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(Fox News)   And here we go: a CUNY professor is complaining about "too much force" being used against the Tsarnaev brothers   (nation.foxnews.com) divider line 196
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2013-04-22 01:21:48 PM
I wonder what his feeling was for the other recent domestic terrorists...
 
2013-04-22 01:22:53 PM

zulius: I wonder what his feeling was for the other recent domestic terrorists...


Strong enough to have changed his gender, apparently.
 
2013-04-22 01:27:02 PM
That's not a "Y".
 
2013-04-22 01:27:07 PM
Oh, an opinion from a cunning linguist. Great.
 
2013-04-22 01:29:00 PM
So what? I'm sure if you call a dozen random college professors you could find one who says the real dangerous alien come from Jupiter's moons. This proves what, exactly?
 
2013-04-22 01:29:08 PM
Surprise the entirety of her post says something different
http://ruthobrien.org/a-day-of-terror/
 
2013-04-22 01:29:31 PM
Really?

I'm usually one to jump all over abuse of force...but in this case, they were wanted for a bombing that killed 3 innocent individuals and wounded or maimed over 100 more.  They killed a cop, they carjacked another individual...and led police on a chase.  They were clearly armed and dangerous.  Terrorism or not, the use of force was in this case was completely justified.
 
2013-04-22 01:30:57 PM
From original article: I hope we will all be witnesses at the Internal Affairs investigation about undue force.

I'm all for training people to avoid excessive force.  But we can't fault someone for extra killing someone who they had very good reason to think might try to kill them.  Develop some kinda training to try to avoid it, but if a guy runs to the store to get more bullets to fire at a corpse that tried to kill him 5 minutes ago I say give him $20 and another 10 minutes.
 
2013-04-22 01:33:57 PM

zedster: Surprise the entirety of her post says something different
http://ruthobrien.org/a-day-of-terror/


okay, re-read it. It was she says but I agree with everything but the excessive force issue.
Still after any incident like this there should be an investigation and those photos never should have been published
 
2013-04-22 01:35:29 PM
I bet we could find, say, a banker who thinks that the police should have helped them defend themselves.

That's the funny thing about Free Speech and things like the internet- you can find anyone to say anything on almost any topic.
 
2013-04-22 01:40:14 PM

zedster: Surprise the entirety of her post says something different
http://ruthobrien.org/a-day-of-terror/


Not really. FTFA: This said, the mortuary pictures of the older brother of the two are extremely disturbing, raising questions as to whether the Boston Police Department captured him with too much force.

She's saying we used too much force to "capture" (i.e. kill) the guy that already murdered a cop, and was shooting and lobbing bombs at pursuing officers.

And his brother was the one who ultimately used the force, by running him over.

/All-in-all, it's a pretty worthless article
 
2013-04-22 01:42:41 PM
Plenty of these idiots posting on Fark already
 
2013-04-22 01:44:31 PM

Tatsuma: Plenty of these idiots posting on Fark already


I passed calculus once!
 
2013-04-22 01:45:54 PM
At my home, to at least offset this, we turn off all media

Because TV is a nckname, and nicknames are for friends.
 
2013-04-22 01:46:11 PM
City University of New York Professor Ruth

I immediately went 'Please not a Jew please not a Jew

O'Brien

Score!

While terrorism is about causing fear - again an emotion - we do have to account for our conduct in these extreme times when adrenaline is running high.

At my home, to at least offset this, we turn off all media.  I couldn't believe my sons' explanation when they got home about one brother running over the other one.  So I found a place to read about this, and I recoiled after seeing the picture.  Still, we all know that terrorism, like crime, "leads if it bleeds" with the established media.  The established media fixates on the domestic-violence or crime-of-passion aspect of terrorism, and it, too, inculcates more fear in all of us.



What an idiot. 'I didn't follow the news or everything that happened, but clearly the police used too much force!'
 
2013-04-22 01:49:14 PM
Of course all Liberals think like this. Libs will side with the terrorists EVERY time.
 
2013-04-22 01:51:30 PM

vernonFL: Of course all Liberals think like this. Libs will side with the terrorists EVERY time.


9/10 simple, effective.
 
2013-04-22 01:52:14 PM
You mis-spelled "coont."
 
2013-04-22 01:52:34 PM

vernonFL: Of course all Liberals think like this. Libs will side with the terrorists EVERY time.


ct.fra.bz
 
2013-04-22 01:52:41 PM
so-called "liberal" here. i think the force used was appropriate. the guy was carrying shiatloads of weapons and IEDs.

that being said, he is an AMERICAN CITIZEN and should be tried in a civilian court and afforded all the rights due to him.
 
2013-04-22 01:53:19 PM

FlashHarry: that being said, he is an AMERICAN CITIZEN and should be tried in a civilian court and afforded all the rights due to him.


He is. Just got the newsflash from CNN/local news on my phone.
 
2013-04-22 01:55:28 PM

scottydoesntknow: FlashHarry: that being said, he is an AMERICAN CITIZEN and should be tried in a civilian court and afforded all the rights due to him.

He is. Just got the newsflash from CNN/local news on my phone.


good.

besides, if he's tried in a federal court, he'll likely get the death penalty, satisfying the blood god.
 
2013-04-22 01:57:27 PM

xanadian: You mis-spelled "coont."


i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-22 02:04:42 PM
Isn't it coming out that he ran his brother over with the stolen SUV? Like cops were subduing the first brother and the second went all bowling for cops and instead missed the spare?
 
2013-04-22 02:06:22 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Isn't it coming out that he ran his brother over with the stolen SUV? Like cops were subduing the first brother and the second went all bowling for cops and instead missed the spare?


Yep. Pretty much killed his brother because of it too
 
2013-04-22 02:10:52 PM
Well, if it were the LAPD we'd probably have had 4 more dead civilians, and 30 dead Toyota pickups.  And the boat would have been burned to the ground with white phosphorous.

So, you know, I'm going to say that the BPD did alright.

And the article is less about excessive force (one line) and about the impact of terrorism in the US on the media and the general population.
 
2013-04-22 02:13:39 PM

I_C_Weener: Well, if it were the LAPD we'd probably have had 4 more dead civilians, and 30 dead Toyota pickups.  And the boat would have been burned to the ground with white phosphorous.


Be lucky it wasn't Chicago, when we go full cop crazy we go full cop crazy

Tatsuma: Yep. Pretty much killed his brother because of it too


I think we can just go ahead and chock these two up as insane
 
2013-04-22 02:16:58 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: I think we can just go ahead and chock these two up as insane


They were not insane but evil. They knew fully well what they were doing.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-22 02:17:08 PM
If someone has explosives strapped to them and is shooting at you and coming toward you I don't think that pepper spray is going to do it.

It's cool that she's a cunny professor though.
 
2013-04-22 02:18:20 PM

Tatsuma: They were not insane but evil. They knew fully well what they were doing.


Well something was broken up in that noggin

...you know aside from the bullet hole in his mouth and all that
 
2013-04-22 02:19:31 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Isn't it coming out that he ran his brother over with the stolen SUV? Like cops were subduing the first brother and the second went all bowling for cops and instead missed the spare?


Y U make me LOL?!

This is serious stuff! Fark. Serious business.
 
2013-04-22 02:21:26 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: I_C_Weener: Well, if it were the LAPD we'd probably have had 4 more dead civilians, and 30 dead Toyota pickups.  And the boat would have been burned to the ground with white phosphorous.

Be lucky it wasn't Chicago, when we go full cop crazy we go full cop crazy

Tatsuma: Yep. Pretty much killed his brother because of it too

I think we can just go ahead and chock these two up as insane


True.  They would have shot a lot of dogs, and in knock and enter raids killed a few toddlers.
 
2013-04-22 02:52:27 PM
Go fark yourself, you cuny....
 
2013-04-22 02:52:54 PM
I'm guessing he is AW'ing or just plain stupid. Nothing I have read suggests that any unnecessary force was used at any time.

But really, is there any amount of force that would be unnecessary? They were shooting and throwing bombs at cops. At that point, the tasers and batons get put away and the serious toys come out.
 
2013-04-22 02:53:28 PM
He's right.  Too much force was used against innocent civilians in a blatant disregard for constitutionally protected rights.

Just another in a long list of war crimes by Obama
 
2013-04-22 02:54:13 PM
From what I've read, the older brother was killed by the younger one, who ran him over with the stolen SUV while escaping. So, add that to his list of crimes, and try not to laugh to hard at the beautiful FARKING irony.
 
2013-04-22 02:54:23 PM

vernonFL: Of course all Liberals think like this. Libs will side with the terrorists EVERY time.


7/10 should've went with "Libtards"
 righties never use "liberal"
 
2013-04-22 02:54:55 PM
shiat, I'm surprised they didn't use MORE force.  Especially on a cop killer.
 
2013-04-22 02:55:09 PM
They shut down an entire city and called out the farking national guard for a teenager with a pistol and some tubesocks full of gunpowder. Yes force was excessive. Everyone involved should be embarrassed.
 
2013-04-22 02:55:12 PM
And his fark handle is _____________.

/fill in the blank
//I can think of 2 off the top of my head
 
2013-04-22 02:55:22 PM

Jument: I'm guessing he is AW'ing or just plain stupid. Nothing I have read suggests that any unnecessary force was used at any time.

But really, is there any amount of force that would be unnecessary? They were shooting and throwing bombs at cops. At that point, the tasers and batons get put away and the serious toys come out.


For some people, any force used by the police is too much force.
 
2013-04-22 02:56:45 PM

Tatsuma: City University of New York Professor Ruth

I immediately went 'Please not a Jew please not a Jew

O'Brien

Score!

While terrorism is about causing fear - again an emotion - we do have to account for our conduct in these extreme times when adrenaline is running high.

At my home, to at least offset this, we turn off all media.  I couldn't believe my sons' explanation when they got home about one brother running over the other one.  So I found a place to read about this, and I recoiled after seeing the picture.  Still, we all know that terrorism, like crime, "leads if it bleeds" with the established media.  The established media fixates on the domestic-violence or crime-of-passion aspect of terrorism, and it, too, inculcates more fear in all of us.


What an idiot. 'I didn't follow the news or everything that happened, but clearly the police used too much force!'


prolly her married name. She sounds real Jew-y

/are you serious?
 
2013-04-22 02:56:52 PM
FOX News is awesome at trolling at idiots.
 
2013-04-22 02:56:58 PM
Looked like the PD did all right to me.  I did think it was excessive to shut down the whole city of Boston though when they had the suspect cornered in a suburb though.
 
2013-04-22 02:56:59 PM
Funny thing about Force.
You leave it lying around and it gets used.
You fund it, feed it and turn it loose, you know not what will happen. Usually the worst of all possibilities.

Note to self, when target is a pinhead, do not pick up the sledgehammer
 
2013-04-22 02:58:40 PM

Ned Stark: They shut down an entire city and called out the farking national guard for a teenager with a pistol and some tubesocks full of gunpowder. Yes force was excessive. Everyone involved should be embarrassed.


The stupidest post? This is it.
 
2013-04-22 02:59:25 PM

vernonFL: Of course all Liberals think like this. Libs will side with the terrorists EVERY time.


Well, at least the ones you build of straw will. I'm one of those Libby-Libs and I think they used appropriate force.

But have fun playing with your straw libs!
 
2013-04-22 03:00:08 PM
Did CUNY Professor Commit Treason?  Fox News Is Just Asking Questions.
 
2013-04-22 03:00:15 PM

I_C_Weener: Well, if it were the LAPD we'd probably have had 4 more dead civilians, and 30 dead Toyota pickups.  And the boat would have been burned to the ground with white phosphorous.

So, you know, I'm going to say that the BPD did alright.

And the article is less about excessive force (one line) and about the impact of terrorism in the US on the media and the general population.


This.
 
2013-04-22 03:00:21 PM

skullkrusher: prolly her married name


Aw crap. You might be right.

skullkrusher: /are you serious?


Of course I am, do we really need another Jewish-American professor at a liberal University saying something really farking stupid?

I say 'Oy, fark no'
 
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