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2013-04-21 09:07:57 PM  
your blagshow sucks
 
2013-04-21 09:14:10 PM  
Slaughterhouse Five is an amazing book. I'm glad I grew up in a state that never tried to take any of these away from me. Hell, we read most of these when I was still in Catholic school, but then I've always had suspicions that my catholic school was super-liberal, all things considered.
 
2013-04-21 09:17:58 PM  
#9 "Because Orwell was a communist"

Yeah, was.  That's kind of the point.
 
2013-04-21 09:25:50 PM  
Looks like I get o Deslide
 
2013-04-21 09:31:57 PM  
TFA: In 1989, Steinbeck's novel was challenged as a summer youth program reading assignment in Chattanooga, TN because "Steinbeck is known to have had an anti business attitude." Also, "he was very questionable as to his patriotism." Well, his books must be trash, then.

I don't know much about Steinbeck's personal life, but is there any validity to questions of his patriotism?  I've read some of the propaganda pieces he wrote during World War 2 ("The Moon is Down" being a standout), so it's hard for me to imagine that being a legitimate criticism...
 
2013-04-21 09:33:46 PM  
The Catcher in the Rye was pulled from the shelves at my high school for "review". Being a small town in Alabama, this wasn't too surprising but it was funny that the girl whose mother complained was in my Married Life & Childcare class where we watched all manner of sex ed videos that easily could have gotten the teacher fired. If I recall correctly, the school system's review process involved taking the book off the shelf until the angry parent found something else to be outraged about and then the book was quietly put back. Any student wanting to check out the book during that time could get it from a librarian.
 
2013-04-21 09:36:22 PM  
What? No complaints about the language in "Huckleberry Finn"?

I went to Norco High School, one of the those where people complained about "Catcher in the Rye".  I'm surprised there's enough parents there who can read anywhere near that level.
 
2013-04-21 09:39:58 PM  
I don't want my young uns learnin an bein smarter than me!

Didn't read the TFA, but did that make the list?
 
2013-04-21 09:43:22 PM  
Complaining about that "To Kill A Mockingbird" is racist because of the language used? Isn't that like saying that "The Producers" is anti-semitic because of the Nazi imagery used?
 
2013-04-21 09:44:17 PM  
Of Mice And Men, by John Steinbeck:

In 1992, a coalition of community members and clergy in Mobile, AL challenged the book on charges of "profanity" and "morbid and depressing themes."

Did these jokers not read Grapes of Wrath?
 
2013-04-21 09:46:27 PM  

Summoner101: Of Mice And Men, by John Steinbeck:

In 1992, a coalition of community members and clergy in Mobile, AL challenged the book on charges of "profanity" and "morbid and depressing themes."

Did these jokers not read Grapes of Wrath?


Too long for them, obviously.

/side-note: Winter of our Discontent is really good.  More people should read it.  Not the most earth shattering awesome thing ever, more subdued but still.
 
2013-04-21 09:46:57 PM  

Summoner101: "morbid and depressing themes."

Did these jokers not read Grapes of Wrath?


Or Revelation
 
2013-04-21 09:47:30 PM  
I'd ban Catcher merely because it's boring and vastly over-rated.
 
2013-04-21 09:47:42 PM  
Your mobile site sucks.
 
2013-04-21 09:48:44 PM  

RatMaster999: I'd ban Catcher merely because it's boring and vastly over-rated.


It's pretty goddam crumby.
 
2013-04-21 09:57:03 PM  
Because Jesus? It does say ridiculous claims right?
 
2013-04-21 10:01:50 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Looks like I get o Deslide


Or, you could have just clicked on the "view all pages" link right there on the page.
 
2013-04-21 10:04:43 PM  

Baji: Complaining about that "To Kill A Mockingbird" is racist because of the language used? Isn't that like saying that "The Producers" is anti-semitic because of the Nazi imagery used?


Some people are just really, really stupid.
 
2013-04-21 10:09:18 PM  

EngineerAU: The Catcher in the Rye was pulled from the shelves at my high school for "review". Being a small town in Alabama, this wasn't too surprising but it was funny that the girl whose mother complained was in my Married Life & Childcare class where we watched all manner of sex ed videos that easily could have gotten the teacher fired. If I recall correctly, the school system's review process involved taking the book off the shelf until the angry parent found something else to be outraged about and then the book was quietly put back. Any student wanting to check out the book during that time could get it from a librarian.


Yeah, same here (grew up in Southeastern Michigan).  All of these bans aren't for kids, they're for slow adults who can't think.  And we'll always have them since squeezing a child out means we have to childproof the society they'll grow up in 'just in case.'
 
2013-04-21 10:10:27 PM  
Lord Of The Flies and Catcher In The Rye are pretentious and boring, but not worth banning.  Everything else on there should be required reading for high school students.
 
2013-04-21 10:10:43 PM  

TheMatchHare: I don't know much about Steinbeck's personal life, but is there any validity to questions of his patriotism?


This was in a red state. Anticorporate = anti-American.
 
2013-04-21 10:13:29 PM  
In 1996, the book [To Kill A Mockingbird] was banned from the Lindale, TX advanced placement English reading list because it "conflicted with the values of the community." Which values, we wonder?

They probably didn't like the idea of there are things that shouldn't be shot.
 
2013-04-21 10:15:01 PM  

AtlanticCoast63: Lord Of The Flies and Catcher In The Rye are pretentious and boring, but not worth banning.  Everything else on there should be required reading for high school students.


Except those two books are perfect for the 14-year-old mind.  And I bet they are better than Twilight (can't say since I haven't read the latter).

/I loved Catcher in the Rye as a teen, and it led me to read books by better authors.
 
2013-04-21 10:19:06 PM  
Mere verbal complaints weren't enough for Oklahoma City group Mothers United for Decency, who in 1961 hired a trailer, calling it the "smutmobile" and used it to display books they objected to, including Sons and Lovers.

Quick, to the Smutmobile! Smutman away!
 
2013-04-21 10:20:24 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Yeah, same here (grew up in Southeastern Michigan). All of these bans aren't for kids, they're for slow adults who can't think. And we'll always have them since squeezing a child out means we have to childproof the society they'll grow up in 'just in case.'


I was required to read 7/10 on that list (the Hemingway was on a list we could choose from, so I guess technically 6?).  However, my HS health textbook did have the section on contraception removed from the book, so I guess it evened out.

/SE Michigander
 
2013-04-21 10:21:57 PM  
These groups should just come out and admit it. The only book they want their children to read is the farking Bible.
 
2013-04-21 10:26:20 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Mere verbal complaints weren't enough for Oklahoma City group Mothers United for Decency, who in 1961 hired a trailer, calling it the "smutmobile" and used it to display books they objected to, including Sons and Lovers.

Quick, to the Smutmobile! Smutman away!


Smutman is thrusting in the direction of the problem
 
2013-04-21 10:27:43 PM  
Holden Caulfield is a whiny little biatch. For a "sex novel", "A Farewell to Arms" sure bored the crap out of me when I was 14. And I'm surprised that's the Steinbeck they picked - breastfeeding an old man in "Dust, Dust, Dust, Dust and a Turtle" was kind of creepy.
 
2013-04-21 10:28:46 PM  
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2013-04-21 10:30:47 PM  

Old enough to know better: These groups should just come out and admit it. The only book they want their children to read is the farking Bible.


Sex and violence in that too.
 
2013-04-21 10:35:34 PM  
I gotta say that I'm surprised that the Normal IL school district tried to ban Of Mice and Men. That's a mildly progressive college town (Illinois State University).

Oh, and THIS quote shows that the author of the article is kind of a dumbass: (Kind of on the nose for a town called "Normal," eh?)The town of Normal, IIRC, was named after the University. "Normal" was a type of college that was geared to education future teachers. A "normal school" was a teachers' college.

/Looked it up to make sure:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_school
 
2013-04-21 10:36:46 PM  

Craptastic: geared to education EDUCATE future teachers


Fixed.
 
2013-04-21 10:42:39 PM  
I've read all those books. That's why I'm so f*cked up. Save your kids! Ban all the books!
 
2013-04-21 10:44:58 PM  
I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.
 
2013-04-21 10:48:43 PM  

The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.


Probably scared reading it would call up an ancient Sumerian demon that was really drunk on whiskey.
 
2013-04-21 10:48:44 PM  

The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.


That book isn't hard to figure out.  Finnagin's Wake on the other hand, well . . .
 
2013-04-21 10:49:05 PM  

The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.


it was banned. There was a big court case about it.
 
2013-04-21 10:49:32 PM  

The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.


They are unliterate.

Yes, I'm aware unliterate is not a word!
 
2013-04-21 10:55:16 PM  
Noticeably missing is Gerty MacDowell watching fireworks.
 
2013-04-21 10:58:03 PM  
There was a crazy lady trying to get the Harry Potter books banned because they were 'Satanic'. She, of course, had not read the books in question, nor had she seen the movies.
"Then how do you know if they're satanic?" she was asked.
"I just know!" She insisted.

She'd been at it off and on for 2 years. I still don't see how you can devote that much energy to hating something based on absolutly no information.
 
2013-04-21 10:58:22 PM  

The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.


Damnit! That's twice today I was beaten to an Ulysses reference because I had to go to the other room to grab the book.  (I couldn't remember how to spell "MacDowell".)
 
2013-04-21 11:00:31 PM  
When I was in 10th grade, we had one of those reader/literature collection textbooks. Now, I grew up in North Florida Crackerstan, and the reader was at least 15 years old when I got ahold of it in the late 80s. The selection for Greek drama was Lysistrata. And like with all other plays we looked at, we had to read a scene out loud in class, with different students doing different parts. Except me - I was too busy laughing my ass off, while my classmates stared at me, wondering what was so funny. To this day, I am amzed that someone decided that Lysistrata was what you put in a HS literature reader, that my HS bought it, and that nobody complained (plus that a room full of hormonal teenagers were oblivious).

/At the end of class, my teacher walked up to me and said "you got all that didn't you?" I had to nod because laughing in her face would have been rude
 
2013-04-21 11:06:02 PM  
Am I the only person who thinks that NONE of those books were any good?
 
2013-04-21 11:08:38 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: Am I the only person who thinks that NONE of those books were any good?


Probably.
 
2013-04-21 11:09:37 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: Am I the only person who thinks that NONE of those books were any good?


Catcher in the Rye definitely sucked
 
2013-04-21 11:10:38 PM  

nightronin: The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.

That book isn't hard to figure out.  Finnagin's Wake on the other hand, well . . .

Finnegans Wake

isn't that difficult. After all, the entire book takes place in 24 hours. Hell, Fox viewers are able to comprehend that time-frame w/ a hack like Kiefer Sutherland starring. And most of those people aren't aware that his father was the clumsy waiter. That's Armageddon
 
2013-04-21 11:11:28 PM  

Burn_The_Plows: The Downfall: I'm guessing "Ulysses" isn't on the list because the kind of people who like to ban books couldn't figure out what was going on.

Damnit! That's twice today I was beaten to an Ulysses reference because I had to go to the other room to grab the book.  (I couldn't remember how to spell "MacDowell".)


And then a rocket sprang and bang shot blind blank and O! then the Roman candle burst and it was like a sigh of O! and everyone cried O! O! in raptures and it gushed out of it a stream of rain gold hair threads and they shed and ah! they were all greeny dewy stars falling with golden, O so lovely, O, soft, sweet, soft! Then all melted away dewily in the gray air; all was silent. Ah!
 
2013-04-21 11:17:13 PM  

Sim Tree: I still don't see how you can devote that much energy to hating something based on absolutly no information.


Try evangelical/"orthodox" any religion.
 
2013-04-21 11:59:02 PM  

phalamir: When I was in 10th grade, we had one of those reader/literature collection textbooks. Now, I grew up in North Florida Crackerstan, and the reader was at least 15 years old when I got ahold of it in the late 80s. The selection for Greek drama was Lysistrata. And like with all other plays we looked at, we had to read a scene out loud in class, with different students doing different parts. Except me - I was too busy laughing my ass off, while my classmates stared at me, wondering what was so funny. To this day, I am amzed that someone decided that Lysistrata was what you put in a HS literature reader, that my HS bought it, and that nobody complained (plus that a room full of hormonal teenagers were oblivious).

/At the end of class, my teacher walked up to me and said "you got all that didn't you?" I had to nod because laughing in her face would have been rude


My sophomore year of high school we actually PERFORMED Lysistrata. I'm pretty sure that the principal saw a submission for a Greek play and never bothered to actually look at it (1989 so no internet to make the job easier). Once the production went up (with huge paper mache phalli and all) the shart hit the fan big time. All kinds of scandal happening. Somehow Mr. Ortmayer (the English teacher who was also the faculty theatre chair) didn't lose his job but the next two shows we did were The Sound Of Music and Fiddler On The Roof, and we wound up doing Fiddler about 20 times as a community outreach so we pretty much did his community service for him.

It was worth it.

/RIP Dan. Thanks for being the first authority figure in my life to tell me "You can" instead of "You can't".
//Teachers matter
 
2013-04-22 12:03:06 AM  

Sim Tree: There was a crazy lady trying to get the Harry Potter books banned because they were 'Satanic'. She, of course, had not read the books in question, nor had she seen the movies.
"Then how do you know if they're satanic?" she was asked.
"I just know!" She insisted.


Clearly she has some sort of magical powers. She must be a witch.
 
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