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(NYPost)   If the Boston bomber recovers from his wounds, could he become a Columbia professor one day?   (nypost.com) divider line 165
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2013-04-22 01:27:44 PM  
Do the editors at NYP give each other prostate massages to pass the time?  It's more likely than you think!
 
2013-04-22 01:29:05 PM  
Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo. Maybe we should just kill all prisoners and 'let Gawd sort them out'.
 
2013-04-22 01:31:12 PM  
This is America. A land of second chances. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change.
 
2013-04-22 01:32:10 PM  
One more thing about this idiot. It's all about him.

There's a terrorist in Boston -ignore that -pay attention to what happened to him 30 years ago because HE is more important than any current event.
 
2013-04-22 01:36:01 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: One more thing about this idiot. It's all about him.


That was my immediate takeaway.
 
2013-04-22 01:40:03 PM  
Could this crap get any more ludicrous?
 
2013-04-22 01:43:22 PM  
No, that's moronic to even contemplate.

Shut the fark up, NYP
 
2013-04-22 01:45:52 PM  
Could a hack journalist ever become an actual benefit to society one day?
 
2013-04-22 01:52:21 PM  
If the New York Post were to hire actual journalists, could it become a source of information one day?
 
2013-04-22 01:53:05 PM  
I can always tell when one of these pieces hits close to the mark by the amount of BAAAAAWWWWWW.
 
2013-04-22 01:54:16 PM  
i don't know. could the new york post finger the wrong bombers and plaster their pics all across the front page?
 
2013-04-22 01:54:22 PM  
I just saw on CNN that he's been charged with using WMD which carries a possible death sentence. I doubt he'll be getting any professor gig.
 
2013-04-22 01:54:22 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: If the New York Post were to hire actual journalists, could it become a source of information one day?


I think that's less likely than the bomber becoming a Columbia professor.
 
2013-04-22 01:55:12 PM  
Maybe instead he can become another hero for the right-wing like McVeigh and Koresh.
 
2013-04-22 01:56:34 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Could a hack journalist ever become an actual benefit to society one day?


2.bp.blogspot.com
/couldn't resist
 
2013-04-22 01:58:05 PM  
Are they talking about the one in custody now or that Saudi guy who killed 12 people?
 
2013-04-22 02:01:35 PM  
Think bigger, NYP.

President.

Us libs may have to juggle up and change an Amendment on that natural born thing.

But hey.

It's what we do.
 
ecl
2013-04-22 02:01:46 PM  

Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.


I'm surprised you can type with a bridge crushing you.
 
2013-04-22 02:02:24 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Lando Lincoln: Could a hack journalist ever become an actual benefit to society one day?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x298]
/couldn't resist


Try again.
 
2013-04-22 02:02:36 PM  
No, and shut up.
 
2013-04-22 02:03:10 PM  
Not seeing a lot to get outraged with.  The prof in question is a douchebag and should have spent decades in jail.  And according to the article, she spent 19 years.  If you're upset with the sentence then you should be yelling at the criminal justice system.

I'd be more sympathetic if she had a history of bragging about or justifying her crimes, but I see no claims of that.

In short:  The douche was a scumbag who served her time, isn't accused of any additional crimes, and there's no claims of her continuing to advocate violence.
 
2013-04-22 02:03:59 PM  

Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.


... so vote libertarian

/HDD

Because People in power are Stupid: Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo.


Sums it up nicely.
 
2013-04-22 02:06:49 PM  

Uzzah: DarwiOdrade: Lando Lincoln: Could a hack journalist ever become an actual benefit to society one day?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x298]
/couldn't resist

Try again.


Without her McCain might be president... While unlikely, she contributed to avoiding disaster and I'll take it.
 
2013-04-22 02:07:03 PM  
Well, that took longer than I thought it would.
 
2013-04-22 02:08:42 PM  

winterbraid: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.

... so vote libertarian

/HDD

Because People in power are Stupid: Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo.

Sums it up nicely.


Can someone really imagine this Boston bomber getting said chance in 20 years though?
 
2013-04-22 02:09:56 PM  
It's funny how "conservatives" want us to be a "Christian" country but they forget about that whole forgiveness thing.  But I guess Christ had bigger priorities, like gay marriage.
 
2013-04-22 02:09:59 PM  
yes.


unless we vote republican.
 
2013-04-22 02:12:14 PM  
Yes. Almost certainly.
 
2013-04-22 02:13:31 PM  
No, and the coont in tfa should have spent her natural life on a cage. Same goes for that shiatstain Ayers.
 
2013-04-22 02:14:17 PM  
If a rightwing flunkie gets caught in the Watergate burglary and goes to jail, can he then get a job as a radio wingnut and call for "Headshots, headshots, no chest shots" at federal agents?
 
2013-04-22 02:15:00 PM  

JesusJuice: No, and the coont in tfa should have spent her natural life on a cage. Same goes for that shiatstain Ayers.


Who knew The Good Lord has such a foul mouth?
 
2013-04-22 02:15:20 PM  

Arkanaut: It's funny how "conservatives" want us to be a "Christian" country but they forget about that whole forgiveness thing.  But I guess Christ had bigger priorities, like gay marriage.


You can only be forgiven if you're a Republican born again Christian.  Everything else is unforgivable and he people should be hounded for life.
 
2013-04-22 02:17:06 PM  
I dunno, if he pays his debts to society and ever gets out of prison and then is learned enough in a specific field to where an Ivy League schools thinks he's a good enough teacher of said field to pay him, sure, why the hell not?

/take your rhetorical questions and shove em up your bony ass, Murdoch
 
2013-04-22 02:17:10 PM  

dehehn: winterbraid: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.

... so vote libertarian

/HDD

Because People in power are Stupid: Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo.

Sums it up nicely.

Can someone really imagine this Boston bomber getting said chance in 20 years though?


20 years is a long time, even if you spend it all in prison...
 
2013-04-22 02:17:17 PM  
eat a dick,  JOHN M. MURTAGH.
 
2013-04-22 02:17:38 PM  
Of course not. Harvard will offer him a gig first.
 
2013-04-22 02:18:47 PM  
He doesn't seem like enough of an asshole to be a professor but you never know. Prison changes people.
 
2013-04-22 02:18:48 PM  
This has been going on since before the Boston bombings, and the author is not the only victim to speak out.

I cannot believe that folks would side with someone who deprived innocent people of life.
 
2013-04-22 02:21:28 PM  
TTIWWOPOS.

(this thread is worthless without pics of Shakira)
 
2013-04-22 02:21:53 PM  

minoridiot: This has been going on since before the Boston bombings, and the author is not the only victim to speak out.

I cannot believe that folks would side with someone who deprived innocent people of life.


they are the major idiots, the useful ones
 
2013-04-22 02:21:57 PM  
she teaches about the problems facing newly released prisoners and their families.

That monster. I can't imagine how she could possibly have the nerve to think that she is qualified to teach on that subject.
 
2013-04-22 02:23:09 PM  

thurstonxhowell: she teaches about the problems facing newly released prisoners and their families.

That monster. I can't imagine how she could possibly have the nerve to think that she is qualified to teach on that subject.


How dare she secure employment after being released from prison!!!

/where are my pearls
 
2013-04-22 02:24:07 PM  

minoridiot: This has been going on since before the Boston bombings, and the author is not the only victim to speak out.

I cannot believe that folks would side with someone who deprived innocent people of life.


I'm not sure what, exactly, your position is.

Anyone who's convicted in relation to a death should be banned from working for life?
 
2013-04-22 02:24:53 PM  

DarwiOdrade: 2.bp.blogspot.com
/couldn't resist


i213.photobucket.com

Neither could I.
 
2013-04-22 02:30:55 PM  

ecl: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.

I'm surprised you can type with a bridge crushing you.


Was that the infamous "Bridge to No Where?"
 
2013-04-22 02:34:54 PM  
If the Post had journalistic integrity, would we consider it a newspaper?
 
2013-04-22 02:36:02 PM  
If my aunt had balls, would she be my uncle?
 
2013-04-22 02:36:08 PM  

winterbraid: thurstonxhowell: she teaches about the problems facing newly released prisoners and their families.

That monster. I can't imagine how she could possibly have the nerve to think that she is qualified to teach on that subject.

How dare she secure employment after being released from prison!!!

/where are my pearls


Convicted felons are only allowed to host radio shows, not work in academia.  Thought everyone knew that.



wysinger.homestead.comupload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-22 02:38:00 PM  

Arkanaut: But I guess Christ had bigger priorities, like gay marriage.


You betcha!  All of his sayings about gayness are right there in the book of "I'm hanging around with 12 guys and not getting married even though I'm a jewish guy in my 30's in an age of arranged marriages..."
 
2013-04-22 02:39:21 PM  
He's gettin too old for this shiat
 
2013-04-22 02:40:58 PM  

FlashHarry: i don't know. could the new york post finger the wrong bombers and plaster their pics all across the front page?

be forced to smell their own fingers for the rest of eternity?
 
2013-04-22 02:44:04 PM  
Did she server her time for the crime she was convicted of?

Then why should I care what she does for employment after release?

If Tsarnaev beats the death penalty or isn't sentenced to life without parole (seems unlikely, but it could happen, I guess), I will also not care what he does for employment upon release.

That's the way our justice system works. I see no reason to get outraged about that. ...And has been pointed out, is this journalist also upset about G Gordon Liddy's and Oliver North's current employment status, as well?
 
2013-04-22 02:44:56 PM  

thurstonxhowell: she teaches about the problems facing newly released prisoners and their families.

That monster. I can't imagine how she could possibly have the nerve to think that she is qualified to teach on that subject.


I think the outrage is that she IS free and about after being an accomplice to murder and terrorist activities.
 
2013-04-22 02:47:35 PM  
 
2013-04-22 02:53:18 PM  
Did she kill anyone?
 
2013-04-22 02:55:19 PM  

cheyanne9: [therealrevo.com image 480x600]
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/381893/

[i2.photobucket.com image 238x297]


"Much of the controversy about Ayers during the decade since 2000 stems from an interview he gave to The New York Times on the occasion of the memoir's publication.[31] The reporter quoted him as saying "I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough", and, when asked if he would "do it all again," as saying "I don't want to discount the possibility."[29] Ayers protested the interviewer's characterizations in a [32] In the ensuing years, Ayers has repeatedly avowed that when he said he had "no regrets" and that "we didn't do enough" he was speaking only in reference to his efforts to stop the United States from waging the [33] Ayers has maintained that the two statements were not intended to imply a wish they had set more bombs.[33][34] "

Comments are never, ever distorted or taken out of context, are they?
 
2013-04-22 02:55:49 PM  

cheyanne9: [therealrevo.com image 480x600]
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/381893/

[i2.photobucket.com image 238x297]


Who, exactly, did Ayers blow up?
 
2013-04-22 02:55:52 PM  
www.chicagomag.com
Or he could ghost write presidential autobiographies?
 
2013-04-22 02:58:44 PM  

Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.


careful, you're lying again. when you lie, it undermines your position.

i38.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-22 03:02:08 PM  

Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.


btw, there are far more rightwing terrorists than leftwing terrorists. but there are still leftwing terrorists.
 
2013-04-22 03:04:54 PM  

FlashHarry: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

btw, there are far more rightwing terrorists than leftwing terrorists. but there are still leftwing terrorists.


Number of people killed by leftwing terrorists:
 
2013-04-22 03:07:04 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: FlashHarry: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

btw, there are far more rightwing terrorists than leftwing terrorists. but there are still leftwing terrorists.

Number of people killed by leftwing terrorists:


exactly.
 
2013-04-22 03:16:28 PM  

StrikitRich: [www.chicagomag.com image 600x375]
Or he could ghost write presidential autobiographies?


You mean be the real Man Behind the Curtains, right? I mean you know he's pulling Obama's strings and is really the force behind us becoming a Socialist State overnight, right? Anyone who doesn't is just blind and naive. Plus, you know how Obama's people can't possibly perform the job of the President. You need a white guy. Plain and simple. Obama's people can only do 3/5ths of what a White President would be able to do. It's right there in the Constitution. Also, the shadow government has secretly signed our surrender to Al Qaeda, so all they need is an excuse. Like a bombing done by White people who are Muslims. Operation Flagstaff will commence soon. I think you should go to your local Fox News station and use the code word. They will keep you out of the FEMA camps and lead you to the resistance fighters, who I think are called the Badgers or Foxes, or some other tough woodland predator, I forget which one.

FREEDOM, BROTHER!
 
2013-04-22 03:33:58 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: FlashHarry: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

btw, there are far more rightwing terrorists than leftwing terrorists. but there are still leftwing terrorists.

Number of people killed by leftwing terrorists:


since when?
 
2013-04-22 03:40:07 PM  
Left Wing Terrorists blow up property.
Right Wing Terrorists blow up people.

Should they be grouped together?  The media sure seems to think so...
 
2013-04-22 03:56:42 PM  
If one has doubt about Mr. Ayers and his guilt or innocence I would offer the case of "The People verses Simpson" 1994

Many saw Mr. Simpson set free. How many were stunned by that decision?
 
2013-04-22 04:05:50 PM  

cheyanne9: If one has doubt about Mr. Ayers and his guilt or innocence I would offer the case of "The People verses Simpson" 1994

Many saw Mr. Simpson set free. How many were stunned by that decision?


Purple monkey dishwasher?
 
2013-04-22 04:07:47 PM  

Fart_Machine: cheyanne9: If one has doubt about Mr. Ayers and his guilt or innocence I would offer the case of "The People verses Simpson" 1994

Many saw Mr. Simpson set free. How many were stunned by that decision?

Purple monkey dishwasher?


get back on the porch
 
2013-04-22 04:09:29 PM  
The professor / douche did her time, so getting a job is not a big deal.  I do question if she would have the same gig had she been in John Birch society or whatever the ultra conservative group was then.
 
2013-04-22 04:11:24 PM  

Munchausen's Proxy: The professor / douche did her time, so getting a job is not a big deal.  I do question if she would have the same gig had she been in John Birch society or whatever the ultra conservative group was then.


That's still pretty much the ultraconservative group. Except they like to call themselves libertarians.
 
2013-04-22 04:14:04 PM  

X-boxershorts: Munchausen's Proxy: The professor / douche did her time, so getting a job is not a big deal.  I do question if she would have the same gig had she been in John Birch society or whatever the ultra conservative group was then.

That's still pretty much the ultraconservative group. Except they like to call themselves libertarians.


Sorry, I did not keep up.  Do you think a "Birchian" (is that what they were called?) would have been hired as a professor?
 
2013-04-22 04:16:49 PM  
The post still trying to deflect attention from their xenophobic profiling and baseless accusations of guilt last thursday?

fark them.
 
2013-04-22 04:24:59 PM  

socodog: I can always tell when one of these pieces hits close to the mark by the amount of BAAAAAWWWWWW.


If there was a point to make there, although I doubt there actually was, the author stepped all over his own dick in his attempt to make it.

A shred of intellectual honesty would have required at least an off-hand mention that she spent 2 decades in prison and had paid for her crimes.
 
2013-04-22 04:29:36 PM  

JesusJuice: No, and the coont in tfa should have spent her natural life on a cage. Same goes for that shiatstain Ayers.


Give it a rest and spare us the faux outrage. You didn't have any idea who Bill Ayers was before January 20, 2009.
 
2013-04-22 04:48:17 PM  

gilgigamesh: JesusJuice: No, and the coont in tfa should have spent her natural life on a cage. Same goes for that shiatstain Ayers.

Give it a rest and spare us the faux outrage.

You didn't have any idea who Bill Ayers was before January 20, 2009.

You like to hire prostitutes to choke you while you burn your genitals with a hot iron.

See?  I can make up shiat about you, too.
 
2013-04-22 04:48:48 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: cheyanne9: [therealrevo.com image 480x600]
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/381893/

[i2.photobucket.com image 238x297]

Who, exactly, did Ayers blow up?


cheyanne9s mom
 
2013-04-22 05:09:34 PM  

Kibbler: If a rightwing flunkie gets caught in the Watergate burglary and goes to jail, can he then get a job as a radio wingnut and call for "Headshots, headshots, no chest shots" at federal agents?


Republicans love to call for political assassinations until someone gets shot in the head. And then they pretend that they never said anything of the sort.
 
2013-04-22 05:16:29 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo. Maybe we should just kill all prisoners and 'let Gawd sort them out'.


That's no way to overcrowd our private prisons!
 
2013-04-22 05:16:45 PM  

erveek: Republicans love to call for political assassinations until someone gets shot in the head. And then they pretend that they never said anything of the sort.


Kind of like how Democrats love to rage and rant about the Federal Government having too much power and allowed to much in terms of ruining people's private lives, until they get in power and just forget about those complaints?
 
2013-04-22 05:31:27 PM  

dehehn: winterbraid: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.

... so vote libertarian

/HDD

Because People in power are Stupid: Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo.

Sums it up nicely.

Can someone really imagine this Boston bomber getting said chance in 20 years though?


Maybe. Twenty years is a long time. I'd bet you 1000 to 1 that nobody thought Boudin would be teaching at Columbia 20 years ago, and everyone you asked would have been just as outraged, calling for her to be flayed alive on the front lawn of the White House, etc. as they are now.
 
2013-04-22 05:41:17 PM  
If he is ever released from prison, sure. However, I am guessing that life without the possibility of parole will severely limit his future career options.
 
2013-04-22 05:47:20 PM  

Tatsuma: erveek: Republicans love to call for political assassinations until someone gets shot in the head. And then they pretend that they never said anything of the sort.

Kind of like how Democrats love to rage and rant about the Federal Government having too much power and allowed to much in terms of ruining people's private lives, until they get in power and just forget about those complaints?


Kind of like how Republicans love to call anyone who questions the president terrorist sympathizers until the president is not one of their own, then they start calling the president a terrorist sympathizer.
 
2013-04-22 05:48:05 PM  
Its possible. I was imprisoned for robbing a bank and conducting quasi terror operations with the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA).  Those were the days!    My sentence was commuted by Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton granted me a pardon.  I don't teach at a college, but I've had offers.

Patty

ephemerist.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-22 05:50:04 PM  

erveek: Kind of like how Republicans love to call anyone who questions the president terrorist sympathizers until the president is not one of their own, then they start calling the president a terrorist sympathizer.


Kind of like mexicans drive like THIS and whitey drives like THAT?
 
2013-04-22 05:55:01 PM  
Well yeah, anything can happen.  Not bloody likely, though.

And if he somehow didn't get the death penalty or die in his cell, was released, and got a prestigious job, how would that be bad?  Isn't rehabilitation the entire point of our judicial system?
 
2013-04-22 05:55:28 PM  

SamWaters: Its possible. I was imprisoned for robbing a bank and conducting quasi terror operations with the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA).  Those were the days!    My sentence was commuted by Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton granted me a pardon.  I don't teach at a college, but I've had offers.

Patty

[ephemerist.files.wordpress.com image 350x452]


Wait.

I thought Patty Hearst died after being shot with a Thompson gun.
 
2013-04-22 06:13:27 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Anyone who's convicted in relation to a death should be banned from working for life?


I think the position is that they probably shouldn't be offered prestigious jobs at Ivy League universities.  Certainly you can see the distinction between that position and the straw man that you've offered?

keylock71: That's the way our justice system works. I see no reason to get outraged about that. ...And has been pointed out, is this journalist also upset about G Gordon Liddy's and Oliver North's current employment status, as well?


No, it's the way our justice system use to work.  What this illustrates is not that there's a left/right bias for terrorists, but rather just how much our criminal justice system has changed over the last half a century.  There was a time when we believed, correctly, that even the worst criminals could be reformed and become useful members of society.  Sadly, there is no chance that the accused Boston bomber will get the same treatment.  It's possible he won't even get his constitutionally guaranteed due process rights.  If he does get that, he will get at best life in prison without parole, and at worst the death penalty.  But he is no more radical, no more beyond reform, than Kathy Boudin was.

Sadly over the last 50 years our criminal justice system has evolved to minimize the risk of recidivism, rather than to maximize the chance of reform.  This is largely because politicians get voted out of office when someone is released early and then commits another crime, but no one gets rewarded when someone is released early and they go on to be productive members of society.  One makes the news (and the political ads) and one does not.  Think Michael Dukakis and the prison furloughs (if you're too young to remember, just google it).  No one ever won an election in this country on a platform that said we're too tough on crime.

So no, this is not the "way our justice system works."
 
2013-04-22 06:16:41 PM  

Tatsuma: erveek: Republicans love to call for political assassinations until someone gets shot in the head. And then they pretend that they never said anything of the sort.

Kind of like how Democrats love to rage and rant about the Federal Government having too much power and allowed to much in terms of ruining people's private lives, until they get in power and just forget about those complaints?


wat
 
2013-04-22 06:21:03 PM  

Talondel: Sadly over the last 50 years our criminal justice system has evolved to minimize the risk of recidivism, rather than to maximize the chance of reform.  This is largely because politicians get voted out of office when someone is released early and then commits another crime, but no one gets rewarded when someone is released early and they go on to be productive members of society.  One makes the news (and the political ads) and one does not.  Think Michael Dukakis and the prison furloughs (if you're too young to remember, just google it).  No one ever won an election in this country on a platform that said we're too tough on crime.


This has nothing to do with terrorism, but you might find this an interesting read:

The Drug Laws That Changed How We Punish
 
2013-04-22 06:30:17 PM  
Silly Jesus (farkied: Jesus must indeed seem silly to this guy): But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

i42.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-22 06:34:15 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Tatsuma: erveek: Republicans love to call for political assassinations until someone gets shot in the head. And then they pretend that they never said anything of the sort.

Kind of like how Democrats love to rage and rant about the Federal Government having too much power and allowed to much in terms of ruining people's private lives, until they get in power and just forget about those complaints?

wat


Assuming it's the same person still using the account, Tatsuma has the same relationship with the truth as did Joesph Goebbels, for the same purposes.  The tenor is different now, so it may be a new user.
 
2013-04-22 06:35:50 PM  

Talondel: I think the position is that they probably shouldn't be offered prestigious jobs at Ivy League universities. Certainly you can see the distinction between that position and the straw man that you've offered?


So you think the government should prohibit a private university from hiring ex-cons from all or just certain positions?  Can I have a list of crimes that would be on this list?

Now, a number of employers do this voluntarily.  But is that the proper thing to do?  Continue to punish someone who's paid their debt to society?
"Sorry, you were a felon so that means you can never work at a higher position then janitor EVER in your life again."
 
2013-04-22 06:42:43 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Could this crap get any more ludicrous?


Yes, a former terrorist could get a job at a university they planned to bomb. Oh wait...

I know this hurts. Stupid is supposed to hurt. The reflexive need to dismiss or defend anything a left-winger does is just stupid.

Blue_Blazer: Maybe instead he can become another hero for the right-wing like McVeigh and Koresh.


You know who the left-wing loves? Pol Pot. Of course!

Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.


It'd be neat if they could not act so reflexively and admit it's a farked up situation and she shouldn't have gotten the job.

But no... "Sarah Palin!!!" or something...
 
2013-04-22 06:42:55 PM  
keylock71:

That's the way our justice system works. I see no reason to get outraged about that. ...And has been pointed out, is this journalist also upset about G Gordon Liddy's and Oliver North's current employment status, as well?

That was my first thought... Um... The subversive bastard Oliver "Fawn, shred this for me" North was hired by your sister Fox News as a "respected" commentator and given a regular soapbox, NY Post.

G.Gordon Liddy has been so far to the AM radio fringe for so long that I didn't think of him immediately, but yeah.

/ has an especial hatred for Oliver Norths. Working in DC contracting you can always spot one at any conference table that has over a certain number of chairs.
 
2013-04-22 06:53:35 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: So you think the government should prohibit a private university from hiring ex-cons from all or just certain positions? Can I have a list of crimes that would be on this list?

Now, a number of employers do this voluntarily. But is that the proper thing to do? Continue to punish someone who's paid their debt to society?
"Sorry, you were a felon so that means you can never work at a higher position then janitor EVER in your life again."


There is a rational middle ground between "NO felon of any kind can ever get a good job" and "Ivy League College employs a former terrorist".

And let's be honest, Between Ayers, Boudin, Ward Churchill, Kathleen Cleaver, etc. Academia does seem to have a pronounced tendancy to embrace known radicals, even those with a history of violence or advocating of violence. I think we can all agree that once time is served, a felon is entitled to earn a livelihood, but I don;t know that we all agree that a former terrorist shoudl be placed in a position to educate our children.

The author may be a douche, but no matter how douchey and attention whoring he may be, I think his point is still valid.
 
2013-04-22 06:58:27 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Talondel: I think the position is that they probably shouldn't be offered prestigious jobs at Ivy League universities. Certainly you can see the distinction between that position and the straw man that you've offered?

So you think the government should prohibit a private university from hiring ex-cons from all or just certain positions?  Can I have a list of crimes that would be on this list?

Now, a number of employers do this voluntarily.  But is that the proper thing to do?  Continue to punish someone who's paid their debt to society?
"Sorry, you were a felon so that means you can never work at a higher position then janitor EVER in your life again."


...hey, it's working for sex offenders...

/And by "working" I mean "making them drop off the radar completely because they're homeless because no one wants to rent to sex offenders and families with children at the same time".
//Which means no one knows where exactly these sex offenders are.
///Which, of course, is exactly what the intent of the sex offender registry was: to lose track of these guys so they can strike again.
 
2013-04-22 07:01:31 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: There is a rational middle ground between "NO felon of any kind can ever get a good job" and "Ivy League College employs a former terrorist".

And let's be honest, Between Ayers, Boudin, Ward Churchill, Kathleen Cleaver, etc. Academia does seem to have a pronounced tendancy to embrace known radicals, even those with a history of violence or advocating of violence. I think we can all agree that once time is served, a felon is entitled to earn a livelihood, but I don;t know that we all agree that a former terrorist shoudl be placed in a position to educate our children.

The author may be a douche, but no matter how douchey and attention whoring he may be, I think his point is still valid.


How many children, exactly, do you think are going to an Ivy League college?
 
2013-04-22 07:02:50 PM  

dehehn: winterbraid: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies?  My whole world has just collapsed.

... so vote libertarian

/HDD

Because People in power are Stupid: Someone spends 19 years in prison, gets paroled and then gets a decent job. Boo farking Hoo.

Sums it up nicely.

Can someone really imagine this Boston bomber getting said chance in 20 years though?


Okay mister... Tsarnaev. Let's have a look at your resume. Team player, detail oriented, has worked under pressure. Now, it says here that you've had hands-on experience with explosive products in the sports industry; can you expound?
 
2013-04-22 07:09:50 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: How many children, exactly, do you think are going to an Ivy League college?


No idea. Or why that is relevant. What part of what i said do you disagree with?
 
2013-04-22 07:13:52 PM  

Parthenogenetic: Talondel: Sadly over the last 50 years our criminal justice system has evolved to minimize the risk of recidivism, rather than to maximize the chance of reform.  This is largely because politicians get voted out of office when someone is released early and then commits another crime, but no one gets rewarded when someone is released early and they go on to be productive members of society.  One makes the news (and the political ads) and one does not.  Think Michael Dukakis and the prison furloughs (if you're too young to remember, just google it).  No one ever won an election in this country on a platform that said we're too tough on crime.

This has nothing to do with terrorism, but you might find this an interesting read:

The Drug Laws That Changed How We Punish


I was not familiar with that essay, but I'm quite familiar with the sentiment that it expresses. 

The problem with the shift in drug law, and really with all criminal law based on a 'deterrence' mindset, is math.

When the rationale behind the length of a criminal sentence is not 'how long do we need to rehabilitate you' but rather 'how much punishment will it take to deter you from committing a crime' the number is simply much higher.  This is because with deterrence you have to take into account how much prison time will convince a person not to commit a crime, even when it's not likely they will be caught (People don't generally commit crimes, even minor ones, if they think they will be caught.  As evidence, notice all the break lights that come on every time you pass a cop on the freeway).  So the punishment must be so severe as to dissuade even a person who is relatively certain they won't get caught from committing the crime.

This results in very long prison terms for those few people who do get caught.  Because the real reason for the punishment is not to rehabilitate them, or even to do justice for the victim.  Rather, it is about finding the punishment for that person that optimizes social utility by deterring others from committing a similar crime.  The person who is caught is simple an example to be made to others.

The long sentence is needed because the punishment must be 'multiplied' by several factors to make up for the fact that the majority of the people who commit the crime will not be caught.  This must be done, or else the punishment will not have the desired effect as a deterrent.
 
2013-04-22 07:28:12 PM  

Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists


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2013-04-22 07:33:00 PM  

Mrbogey: The reflexive need to dismiss or defend anything a left-winger does is just stupid.


Mrbogey: It'd be neat if they could not act so reflexively


i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-22 07:34:02 PM  
Obama befriending Ayers would be like Bush befriending the Marathon bomber, except in the eyes of the media and the brainwashed Total Fark left.
 
2013-04-22 07:34:37 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: So you think the government should prohibit a private university from hiring ex-cons from all or just certain positions? Can I have a list of crimes that would be on this list?

Now, a number of employers do this voluntarily. But is that the proper thing to do? Continue to punish someone who's paid their debt to society?
"Sorry, you were a felon so that means you can never work at a higher position then janitor EVER in your life again."


Are you sitting on some surplus bales of straw?  Because your response to everything seems to involve at least one straw man.  I never stated that the government should prohibit the private hiring of an ex convict.  Neither did the article author, or so far as I can tell from a cursory perusal, did anyone in this thread.  So why did you raise and then attack an argument that no one is making? (hint: it's called a straw man fallacy for a reason).
 
2013-04-22 07:46:48 PM  
Professor, no. Close friend and confidante to a Liberal President, without question.
 
2013-04-22 07:48:39 PM  
I sure the farklibs who seem to think this is no big deal wouldnt think differently if, say, an abortion clinic bomber was offered a job post release with Bob Jones university or something.

A convicted terrorist shouldn't be precluded from getting a job, but an prestigious university offering a terrorist a lecturing gig is another thing IMO.
 
2013-04-22 07:48:52 PM  

Talondel: Are you sitting on some surplus bales of straw? Because your response to everything seems to involve at least one straw man. I never stated that the government should prohibit the private hiring of an ex convict. Neither did the article author, or so far as I can tell from a cursory perusal, did anyone in this thread. So why did you raise and then attack an argument that no one is making? (hint: it's called a straw man fallacy for a reason).


You're a birther; why are you suddenly against strawmen?

I'm just trying to determine why you think this particular crime and private employer are mutually exclusive.
 
2013-04-22 07:55:32 PM  

SamWaters: Its possible. I was imprisoned for robbing a bank and conducting quasi terror operations with the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA).  Those were the days!    My sentence was commuted by Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton granted me a pardon.  I don't teach at a college, but I've had offers.

Patty

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But your the granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst. That's totally different.
 
2013-04-22 07:56:26 PM  
you're

/damn it
 
2013-04-22 08:24:29 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Mrbogey: The reflexive need to dismiss or defend anything a left-winger does is just stupid.

Mrbogey: It'd be neat if they could not act so reflexively

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Thank heavens you posted. I was wondering what the position espoused by morons would be on this issue.
 
2013-04-22 08:34:16 PM  
if intrenet had xisted 40 yrs ago and someone posted Ayers terrorist will be a professor in 27 years, he would be troll. We are so far from dealing with these 'rat types appropriately. But I think the good people will wake up soon and it's about to get extremely ugly for you 'rat types.
 
2013-04-22 08:41:35 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: if intrenet had xisted 40 yrs ago and someone posted Ayers terrorist will be a professor in 27 years, he would be troll. We are so far from dealing with these 'rat types appropriately. But I think the good people will wake up soon and it's about to get extremely ugly for you 'rat types.


0/0

Wat?
 
2013-04-22 08:41:50 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Could a hack journalist ever become an actual benefit to society one day?


Maybe as an organ donor?
 
2013-04-22 08:48:13 PM  

Talondel: I think the position is that they probably shouldn't be offered prestigious jobs at Ivy League universities.  Certainly you can see the distinction between that position and the straw man that you've offered?


How about offering admitted traitors the presidency of a small, Southern university?
 
2013-04-22 08:49:05 PM  
The NYP clearly uses yahoo comments as "sources." They were using that joke since Thursday.
 
2013-04-22 09:20:01 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: How about offering admitted traitors the presidency of a small, Southern university?


Or give them television shows, radio shows, buy tons of their books, get them to run for office...
 
2013-04-22 09:22:24 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I sure the farklibs who seem to think this is no big deal wouldnt think differently if, say, an abortion clinic bomber was offered a job post release with Bob Jones university or something.

A convicted terrorist shouldn't be precluded from getting a job, but an prestigious university offering a terrorist a lecturing gig is another thing IMO.


No it isn't. There is nothing, NOTHING that The Liberals (tm) aren't capable of.
 
2013-04-22 09:34:26 PM  
You farkers are so tied up with your anti-republican, anti-NY Post bias that you are missing the point.  This is not an article written by a journalist, it is an op ed written by a victim of Ms. Boudin's terrorism.  Ms. Boudin was a member of a left wing terror group called the Weather Undergound.  They were a teror group in the 1960's - 1980's who were anti war and anti government.  I was there when they robbed the Provident Savings Bank at the Nanuet Mall in Nanuet New York.  They killed a cop.  One person got away and is now a fugitive in Cuba.  It traumatised my community.  I was in junior high, but I remember what it did to our town.  The point of this op ed is that Ms. Boudin and her group were plotting to blow up Columbia University's libary.  They would have killed hundreds of students and facuilty.  They failed becasue their bomb blew up while it was being built.  Now, 40 years later, the left has glamorized these terroirsts because they were "Progressiive" and anit vietnam war.   Worse, Columbia, their intended victim has hired her as a professor.  Seriously?  Imagine if this bombing happened today.  Imagine that it was done by some right wing tea party group?  Would Columbia hire them 40 years from now as profesors?  I doubt it.  Imagine if some conserviative, southern school hired a former right wing terrorist who blew up an abortion clinic in the 1980's as a professor?  How would you farkers think about that?  The point of this article is that there is no difference between the weather underground bombers and this group of Islamic bombers.  Oh and one other thing, on the morning of September 11, 2001, the NY Times had a glowing front page tribute to one of their members, William Ayres, who helped bomb the Pentagon in the 1960's.  He is now a respected member of academia.  He said in the article that he had no regrets about that attack.  As I read that, the Pentagon was hit by a new wave of terorists.  That man, Mr. Ayres, is friends with Pres. Obama.  When Sen. Obama ran for President, the media did not care, because after all it was only left wing terror.  Once again, this is not about the NY Post, it is about a terror group that killed americans for 20 years and is now feted by polite society (get it, weather underground, the web site..ha ha) and honored in academia.  Something to think about.
 
2013-04-22 09:40:07 PM  

Mrbogey: Lionel Mandrake: Mrbogey: The reflexive need to dismiss or defend anything a left-winger does is just stupid.

Mrbogey: It'd be neat if they could not act so reflexively

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Thank heavens you posted. I was wondering what the position espoused by morons would be on this issue.


You mean you don't read your own posts?
 
2013-04-22 09:41:36 PM  

CowboyJeff: [...] ...


And another one bites the dust.

Another one gone, *ploink*, another one gone, another one bites the *poit*!
 
2013-04-22 09:42:30 PM  

CowboyJeff: You farkers are so tied up with your anti-republican, anti-NY Post bias that you are missing the point.  This is not an article written by a journalist, it is an op ed written by a victim of Ms. Boudin's terrorism.  Ms. Boudin was a member of a left wing terror group called the Weather Undergound.  They were a teror group in the 1960's - 1980's who were anti war and anti government.  I was there when they robbed the Provident Savings Bank at the Nanuet Mall in Nanuet New York.  They killed a cop.  One person got away and is now a fugitive in Cuba.  It traumatised my community.  I was in junior high, but I remember what it did to our town.  The point of this op ed is that Ms. Boudin and her group were plotting to blow up Columbia University's libary.  They would have killed hundreds of students and facuilty.  They failed becasue their bomb blew up while it was being built.  Now, 40 years later, the left has glamorized these terroirsts because they were "Progressiive" and anit vietnam war.   Worse, Columbia, their intended victim has hired her as a professor.  Seriously?  Imagine if this bombing happened today.  Imagine that it was done by some right wing tea party group?  Would Columbia hire them 40 years from now as profesors?  I doubt it.  Imagine if some conserviative, southern school hired a former right wing terrorist who blew up an abortion clinic in the 1980's as a professor?  How would you farkers think about that?  The point of this article is that there is no difference between the weather underground bombers and this group of Islamic bombers.  Oh and one other thing, on the morning of September 11, 2001, the NY Times had a glowing front page tribute to one of their members, William Ayres, who helped bomb the Pentagon in the 1960's.  He is now a respected member of academia.  He said in the article that he had no regrets about that attack.  As I read that, the Pentagon was hit by a new wave of terorists.  That man, Mr. Ayres, is friends with Pres. Obama.  W ...


10/10  The misspellings really make this.
 
2013-04-22 10:07:26 PM  

Fart_Machine: CowboyJeff: You farkers are so tied up with your anti-republican, anti-NY Post bias that you are missing the point.  This is not an article written by a journalist, it is an op ed written by a victim of Ms. Boudin's terrorism.  Ms. Boudin was a member of a left wing terror group called the Weather Undergound.  They were a teror group in the 1960's - 1980's who were anti war and anti government.  I was there when they robbed the Provident Savings Bank at the Nanuet Mall in Nanuet New York.  They killed a cop.  One person got away and is now a fugitive in Cuba.  It traumatised my community.  I was in junior high, but I remember what it did to our town.  The point of this op ed is that Ms. Boudin and her group were plotting to blow up Columbia University's libary.  They would have killed hundreds of students and facuilty.  They failed becasue their bomb blew up while it was being built.  Now, 40 years later, the left has glamorized these terroirsts because they were "Progressiive" and anit vietnam war.   Worse, Columbia, their intended victim has hired her as a professor.  Seriously?  Imagine if this bombing happened today.  Imagine that it was done by some right wing tea party group?  Would Columbia hire them 40 years from now as profesors?  I doubt it.  Imagine if some conserviative, southern school hired a former right wing terrorist who blew up an abortion clinic in the 1980's as a professor?  How would you farkers think about that?  The point of this article is that there is no difference between the weather underground bombers and this group of Islamic bombers.  Oh and one other thing, on the morning of September 11, 2001, the NY Times had a glowing front page tribute to one of their members, William Ayres, who helped bomb the Pentagon in the 1960's.  He is now a respected member of academia.  He said in the article that he had no regrets about that attack.  As I read that, the Pentagon was hit by a new wave of terorists.  That man, Mr. Ayres, is friends with Pre ...

 
2013-04-22 10:10:51 PM  
Fart_Machine:  I am sorry for the spelling errors, we can't be perfect like you..the point is that this woman was a terrorist who used bombs to kill people, just like the bomb in Boston.  She tried to bomb Columbia Univesity and failed.  Now she was hired by Coliumbia. Why?  Is Columbia saying that terrorism is OK if it is done by a left wing anti war group 40 years ago?  What will they think 40 years from now about the Boston Marathon bomber?  Care to argue my points and not my spelling?
 
2013-04-22 10:20:24 PM  
The Conservative mind thinks that anyone who spends any time in prison should be shunned for the rest of their life and never work again.
 
2013-04-22 10:31:51 PM  

CowboyJeff: Fart_Machine: I am sorry for the spelling errors, we can't be perfect like you.


No, you misunderstand.  Your trolling is very well-played sir.  Bravo!
 
2013-04-22 11:08:00 PM  

Fart_Machine: No, you misunderstand. Your trolling is very well-played sir. Bravo!


Translation: "I can't argue with anything you said, but I disagree with the conclusions you made, so I will call you names."

/ considering that CowboyJeff: is simply repeating well known talking points, surely you have a better counter argument by now... surely?
 
2013-04-22 11:10:32 PM  

Fart_Machine: Wondertwins powers activate!

Lionel Mandrake: Wondertwins power activate!


Lionel Mandrake: Shape of Herp!


Fart_Machine: Form of Derp!

 
2013-04-22 11:11:19 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: The Conservative mind thinks that anyone who spends any time in prison should be shunned for the rest of their life and never work again.


Except patriots like G Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, etc.
 
2013-04-22 11:18:57 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Except patriots like G Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, etc.


I think we can agree that:
a) The liberal mind thinks that former terrorists are acceptable in a position to shape young minds.
b) The conservative mind thinks that former political criminals are acceptable in a positions as pundits.
 
2013-04-22 11:20:22 PM  
I think it's great to hire people out of prison when they're trying to make a go at a normal life.

There are a lot of good solid sane people at all the academic places I've taught/worked. However, I also have met several basically crazy/unhinged people who work in Universities around the country.

Being a respected University doesn't mean you don't have a heap of crazy in there, simmering away.

However, I think it's kind of silly that Columbia hired her. Rehabilitated or not, the woman has got to still be crazy. Even 20 years in jail does not fix crazy.

/academic
 
2013-04-22 11:23:03 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: No, you misunderstand. Your trolling is very well-played sir. Bravo!

Translation: "I can't argue with anything you said, but I disagree with the conclusions you made, so I will call you names."

/ considering that CowboyJeff: is simply repeating well known talking points, surely you have a better counter argument by now... surely?


Translation:  I need attention badly because my life sucks.

Look, I'm sorry.  It will get better little guy.  Really.  Now run along.
 
2013-04-22 11:33:26 PM  

Fart_Machine: Look, I'm sorry. It will get better little guy. Really. Now run along.


Sooo.. then, no, you don't actually have a counterpoint to Cowboy Jeff's post. Thanks for clearing that up.

/zero points for baiting. That's just sad. funny, but sad.
 
2013-04-22 11:35:33 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: Look, I'm sorry. It will get better little guy. Really. Now run along.

Sooo.. then, no, you don't actually have a counterpoint to Cowboy Jeff's post. Thanks for clearing that up.

/zero points for baiting. That's just sad. funny, but sad.


What counterpoint do I need for an obvious troll?  Did I disturb your alt?  Is that why your panties are in a bunch about this?
 
2013-04-22 11:50:35 PM  
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2013-04-22 11:59:12 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: slapfightbaitslapfightbaitinsultnamecallslapfightbaitpointlessdef lectionslapfightbait

yawn.


Indeed. Your shtick is pretty lame.  Try another alt next time.
 
2013-04-23 12:19:37 AM  

Fart_Machine: Indeed. Your shtick is pretty lame. Try another alt next time.


Still a yawn. Told you, I'm nott gonna play slap-fight with someone acting like a child. No matter how much you call me a poopie head.

/you are sometimes better than this. must be a bad night or something.
 
2013-04-23 12:25:05 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: Indeed. Your shtick is pretty lame. Try another alt next time.

Still a yawn. Told you, I'm nott gonna play slap-fight with someone acting like a child. No matter how much you call me a poopie head.

/you are sometimes better than this. must be a bad night or something.


So goading me for not answering a troll is acting like an adult.  And since nobody has insulted you stop playing the victim.  There are better ways of getting attention.
 
2013-04-23 12:28:28 AM  
I'll save you the time and just give you what you want because I have better things to do:

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BojanglesPaladin: yawn.



sorry you are having a bad day or something. Take care.
 
2013-04-23 12:29:53 AM  

CowboyJeff: Imagine if this bombing happened today. Imagine that it was done by some right wing tea party group? Would Columbia hire them 40 years from now as profesors? I doubt it. Imagine if some conserviative, southern school hired a former right wing terrorist who blew up an abortion clinic in the 1980's as a professor? How would you farkers think about that?


Imagine if my aunt had balls. Would she be my uncle today?

I mean, yeah, but that's hardly relevant, is it? And who Columbia chooses to be their professors is not the general public's choice. You may be horrified and appalled, but unless you're on their Board of Trustees, your opinion counts for diddley/squat in their balance sheets.
 
2013-04-23 12:32:58 AM  

Gyrfalcon: You may be horrified and appalled, but unless you're on their Board of Trustees, your opinion counts for diddley/squat in their balance sheets.


True. While they are free to hire whomever they choose, they are also subject to being criticized for it, which many people are rightly doing.

/Also, I'm reasonably certain that Columbia receives a fair amount of Federal funds, so the general public's opinion of who they do and do not support and hire is maybe a little relevant.
 
2013-04-23 12:44:33 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: I'll save you the time and just give you what you want because I have better things to do:


You gotta be at the gym in 26 minutes?
 
2013-04-23 12:47:35 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: Gyrfalcon: You may be horrified and appalled, but unless you're on their Board of Trustees, your opinion counts for diddley/squat in their balance sheets.

True. While they are free to hire whomever they choose, they are also subject to being criticized for it, which many people are rightly doing.

/Also, I'm reasonably certain that Columbia receives a fair amount of Federal funds, so the general public's opinion of who they do and do not support and hire is maybe a little relevant.


Well, about as relevant as my opinion about use of Federal funds to make Hellfire missiles or pay for other crap I don't like. If you don't approve of their hiring practices, don't go there.
 
2013-04-23 12:48:26 AM  

Fart_Machine: pointless yammering


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2013-04-23 12:51:18 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, about as relevant as my opinion about use of Federal funds to make Hellfire missiles or pay for other crap I don't like. If you don't approve of their hiring practices, don't go there


We agree that public opinion on how tax dollars are spent "is maybe a little relevant."

And you do not have to attend Columbia to express a valid criticism of Columbia's decision to hire a former terrorist to teach young students.

Is your position that there is nothing wrong with Columbia hiring a convicted terrorist, or that no one should criticize that decision?
 
2013-04-23 12:52:07 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: Derp


You certainly have better things to do I see.
 
2013-04-23 12:53:09 AM  

Fart_Machine: You certainly have better things to do I see.


yawn.
 
2013-04-23 12:56:48 AM  

Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: slapfightbaitslapfightbaitinsultnamecallslapfightbaitpointlessdef lectionslapfightbait

yawn.

Indeed. Your shtick is pretty lame.  Try another alt next time.


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2013-04-23 01:03:24 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: Also, I'm reasonably certain that Columbia receives a fair amount of Federal funds


It's a private university so unless her position deals with research there isn't any federal funding going towards it.
 
2013-04-23 03:25:38 AM  
Pfft...amateurs.

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2013-04-23 07:35:36 AM  
"The Left" is a single, solid entity that "glamorizes" Weather Underground to the same extent that "The Right" is a single, solid entity that "glamorizes" Nixon stalling Vietnamese peace talks with Johnson so that he could get elected, or Reagan working with Iran to delay the release of the hostages so he could get elected, then funding rightwing Honduran death squads that raped and murdered nuns, or Bush I coordinating Iran-Contra, or Bush II sending 4000 troops to die in the defense of Big Oil.
 
2013-04-23 07:38:25 AM  

Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Also, I'm reasonably certain that Columbia receives a fair amount of Federal funds

It's a private university so unless her position deals with research there isn't any federal funding going towards it.


Minus the whole student loan thingies.
 
2013-04-23 07:42:52 AM  
it probably wouldn't be a big deal if she was teaching Math or biology or something to that effect but the fact that Columbia lists her as some social justice advocate is somewhat unnerving.  Kind of like having Jeffrey Dahmer being your culinary arts professor.
 
2013-04-23 07:48:58 AM  

Mrbogey: Silly Jesus: But Fark has informed me that there are no left wing terrorists, only right wing.

Fark lies? My whole world has just collapsed.

It'd be neat if they could not act so reflexively and admit it's a farked up situation and she shouldn't have gotten the job.

But no... "Sarah Palin!!!" or something...


Did you really just agree unironically with an admitted troll?
 
2013-04-23 07:57:33 AM  

Biological Ali: Did you really just agree unironically with an admitted troll?


have you see his "posts" before?
 
2013-04-23 08:45:25 AM  
I wonder what the intersection is between people who are worried about "former terrorists shouldn't be teaching our [college-aged, impressionable] children" and those who feel that Dzhokar Tsarnaev couldn't possibly have been unduly influenced by his older brother because "he was an adult, he was fully capable of knowing better."

From the FB comments of seen posted by various people I know, or their friends, I suspect there's significant overlap. Can't have it both ways, folks.

/btw, Ivies are all about having famous people on faculty - it's a major draw for the well-to-do
//administrative memory at Columbia seems to fail after about 3 years so not at all surprised that past events (planned or carried out) are of little consideration
 
2013-04-23 11:09:40 AM  

o5iiawah: Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Also, I'm reasonably certain that Columbia receives a fair amount of Federal funds

It's a private university so unless her position deals with research there isn't any federal funding going towards it.

Minus the whole student loan thingies.


So by all means protest the students since they get the loan.
 
2013-04-23 09:23:31 PM  
Twenty years in jail, and 10 years since parole proving to be a model citizen. If Tsarnaev can do the same thing, I'll buy him a drink myself ...in 2043.
 
2013-04-23 10:30:56 PM  

Fart_Machine: o5iiawah: Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Also, I'm reasonably certain that Columbia receives a fair amount of Federal funds

It's a private university so unless her position deals with research there isn't any federal funding going towards it.

Minus the whole student loan thingies.

So by all means protest the students since they get the loan.


The end recipient of that money is the school, which could never peddle its product in a fair market.  Charge astronomical amounts of money for a product society needs and government loans their customers money at rates and terms private banks never could.  The only person who gets screwed is the student - who gets an education that is deviating further and further from what the market is demanding, at a cost of 3-4X the rate of inflation.

But everyone gets "access" to the same crap.  Expensive access but access nonetheless.  so there's that.
 
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