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2013-04-22 12:52:55 AM

Weaver95: ZAZ: He's so full of drugs it doesn't matter whether he got his Miranda warning. State courts would not consider a confession under the circumstances to be voluntary.

I don't think we're gonna care about a confession.  we're just gonna strip him of his rights, torture the f*ck outta him, and then kill him.  he might get a show trial of some sort but he's a dead man walking and i'm sure he knows it.


Heard one of our congresscritters on the radio earlier who said, "He will be found guilty no matter what" in response to the questions about his Miranda rights.  While I have no doubt that statement is likely true, it does give me the chills.
 
2013-04-22 12:53:29 AM

Tatsuma: But to willfully torture and inflict pain as revenge? You might call that justice, I call that barbarism.


Same here. Torture should only be used when there is important information that needs to be extracted from those unwilling to surrender it. Using it for revenge is worse than useless, at least for a democratic society.

/not that a democratic society is exactly the goal of the current US leadership
//a "controllable" society, yes, maybe one that can be made as free as possible while retaining absolute control over any dissent
 
2013-04-22 12:53:56 AM
So Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty. I support the death penalty, and would hope that this fellow is wrung of information then executed.

On the other hand, part of me hopes that he is tried under Massachusetts law and not executed. So the citizens of Massachusetts, and the country, can see what the cost of repealing the death penalty really is. People, if they were brave enough, saw the gruesome carnage in detail. Then the citizens of Massachusetts can watch themselves paying for this guy to get 3 hots and a cot for the rest of his days, after seeing what he did.
 
2013-04-22 12:57:57 AM

ZeroCorpse: My current theory:

The older brother (I'm not going to bother spelling their names) was a boxer at the Olympic level... One that didn't make the Olympics. He also recently began following the teachings of a religious radical.

What if the cause of all of this was brain damage incurred as a boxer?

He got knocked around, something broke in his head, he failed to make the Olympics because of it, and the combination of brain damage and failure at his primary pursuit in life caused him to become open to crazy talk.

What if this event is not an indictment against Chechens, or Islam, or political points of view, but against full-contact sports?

Hmm.


Please do not give the jackass President or Congress any more ideas.......
 
2013-04-22 12:59:17 AM

awalkingecho: cretinbob: You realize the nationality of his doctor has nothing to do with anything, unless you are an overt racist, right?

And openly Jewish; if it wasn't that article there was another where the doctor was at-length questioned as to whether or not faith was affecting, consciously or unconsciously the care he was receiving. It was a point of interest; enough so that a news source actually made an article centered around it, so fark me for sharing it.

Cats and dogs living together.

Welcometofark.jpg


I wasn't singling you out, I was just making an observation.

People need to stop getting hung up on that kind of shiat. Racism is learned and it's hard to break. Self awareness is the key.

Everyone's a bigot
 
2013-04-22 01:01:33 AM
The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
'T is mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown;
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway,
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's,
When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,
Though justice be thy plea, consider this,
That in the course of justice none of us
Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;
And that same prayer doth teach us all to render
The deeds of mercy.

-- "The Merchant of Venice", Act 4 scene 1
 
2013-04-22 01:01:35 AM

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: ZAZ: He's so full of drugs it doesn't matter whether he got his Miranda warning. State courts would not consider a confession under the circumstances to be voluntary.

I don't think we're gonna care about a confession.  we're just gonna strip him of his rights, torture the f*ck outta him, and then kill him.  he might get a show trial of some sort but he's a dead man walking and i'm sure he knows it.

Well I just got a warm and fuzzy, here.

I don't.  I mean if we're going to bother having laws and rights and all that stuff, then they should apply to even idiots like this guy.  Because if we strip him of his rights then we can strip the rights away from ANYONE.  I hope this ends up in criminal court and not a military tribunal.  that would be a very very bad precedent.


I'm delirious with fever and stoned out on cough syrup, and even still I recognize the strength of your arguments.

Honestly, you should write a book.
 
2013-04-22 01:03:59 AM

Tatterdemalian: Tatsuma: But to willfully torture and inflict pain as revenge? You might call that justice, I call that barbarism.

Same here. Torture should only be used when there is important information that needs to be extracted from those unwilling to surrender it. Using it for revenge is worse than useless, at least for a democratic society.

/not that a democratic society is exactly the goal of the current US leadership
//a "controllable" society, yes, maybe one that can be made as free as possible while retaining absolute control over any dissent


Torture should never be used.  It has never and still does not work.  On the other hand, it gives a great deal of ammo to your opponents.
 
2013-04-22 01:05:43 AM

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: ZAZ: He's so full of drugs it doesn't matter whether he got his Miranda warning. State courts would not consider a confession under the circumstances to be voluntary.

I don't think we're gonna care about a confession.  we're just gonna strip him of his rights, torture the f*ck outta him, and then kill him.  he might get a show trial of some sort but he's a dead man walking and i'm sure he knows it.

Well I just got a warm and fuzzy, here.

I don't.  I mean if we're going to bother having laws and rights and all that stuff, then they should apply to even idiots like this guy.  Because if we strip him of his rights then we can strip the rights away from ANYONE.  I hope this ends up in criminal court and not a military tribunal.  that would be a very very bad precedent.


I hate to break it to you, but the precedent was probably established sometime in the mid to late 1770's.
 
2013-04-22 01:07:34 AM

LookForTheArrow: can you really stop someone from killing themselves (without tortuous methods like 24x7 strap down)? Cant you just punch yourself in the throat, or something?

/macabe.. but i thought i'd ask.


Due to your self-preservation instincts, it is extremely hard to kill yourself without mechanical/chemical/etc assistance.

The best you can try is snapping your neck or crushing your skull by carefully positioning yourself for the maximum velocity allowed by your muscles and the cell's available space.

Hitting yourself won't work (you just cannot hit yourself hard enough to kill yourself, regardless of where you hit.). Holding your breath won't work (almost everyone will crack when their brain starts panicking, the rest will start to breath the moment they pass out.).

I suppose you could try biting through to the veins/arteries in your arms. That would be absolutely excruciating, though.
 
2013-04-22 01:16:24 AM

LavenderWolf: I suppose you could try biting through to the veins/arteries in your arms. That would be absolutely excruciating, though


I would put on a Justin Bieber album.  That makes chewing through your arteries almost preferable.
 
2013-04-22 01:19:24 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: LavenderWolf: I suppose you could try biting through to the veins/arteries in your arms. That would be absolutely excruciating, though

I would put on a Justin Bieber album.  That makes chewing through your arteries almost preferable.



Have you actually listened?

You're a braver man that I, ThrobblefootSpectre.
 
2013-04-22 01:21:03 AM
I don't know much about what actually goes on inside a real trial... but how in the hell would one go about finding "fair" jurors for this?? That's got to be a close-to-impossible task. And as others have mentioned, even if it's the right thing to do under the law, I cannot imagine having to be the guy's lawyer. A lawyer for him might as well just be for formalities at this point. I doubt any lawyer would be able to help him out much, nor even actually want to.

At least the evil [insert swear words of choice here] has been caught and can't hurt anyone any more.

No, I would NOT make a fair juror. At least I'm honest.
 
2013-04-22 01:21:40 AM

FitzShivering: Tatterdemalian: Tatsuma: But to willfully torture and inflict pain as revenge? You might call that justice, I call that barbarism.

Same here. Torture should only be used when there is important information that needs to be extracted from those unwilling to surrender it. Using it for revenge is worse than useless, at least for a democratic society.

/not that a democratic society is exactly the goal of the current US leadership
//a "controllable" society, yes, maybe one that can be made as free as possible while retaining absolute control over any dissent

Torture should never be used.  It has never and still does not work.  On the other hand, it gives a great deal of ammo to your opponents.


"Torture has never been a reliable means of extracting information. It is ultimately self-defeating as a means of control, and so one wonders why it is still practiced. The only possible reason must be... pleasure." -- Capt. Picard, "Star Trek: The Next Generation", "Chain of Command: Part II"
 
2013-04-22 01:26:30 AM

wingnut396: rufus-t-firefly: The Stealth Hippopotamus: ZAZ: He's so full of drugs it doesn't matter whether he got his Miranda warning. State courts would not consider a confession under the circumstances to be voluntary.

Get whatever you think you can get out of him and then put him in general lockup before the trial.

Things will take care of themselves.

That whole "equal protection under the law" and "innocent until proven guilty" is just silly talk anyway.

Funny how the biggest "patriots" are the ones who ignore every part of the Constitution other than the 2nd Amendment.

Not only that, but this group also is the loudest to proclaim moral superiority and godliness.

Morals and values only count when you do them when the choice is hard.  It is easy when you have a $1,000 dollars in the bank and a steady income to not steal needed items.  WHen you are dead broke, with hungry kids and no prospects, it because harder to resist that temptation to go against the values and morals you trumpet.

Just like in this case.  I want justice.  I want revenge.  But that is tempered with the fact that I value what I was taught as to what makes us different.  We are not supposed to torture people or punish them without due process.  I understand that terrible nature of what this person seems to have done.  But if don't stick to our values or morals when it is hardest for us to do so, those values and morals have no meaning.

Let the process work.  Treat this guy with the legal deference we all would want should we be accused of a crime. Because if we can do it when it is hardest for us to do so, then we really do set the example and we do become the city on the hill that some have claimed us to be.



We can talk anal rape after all that, right?
 
2013-04-22 01:30:49 AM

wingnut396: Not only that, but this group also is the loudest to proclaim moral superiority and godliness.

Morals and values only count when you do them when the choice is hard.  It is easy when you have a $1,000 dollars in the bank and a steady income to not steal needed items.  WHen you are dead broke, with hungry kids and no prospects, it because harder to resist that temptation to go against the values and morals you trumpet.

Just like in this case.  I want justice.  I want revenge.  But that is tempered with the fact that I value what I was taught as to what makes us different.  We are not supposed to torture people or punish them without due process.  I understand that terrible nature of what this person seems to have done.  But if don't stick to our values or morals when it is hardest for us to do so, those values and morals have no meaning.

Let the process work.  Treat this guy with the legal deference we all would want should we be accused of a crime. Because if we can do it when it is hardest for us to do so, then we really do set the example and we do become the city on the hill that some have claimed us to be.


Truer words have never been spoken.
 
2013-04-22 01:33:46 AM

Tatsuma: ThrobblefootSpectre: Yep. It kinda makes me wonder what planet people are living on when they scream and shout about anyone suggesting a particular plot might be Muslims or foreigners. Apparently they simply aren't aware of reality.

And the saddest thing is that still, the overwhelming (we're talking 99% of Muslims) in  America are appalled by these things. Probably 1% or less would be favorable to these, and even a smaller percentage would be ready to take action. Yet that leaves us with thousand potential terrorists. Which leads us to:

On the other hand, it does give one a good feeling about just how effective the FBI is. They get a bad rap because people only hear about the the few they don't stop, like this one.

thank G-d for that. Not only for all the lives that were saved, but also for the fact that if even 10% of these plots had succeeded, you could bet that life for Muslims in America would actually take a turn for the negative.

Again, I really want to just bury those numbers and pretend they don't exist.


They do exist. Wishing they didnt exist because its 'uncomfortable' is not an option.

This is reality. It is not bigotry. Numbers, facts, studies.

Recent (2009) polls show a disparity of views regarding terrorism, with between 15% and 30% of respondents in most Muslim countries surveyed holding a positive view (see [6] for the complete results) on various related issues. An average of 30% of respondents in Indonesia, Egypt, Pakistan and Morocco held positive views of groups that launch attacks against Americans, while similar numbers held a negative view or a neutral view. With regards specifically to al-Qaeda, in Egypt, 21% of respondents supported their attacks on Americans, while 33% opposed attacks on Americans but supported al-Qaeda's goals and 28% opposed both al-Qaeda's attacks and goals; the remainder held no strong opinion. These numbers were 9%, 19%, and 22% respectively in Indonesia; 16%, 15%, and 22% in Pakistan; and 9%, 31%, and 26% in Morocco. With regards to feelings about the former al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, Muslims tended to show even stronger support. In Egypt, 44% held positive feelings, 25% held mixed feelings, and 17% held negative feelings. These numbers were 14%, 21%, and 26% respectively in Indonesia; 25%, 26%, and 15% for Pakistan; 27%, 26%, and 21% for Morocco; 56%, 22%, and 20% for the Palestinian Territories; 27%, 27%, and 20% for Jordan; 9%, 9%, and 68% for Turkey; and 4%, 6%, and 82% for Azerbaijan. Related to this trend is widespread denial of al-Qaeda's role in such attacks as those of September 11 in the United States. Majorities in Egypt, Indonesia, Pakistan, Morocco, the Palestinian Territories, Turkey, and Jordan did not believe that al-Qaeda was behind the attacks, naming the United States government or Israel as more likely culprits.

As for US Muslims..well, I could guess you could call the numbers 'better'

http://pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf

*8% of all American Muslims approve of suicide bombings. The sentiment is strongest among younger Muslims. Only 68% had a somewhat unfavorable view of al Qaeda. 5% of U.S. Muslims support Al Qaeda specifically
Only 40% of American Muslims believe that Arab men attacked the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.
47% of American Muslims consider themselves Muslim first rather than American (!)

Overall younger American born Muslims are more extreme, not less.
 
2013-04-22 01:34:16 AM
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2013-04-22 01:37:10 AM

incrdbil: Overall younger American born Muslims are more extreme, not less.


And the more we tell them they are useless piece of shiat monsters who will grow up to rape and kill our daughters, guess what.......
 
2013-04-22 01:42:53 AM

Tatterdemalian: //a "controllable" society, yes, maybe one that can be made as free as possible while retaining absolute control over any dissent


If there's one thing Obama has been successful at, it's controlling dissent.
 
2013-04-22 01:43:46 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: calbert: it would be nice if all Americans could receive the level of free health care that this piece of sh*t has received.

The victims of the bombing did. Everyone gets life saving help from the hospital! It's against the law not to!

All you have to do is get though the door and they have to do everything they can to save you.


The emergency room has to treat you, but they are perfectly free to bill you after the treatment takes place.  They can also hire debt collectors and force you into bankruptcy -- or at the least divert a fourth of whatever you earn into their coffers for ever and ever...

Massachusetts does have nearly-universal health care thanks to Romneycare, which gives many of the Boston Marathon victims one less thing to worry about.
 
2013-04-22 01:43:49 AM

FitzShivering:
Torture should never be used.  It has never and still does not work.  On the other hand, it gives a great deal of ammo to your opponents.


Under torture, a person will say anything. Torture will generate answers--but not neccessarily accurate ones.

To get accurate ones, you have to question someone, then fact check their answers, then apply more for false answers. It is hard to set up the conditioning repsonse without the ability to quickly verify answers.

A cold, cost/benefit evauluation of the use of torture, discarding ethics and morality:

Torture is not the most reliable tool; therefore its use should be in line with a recognition of its limitations-and the value of the answers have to be compared against the harm the act of torture inflicts--on those who must issue it, then the pubblic relations harm upon the revelation that torture has been used. this can be mitigated somewhat by disinformation and discrediting the source, but several entities dedicated to human rights will actively seeks to pierce such schemes, leading to a high risk of the exposure of the incidents of torture on released subjects. The quiet, unseen disposal of such subjects may been preferable--butthe potential negative PR if that is discovered is significant as well. So given all of these limitations, torture's value is limited---at best, a desperate tool for the most desperate of situations.
 
2013-04-22 01:46:57 AM

mattharvest: namatad: but the joke would be on the rest of us, if the cops failing to read him his rights led to his freedom ...

Okay, that's just not how that works at all.

Miranda is PURELY about what is admissible at trial, and given that his guilt can be established trivially without any confession (if just for the murder of that cop during his escape if not the bombings) there's no question of him conceivably going free.


For that matter, the evidence is pretty clear that he killed his brother.
 
2013-04-22 01:46:57 AM

BravadoGT: ISO15693: BravadoGT: The simple solution to this is to make the citizenship of naturalized aliens revokable upon arrest for terror-related charges.

for CHARGES?

sure, at least temporarily.  Hey, if they think that's a deal-killer for their moving here, I can respect that.


Well then. I charge you with terrorism. And you cant get due process now, because you aren't a citizen anymore, and don't have any rights like that. You don't need evidence to charge someone, and once you do, they don't have any rights - wow - we can deport anyone we want, at any time!

No, I dont think that is a good idea. I think it should take actual evidence and actual conviction before citizenship is stripped away. Call me crazy.
 
2013-04-22 01:51:33 AM

cretinbob: incrdbil: Overall younger American born Muslims are more extreme, not less.

And the more we tell them they are useless piece of shiat monsters who will grow up to rape and kill our daughters, guess what.......


I see it more as this: older Muslims leave where they are, and know a better situation when they see it, the younger ones grow up, mainly hearing nostalgic stories of 'home' (as most people tend to focus on that) get a nice steady diet of liberal "America is evil opressive racist blah blah blah" indoctrination from their so called 'education' in public school and college--add the internet and get to the extremists sites and there you go.
 
2013-04-22 01:54:08 AM

cretinbob: incrdbil: Overall younger American born Muslims are more extreme, not less.

And the more we tell them they are useless piece of shiat monsters who will grow up to rape and kill our daughters, guess what.......


Well, stop telling them that then.  I never heard anyone else say it.

/christians, otoh, hear that and worse in several fark threads a week
//makes me sad to be a liberal american
 
2013-04-22 01:59:21 AM
This guy isn't going to know much. Hopefully he'll know a little, but the Feds'll get more info from big brother's internet, phone, etc. Little brother will be able to give dates & times, maybe names.

If big brother was the finger, little brother was the fingernail. What the FBI is wondering is "where's the rest of the body?"
 
2013-04-22 02:06:02 AM

saturn badger: HideAndGoFarkYourself: saturn badger: stoli n coke: No. Despite the concern trolling from various sites, the police have not read him his rights because they have not interrogated him yet. All reading his rights will do is make his statements admissible in court. Right now, if they haven't read him his rights, all that means is that anything he says tonight can't be used at trial.

Not actually true.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulle ti n/february2011/legal_digest

Jesus Christ.  Again?!  NOBODY knows at this point if they've read him his rights or not.  They're saying he's responding to questioning right now.  That could mean questions like "are you Dzhokhar Tsarvaev."  "Do you know where you are?"  "Do you know why you're here?"

The Public Safety Exception to Miranda is there to prevent the imminent danger that a person just arrested might have information of.  For instance, if he'd been stopped right after the bomb went off, asking him if there was another bomb and where it was and him answering would fall under the PSE.  It is NOT a prong by which they can ask questions, at all phases of the investigation, and they all fall under that exception.  It is a very narrowly defined principle. It's also not like they say some magic words and the statements are automatically admissible.  A judge still rules whether or not those statements made will be admissible.

If he's been in the hospital for several days, that exception WILL NOT APPLY.  Before he is interviewed, he WILL be read Miranda.

The whole "we're not going to Mirandize him right now" came from ONE official, while the suspect was en-route to the hospital, who didn't know his medical condition, and was speaking in very general terms when asked about whether or not there were others as part of the plot/bombing.  The official was saying that they'd ask him questions about that.  Then when asked about Miranda, he made a statement about the PSE.  Now all these farking idiots o ...


Not likely.  Far too much time has passed for the PSE argument to be successful.  Like I said, the PSE was designed to be used immediately after arrest, when a person has information that, if given, might stop another attack, or save lives.  There has to be an articulable, immediate threat.  That NO additional bombs have gone off in a week signals that there is not really an additional threat.  Any statements he makes, at this point, need to be post miranda.
 
2013-04-22 02:07:28 AM
A lot of confirmation bias in the latter part of this thread.
 
2013-04-22 02:12:46 AM

Cataholic: ZAZ: BrieBelle00

Military court is not plausible based on what we know now. Military court is very unlikely even if we learn he was a member of a foreign-directed terrorist group against which the President is authorized to use military force. He's a United States citizen caught in the United States after committing a crime within the United States.

The real question is state court (life without parole) or federal court (death).

Herbert Hans Haupt was a US citizen who committed a crime within the United States, was caught in the United States and subjected to a Military tribunal.  The Supreme Court ruled unanimously that this was OK and he was subsequently executed.  I'm not saying that the facts and circumstances of this case merit him being eligible for enemy combatant treatment (only the justice department knows for sure), but you cannot summarily state that he would get a criminal trial just because he is a US citizen.


Haupt was a dual citizen, German and American.  He was working as a spy, for the Germans, and was recruited by the Germans to carry out Operations Pastorius, during a time when we were at war with the Germans.  Ex parte Quirin would not apply here, unless we were at war with his country, or he was working for a country we were at war with, and was acting on their behalf.
 
2013-04-22 02:15:19 AM

Lsherm: ZAZ: The real question is state court (life without parole) or federal court (death).

They used a bomb.  That makes it federal.  I suppose they could charge him in both jurisdictions, but I think the feds would take the lead.


Feds get the marathon bombing, all the IEDs thrown from the car, and attempted murder charges for every federal agent in the line of fire.  State gets murder 1 for the MIT cop and attempted murder for everyone else in the neighborhood.  Book it.
 
2013-04-22 02:22:46 AM
"KAYSER SOSE. You'll never catch him."
 
2013-04-22 02:28:59 AM
They should just give him an Etch-A-Sketch.
 
2013-04-22 02:33:15 AM
Oooh, I have some totally unfounded and wild speculation too! Maybe big brother shot little brother and then charged at the police and little br
 
2013-04-22 02:41:30 AM
 
2013-04-22 02:43:53 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Here's something I can't find anywhere else:

When the Tsarnaev brothers needed guns to back up their bombs, of course they had them. And here are the guns the Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev brought:
One M-4 carbine
One .40-caliber handgun
One 9-mm. handgun
Even one BB gun


Bull-shiat.  They had an AR-15. You can't just call something an M4 by putting a collapsible stock on it.  These people piss me off.  They'll do anything to make it sound really scary.
 
2013-04-22 02:48:32 AM

namatad: SlothB77: they don't need a confession, they got enough on him already.  they want to know motive and any other accomplices.

this and only this
but the joke would be on the rest of us, if the cops failing to read him his rights led to his freedom ...
shudder

how hard is it to do things legally, instead of like children?
I think he understands that his only hope at this point is life in prison.
TADA
I will tell you everything in exchange for taking the death penalty off the table.
TADA


note:  not reading him his Miranda rights is not an auto mistrial  even under normal circumstances.  it's using anything he says as evidence that would cause the mistrial.  They have more than enough according to the media ti not have to bother with it.
 
2013-04-22 02:56:52 AM

namatad: SlothB77: they don't need a confession, they got enough on him already.  they want to know motive and any other accomplices.

this and only this
but the joke would be on the rest of us, if the cops failing to read him his rights led to his freedom ...
shudder

how hard is it to do things legally, instead of like children?
I think he understands that his only hope at this point is life in prison.
TADA
I will tell you everything in exchange for taking the death penalty off the table.
TADA


Read up on Miranda and how it works. You sound ignorant.  Not reading him his rights won't lead to his freedom.
 
2013-04-22 03:02:26 AM
Whoa, wait. Here he is leaving the boat under his own power.

www.gannett-cdn.com

Does he look like someone in serious condition, who cannot speak? WTF?
 
2013-04-22 03:09:20 AM

Robert1966: Whoa, wait. Here he is leaving the boat under his own power.

[www.gannett-cdn.com image 540x406]

Does he look like someone in serious condition, who cannot speak? WTF?


Then you have the photograph of them putting an airway into him.  Just because he can walk, or climb out of a boat, doesn't mean he's uninjured.

I responded to a report of an attempted suicide once, where the suspect had shot himself in the head, with a .25 caliber handgun.  He had pieces of his skull and brain falling out onto the floor of his condo, and he STILL managed to walk to the front door and open it for us.  He then sat down and allowed treatment.  He's still alive, but not 100% mentally capable.

There are countless stories of people experiencing 10-15 gunshots and living, even still fighting on.
 
2013-04-22 03:12:37 AM

Robert1966: Does he look like someone in serious condition, who cannot speak? WTF?


Yes we can totally see that his neck was not in fact shot, therefore he can speak and The Man is just lying to us

Good one.
 
2013-04-22 03:17:53 AM

Xyphoid: Pretty disturbing reading how many people want him tortured and/or extrajudicially punished, or just plain wishing suffering upon him.

My opinion, as an American, is I want him afforded every right I'd expect myself as an American.  Those rights and the treatment we espouse to be sacred are a significant portion of what makes our country better than many others.  As well, my country claims to stand against, and has hung people for, torture/"enhanced interrogation"/increasing suffering (even through inaction).  In that regard I also believe any intentional suffering caused upon someone in custody is a crime that should be punished, as is the opinion of the legal system* (*- sadly, your mileage may vary).


Oh practitioner of the art of war, protector of innocent and wicked alike, upholder of the rights of Man, I name you Bearer of the Emperor's Shield.
 
2013-04-22 03:24:13 AM

Weaver95: ZAZ: He's so full of drugs it doesn't matter whether he got his Miranda warning. State courts would not consider a confession under the circumstances to be voluntary.

I don't think we're gonna care about a confession.  we're just gonna strip him of his rights, torture the f*ck outta him, and then kill him.  he might get a show trial of some sort but he's a dead man walking and i'm sure he knows it.


He should be torn into ITTY BITTY PIECES and BURIED ALIIIIIIIIVE!!
 
2013-04-22 03:25:38 AM

Robert1966: Whoa, wait. Here he is leaving the boat under his own power.

[www.gannett-cdn.com image 540x406]

Does he look like someone in serious condition, who cannot speak? WTF?


No, it's clearly a government conspiracy.  Obama's behind the bpmbing.  With help from the reverse vampires.
 
2013-04-22 03:33:31 AM
Tatsuma:  cactus needles coated with butolin toxic would be considered WMDs

also: rusty nails (tetanus)

My back yard is full of those WMD's

Kom och ta mig, brorsan!
 
2013-04-22 03:54:46 AM

itazurakko: Dougie AXP: A bomb is a bomb. Doesn't matter if it's a pipe bomb, a fertilizer based bomb, or a pressure cooker rigged with black powder and nails. It's designed to inflict maximum damage with minimal effort.

He could have placed a claymore or several grenades in a backpack. It's a bomb. end of story.

Yes. It's a bomb.  It is not, however, a "weapon of mass destruction."

I've never denied it was a bomb.
This guy did a mass murder with bombs.  That part is pretty much an airtight case I think, if they've got video, not to mention all the various bits of evidence they've collected at the scene.

Then there's all the killing of a policemen, chucking more bombs out of their car, yeah. Plenty of crimes here. There is no way this guy is ever going free.


jarkesypolitical.com

He'll probably jumpstart a future president's political career in his living room, then go onto a lucrative lecture and teaching career.
 
2013-04-22 04:01:12 AM
www.snopes.com


//from my all time favorite thread
 
2013-04-22 04:02:37 AM
Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures!

Snope, how can I fight for the truth if you don't even let me hotlink?
 
2013-04-22 04:14:34 AM
Did they catch Zooey Deschanel yet?
 
2013-04-22 04:16:05 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: /christians, otoh, hear that and worse in several fark threads a week


No, they don't.
 
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