Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Telegraph)   German chancellor demands European nations give up sovereignty. This is not a repeat from 1938   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 110
    More: Obvious, European nations, fiscal union, German Chancellor  
•       •       •

10680 clicks; posted to Main » on 22 Apr 2013 at 1:29 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



110 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-04-22 01:28:55 PM  
"Europe" = German bankers in her formulation.
 
2013-04-22 01:30:32 PM  

DamnYankees: "Europe" = German bankers in her formulation.


I thought the Dutch were better bankers.
 
2013-04-22 01:32:23 PM  
Sorry Merkel, but if you're not willing to go to war over this, then you have "the last word" on exactly nothing.
 
2013-04-22 01:32:30 PM  

CygnusDarius: DamnYankees: "Europe" = German bankers in her formulation.

I thought the Dutch were better bankers.


nope former slave drivers and true oil robbers
 
2013-04-22 01:32:37 PM  
I, for one, welcome our Germanic overlords.

/Again
 
2013-04-22 01:32:51 PM  
She's right you know
 
2013-04-22 01:32:54 PM  

CygnusDarius: DamnYankees: "Europe" = German bankers in her formulation.

I thought the Dutch were better bankers.


Only because a lot of the best German bankers aren't around anymore, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2013-04-22 01:33:06 PM  

DamnYankees: "Europe" = German bankers in her formulation.


I'm not certain that's accurate.

Germany favours tighter, centralised controls of national budgets and has proposed that the EU's economics commissioner should be given more powers to police countries' budgets.

The economics commissioner is Finnish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olli_Rehn

/Nice headline, though.
 
2013-04-22 01:34:47 PM  

EZ Writer: I, for one, welcome our Germanic overlords.

/Again


I'm buying Ford, GM and IBM stock TODAY!!1!

/Either way, whichever side wins, I make boodles
 
2013-04-22 01:36:10 PM  
France is not going to take this laying down!

What's that Germany? You insist strongly? Very well. We surrender!
 
2013-04-22 01:36:26 PM  
You know who else wanted all of Europe to relinquish their sovereignty?
 
2013-04-22 01:36:39 PM  
Other European countries, particularly France, disagree with this approach

Remember the last time you disagreed with the Germans? How'd that work out for ya, France?
 
2013-04-22 01:37:26 PM  
What are 'Pen-shuns'?
 
2013-04-22 01:37:30 PM  
the chancellor said that eurozone members had to be prepared to surrender authority to European institutions.

img.cache.vevo.com

Highway to the eurozone
Ride into the eurozone
 
2013-04-22 01:38:10 PM  
I didn't realize that when she said "Europe", she actually meant "Germany".  Thanks for translating for us, Subby.

/oh noes!  It's just like someone pointing out that the federal government has the last word on some issues, rather than the States!
 
2013-04-22 01:38:25 PM  
All I see here is join up now so we can tell you how to run your country


Euro reminds me of the Amero

The only way I would accept something like this would be if all borders between countries were dropped.

Enough is enough

Germany and france are not two different things, it's the exact same place in the exact same place of the world, sure the cultures are different but all in all it's pretty much the same land

it's not an insult

just like canada and usa

They want to merge our money but close the borders even more so only money and control can be passed along freely.
 
2013-04-22 01:39:09 PM  

draypresct: DamnYankees: "Europe" = German bankers in her formulation.

I'm not certain that's accurate.

Germany favours tighter, centralised controls of national budgets and has proposed that the EU's economics commissioner should be given more powers to police countries' budgets.

The economics commissioner is Finnish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olli_Rehn

/Nice headline, though.


Olli Rehn may be Finnish, but his policies favor the German banking class. His personal biogaphical details aren't very relevant.
 
2013-04-22 01:39:26 PM  
Just let them have it this time.
 
2013-04-22 01:40:12 PM  
I like this headline.

/Every conversation I'm in lately ends up at Hitler. More than usual, and I've been on the 'tubes a long time. WTF.
 
2013-04-22 01:40:19 PM  
It seems like every couple of decades, like clockwork, the German government decides 'You know what, we should be ruling all of Europe'


At least it seems that post-WWII they only talk about it.
 
2013-04-22 01:41:15 PM  
It is beautiful. All these countries flocked to join the European Union, then once they were together, got angry that their sovereign rights were jeopardized.

You mean, to be part of something bigger means I have to be PART of something bigger?

imageshack.us
 
2013-04-22 01:41:54 PM  

Tatsuma: It seems like every couple of decades, like clockwork, the German government decides 'You know what, we should be ruling all of Europe'


At least it seems that post-WWII they only talk about it.


So far
 
2013-04-22 01:42:21 PM  

Tatsuma: It seems like every couple of decades, like clockwork, the German government decides 'You know what, we should be ruling all of Europe'

At least it seems that post-WWII they only talk about it.


My ancestry is German, but I know fark-all about the fatherland or its culture. All I have left is an appreciation for sausage and beer, and an irrational urge to overrun Europe every 50 years or so.

Speaking of which...*looks at watch, calendar*...
 
2013-04-22 01:43:16 PM  
So if they dont play nice and give it up a bunch of panzers with  €€ on the side show up?
 
2013-04-22 01:43:16 PM  

PapaChester: It is beautiful. All these countries flocked to join the European Union, then once they were together, got angry that their sovereign rights were jeopardized.

You mean, to be part of something bigger means I have to be PART of something bigger?

[imageshack.us image 300x300]


And the banks rolled in...
 
2013-04-22 01:44:30 PM  
The Polish prime minister said it would be "dangerous" if other countries in Europe felt Germany was imposing its own economic model across the entire bloc

Słowo.
 
2013-04-22 01:44:33 PM  

PapaChester: It is beautiful. All these countries flocked to join the European Union, then once they were together, got angry that their sovereign rights were jeopardized.

You mean, to be part of something bigger means I have to be PART of something bigger?

[imageshack.us image 300x300]


You realize its the GERMANS that have this attitude, right? Not the periphery. It's the Germans who don't want to adjust fiscal or monetary policy to support the other countries, not vice versa.
 
2013-04-22 01:44:39 PM  
If Europe is going to remain a competitor on the world stage, it has to solve several problems. The aging of Europe is probably the most critical one, as the reduction in workforce and worker-retiree ratio can get things messed up pretty quick.

The other thing that they need to address is how much power is in a federal Europe. Individual states in Europe aren't going to be able to maintain economic or diplomatic competitiveness on the world stage versus China and the United States. They're going to need to form a more perfect union. I think in my lifetime, the President of the United States will go an entire year without sitting with the Ambassador of France, but with seeing the Ambassador from Europe.
 
2013-04-22 01:47:27 PM  
vwarb: " Sorry Merkel, but if you're not willing to go to war over this, then you have "the last word" on exactly nothing."

If the periphery/troubled nations aren't willing to quit the Euro, then she's absolutely right.
 
2013-04-22 01:47:34 PM  
Germany is paying for countries that party hardy but don't pay the bill.  They would like responsible accounting.  It's like a parent giving a loan to a kid who blows his wad on pot and forgets to back.  Which explains Greece.
 
2013-04-22 01:48:27 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Tatsuma: It seems like every couple of decades, like clockwork, the German government decides 'You know what, we should be ruling all of Europe'

At least it seems that post-WWII they only talk about it.

My ancestry is German, but I know fark-all about the fatherland or its culture. All I have left is an appreciation for sausage and beer, and an irrational urge to overrun Europe every 50 years or so.

Speaking of which...*looks at watch, calendar*...


Same cross, different century.

www.panzerbaer.de
 
2013-04-22 01:50:13 PM  
Hegemony

www.factzoo.com
 
2013-04-22 01:50:15 PM  
Dnrtfa - but looking at the pic of Merkel on the page gave me a wierd "Emperor Palpatine" moment.
 
2013-04-22 01:50:33 PM  

groppet: So if they dont play nice and give it up a bunch of panzers with  €€ on the side show up?


Panzers are sssooooo WWII. Germany has the best battle tank: Leopard II

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-22 01:50:40 PM  
Do they need more living space?
 
2013-04-22 01:51:35 PM  

Amusement: Germany is paying for countries that party hardy but don't pay the bill.  They would like responsible accounting.  It's like a parent giving a loan to a kid who blows his wad on pot and forgets to back.  Which explains Greece.


Germany is paying countries to buy superior and cheaper German goods, vs the expensive stuff made by the less efficient south of Europe.  They give Greece and Italy money to buy German stuff to keep German workers employed, much the way China gives the US money to buy Chinese made goods.
 
2013-04-22 01:52:28 PM  

Amusement: Germany is paying for countries that party hardy but don't pay the bill.  They would like responsible accounting.  It's like a parent giving a loan to a kid who blows his wad on pot and forgets to back.  Which explains Greece.


The part you forgot to mention:  Germany the parent kept loaning money to Greece the child for wild parties.  Germany the parent knew exactly what the money was going for, but was making a good return off of it.  Then suddenly times got hard and Germany the parent got all righteous and preachy.

This is the same thing as American banks saying, "Those lazy shiftless cunning urbanites TRICKED us into giving them mortgages they couldn't afford, and we can't see why we should have to lose a single nickel over it.  We are the victims, after all."

It's easy to be righteous and preachy when you close your eyes to your own role in the debacle.
 
2013-04-22 01:52:53 PM  

MadHatter500: Dnrtfa - but looking at the pic of Merkel on the page gave me a wierd "Emperor Palpatine" moment.


So that's what you call your peen?
 
2013-04-22 01:52:58 PM  
I kind of feel bad for this woman. It's like she's the only adult in a Chucky Cheese filled with kids on a sugar binge.

As a side note she seems to very much dislike being touched. The G.W. incident was pretty bad but most pictures you see of her where any level of physical contact is involved she's got that same icked out expression.
 
2013-04-22 01:53:20 PM  

vwarb: Sorry Merkel, but if you're not willing to go to war over this, then you have "the last word" on exactly nothing.


You couldn't be more wrong.

Money can be more powerful than bullets.   As the leader of the most powerful economy in Europe, Merkel can destroy an economy with words.

Merkel is the most powerful person in Europe and has "the last word" on far more than you can imagine.
 
2013-04-22 01:53:46 PM  

WeenerGord: She's right you know


That is the hardest I have laughed at a comment in a looong time.
 
2013-04-22 01:54:30 PM  
Why should the individual states of the United States European Union believe that they have any sovereign "rights" or "autonomy"?

Why shouldn't they simply accept the greater wisdom of the laws and regulations as decided by the Centralized Authority in Washington Germany?

We've seen the evil that has been done in the name of "States Rights".

How is resisting the collective authority of the Union anything other than sedition?


/Abe Lincoln wouldn't have stood for it
 
2013-04-22 01:56:56 PM  
But France has the Maginot Line.
 
2013-04-22 01:57:59 PM  

ferretman: groppet: So if they dont play nice and give it up a bunch of panzers with  €€ on the side show up?

Panzers are sssooooo WWII. Germany has the best battle tank: Leopard II


That is a panzer - panzer means "tank"
 
2013-04-22 01:58:03 PM  

AngryDragon: So far


Fair enough

Fuggin Bizzy: My ancestry is German, but I know fark-all about the fatherland or its culture. All I have left is an appreciation for sausage and beer, and an irrational urge to overrun Europe every 50 years or so.

Speaking of which...*looks at watch, calendar*...


VE VERE INVITED FOR TEA!
 
2013-04-22 01:58:57 PM  
THX 1138: "It's just like someone pointing out that the federal government has the last word on some issues, rather than the States!"

Yeah, except in the European case, when the real estate market wiped out their economies the 'Fed' told 'Florida'/'Nevada'/et al to rub some dirt on and cut the shiat out of Education, Medicare and Social Security so as not to miss debt payments. And if they happened to get the idea to raid private bank accounts to come up with the money, they wouldn't say *no*.
Which, if that happened here, you can imagine those States would be only too damn aware that the Fed had the final word and wouldn't remotely appreciate having it pointed out. Let alone in a chastising context.

In our case, we continued to subsidize troubled areas with *billions* in automatic/implicit payments, so it's hardly the same thing.

/ On the contrary, it's rather a dick move when *they* get all uppity about "Taxes", seeing as how they're (much-more-often-than-not) net beneficiaries of Federal taxes as a matter of course
 
2013-04-22 02:00:05 PM  

ferretman: groppet: So if they dont play nice and give it up a bunch of panzers with  €€ on the side show up?

Panzers are sssooooo WWII. Germany has the best battle tank: Leopard II

[upload.wikimedia.org image 658x440]


Funny how all the pictures of the Leopard are pointing West...
 
2013-04-22 02:01:39 PM  

Lord Dimwit: If Europe is going to remain a competitor on the world stage, it has to solve several problems. The aging of Europe is probably the most critical one, as the reduction in workforce and worker-retiree ratio can get things messed up pretty quick.


A few years ago my team was part of a futures exercise in Europe, and one of the scenarios described a Europe in 2030-2040 that had remarkably good economic growth (competitive with Asia and North America), and had also managed to keep all those pesky immigrants out of the Schengen Zone. When my deputy (a geographer by training) pointed out that this was an inherent contradiction ("Where does Europe find its workers?"), he got slapped down by one of the German coordinators, "We do not question such things!"

/CSB
 
2013-04-22 02:02:04 PM  
In other news, she recently took out a second mortgage on the Sudetenland.
 
2013-04-22 02:02:33 PM  
What's "We hang together, or we hang separately" in German?
 
Displayed 50 of 110 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report