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(Jezebel)   What men want from a relationship is not a place to recharge, nor feel secure, nor where we can be ourselves but a growth experience where the man listens to a woman's every thought and worry and figures out what her facial expression means   (jezebel.com) divider line 377
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2013-04-22 12:43:36 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-22 12:53:20 AM

teto85: 25.media.tumblr.com


You're reading what passes as "feminist critique" among the more modern and less intellectually interested "feminists".

Unlike the feminist of yore, which might have actually had many fine and insightful points to make about how society tends to emphasize and favor the "masculine" over the "feminine" (no, really, guy here, and a lot of feminism is interesting philosophically!), this author, like many of her ilk, have been reduced to complaining about men complaining.

Which, really, is about the opposite of feminism. Hey, lady, how about you stop obsessing over what men say and do, and forge your own place in the world? Yeah, didn't think so, that would be too hard, wouldn't it?

And she's really trying to be funny, but managing to come off as even less funny and more pissy than most conservative "comedians".

Sad.

/and that's what you're reading!
 
2013-04-22 02:10:13 AM
Jezebel is my favorite comedy site. They're good.
 
2013-04-22 02:34:21 AM

Sid_6.7: teto85: 25.media.tumblr.com

You're reading what passes as "feminist critique" among the more modern and less intellectually interested "feminists".

Unlike the feminist of yore, which might have actually had many fine and insightful points to make about how society tends to emphasize and favor the "masculine" over the "feminine" (no, really, guy here, and a lot of feminism is interesting philosophically!), this author, like many of her ilk, have been reduced to complaining about men complaining.

Which, really, is about the opposite of feminism. Hey, lady, how about you stop obsessing over what men say and do, and forge your own place in the world? Yeah, didn't think so, that would be too hard, wouldn't it?

And she's really trying to be funny, but managing to come off as even less funny and more pissy than most conservative "comedians".

Sad.

/and that's what you're reading!


i426.photobucket.com

\when did feminism stop being about equality?
\\equality is what I still look to create and what my GF and I are all about.
 
2013-04-22 02:58:29 AM
Step 1. Imagine your boyfriend is The Predator

I was thinking Terminator. "I'll be back" simply means "I came".

/stupid article
 
2013-04-22 06:28:20 AM
That article was a colossal clusterfark of stupid. Plus, it wasn't funny.

How about we just call a truce in the whole battle of the sexes thing? Yeah, I'm sure at various times each sex has had it worse, and the other has gotten off easier (heh), but in the context of relationships, it's not relevant. Genuine relationships boil down to the interactions and choices between two individuals, not their allegiance to a specific gender. This whole attempt to generalize both sides and shoehorn them into fitting into some specific narrative simply abrogates the responsibilities and consequences that arise from people's own actions and decisions. Or whatever.
 
2013-04-22 06:56:43 AM
We want a place where we don't have to be on our best behavior, where we don't have to walk on egg shells and where we don't have to pretend that we're something we're not

That place was work, until women came along and started making all kind of rules. Now, you try to be yourself and the sewing circle in HR sends you off to Diversity Training. Just pinch an intern's butt, and you'll be spending the next week listening to some fat lesbian talk about her feelings. Women have only themselves to blame if we want home to be a little more relaxed as a result.
 
2013-04-22 07:19:24 AM
Dafuq did I just read?
 
2013-04-22 07:22:00 AM
i2.kym-cdn.com

Wow. Too early for gibberish like that.
 
2013-04-22 07:22:28 AM
SHA!!
 
2013-04-22 07:23:56 AM
I just want her to stop laughing when I take off my pants.
 
2013-04-22 07:23:59 AM
Jezebel's goal is to be more damaging that the 25 magazine titles devoted to farking up women which are clustered around most every check-out at most every supermarket.

-- waiting for J to have a weekly Castration Tool give-away contest for their truly devoted
 
2013-04-22 07:24:32 AM
We have an "Unlikely" tag for a reason, people...
 
2013-04-22 07:24:48 AM
I just don`t want home, the place where I try to get away from all the crap in the world, to just be another world of crap.

If that is sexist then women are crazy.
 
2013-04-22 07:25:19 AM
1. Show up naked.
2. Bring beer.
 
2013-04-22 07:25:41 AM
JEZEBEL?  And it was nonsense?  That never happens.
 
2013-04-22 07:26:47 AM
I kept looking for the sarcasm tag.  Gotta be sarcasm, right?  Right???
 
2013-04-22 07:27:02 AM
Certainly, a relationship is a place where you can articulate your needs, and afford your partner the opportunity to twist that which you clearly stated into her own twenty-step multi-hole vision of what she can best offer you.
 
2013-04-22 07:27:13 AM
I heard it's perfectly legal to punch Jezebel authors in the face.
 
2013-04-22 07:27:45 AM
You know what really recharges our batteries?  Not having to listen to women like "Tracy" (TFA) prattle on and on about how good men have it compared to women.

The article it's based on has it exactly right.  Tracy might be happier with the state of her relationships if she could shut up and make sammiches once in a while when her man gets home.

/Just kidding
//Sort of
 
2013-04-22 07:33:11 AM
Um... Where's the real article? It sounds spot on.

/shut up for 5 minutes when I walk in the door please
 
2013-04-22 07:34:18 AM
Ok... so in reality, this idiot has written a counter piece to a story that apparently claims men's needs are simple, that all they want is a warm fleshy teddy bear that they can f- whenever and doesn't complain when they f- other fleshy teddy bears when he feels like. And I believe she is trying to say men are more complicated than that... but then decides to inject her own thought on what men want, which is even dumber than the article she is pissed about...

Sounds like this "journalist" doesn't like a male telling her what she should think about what men want... or some shiat...

Here's some advice Tracy Moore > How's about you stop caring what "all men want" and worry about what YOU want... Which by her 20 steps, is apparently a Eunuch...
 
2013-04-22 07:35:06 AM
There's no possible chance I would read that.
 
2013-04-22 07:36:05 AM

doglover: Jezebel is my favorite comedy site. They're good.


A little dry for me.

I don't have much empathy for either view, Dr. Adam "it is certainly possible that I'm simply projecting what I personally want in a relationship and backing it up with psychological data " Sheck's or J's.  His is simplistic, one-sided and worthy of an eye-roll - her's is, well, she didn't stop at the eye-roll but managed to not actually say much of anything constructive.
 
2013-04-22 07:36:48 AM
So the man in this scenario works, and the woman doesn't. Feminists for traditional gender roles. Weird.
 
2013-04-22 07:37:09 AM

darkjezter: Dafuq did I just read?


Just nod your head, say "Yes, Honey" and "Uh-huh" at appropriate times while just mostly tuning it out, because life is too short to listen to that shiat all the time, and life is too short to say "life is to short to listen to that shiat all the time".  So just act like you care that some random person didn't say exactly the right at the right time to your wife, constituting a World-shattering snub of *EPIC* proportions that is the worst thing *EVAR*, until of course the next minor thing that straight men would totally ignore happens and supersedes it in importance.
 
2013-04-22 07:39:03 AM
That was farking painful.
 
2013-04-22 07:42:29 AM
I'm going to take it that this website will give any woman who has contempt for a penis to have their own web space dedicated to airing their penis contempt...
 
2013-04-22 07:42:33 AM
I no longer have it in me to read Jezebel articles. I- I just... can't.
 
2013-04-22 07:42:56 AM
I get the feeling she was orbiting around a point, (or orbiting around a cluster of points in one of those mind-bending n-body trajectory problems that has to be solved numerically,) but never actually getting around to mentioning what that point was. The article that she's critiquing sounds like it may have had some flaws: It's a generalization of one man's desires to all men, it's vague on specifics, and it describes "a man's" ideal support structure in terms of what a woman can do for him, the natural give-and-take of a relationship notwithstanding.

If done better, this might have been a good platform to discuss how every relationship is different and so is what the members want out of said relationship. It might have been a place to discuss mutual needs and how to place one person's needs equally to the other's, or to prioritize when one person really needs it. It might have been a legitimate forum from which to criticize the original author's view of gender roles, or to question whether or not he cares about the person providing his "safe place to recharge."

Instead, the only conclusion I heard was that if a man feels like a wound-up predator when he comes home and doesn't want to immediately engage emotionally without winding down first, he's stupid and you should date his brother. That's not really feminist critique, that's just inarticulate.

/ I don't hate feminism, but I do tend to hate internet arguments about it.
// Fark, on the other hand, loves any argument that drives clicks
 
2013-04-22 07:42:56 AM
My brain hurts. What the hell did I just try to read?
 
2013-04-22 07:43:42 AM

dittybopper: darkjezter: Dafuq did I just read?

Just nod your head, say "Yes, Honey" and "Uh-huh" at appropriate times while just mostly tuning it out, because life is too short to listen to that shiat all the time, and life is too short to say "life is to short to listen to that shiat all the time".  So just act like you care that some random person didn't say exactly the right at the right time to your wife, constituting a World-shattering snub of *EPIC* proportions that is the worst thing *EVAR*, until of course the next minor thing that straight men would totally ignore happens and supersedes it in importance.




Words of wisdom right here.
 
2013-04-22 07:44:36 AM
TFA: A man is like an appliance. No. No, let's try that again. See. A man is like a rugged, fierce warrior. Or, maybe. Hmmm. A man is still like a child.

This tells you everything you need to know about how she really views men and how she expects her readers to view them: useful objects, objects of derision, children.
 
2013-04-22 07:47:37 AM
Oh, Lezzyhell. What would life be without you?

/no seriously, I'd like to find out.
 
2013-04-22 07:47:47 AM

dittybopper: darkjezter: Dafuq did I just read?

Just nod your head, say "Yes, Honey" and "Uh-huh" at appropriate times while just mostly tuning it out, because life is too short to listen to that shiat all the time, and life is too short to say "life is to short to listen to that shiat all the time".  So just act like you care that some random person didn't say exactly the right at the right time to your wife, constituting a World-shattering snub of *EPIC* proportions that is the worst thing *EVAR*, until of course the next minor thing that straight men would totally ignore happens and supersedes it in importance.


Don't forget to follow up with  "Told you that biatch was crazy" when she starts going off about how that some female competition at her work is "trying to DESTROY" her...
 
2013-04-22 07:47:57 AM

Martian_Astronomer: // Fark, on the other hand, loves any argument that drives clicks


Speaking of which....*checks watch*....looks like the daily 7:30 train to religious/atheism flamewarville is running a tad behind schedule.
 
2013-04-22 07:48:38 AM
What the I don't even...
 
2013-04-22 07:48:57 AM

untaken_name: Oh, Lezzyhell. What would life be without you?

/no seriously, I'd like to find out.


I was seriously contemplating calling it jizzybelch, but then i thought it might cross some line some where...
 
2013-04-22 07:49:21 AM
Has this subject already been covered in every monthly issue of Cosmopolitan Magazine?
 
2013-04-22 07:49:33 AM
To give her credit, she got a few of them right.

Step 1. STFU
Step 2. Fix him a sammich, and bring beer with it.

Step 3. Find The Predator's cord. If you can't find his cord right away, look for a part of his body that most likely resembles an extension or a cord-like - oh.
Step 4: Take his cord and gently tug on it until it's long enough to plug into the recharger.
Step 5.
(The recharger is your mouth and
Step 6. Kidding! It's your vagina and
Step 7. Fine, it's both.
Step 8. Duh, you have other holes, too, dummy-kins )
Step 5: Profit!


FTFY
 
2013-04-22 07:50:31 AM
In December my wife has a chance to South Africa for 2 weeks. She asked me if I wanted to tag along. I'm leaning towards no.

It's not that I don't love her, or want her around... but holy farking hell, some mother farking peace and quiet?!

I used to think I wanted to feel needed. Im tired of being needed. Being needed wears me the fark out!
 
2013-04-22 07:50:41 AM

CeroX: dittybopper: darkjezter: Dafuq did I just read?

Just nod your head, say "Yes, Honey" and "Uh-huh" at appropriate times while just mostly tuning it out, because life is too short to listen to that shiat all the time, and life is too short to say "life is to short to listen to that shiat all the time".  So just act like you care that some random person didn't say exactly the right at the right time to your wife, constituting a World-shattering snub of *EPIC* proportions that is the worst thing *EVAR*, until of course the next minor thing that straight men would totally ignore happens and supersedes it in importance.

Don't forget to follow up with  "Told you that biatch was crazy" when she starts going off about how that some female competition at her work is "trying to DESTROY" her...


This.  Add in some little jab to the offending person and it smooths everything over really well.  Nothing too harsh though, she might still be sort of friends with the person (which I never got, if shes that much of a conniving biatch, why bother?  I work with people I don't like too, and required workplace civility =! friendship) and the last thing you want is to have her switch to defending/excusing that person's behavior at YOUR expense.
 
2013-04-22 07:51:44 AM

Sid_6.7: teto85: 25.media.tumblr.com

You're reading [...] Sad.

/and that's what you're reading!


Or, as I like to call it, Jezebel.
 
2013-04-22 07:52:28 AM

JonnyG: I heard it's perfectly legal to punch Jezebel authors in the face.


  It's true, but you can only punch them straight in the mouth.
 
2013-04-22 07:52:44 AM
Actually, replace "man" with "introvert" in those quotes, and the guy is spot-on.
 
2013-04-22 07:53:05 AM

INeedAName: In December my wife has a chance to South Africa for 2 weeks. She asked me if I wanted to tag along. I'm leaning towards no.

It's not that I don't love her, or want her around... but holy farking hell, some mother farking peace and quiet?!

I used to think I wanted to feel needed. Im tired of being needed. Being needed wears me the fark out!


You should go.  I get your need for peace and quiet, but South Africa is really, really, really beautiful.  That would be one hell of a trip to miss out on.  Plus, if she is going for something work related, you would still get peace and quiet while she is going through the trip obligations.
 
2013-04-22 07:53:13 AM

CeroX: Don't forget to follow up with  "Told you that biatch was crazy" when she starts going off about how that some female competition at her work is "trying to DESTROY" her...


Now to be fair, women do tend to go off on vendettas against other women. It's a sisterhood but they've all got a shiv hidden away for the ones that cross them.
 
2013-04-22 07:54:36 AM

skinink: Has this subject already been covered in every monthly issue of Cosmopolitan Magazine?


I think there was a quiz to determine if you're man is an appliance, a predator, or a child.
 
2013-04-22 07:54:55 AM

Job Creator: The article it's based on has it exactly right. Tracy might be happier with the state of her relationships if she could shut up and make sammiches once in a while when her man gets home.


That is also what I was thinking. I just don't see how she goes from:

What men want is a place where we can be ourselves, without putting on the facade that the world sometimes demands. We want a place where we don't have to be on our best behavior, where we don't have to walk on egg shells and where we don't have to pretend that we're something we're not.

We want a place where we can be accepted for who we are and for who we are not! What men want is consistency and routine, because that is what relaxes us


to

So you want like, an ultimate Lair of Chill? The old kick-back and put-em-up?

Routine and consistency can also be spending some time with the son(s)/daughter(s)/any combination thereof or spending some time doing yard work or name any number of things. Routine and consistency and a lack of constant pressure doesn't mean the same as "He should play video games/pool/poker all day long." And a place were you do not need to pretend to be someone you are not is not he same as "One that never places any demands on you to do anything, or be anything?"

But unfortunately, you don't include any tips for women on how to be the most low-maintenance Betty on the block.

That's easy. Get a hobby and be able to amuse yourself for a bit so that we have time for our hobbies as well.
 
2013-04-22 07:55:28 AM

T-Servo: skinink: Has this subject already been covered in every monthly issue of Cosmopolitan Magazine?

I think there was a quiz to determine if you're man is an appliance, a predator, or a child.


your
 
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