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(Entertainment Weekly)   Xenu ensures Tom Cruise's Oblivion is the #1 film at the box office, bringing in $38 million and giving Cruise one of his biggest openings ever. Meanwhile, 42 was #2 and everyone has forgotten about Evil Dead   (insidemovies.ew.com) divider line 102
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2013-04-21 11:15:51 PM
Oblivion was a pretty neat film. The right amount of pretty, with a fairly cool soundtrack as well.

/it wasn't mind-blowing, however. But that ginger chick he was banging sure is hot.
 
2013-04-22 12:02:26 AM

MadSkillz: Oblivion was a pretty neat film. The right amount of pretty, with a fairly cool soundtrack as well.

/it wasn't mind-blowing, however. But that ginger chick he was banging sure is hot.


This
 
2013-04-22 12:26:52 AM

MadSkillz: Oblivion was a pretty neat film. The right amount of pretty, with a fairly cool soundtrack as well.


Ehh... I was disappointed. Cool concept, bad execution, I thought. And it seemed like pretty much everyone just phoned it in with their acting. The script was rather ham-fisted and cheezy, and they were really in your face about ramping up the drama (e.g. attack is coming, so cut to a kid to show us that we should be scared and worried for these people, now cue the loud dramatic music; there were so many blatant typical audience manipulators like this). Now, I'm not against ramping up the drama and tension; just the way they did it was really...uninspired. Like it was from instructions printed by the Hollywood generic How-To-Make-A-Movie machine.

The effects, however, were gorgeous, and like I said, I liked the concept. It just needed better writing and direction.

I'm not sorry I saw the movie, nor do I feel I wasted time watching it, unlike some movies (*cough*prometheus*cough*). I'm just disappointed, because it could easily have been much better.
 
2013-04-22 12:37:21 AM
Does Cruise play Martin Septim?

Also, did they manage to sign Patrick Stewart?
 
2013-04-22 12:40:44 AM
"Oblivion" Sci-Fi Tropes 101.

Blade Runner
Wall*E
Moon
Prometheus
Matrix

Portal
Independence Day
2001
Planet of the Apes
Solaris

Black Hole
Flash Gordon
Time Machine
Pi...

but it was visually stunning and worth the ticket price. look and sound A+, story C-.

/Tom Cruise
 
2013-04-22 12:46:48 AM

mamoru: MadSkillz: Oblivion was a pretty neat film. The right amount of pretty, with a fairly cool soundtrack as well.

Ehh... I was disappointed. Cool concept, bad execution, I thought. And it seemed like pretty much everyone just phoned it in with their acting. The script was rather ham-fisted and cheezy, and they were really in your face about ramping up the drama (e.g. attack is coming, so cut to a kid to show us that we should be scared and worried for these people, now cue the loud dramatic music; there were so many blatant typical audience manipulators like this). Now, I'm not against ramping up the drama and tension; just the way they did it was really...uninspired. Like it was from instructions printed by the Hollywood generic How-To-Make-A-Movie machine.

The effects, however, were gorgeous, and like I said, I liked the concept. It just needed better writing and direction.

I'm not sorry I saw the movie, nor do I feel I wasted time watching it, unlike some movies (*cough*prometheus*cough*). I'm just disappointed, because it could easily have been much better.


Cruise can be good or bad. It's bad when he does 'generic action guy #82134892'(i.e. War of the Worlds, any Mission Impossible, etc) but he's at his best as either a bad guy ("Collateral" being one of my favourite movies with Cruise in it) or when it's a completely off-the-wall role ("Magnolia", another favourite movie I need to watch soon).

The other actors, well.. you have Morgan Freeman who brings gravitas to any scene just by talking, the sexy ginger chick who was blank, the sexy russian chick who was blank, and then the guy who plays Jaime Lanister, who plays that 'grizzled guy who is violent because it's his background', which is boring (every sci-fi show has one, i.e. Worf from ST:TNG, or Chewbacca). One reviewer said that Tom Cruise was basically a more intense WALL-E and that's about right I guess.

That being said, good soundtrack, gorgeous visuals, great set design and sound design, and I enjoyed it a lot.
 
2013-04-22 12:50:25 AM

calbert: Tom Cruise and supporting actors B-

 
2013-04-22 12:56:34 AM

MadSkillz: any Mission Impossible, etc)


I thought the first Mission Impossible movie was good. Cruise even did an okay job acting. The rest were increasingly stupid and gadget-obsessed.

Of course, the latter movies lacked Jean Reno, who instantly makes any movie much better.

"Collateral" being one of my favourite movies with Cruise in it

I'll have to check it out.

What did you think of his performance in Tropic Thunder?
 
2013-04-22 01:49:23 AM
As much as I loathe Tom Cruise, I'm looking forward to seeing Oblivion. Mostly because of the M83 soundtrack and also Morgan Freakin Freeman.

42 is a baseball movie with Harrison Ford? They should have put Tom Cruise in the baseball movie; Ford in the cool one.

I probably will never see 42, can't stand baseball.
 
2013-04-22 01:52:12 AM

Mr_Ectomy: I probably will never see 42, can't stand baseball.


I don't know how much it's about the baseball, and how much it's about integration. I'll probably see it once they start selling DVDs of it. Well, once I get to the stores that are already selling DVDs of it.
 
2013-04-22 01:54:34 AM

calbert: "Oblivion" Sci-Fi Tropes 101.

Blade Runner
Wall*E
Moon
Prometheus
Matrix

Portal
Independence Day
2001
Planet of the Apes
Solaris

Black Hole
Flash Gordon
Time Machine
Pi...



I honestly can't tell what you're going for in the groupings.
 
2013-04-22 02:03:52 AM

ib_thinkin: calbert: "Oblivion" Sci-Fi Tropes 101.

Blade Runner
Wall*E
Moon
Prometheus
Matrix

Portal
Independence Day
2001
Planet of the Apes
Solaris

Black Hole
Flash Gordon
Time Machine
Pi...


I honestly can't tell what you're going for in the groupings.


the groupings are just there to split the titles up. Oblivion has elements/plot devices/themes of all of those movies (plus more) in it.

it's "The Cabin in the Woods" of sci-fi movies.

yet I enjoyed it.
 
2013-04-22 02:21:40 AM
You're right about Evil Dead.....I was the only person in the theater.

/Which made it even more creepy.
//Definitely got my money's worth.
 
2013-04-22 02:30:39 AM
My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E, so I was going to wait for the Redbox.  Would those of you who saw it recommend it for the big screen?
 
2013-04-22 02:41:32 AM

The_Sponge: You're right about Evil Dead.....I was the only person in the theater.

/Which made it even more creepy.
//Definitely got my money's worth.


fark yeah.  I thought it was really well done with plenty of gore and in your face horror.
 
2013-04-22 02:42:53 AM

Gig103: My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E, so I was going to wait for the Redbox.  Would those of you who saw it recommend it for the big screen?


like Avatar and Prometheus, I think Oblivion will be enjoyed much better on the big screen. no matter what your home set-up is, the excellence of the sound and visuals will be diminished on your tv and the weakness of the story will be enhanced.
 
2013-04-22 03:59:44 AM
Congratulations to all the guys who enjoyed Tom Cruise's big opening tonight....
 
2013-04-22 04:03:00 AM

SpdrJay: Congratulations to all the guys who enjoyed Tom Cruise's big opening tonight....


what you did there, i sees it
 
2013-04-22 04:05:42 AM
I wouldn't see any Tom Cruise movie unless he paid me lots and lots of money.

Actually, even then I wouldn't see it. I'd sit there and close my eyes all the way through.
 
2013-04-22 04:07:37 AM
Saw Jack Reacher... that was pretty good, Praise Xenu
 
2013-04-22 04:48:17 AM

MadSkillz: Oblivion was a pretty neat film.


I liked it better when it was called Wall E
 
2013-04-22 04:51:41 AM
" everyone has forgotten about Evil Dead  "

From Wiki: Budget, $17 million. Box office, $61,745,000
Business Insider said it cost 5 million to produce.
It had a strong first week, it did ok. I expect a long run for dvd sales and I expect it'll be popular internationally.
 
2013-04-22 06:18:41 AM

Sid_6.7: Does Cruise play Martin Septim?



No... Cruise played a character named Cruise.
 
2013-04-22 06:35:05 AM

Sid_6.7: What did you think of his performance in Tropic Thunder?


One of the funniest things that I've ever seen.  He should do more like that.

Gig103: My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E


Watched the movie last night, and when he got to his cabin in the woods I turned to my wife and said "Wait, so he's Wall-E?"

Oblivion - Nice visuals, the house made me come in my pants, was left underwhelmed by the undeveloped plot.  First and foremost, why make an army of Tom Cruise clones to fight a planet?  If this is how the thing normally took over sentient worlds, why does it have such a crippling lack of understanding for the human psyche?  Why do the drones have such blatant weakpoints that can be exploited with assault weapons?  Shouldn't military tech have been enough to blast them out of the sky like a skeet-shoot?  My wife also noticed a major plothole:  the flight-recorder, which was jettisoned with the sleep-pods, includes content from after it was disconnected from the cockpit.

Evil Dead - Great jumps, awesome opening sequence, kept pissing me off when people was trying to run away by throwing themselves into tight hard-to-exit spaces.  Thought that the nurse should have stuck around for longer.  Lost count of how ma times the teacher got stabbed.  It was a decent movie, but as a fan of the original movies I would have liked it to be better.  Not disappointed though, because it was still more than I originally worried it would be.
 
2013-04-22 06:39:35 AM
Just saw it last night and I liked it. I got a free ticket, but if I had paid full price I would have gotten my monies worth. The ending was  hollywood, but the  story pretty solid and thespecial effect were excellent.

You could do worse.
 
2013-04-22 06:43:04 AM
Saw Evil Dead and was one of 4 in theater.   I remembered Evil Dead as a lot more campy and was disappointed they turned it into torture porn.
 
2013-04-22 06:44:23 AM

Kurmudgeon: " everyone has forgotten about Evil Dead  "

From Wiki: Budget, $17 million. Box office, $61,745,000
Business Insider said it cost 5 million to produce.
It had a strong first week, it did ok. I expect a long run for dvd sales and I expect it'll be popular internationally.


I'll buy it on BR when it comes out. Fun movie.
 
2013-04-22 06:45:15 AM

Kurmudgeon: " everyone has forgotten about Evil Dead  "

From Wiki: Budget, $17 million. Box office, $61,745,000
Business Insider said it cost 5 million to produce.
It had a strong first week, it did ok. I expect a long run for dvd sales and I expect it'll be popular internationally.



I don't get what subby means by "everyone has forgotten about Evil Dead." It came out 3 weeks ago, which is about the typical box office run for a horror movie, and it seems to have made a respectable amount of money already, well over the budget.

Was subby really expecting a hard-R rated splatter flick to be pulling in Iron Man money or something?
 
2013-04-22 07:05:44 AM
Don't blame me for your poor taste!
 
2013-04-22 07:29:23 AM
Oblivion was solid, but one of the most derivative films ever. Moon + Independence Day.
 
2013-04-22 07:30:43 AM
I liked it. Sure it was derivative but what isn't? At least it wasn't a sequel, prequel or comic book movie. I actually heard it was a comic book first but you know what I mean, not DC or Marvel superheroes. As for Evil Dead not being campy enough, the first one was pretty striaght. It didn't start getting goofy until the second one and then just went batshiat insane by the third.
 
2013-04-22 07:31:22 AM

LordXenu: Don't blame me for your poor taste!


You have a great deal to answer for, buddy.
 
2013-04-22 07:36:57 AM
BTW, Xenu is the bad guy in the mythology. Why would he help Tom Cruise with his career? That would be like Satan pulling Jesus off the cross.
 
2013-04-22 07:44:20 AM
I loved Oblivion, in great part due to it being very aware of the great scifi movies (and books - it used the book version of 2001!) and, for hollywood, being very hard sf version of the Berserker solution of the Fermi paradox.

That said, it was mostly what Battlefield Earth wanted to be.
 
2013-04-22 08:02:38 AM
Saw it at an IMAX yesterday...worth the money for the focus on effects and sound.

I think Oblivion should be supported for its use of real landscapes with CGI done on top instead of the green screen reverse we seem to have gotten so addicted to as of late.

I wonder if Iceland's tourism industry is taking advantage of the advertising they are getting in Game of Thrones and Oblivion.  I went there two years ago and wished I had more time to hang out in the post apocalyptic/mystic looking backcountry...it really is beautiful.
 
2013-04-22 08:17:08 AM
It's funny how many people zeroed in on how good the visuals and soundtrack were, and how not good the rest of it was.

I lost count on how many scenes seemed lifted from Star Wars movies.
 
2013-04-22 08:18:26 AM
I thought it was fantastic. I'm not sure why anyone had problems with the story, it's a lot better than most recent sci-fi movies. I'd give this a 4.5/5. Way better than Prometheus imo.
 
2013-04-22 08:18:38 AM

MadSkillz: mamoru: MadSkillz: Oblivion was a pretty neat film. The right amount of pretty, with a fairly cool soundtrack as well.

Ehh... I was disappointed. Cool concept, bad execution, I thought. And it seemed like pretty much everyone just phoned it in with their acting. The script was rather ham-fisted and cheezy, and they were really in your face about ramping up the drama (e.g. attack is coming, so cut to a kid to show us that we should be scared and worried for these people, now cue the loud dramatic music; there were so many blatant typical audience manipulators like this). Now, I'm not against ramping up the drama and tension; just the way they did it was really...uninspired. Like it was from instructions printed by the Hollywood generic How-To-Make-A-Movie machine.

The effects, however, were gorgeous, and like I said, I liked the concept. It just needed better writing and direction.

I'm not sorry I saw the movie, nor do I feel I wasted time watching it, unlike some movies (*cough*prometheus*cough*). I'm just disappointed, because it could easily have been much better.

Cruise can be good or bad. It's bad when he does 'generic action guy #82134892'(i.e. War of the Worlds, any Mission Impossible, etc) but he's at his best as either a bad guy ("Collateral" being one of my favourite movies with Cruise in it) or when it's a completely off-the-wall role ("Magnolia", another favourite movie I need to watch soon).

The other actors, well.. you have Morgan Freeman who brings gravitas to any scene just by talking, the sexy ginger chick who was blank, the sexy russian chick who was blank, and then the guy who plays Jaime Lanister, who plays that 'grizzled guy who is violent because it's his background', which is boring (every sci-fi show has one, i.e. Worf from ST:TNG, or Chewbacca). One reviewer said that Tom Cruise was basically a more intense WALL-E and that's about right I guess.

That being said, good soundtrack, gorgeous visuals, great set design and sound design, and I enjoyed it a lot.


Jaime Lannister? I'm not sure how he fits into your group (one being he in a fantasy show)- and two, we have only seen a small part of his story. He's also not grizzled- he was a knight, so he can fight, but he is also cocky...all of which will change now that he has lost his hand.
 
2013-04-22 08:26:51 AM

The DBS: It's funny how many people zeroed in on how good the visuals and soundtrack were, and how not good the rest of it was.

I lost count on how many scenes seemed lifted from Star Wars movies.


Because explosions, zip, bang, boom.

Nobody is seeing Evil Dead anymore, because the audience that rushed to see it the first week were horror and Evil Dead fans. They went home, wrote all their online reviews for their Blogger accounts, and are now waiting for it to show up on Netflix, like those of us who didn't see it in the theater two weeks ago.

/Saw "The Place Beyond the Pines" instead.
//It was okay. It should've been a miniseries, not a movie.
 
2013-04-22 08:33:50 AM
Don't lose any sleep over Evil Dead. Its budget was $17mill and it made  $61mill.
 
2013-04-22 08:34:11 AM
Oblivion doesn't look very interesting.  The previews made it out to be a mash up of films I have seen already.
 
2013-04-22 08:38:33 AM
Sorry, Xenu isn't getting my money. I saw the trailer, meh. The trailer for Jack the giant Killer, and The Lone Ranger looked far more interesting.
 
2013-04-22 08:47:01 AM
The only thing that's keeping me from going to see Oblivion is the fact that Tom Cruise is in it. Otherwise, it looks like it could be cool.
 
2013-04-22 08:50:07 AM

OniExpress: Sid_6.7: What did you think of his performance in Tropic Thunder?

One of the funniest things that I've ever seen.  He should do more like that.

Gig103: My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E

Watched the movie last night, and when he got to his cabin in the woods I turned to my wife and said "Wait, so he's Wall-E?"

Oblivion - Nice visuals, the house made me come in my pants, was left underwhelmed by the undeveloped plot.  First and foremost, why make an army of Tom Cruise clones to fight a planet?  If this is how the thing normally took over sentient worlds, why does it have such a crippling lack of understanding for the human psyche?  Why do the drones have such blatant weakpoints that can be exploited with assault weapons?  Shouldn't military tech have been enough to blast them out of the sky like a skeet-shoot?  My wife also noticed a major plothole:  the flight-recorder, which was jettisoned with the sleep-pods, includes content from after it was disconnected from the cockpit.

Evil Dead - Great jumps, awesome opening sequence, kept pissing me off when people was trying to run away by throwing themselves into tight hard-to-exit spaces.  Thought that the nurse should have stuck around for longer.  Lost count of how ma times the teacher got stabbed.  It was a decent movie, but as a fan of the original movies I would have liked it to be better.  Not disappointed though, because it was still more than I originally worried it would be.


Don't forget about the part where 'Sally' could detect Jack lying, his heart racing, and another life form in the pod, but couldn't detect a nuke right next to them..

Despite that, I really enjoyed the film.  The special effects didn't distract from the movie, which is nice.  I could only see the plot twist coming about 2 mins ahead of time, except for the 'radiation field', I knew he was going to go there. Nice concept and execution..
 
2013-04-22 09:06:22 AM

calbert: "Oblivion" Sci-Fi Tropes 101.
Pi...


I meant to say 'Primer'.
 
2013-04-22 09:09:02 AM

child_god: OniExpress: Sid_6.7: What did you think of his performance in Tropic Thunder?

One of the funniest things that I've ever seen.  He should do more like that.

Gig103: My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E

Watched the movie last night, and when he got to his cabin in the woods I turned to my wife and said "Wait, so he's Wall-E?"

Oblivion - Nice visuals, the house made me come in my pants, was left underwhelmed by the undeveloped plot.  First and foremost, why make an army of Tom Cruise clones to fight a planet?  If this is how the thing normally took over sentient worlds, why does it have such a crippling lack of understanding for the human psyche?  Why do the drones have such blatant weakpoints that can be exploited with assault weapons?  Shouldn't military tech have been enough to blast them out of the sky like a skeet-shoot?  My wife also noticed a major plothole:  the flight-recorder, which was jettisoned with the sleep-pods, includes content from after it was disconnected from the cockpit.

Evil Dead - Great jumps, awesome opening sequence, kept pissing me off when people was trying to run away by throwing themselves into tight hard-to-exit spaces.  Thought that the nurse should have stuck around for longer.  Lost count of how ma times the teacher got stabbed.  It was a decent movie, but as a fan of the original movies I would have liked it to be better.  Not disappointed though, because it was still more than I originally worried it would be.

Don't forget about the part where 'Sally' could detect Jack lying, his heart racing, and another life form in the pod, but couldn't detect a nuke right next to them..

Despite that, I really enjoyed the film.  The special effects didn't distract from the movie, which is nice.  I could only see the plot twist coming about 2 mins ahead of time, except for the 'radiation field', I knew he was going to go there. Nice concept and execution..


One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?
 
2013-04-22 09:11:11 AM
Spoiler alert question:

The one thing I didn't get in the movie was the scene where the Jamie Lanister character shot Tom Cruise point blank . Why didn't he die? Why wasn't he hurt?

/Also wondered why the "alien" didn't detect the bomb.
 
2013-04-22 09:12:07 AM

8 inches: The one thing I didn't get in the movie was the scene where the Jamie Lanister character shot Tom Cruise point blank . Why didn't he die? Why wasn't he hurt?


Yeah that didnt make sense. I thought it was going to be a reveal, like Lannister was shooting him to prove that he was actually a machine or something. Didn't happen.
 
2013-04-22 09:15:20 AM

bborchar: Jaime Lannister? I'm not sure how he fits into your group (one being he in a fantasy show)- and two, we have only seen a small part of his story. He's also not grizzled- he was a knight, so he can fight, but he is also cocky...all of which will change now that he has lost his hand.


Mr Lannister is in Oblivian as Generic Disgruntled Rebel
 
2013-04-22 09:32:57 AM

MadSkillz: But that ginger chick he was banging sure is hot.


What that Ginger Chick might look like...

6.s.dziennik.pl
 
2013-04-22 09:35:17 AM

Gig103: My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E, so I was going to wait for the Redbox.  Would those of you who saw it recommend it for the big screen?


Definitely a big screen movie. I saw it at a matinee yesterday, so the price was right, and it's a good popcorn movie.
It would lose a lot on a home screen.
 
2013-04-22 09:37:21 AM

Brick-House: MadSkillz: But that ginger chick he was banging sure is hot.

What that Ginger Chick might look like...

[6.s.dziennik.pl image 850x447]


img.thesun.co.uk

She should keep the ginger look.
 
2013-04-22 09:38:39 AM

DamnYankees: 8 inches: The one thing I didn't get in the movie was the scene where the Jamie Lanister character shot Tom Cruise point blank . Why didn't he die? Why wasn't he hurt?

Yeah that didnt make sense. I thought it was going to be a reveal, like Lannister was shooting him to prove that he was actually a machine or something. Didn't happen.


I think his suit was supposed to be some sort of body armor - you can see a deformed metal slug lying next to him when he's on the ground in that scene.
 
2013-04-22 09:39:31 AM

8 inches: Spoiler alert question:

The one thing I didn't get in the movie was the scene where the Jamie Lanister character shot Tom Cruise point blank . Why didn't he die? Why wasn't he hurt?

/Also wondered why the "alien" didn't detect the bomb.


It looked like he was wearing body armor.
 
2013-04-22 09:49:29 AM

8 inches: Spoiler alert question:

The one thing I didn't get in the movie was the scene where the Jamie Lanister character shot Tom Cruise point blank . Why didn't he die? Why wasn't he hurt?

/Also wondered why the "alien" didn't detect the bomb.


His suit stopped it. You can see the mangled bullet laying next to him as he's gasping for breath on the ground.
 
2013-04-22 10:01:02 AM

Solon Isonomia: I think his suit was supposed to be some sort of body armor - you can see a deformed metal slug lying next to him when he's on the ground in that scene.


Ya, I get that - but then why did he shoot him at all?
 
2013-04-22 10:06:30 AM
static.prtst.net
 
2013-04-22 10:15:13 AM
It was the pretty and enjoyable 70's era dystopia sci fi flick it set out to be.  Derivative as all hell, but it went solid places with what it absorbed from other sources.
 
2013-04-22 10:16:06 AM

DamnYankees: Solon Isonomia: I think his suit was supposed to be some sort of body armor - you can see a deformed metal slug lying next to him when he's on the ground in that scene.

Ya, I get that - but then why did he shoot him at all?


She was on her period?
 
2013-04-22 10:16:33 AM

Litterbox: The_Sponge: You're right about Evil Dead.....I was the only person in the theater.

/Which made it even more creepy.
//Definitely got my money's worth.

fark yeah.  I thought it was really well done with plenty of gore and in your face horror.


I went with 2 friends, 1 would agree with you, the other and myself not at all. We got exactly what we were expecting, a remake into a modern gore fest, which was greatly disappointing. We were hoping for a good movie that lived up to the legacy, but all we got was splatter fest. Gore isnt horror IMO. The only "scary" thing was the pop ups that make you jump..and after like the 5th one its just annoying. If they were gonna make another dime a dozen splatter flick (which they did) the least they could do was throw in some titty (which they didnt).
 
2013-04-22 10:25:41 AM

MadSkillz: or when it's a completely off-the-wall role ("Magnolia", another favourite movie I need to watch soon).


I don't know that I would say it's one of my all-time favorite moves, but Magnolia effected me emotionally like very few movies ever have. Yeah, I should probably watch it again soon.
 
2013-04-22 10:28:52 AM

DamnYankees: Solon Isonomia: I think his suit was supposed to be some sort of body armor - you can see a deformed metal slug lying next to him when he's on the ground in that scene.

Ya, I get that - but then why did he shoot him at all?


Probably to shut him up and make him stop struggling.
 
2013-04-22 10:29:52 AM
I liked Oblivion well enough but was bothered by 2.5 things:

1.  The trope that a hyper advanced civilization / technocracy needs us for slave labor

2.  The lazy, lazy, LAZY writing trope of killing the head vampire.

"Guys we built up to this epic conflict and have no reasonable way out"

"how about we kill the boss monster and then all the minion monsters die.  That always works!"

.5  It would have been nice to have some resolution of all the other tower people in the 'three years after' (without spoiling it would have nice to see them at the end with the group)
 
2013-04-22 10:31:09 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Brick-House: MadSkillz: But that ginger chick he was banging sure is hot.

What that Ginger Chick might look like...

[6.s.dziennik.pl image 850x447]

[img.thesun.co.uk image 620x845]

She should keep the ginger look.


Is she a red head to begin with? If so why would a red head dye her hair? Or shave it? (well, all of it)
 
2013-04-22 10:31:37 AM

BafflerMeal: .5  It would have been nice to have some resolution of all the other tower people in the 'three years after' (without spoiling it would have nice to see them at the end with the group)


Yeah that was obviously a giant matzah ball left hanging out there.
 
2013-04-22 10:37:37 AM

Gig103: My takeaway from the trailer is that it's a Life-Action Wall-E, so I was going to wait for the Redbox.  Would those of you who saw it recommend it for the big screen?


I would opt for IMAX.  It is good eye candy, it won't hold up as well on TV.
 
2013-04-22 10:37:54 AM
Oblivion was very good - clearly very influenced by Portal.
Saw Evil Dead and 42 as well.
But Trance was the best movie I saw all weekend.
 
2013-04-22 10:41:39 AM
DamnYankees

DamnYankees: BafflerMeal: .5  It would have been nice to have some resolution of all the other tower people in the 'three years after' (without spoiling it would have nice to see them at the end with the group)

Yeah that was obviously a giant matzah ball left hanging out there.


Tvtropes calls it What happened to the mouse
 
2013-04-22 10:44:26 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed Oblivion. There's been a dearth of watchable sci-fi lately. Then all of a sudden we're flush with seemingly decent original properties, e.g. not remakes/sequels/prequels/reboots/comic book adaptations. Oblivion topped my expectations. Here's hoping this trend continues with After Earth, Elysium and Pacific Rim. Ah hell, who am I kidding, if Pacific Rim is 5 minutes of setup followed by 2 hours of Kaiju v. Robot Rocket-Punchery I'll be happy.
 
2013-04-22 10:47:55 AM

BafflerMeal: I liked Oblivion well enough but was bothered by 2.5 things:

1.  The trope that a hyper advanced civilization / technocracy needs us for slave labor

2.  The lazy, lazy, LAZY writing trope of killing the head vampire.

"Guys we built up to this epic conflict and have no reasonable way out"

"how about we kill the boss monster and then all the minion monsters die.  That always works!"


Texdent covered the 'what happened to the mouse' entry.  I'll toss in Keystone Army.
 
2013-04-22 10:49:47 AM

MithrandirBooga: I thought it was fantastic. I'm not sure why anyone had problems with the story, it's a lot better than most recent sci-fi movies. I'd give this a 4.5/5. Way better than Prometheus imo.


Better than Prometheus?  Maybe.  Oblivion is good 101 level scifi.  Promeheus is much more ambitious.
 
2013-04-22 10:50:42 AM

karmaceutical: MithrandirBooga: I thought it was fantastic. I'm not sure why anyone had problems with the story, it's a lot better than most recent sci-fi movies. I'd give this a 4.5/5. Way better than Prometheus imo.

Better than Prometheus?  Maybe.  Oblivion is good 101 level scifi.  Promeheus is much more ambitious.


Yeah, Prometheus aims much higher but doesn't quite get there. I'm happier that exists than Oblivion exists, though.
 
2013-04-22 10:51:40 AM

Mugato: BTW, Xenu is the bad guy in the mythology. Why would he help Tom Cruise with his career? That would be like Satan pulling Jesus off the cross.


You just wrote my first hollywood movie.

Satan saves Jesus and brings him back from the dead after ungrateful humans torture him for spreading a message of love and peace and universal health care and increased sword control because he knows that the rest of eternity would be boring without having an arch nemesis.

Dust off your satan mask Tim Curry, we got work to do...
 
2013-04-22 10:53:08 AM
and after this weekend it will only make about a million per week and will be deemed a failure in the box office

Xenu - 1
Tom Cruise - still sucks ass (I meant 0)
 
2013-04-22 10:59:57 AM

xalres: I thoroughly enjoyed Oblivion. There's been a dearth of watchable sci-fi lately. Then all of a sudden we're flush with seemingly decent original properties, e.g. not remakes/sequels/prequels/reboots/comic book adaptations. Oblivion topped my expectations. Here's hoping this trend continues with After Earth, Elysium and Pacific Rim. Ah hell, who am I kidding, if Pacific Rim is 5 minutes of setup followed by 2 hours of Kaiju v. Robot Rocket-Punchery I'll be happy.


After Earth is M. Night Shamalamadingdong. Put aside any positive or negative feelings about Will Smith and his brood, this movie will be awful b/c of the director. The trailers go out of their way to downplay Mr. The Happening.
 
2013-04-22 11:03:12 AM

Trocadero: xalres: I thoroughly enjoyed Oblivion. There's been a dearth of watchable sci-fi lately. Then all of a sudden we're flush with seemingly decent original properties, e.g. not remakes/sequels/prequels/reboots/comic book adaptations. Oblivion topped my expectations. Here's hoping this trend continues with After Earth, Elysium and Pacific Rim. Ah hell, who am I kidding, if Pacific Rim is 5 minutes of setup followed by 2 hours of Kaiju v. Robot Rocket-Punchery I'll be happy.

After Earth is M. Night Shamalamadingdong. Put aside any positive or negative feelings about Will Smith and his brood, this movie will be awful b/c of the director. The trailers go out of their way to downplay Mr. The Happening.


Awwwwww FECK! Well, the other two are from Blomkamp and Del Toro, so here's hoping.
 
2013-04-22 11:10:09 AM

texdent: DamnYankeesDamnYankees: BafflerMeal: .5  It would have been nice to have some resolution of all the other tower people in the 'three years after' (without spoiling it would have nice to see them at the end with the group)

Yeah that was obviously a giant matzah ball left hanging out there.

Tvtropes calls it What happened to the mouse


It should be illegal to post a TVtropes link early Monday morning. Now I'll never get anything done.
 
2013-04-22 11:14:24 AM

whosits_112: One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?


Actually, they covered that when they were captured at the crash site.  They took two intact pods with them; presumably the ones for the pilot and copilot.  And wasn't the first pod that he checked at the site empty, before finding ones with people in them?
 
2013-04-22 11:22:16 AM
cajuntomato.com
 
2013-04-22 11:23:18 AM

OniExpress: whosits_112: One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?

Actually, they covered that when they were captured at the crash site.  They took two intact pods with them; presumably the ones for the pilot and copilot.  And wasn't the first pod that he checked at the site empty, before finding ones with people in them?


Well, Hell, I didn't even notice that they took two. Thanks! And, I was sure the first pod he saw had an Asian guy in it, but I could be wrong again.
 
2013-04-22 11:25:49 AM
Did they get George Takei to reprise his role?

starwrecked.com
 
2013-04-22 11:28:42 AM

calbert: ib_thinkin: calbert: "Oblivion" Sci-Fi Tropes 101.

Blade Runner
Wall*E
Moon
Prometheus
Matrix

Portal
Independence Day
2001
Planet of the Apes
Solaris

Black Hole
Flash Gordon
Time Machine
Pi...


I honestly can't tell what you're going for in the groupings.

the groupings are just there to split the titles up. Oblivion has elements/plot devices/themes of all of those movies (plus more) in it.

it's "The Cabin in the Woods" of sci-fi movies.

yet I enjoyed it.


I will add Predator (you'll know the moment), Star Wars Death Star trench scene, Logan's Run, 2001, Terminator and Total Recall.

That said, I enjoyed it for what it was...

Tom Cruise was the most bearable he has been in a starting role since Collateral.

Loved the moon effect and was only disappointed in the CGI once
 
2013-04-22 11:30:36 AM

whosits_112: OniExpress: whosits_112: One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?

Actually, they covered that when they were captured at the crash site.  They took two intact pods with them; presumably the ones for the pilot and copilot.  And wasn't the first pod that he checked at the site empty, before finding ones with people in them?

Well, Hell, I didn't even notice that they took two. Thanks! And, I was sure the first pod he saw had an Asian guy in it, but I could be wrong again.


Wait wha?? Who took two?  The pods with people in it were blowed up.  The one that Julia was in was back at the sky apartment wasn't it?
 
2013-04-22 11:33:27 AM
My brother went and saw it with my nephew....said the movie stunk, almost 3 hours of re-hashed sci-fi movie clips.
 
2013-04-22 11:37:53 AM
I'd really like to see 42, but their use of modern music tells me they don't really get it.
 
2013-04-22 11:41:19 AM

AdrienVeidt: I'd really like to see 42, but their use of modern music tells me they don't really get it.


Pretty sure they get "it".

"It" is always make money for any Hollywood movie. They'll make more money with Jay-Z then music from the era.
 
2013-04-22 12:03:57 PM
Me and the gf are gonna see Oblivion one night this week I think, although mostly because the theater around the corner from my house (literally, I live next to it) just reopened with snazzy new setups after a 6-month IMAX install. We haven't been to the theater in a while and a low-story, high-popcorn-visuals flick seems like the perfect cure.

More excited for Iron Man 3, that's the first IMAX movie they're gonna have.

I'm intruigued by that Matt Damon movie with the District 9 director though, looks like it could be District 9 In Space. Saw a trailer for that the other day outta nowhere. With that, IM3, Man of Steel, there's some good dork fodder to be excited about this summer.
 
2013-04-22 12:05:43 PM
And Star Trek 2, forgot about that.
 
2013-04-22 12:09:07 PM

karmaceutical: whosits_112: OniExpress: whosits_112: One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?

Actually, they covered that when they were captured at the crash site.  They took two intact pods with them; presumably the ones for the pilot and copilot.  And wasn't the first pod that he checked at the site empty, before finding ones with people in them?

Well, Hell, I didn't even notice that they took two. Thanks! And, I was sure the first pod he saw had an Asian guy in it, but I could be wrong again.

Wait wha?? Who took two?  The pods with people in it were blowed up.  The one that Julia was in was back at the sky apartment wasn't it?


I don't know what to tell you.  There were two pods on the back of the wagon.  I was wondering what kind of Chekhov's gun it was for; I was a little underwhelmed by the useage.

That makes me think of something:  how did the alien ship miss something the size of the sleeper-pod section spinning around in orbit for 60 years?  It's made repeatedly obvious that it has no satelite function on the dark side of the planet (aka - it has no other orbital satellites, and isn't using the existing ones), but I would have presumed that the orbital ring would have been pretty well trashed even BEFORE the moon went kablam.
 
2013-04-22 12:22:56 PM
First, since this thread has devolved into massive spoilers for those who haven't seen it, can we get an edit somewhere that says "spoilers incoming".

From the previews, i was afraid the move would fall flat on its face once you got past the intro, with every preview released was about Tom and his Bubble ship. I predicted a few of the tropes, others caught me by surprise until they showed it. Overall, worth seeing in the theater.

I had a problem with the geography. Yes, it's science (geology). Couldn't they decide whether it was dirt or glaciers covering the planet? if they're maintaining drones to protect "those things"....where did all the damn ice come from? Think about just how much material it would take to cover "that one building" to that level.....and then how much water it would take to produce that much down-cutting of the rivers.....over 50 years?

I'm sure glad Bob survived to be found.
 
2013-04-22 12:24:50 PM

karmaceutical: whosits_112: OniExpress: whosits_112: One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?

Actually, they covered that when they were captured at the crash site.  They took two intact pods with them; presumably the ones for the pilot and copilot.  And wasn't the first pod that he checked at the site empty, before finding ones with people in them?

Well, Hell, I didn't even notice that they took two. Thanks! And, I was sure the first pod he saw had an Asian guy in it, but I could be wrong again.

Wait wha?? Who took two?  The pods with people in it were blowed up.  The one that Julia was in was back at the sky apartment wasn't it?


I don't remember two pods ...

But even still, that's not a big a hole as in Avatar when the one female soldier DESERTS THE MISSION and later is still free to spring the protagonist from prison.   I remember being removed from the movie immersion and almost yelling, "Shouldn't she be in jail??"

Back to Oblivion, who called down the sleep pods in the first place? Why send it to Jack's area if they didn't know his wife was onboard (as evident by Morgan Freeman's reaction)?  Just to test his humanity? WTF. How did they know it was up there and not destroyed if the bad guys got here first and all they saw was Jack?

Whatever; sometimes a good movie makes you think about it a bit more than you should.
 
2013-04-22 12:43:27 PM

child_god: karmaceutical: whosits_112: OniExpress: whosits_112: One plot hole that I noticed was: where did the second sleep pod come from? Weren't they all destroyed except the one occupied by Hot Russian Chick?

Actually, they covered that when they were captured at the crash site.  They took two intact pods with them; presumably the ones for the pilot and copilot.  And wasn't the first pod that he checked at the site empty, before finding ones with people in them?

Well, Hell, I didn't even notice that they took two. Thanks! And, I was sure the first pod he saw had an Asian guy in it, but I could be wrong again.

Wait wha?? Who took two?  The pods with people in it were blowed up.  The one that Julia was in was back at the sky apartment wasn't it?

I don't remember two pods ...

But even still, that's not a big a hole as in Avatar when the one female soldier DESERTS THE MISSION and later is still free to spring the protagonist from prison.   I remember being removed from the movie immersion and almost yelling, "Shouldn't she be in jail??"

Back to Oblivion, who called down the sleep pods in the first place? Why send it to Jack's area if they didn't know his wife was onboard (as evident by Morgan Freeman's reaction)?  Just to test his humanity? WTF. How did they know it was up there and not destroyed if the bad guys got here first and all they saw was Jack?

Whatever; sometimes a good movie makes you think about it a bit more than you should.


The sent the ping to land the module after they figured out NASA's GPS programming (they said).  They landed it in Jack's area, because they had already observed him showing pre-memory wipe behavior.  They didn't realize Julia was his wife, just an ancillary benefit.
 
2013-04-22 12:49:26 PM
karmaceutical:

The sent the ping to land the module after they figured out NASA's GPS programming (they said).  They landed it in Jack's area, because they had already observed him showing pre-memory wipe behavior.  They didn't realize Julia was his wife, just an ancillary benefit.

No, he remembers who was on the flight to start with. and if it was anything like the moon landing (like meeting the first ET would be broadcast)....it would be on the airwaves too.

I just dont get how the tractor/magnet  pulling them in, doesn't also pull in both parts.
 
2013-04-22 12:50:26 PM

Klaumbaz: karmaceutical:

The sent the ping to land the module after they figured out NASA's GPS programming (they said).  They landed it in Jack's area, because they had already observed him showing pre-memory wipe behavior.  They didn't realize Julia was his wife, just an ancillary benefit.

No, he remembers who was on the flight to start with. and if it was anything like the moon landing (like meeting the first ET would be broadcast)....it would be on the airwaves too.

I just dont get how the tractor/magnet  pulling them in, doesn't also pull in both parts.



/handwave.
 
2013-04-22 01:41:10 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Brick-House: MadSkillz: But that ginger chick he was banging sure is hot.

What that Ginger Chick might look like...

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She should keep the ginger look.


She rocks either hair color but she should definitely keep the dresses that showcase side-boob.
 
2013-04-22 02:07:58 PM
The bird's eye shot of her swimming across the pool suspended in the clouds is magic.  I would spend the rest of my life flying around fixing their drones if I got to come back to that every night.
 
2013-04-22 02:17:31 PM
I'm skipping this one. I'm sick of Hollywood continuing to cram the ungracefully-aging Tom Cruise into movies that should be featuring fresh talent. Can we please put this moldy cheese log out to pasture along with Donald Trump, Madonna, the Smurfs, and all the rest of the 80s most embarrassing relics? Oblivion will do ok in the short term since it's loud, pretty, and has zero competition right now, but think how much bigger it could have been with Avengers alumni like Chris Hemsworth or Chris Evans in the lead. You know, guys with actual on-screen charisma? If I'm supposed to care about the main character in a film, my suspension of disbelief shouldn't have to include the actor's presumed likability.
 
2013-04-22 06:44:51 PM
i refuse to watch tom cruise movies. guy sucks
 
2013-04-22 06:53:20 PM
I read that as "Xena" at first and wondered what Lucy Lawless had to do with the movie.
 
2013-04-22 08:10:08 PM
Xenu is not Scientology's God; it's their Satan.  So many people get that wrong. =)

fusillade762: I read that as "Xena" at first and wondered what Lucy Lawless had to do with the movie.


Me too, me too...
 
2013-04-22 09:42:39 PM
first off YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW OF XEMU UNLESS YOU ARE A 8TH LEVEL SCIENTOLOGIST
 
2013-04-23 02:06:31 AM
It was a good movie.  Having seen "Moon", most of the major plot points were rather predictable though.

But the worst part was the movie took itself too seriously.  Overdramatic music.  No humor at all.  Neither Jack nor Julia showed any emotion or ever yell or scream or anything while they are flying around being shot at and getting banged around.  It should have starred Nathan Fillion with Joss Whedon writing the dialogue or something.

(BTW, semi-spoiler here: movies like this and Moon are a metaphor for the soul's journey, for waking up to how physical reality is an illusion and how to escape the cycle of death and reincarnation.)
 
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