovolts minimum. you'd have to be close enough to the blast that EMP would be among the least of your worries..
 
2013-04-22 06:54:44 PM
An EMP is the reverse process; a(n ostensibly) brief magnetic field causes current in wires (and generally any kind of conductive material).

The amount of current induced is proportional to the magnetic field change and the length of the wire in the perpendicular direction. With solar activity, the magnetic field changes are small enough that unless your electronics are a mile long or more (such as power lines), you won't see any significant effect. If you have it plugged in though, your electronics could be the recipient of all the current generated in the power lines. Thus for solar activity caused geomagnetic activity, unplugging as a safeguard is good enough. A bigger problem is burnt transformers bringing down the power over a large area. These can't be replaced till the magnetic storm is over (or they'll just reburn) and sometimes the storms can last 2 weeks. For nuclear explosions, you needn't bother - they'll probably be fried no matter what you do.
 
2013-04-22 07:06:06 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


As long as there is a quasi-complete circuit, yep. Unplugging the PC might not be enough... unplugging the PSU from the board might be enough, or at least, placing an additional grounding rod 6' into the earth and grounding the case to it.
 
2013-04-22 07:18:11 PM

WorkingInParadise: I'm in a giant Faraday cage, laughing at your puny [pop] bzztsizzle ...

/dammit


I actually do.  Great for protecting my wifi ... sucks for friends visiting who want to receive cell calls.

/Stucco house, grounded the lath.
 
2013-04-22 07:52:26 PM

RoxtarRyan: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

As long as there is a quasi-complete circuit, yep. Unplugging the PC might not be enough... unplugging the PSU from the board might be enough, or at least, placing an additional grounding rod 6' into the earth and grounding the case to it.


Well I'm in the shiat as I'm on a second story.

What do?

Merely detach power supply from board??
 
2013-04-22 08:01:21 PM

buttery_shame_cave: most consumer electronics are tested against transient discharge and EMP


ORLY?
 
2013-04-22 08:03:44 PM
What did the Weather Channel name it?
 
2013-04-22 08:38:14 PM

sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.


I'm no expert, either, but I believe the Ethiopian Military Police will totally screw with your stuff. Especially your foodstuffs.
 
2013-04-22 09:01:44 PM

Kittypie070: RoxtarRyan: sxacho: fluffy2097: Just let me know when I need to unplug my computers to avoid the EMP please.

I'm no expert on EMPs but I was once told that an EMP could screw with your stuff even if it's unplugged. Eddys in the time-space circuitry or something.

As long as there is a quasi-complete circuit, yep. Unplugging the PC might not be enough... unplugging the PSU from the board might be enough, or at least, placing an additional grounding rod 6' into the earth and grounding the case to it.

Well I'm in the shiat as I'm on a second story.

What do?

Merely detach power supply from board??


Eh... prolly. I mean, by the time it hits, you might not know and it'll be too late. I'm pretty keen on military electrical hardening of electronic systems, and I recall that modern consumer electronics are sensitive to EMPs.... but how sensitive? Beats me. Let's put it like this: if you get hit with an EMP strong enough to induce current into your PC, grounding it is the least of your concerns, since likely the grid is toast, or at least the equipment on the lines the cable company puts up. At the very least, pull the battery from your cell phone, like you should to avoid frying it when it drops in water if you pull it out soon enough.
 
2013-04-22 09:27:45 PM
GF wants to know where she can hide her battery powered dildo. Any suggestions?
 
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