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(Telegraph)   Amazon's changed their search algorithm to exclude smut; "It's a pornocaust," said one online erotica author   (blogs.telegraph.co.uk) divider line 23
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2013-04-22 02:10:50 PM
3 votes:

Endive Wombat: When Google did away with a significant amount of porn in the image search, I was happy.  This too makes me happy.  I am not a prude, but when I search something relatively innocuous, I should not get hardcore porn.


There's a thing called safe search, maybe you've heard of it?
2013-04-22 01:20:00 PM
2 votes:
Couldn't they just do a safesearch toggle like, i dunno, *everything* else?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-22 11:47:45 AM
2 votes:
Even 50 Shades of Grey, one of the most ubiquitous books in the world right now, is caught by the filter.

No hero tag?
2013-04-23 12:57:44 AM
1 votes:
I just put a novel on Amazon and clicked the adult button because it has sex scenes. Wonder if I should edit description to include 'not a children's book' instead?
/Airesford
//humor, romance & zombies
///shameless plug
2013-04-22 05:23:04 PM
1 votes:

abhorrent1: Why is this erotica crap so popular when probably 99% of the women who read it would probably never be willing to do the things they read about  in the books?


They're willing.  Just not with you.
2013-04-22 05:19:00 PM
1 votes:

yet_another_wumpus: They aren't just segregating it? There's a reason it comes up so much: it sells. From what I understand it pretty much keeps the second hand book business going. I can only hope that Barnes & Nobel jump in and push the porn (and manage to keep brick and mortar bookstores alive).

My understanding is that book porn is like movie porn. You could divide the publishing industry into 20 genres of porn and non-porn and the non-porn will still only contain relatively tiny array of titles. All that competition, and one of the best science fiction writers Lois McMaster Bujold is still trying to break into porn (I'm guessing she is going more for the 50 shades of grey level than the "buy the lot unseen" mentioned above).


Augh, what?? Bujold writing porn?? Please tell me this is not a joke. She would write *amazing* erotica. Oh please be true please be true please be true.
2013-04-22 03:07:21 PM
1 votes:

FedExPope: Endive Wombat: When Google did away with a significant amount of porn in the image search, I was happy.  This too makes me happy.  I am not a prude, but when I search something relatively innocuous, I should not get hardcore porn.

There's a thing called safe search, maybe you've heard of it?


Even with Safe Search on, you would still get NSFW results.  Yeah, you are not going to be fired if you are searching something innocent like "Cisco IP Phone" and somewhere in the images pops up with an image of a woman with a phone in her vag...but I would rather not see that shiat at work.  You understand?
2013-04-22 02:21:04 PM
1 votes:

Evil Mackerel: rzrwiresunrise: kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

All that after I get out of my firefighter uniform, put up my purple heart that I earned in the war, right next to the Daytona Cup I won just for you so I could prove I was more than just the secret heir to an oil fortune my father built from his castle in Scotland.

Are you an astronaut?


I was accepted to the program, but had to save a litter of kittens from a burning building I passed while riding my Harley in my kilt without a helmet, my long hair trailing in the wind.
2013-04-22 01:59:30 PM
1 votes:

mike_d85: abhorrent1: Why is this erotica crap so popular when probably 99% of the women who read it would probably never be willing to do the things they read about  in the books?

Because knowing SOMEONE is into something 1000x weirder makes you comfortable with your weirdness.


Why are action movies so popular when 99% of the men who see them aren't willing to be a loose cannon detective who fights giant, alien robots? It's escapism. Nobody wants their action movie to feature a cop who shoots a suspect and spends the rest of the movie with PTSD, crying, and no women want their porn to be vanilla missionary sex where the guy cums too quickly while thinking about somebody other than her, then rolls over and falls asleep.

/to be fair, somebody probably has a kink out there like that
2013-04-22 01:49:03 PM
1 votes:
I'm in the process of writing my first ladyporn book. Fifty Shades sold seventy million copies. Seventy million copies! It's horribly written, sexually infantile, and did I mention horribly written? But yeah, seventy million copies. It was the biggest wake-up call of my life when I realized how low the bar had been set in this genre (and just how wide the porn door was thrown open for stay-at-home moms). You know that voice in your head that - while you're writing - constantly edits and criticizes? You can completely ignore it while writing smut.

The expectations of quality are so low that you will trip over it when you write a coherent sentence.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-22 01:41:07 PM
1 votes:
Lord Dimwit

A woman who occasionally read romances once told me elements on the covers, or maybe spines, were intended to place them into subgenres. This means our heroine gets married and has children, that means sex scenes, and so on. I forget the details, not being in the market for such books.
2013-04-22 01:40:24 PM
1 votes:

Gergesa: CygnusDarius: You do know that Fifty Shades of Grey started as a Twilight fanfic? At least this is how the story goes.

I don't mind fanfiction really, but the writers need to not be lazy and put some effort into it.  There shouldn't be spelling/grammar errors every fifth word.

Still I suppose it is better than being a freeper.


My problem with fanfic -including my own- is too much projection. Sometimes it's good to make a character so disconnected to you that it turns into an entity of its own, and one that usually writes itself, basically (I've only done that once).

/Then again, I write as a hobby
//So I know nothing
///Jon Snow
2013-04-22 01:32:59 PM
1 votes:

K.B.O. Winston: As someone who just bought a new laptop with her gay romance novel royalties, I'm not sure how concerned I should be about this.  More exposure is better (insert 'especially in porn' joke here) but my impression was that some people buy whatever is new as long as the cover looks good, some people buy things if they're on the best-seller lists, and other buy things when they're free.

I'm not sure how many people search on Amazon, accidentally get some porny results, and then buy the porn instead of what they were originally looking for.  This may be a tempest in a teacup, sales-wise.


Only thing I can see is that if they're not looking specifically in books but type out 'gay romance' you book will not show up in the results.  Not sure if that will greatly impact sales or not, but as a non-erotica self published author I can see why some might be upset even if it has limited impact.  It's hard enough to get word out there, promote it, etc and hearing that one avenue has become narrower must be frustrating, especially when it comes from the majority sales leader of eBooks.
2013-04-22 01:28:56 PM
1 votes:
Grables'Daughter:

Don't know how long you have been back but, Hey welcome back.  nice to see you on Fark again.
2013-04-22 01:26:45 PM
1 votes:

Gergesa: I have sometimes contemplated writing a hardcore story and seeing if it sells on a site like this(price it as 2.99 or something.)  If Fifty Shades of Grey can sell well despite deplorable writing perhaps it is a surprisingly lucrative market where a story involving gang bang on prom night in a church with the football team will do well.


You do know that Fifty Shades of Grey started as a Twilight fanfic? At least this is how the story goes.

/And yes
//Sometimes bad books sell well
///Just ask Stephanie Meyer
2013-04-22 01:26:31 PM
1 votes:
Treygreen13: I don't think teen gangbangs are really a successful literary market. Except for:[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x293]

I read that book. It has nothing to do with the frightening world of Information Technology.
2013-04-22 01:24:14 PM
1 votes:

Grables'Daughter: TheShavingofOccam123: But Amazon has no problem allowing scam artists to sell on Amazon.com. Dollar bill, dollar bill, dollar bill.

I don't understand what you mean...


Amazon.com IS IN IT FOR THE MONEY!!1!

/basically, if you buy anything that Amazon.com doesn't sell and ship themselves, you may be screwed over. If I want that kind of risk I'll buy on eBay or some other site.
2013-04-22 01:13:46 PM
1 votes:
When Google did away with a significant amount of porn in the image search, I was happy.  This too makes me happy.  I am not a prude, but when I search something relatively innocuous, I should not get hardcore porn.
2013-04-22 01:09:21 PM
1 votes:

Gergesa: I have sometimes contemplated writing a hardcore story and seeing if it sells on a site like this(price it as 2.99 or something.)  If Fifty Shades of Grey can sell well despite deplorable writing perhaps it is a surprisingly lucrative market where a story involving gang bang on prom night in a church with the football team will do well.


I don't think teen gangbangs are really a successful literary market. Except for:upload.wikimedia.org
2013-04-22 01:08:04 PM
1 votes:
So, we need a new search engine to find the "erotica" on Amazon.

Okay Code Monkeys!  Write a search engine that filters the catalog of ONE website, to find pages that have been deliberately hidden.
2013-04-22 01:06:37 PM
1 votes:

JohnAnnArbor: "Pornocaust" could be a good band name, depending on the band.


Noted.   ; )
2013-04-22 12:55:29 PM
1 votes:

Thoguh: Good.  All the porn for lonely housewifes made it basically impossible to find anything in the Kindle store.


My wife used to read dime store romances. At a garage sale a couple of years ago, she placed piles of them out for people to buy. I asked if she should lay them out in such a way that buyers could see the covers, so they'd know which ones they wanted. "They're all basically the same," she says. Damned if not fifteen minutes later, someone comes and buys the whole stack without even bothering to look at them.
2013-04-22 12:01:51 PM
1 votes:
"Pornocaust" could be a good band name, depending on the band.
 
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