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(Telegraph)   Amazon's changed their search algorithm to exclude smut; "It's a pornocaust," said one online erotica author   (blogs.telegraph.co.uk) divider line 106
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-22 11:47:45 AM
Even 50 Shades of Grey, one of the most ubiquitous books in the world right now, is caught by the filter.

No hero tag?
 
2013-04-22 12:00:44 PM
"Give me smut and nothing but
I'm a market they can't they can't glut"
 
2013-04-22 12:01:51 PM
"Pornocaust" could be a good band name, depending on the band.
 
2013-04-22 12:06:19 PM

ZAZ: Even 50 Shades of Grey, one of the most ubiquitous books in the world right now, is caught by the filter.

No hero tag?


Some sacrifices had to be made to limit people's ability to find this trash. I think it was worth it.
 
2013-04-22 12:11:24 PM
Good.  All the porn for lonely housewifes made it basically impossible to find anything in the Kindle store.
 
2013-04-22 12:41:46 PM
Hey guys, I'm trying to get my book published.  This is a huge setback.  EIP if you can help.  I'm not interested in money, I just want it out where people can appreciate it.
 
2013-04-22 12:55:29 PM

Thoguh: Good.  All the porn for lonely housewifes made it basically impossible to find anything in the Kindle store.


My wife used to read dime store romances. At a garage sale a couple of years ago, she placed piles of them out for people to buy. I asked if she should lay them out in such a way that buyers could see the covers, so they'd know which ones they wanted. "They're all basically the same," she says. Damned if not fifteen minutes later, someone comes and buys the whole stack without even bothering to look at them.
 
2013-04-22 01:00:26 PM

staplermofo: Hey guys, I'm trying to get my book published.  This is a huge setback.  EIP if you can help.  I'm not interested in money, I just want it out where people can appreciate it.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-22 01:01:14 PM
I wanted to find something related to rabbits for a gift. The search results were rather interesting.

Worst. Mother's. Day. Gift. Evar.
 
2013-04-22 01:01:37 PM

JohnAnnArbor: "Pornocaust" could be a good band name, depending on the band.


Some sort of funk/soul/RHCP tribute sort of band, I'd imagine?
 
2013-04-22 01:01:46 PM

staplermofo: Hey guys, I'm trying to get my book published.  This is a huge setback.  EIP if you can help.  I'm not interested in money, I just want it out where people can appreciate it.


http://www.colorwise.com/ Pretty good for "high" volume stuff. They make plates, so one copy will cost you way too much, but a hundred comes in at <$20/each for hardback.

http://www.book1one.com/ For lower run stuff. Also good, but I think they use inkjets.

If you meant "online" publishing, just get a copy of LyX and make yourself a PDF. It's not that hard.
 
2013-04-22 01:04:15 PM
So, if they've excluded it from their search results, but are still selling it, then how can I find it?
 
2013-04-22 01:05:22 PM
Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.
 
2013-04-22 01:06:22 PM
"tentacle erotica"Showing 1 - 16 of 620 Results
 
2013-04-22 01:06:37 PM

JohnAnnArbor: "Pornocaust" could be a good band name, depending on the band.


Noted.   ; )
 
2013-04-22 01:06:48 PM
kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

I'll take two of those three.
 
2013-04-22 01:06:55 PM
I have sometimes contemplated writing a hardcore story and seeing if it sells on a site like this(price it as 2.99 or something.)  If Fifty Shades of Grey can sell well despite deplorable writing perhaps it is a surprisingly lucrative market where a story involving gang bang on prom night in a church with the football team will do well.
 
2013-04-22 01:08:04 PM
So, we need a new search engine to find the "erotica" on Amazon.

Okay Code Monkeys!  Write a search engine that filters the catalog of ONE website, to find pages that have been deliberately hidden.
 
2013-04-22 01:08:26 PM
Worried my book wasn't going to show up because there's a story with hookers in it, but it's still showing up.

I'm not a fan of erotica or the questionable quality of writing of so much of the genre, it's goofy for Amazon to try to hide it in a corner.  They should maybe change the algorithm but give users the choice to include adult content or not, like google's safe search function.
 
2013-04-22 01:08:36 PM
You just have to work the system.

To find "cock" enter "personal massager".

To find "Ron Jeremy" enter "Harley Davidson Fathead".

To find "Jonah Falcon" enter "Ron Jeremy and 12 of his friends riding a Harley Davidson Fathead".
 
2013-04-22 01:09:21 PM

Gergesa: I have sometimes contemplated writing a hardcore story and seeing if it sells on a site like this(price it as 2.99 or something.)  If Fifty Shades of Grey can sell well despite deplorable writing perhaps it is a surprisingly lucrative market where a story involving gang bang on prom night in a church with the football team will do well.


I don't think teen gangbangs are really a successful literary market. Except for:upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-22 01:12:04 PM
Most of their audience doesn't want porn. As someone who frequently searches for information on how to capture, sedate and lubricate goats for purely scientific purposes, I welcome this.
 
2013-04-22 01:12:12 PM
I just got an update on my phone, and the algorithm now excludes all cuss words. I need to type each one and double check it for accuracy, because someone else feels the need to force their morality on me. It's like my mother in law designed it.
 
2013-04-22 01:12:13 PM
That's what new dirty words are for.
 
2013-04-22 01:12:39 PM

sodomizer: Most of their audience doesn't want porn. As someone who frequently searches for information on how to capture, sedate and lubricate goats for purely scientific purposes, I welcome this.


Combined with your user name, that's fantastic.
 
2013-04-22 01:13:35 PM
They aren't just segregating it? There's a reason it comes up so much: it sells. From what I understand it pretty much keeps the second hand book business going. I can only hope that Barnes & Nobel jump in and push the porn (and manage to keep brick and mortar bookstores alive).

My understanding is that book porn is like movie porn. You could divide the publishing industry into 20 genres of porn and non-porn and the non-porn will still only contain relatively tiny array of titles. All that competition, and one of the best science fiction writers Lois McMaster Bujold is still trying to break into porn (I'm guessing she is going more for the 50 shades of grey level than the "buy the lot unseen" mentioned above).
 
2013-04-22 01:13:46 PM
When Google did away with a significant amount of porn in the image search, I was happy.  This too makes me happy.  I am not a prude, but when I search something relatively innocuous, I should not get hardcore porn.
 
2013-04-22 01:14:06 PM

kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.


All that after I get out of my firefighter uniform, put up my purple heart that I earned in the war, right next to the Daytona Cup I won just for you so I could prove I was more than just the secret heir to an oil fortune my father built from his castle in Scotland.
 
2013-04-22 01:18:11 PM

funzyr: I just got an update on my phone, and the algorithm now excludes all cuss words. I need to type each one and double check it for accuracy, because someone else feels the need to force their morality on me. It's like my mother in law designed it.


But Amazon has no problem allowing scam artists to sell on Amazon.com. Dollar bill, dollar bill, dollar bill.

I especially like all the ship direct from China sellers on Amazon.com now. Return policy? Sure...
 
2013-04-22 01:19:18 PM
As someone who just bought a new laptop with her gay romance novel royalties, I'm not sure how concerned I should be about this.  More exposure is better (insert 'especially in porn' joke here) but my impression was that some people buy whatever is new as long as the cover looks good, some people buy things if they're on the best-seller lists, and other buy things when they're free.

I'm not sure how many people search on Amazon, accidentally get some porny results, and then buy the porn instead of what they were originally looking for.  This may be a tempest in a teacup, sales-wise.
 
2013-04-22 01:20:00 PM
Couldn't they just do a safesearch toggle like, i dunno, *everything* else?
 
2013-04-22 01:20:07 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: But Amazon has no problem allowing scam artists to sell on Amazon.com. Dollar bill, dollar bill, dollar bill.

I don't understand what you mean...
 
2013-04-22 01:21:57 PM

rzrwiresunrise: kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

All that after I get out of my firefighter uniform, put up my purple heart that I earned in the war, right next to the Daytona Cup I won just for you so I could prove I was more than just the secret heir to an oil fortune my father built from his castle in Scotland.


her sensual woman flower is now dripping dew.
 
2013-04-22 01:23:00 PM

Grables'Daughter: TheShavingofOccam123: But Amazon has no problem allowing scam artists to sell on Amazon.com. Dollar bill, dollar bill, dollar bill.

I don't understand what you mean...


The irony....it's killing me.
 
2013-04-22 01:24:14 PM

Grables'Daughter: TheShavingofOccam123: But Amazon has no problem allowing scam artists to sell on Amazon.com. Dollar bill, dollar bill, dollar bill.

I don't understand what you mean...


Amazon.com IS IN IT FOR THE MONEY!!1!

/basically, if you buy anything that Amazon.com doesn't sell and ship themselves, you may be screwed over. If I want that kind of risk I'll buy on eBay or some other site.
 
2013-04-22 01:25:07 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Grables'Daughter: TheShavingofOccam123: But Amazon has no problem allowing scam artists to sell on Amazon.com. Dollar bill, dollar bill, dollar bill.

I don't understand what you mean...

Amazon.com IS IN IT FOR THE MONEY!!1!

/basically, if you buy anything that Amazon.com doesn't sell and ship themselves, you may be screwed over. If I want that kind of risk I'll buy on eBay or some other site.


Oh, I see. Thank you for explaining.
 
2013-04-22 01:26:31 PM
Treygreen13: I don't think teen gangbangs are really a successful literary market. Except for:[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x293]

I read that book. It has nothing to do with the frightening world of Information Technology.
 
2013-04-22 01:26:45 PM

Gergesa: I have sometimes contemplated writing a hardcore story and seeing if it sells on a site like this(price it as 2.99 or something.)  If Fifty Shades of Grey can sell well despite deplorable writing perhaps it is a surprisingly lucrative market where a story involving gang bang on prom night in a church with the football team will do well.


You do know that Fifty Shades of Grey started as a Twilight fanfic? At least this is how the story goes.

/And yes
//Sometimes bad books sell well
///Just ask Stephanie Meyer
 
2013-04-22 01:27:10 PM

Grables'Daughter: kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

I'll take two of those three.


I have a strong stomach, if that's what you mean!
 
2013-04-22 01:27:14 PM

Grables'Daughter: kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

I'll take two of those three.


You're okay with the bridle?
 
2013-04-22 01:28:50 PM

Treygreen13: Gergesa: I have sometimes contemplated writing a hardcore story and seeing if it sells on a site like this(price it as 2.99 or something.)  If Fifty Shades of Grey can sell well despite deplorable writing perhaps it is a surprisingly lucrative market where a story involving gang bang on prom night in a church with the football team will do well.

I don't think teen gangbangs are really a successful literary market. Except for:[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x293]


I said in a church not in the sewer system after battling an extra dimensional spider!!!!  For heaven's sake man, there is a world of difference!!
 
2013-04-22 01:28:56 PM
Grables'Daughter:

Don't know how long you have been back but, Hey welcome back.  nice to see you on Fark again.
 
2013-04-22 01:32:32 PM

CygnusDarius: You do know that Fifty Shades of Grey started as a Twilight fanfic? At least this is how the story goes.


I don't mind fanfiction really, but the writers need to not be lazy and put some effort into it.  There shouldn't be spelling/grammar errors every fifth word.

Still I suppose it is better than being a freeper.
 
2013-04-22 01:32:46 PM
Does this mean it will be harder to find the Nimbus 2000?
 
2013-04-22 01:32:59 PM

K.B.O. Winston: As someone who just bought a new laptop with her gay romance novel royalties, I'm not sure how concerned I should be about this.  More exposure is better (insert 'especially in porn' joke here) but my impression was that some people buy whatever is new as long as the cover looks good, some people buy things if they're on the best-seller lists, and other buy things when they're free.

I'm not sure how many people search on Amazon, accidentally get some porny results, and then buy the porn instead of what they were originally looking for.  This may be a tempest in a teacup, sales-wise.


Only thing I can see is that if they're not looking specifically in books but type out 'gay romance' you book will not show up in the results.  Not sure if that will greatly impact sales or not, but as a non-erotica self published author I can see why some might be upset even if it has limited impact.  It's hard enough to get word out there, promote it, etc and hearing that one avenue has become narrower must be frustrating, especially when it comes from the majority sales leader of eBooks.
 
2013-04-22 01:40:24 PM

Gergesa: CygnusDarius: You do know that Fifty Shades of Grey started as a Twilight fanfic? At least this is how the story goes.

I don't mind fanfiction really, but the writers need to not be lazy and put some effort into it.  There shouldn't be spelling/grammar errors every fifth word.

Still I suppose it is better than being a freeper.


My problem with fanfic -including my own- is too much projection. Sometimes it's good to make a character so disconnected to you that it turns into an entity of its own, and one that usually writes itself, basically (I've only done that once).

/Then again, I write as a hobby
//So I know nothing
///Jon Snow
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-22 01:41:07 PM
Lord Dimwit

A woman who occasionally read romances once told me elements on the covers, or maybe spines, were intended to place them into subgenres. This means our heroine gets married and has children, that means sex scenes, and so on. I forget the details, not being in the market for such books.
 
2013-04-22 01:41:50 PM

Grables'Daughter: kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

I'll take two of those three.


so will my gf, but she doesnt get the washboard abs
 
2013-04-22 01:44:49 PM
Does this have to do with Amazon sending me e-mail about products that are directly related to the YouTube videos I watch?

I know it isn't but I want to know if other people are having this happen.
 
2013-04-22 01:45:00 PM

Grables'Daughter: kid_icarus: Lady porn gives women unrealistic expectations about real life men. I should not be expected to maintain washboard abs, romance you, AND ravish you nightly with unbridled passion and ecstasy.

I'll take two of those three.


You got it. No romance.
 
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