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(Sun News Network)   Aunt of Boston bombing suspects says she's being threatened and paraphrases Rage Against the Machine lyrics: The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy"   (sunnewsnetwork.ca) divider line 246
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2013-04-21 02:52:39 PM
now freedom must be FUNDAMINEDAL in johnannseburg and SOUTH CENTRAL
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-21 03:40:54 PM
Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.
 
2013-04-21 04:25:31 PM
The aunt is just so incredibly stupid, and I can't believe she just won't shut up. Then again the father also came out with stupid theories


The only one in that family who sounds sane is the Uncle. LOSERS! LOSERS! You've shamed the family! GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE! You shame all Chechns!
 
2013-04-21 04:26:25 PM
Well then you shouldn't have been such a little attention whore over other people's tragedy, which, BTW, your family members caused. You remember, the ones you were such an AW defending.
 
2013-04-21 04:26:44 PM
Typical Liberal Muslim.
 
2013-04-21 04:26:53 PM
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Tatsuma: The aunt is just so incredibly stupid, and I can't believe she just won't shut up. Then again the father also came out with stupid theories


The only one in that family who sounds sane is the Uncle. LOSERS! LOSERS! You've shamed the family! GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE! You shame all Chechns!


Yeah, the uncle seems incredibly sane and grounded.
 
2013-04-21 04:26:57 PM
And I bet she can quote Vinnie Paz lyrics, just like Tamarlan.

"They want you to believe the lie that the enemy Saudi
The enemy ain't Saudi, the enemy around me "
 
2013-04-21 04:27:55 PM
I as going to feel bad for her but then I RTFA
 
2013-04-21 04:28:43 PM

vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.


Ehhh.  Pick any Infowars article.. Skip reading any of it and proceed straight to the comments sections..

Yeah.. We're still king
 
2013-04-21 04:28:48 PM
"They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.

"But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."



So you came to Canada, the government opened its doors and all its social programs for you, lets you do and say what you want within the confine the laws, and that's how you react?

Well, then: GET THE F*CK OUT INDEED.

Ungrateful biatch. See how Russians treat your Chechen ass and how well their democracy works for you.

In-farking-credible.
 
2013-04-21 04:29:52 PM
She's right you know, and tomorrow Glenn Beck will tell us all about it.
 
2013-04-21 04:30:23 PM
That's one screwed up family, save for the uncle.
Toronto is like the super multicultural town of the world, anyway. I'd think you'd get death threats for not being foreign enough.
 
GBB
2013-04-21 04:30:54 PM
Now is the time to rally around the family.
 
2013-04-21 04:31:44 PM

God-is-a-Taco: That's one screwed up family, save for the uncle.
Toronto is like the super multicultural town of the world, anyway. I'd think you'd get death threats for not being foreign enough.


She believes that America framed her two nephews. She's delusional enough to make up those threats as well.
 
2013-04-21 04:32:19 PM
But what if she's right and we're only blaming them because we're really upset and just need a target to blame?!

We should *snicker* seriously...*sniff...chuckle*...okay, okay...I can't finish it.
 
2013-04-21 04:32:26 PM

GBB: Now is the time to rally around the family.


I'll rally around the uncle and the other sane family members, but this woman and anyone who thinks like her can go fark themselves all the way to Kyrgyzstan
 
2013-04-21 04:33:50 PM
Reading about the unhinged things relatives of these two guy have said, I am being to think crazy was in these guys' DNA.
 
2013-04-21 04:34:08 PM
Is that Rosa Klebb? And what's she doing in Canada? Looking for moose and squirrel?
 
2013-04-21 04:34:41 PM
The entire family comes off as nuttz. period.
 
2013-04-21 04:34:55 PM
Gee, who'd thought her nephews could've grown up to be murdering sociopaths surrounded by such sterling role-models?

/don't send back to Chechniya.  Ship to Antarctica.  Naked.  Let Allah provide for you, biatch.
 
2013-04-21 04:34:58 PM
Bow wow chika bowwow
Go wid it now!
Bow wow chika bowwow
Go wid it now!
 
2013-04-21 04:35:59 PM
 
2013-04-21 04:36:54 PM
It seems that Chechens tend to run a bit on the "hot" side.
 
2013-04-21 04:37:10 PM

GBB: Now is the time to rally around the family.


With a pocket full of shells?
 
2013-04-21 04:38:53 PM

jaytkay: I as going to feel bad for her but then I RTFA


Same here.
 
2013-04-21 04:39:36 PM
Grozny.

Gesundheit.
 
2013-04-21 04:41:57 PM

Close2TheEdge: The mother is a piece of work too.

http://natick.patch.com/articles/arrests-1-600-in-clothes-stolen


Poetic justice:  http://storefrontbacktalk.com/securityfraud/boston-bomber-caught-on-l o rd-taylor-lp-camera/
 
2013-04-21 04:43:15 PM
Hearing the uncle's impromptu press conference made me proud to be a Maryland native.  Too bad the rest of the family isn't as cool.  Not sure if I read it here, but apparently the older brother freaked out some of his family with his political views on his 6-month trip to Russia last year.
 
2013-04-21 04:43:27 PM
You know, in a situation like this, you'd figure the relatives would just say "I have no comment, I have nothing to say" and avoid the press as much as possible.

Not holding press interviews in their apartment building lobby.
 
2013-04-21 04:44:24 PM

God-is-a-Taco: That's one screwed up family, save for the uncle.
Toronto is like the super multicultural town of the world, anyway. I'd think you'd get death threats for not being foreign enough.


Living in the third world part of Soviet Russia will do that to you.

Thing I saw elsewhere that makes sense, is that where they come from the Government and the police are one of the same, and they're not exactly trust worthy.  They were used as political tools, and if someone needed to be "dealt with", well they were charged on whatever they thought up.  Justice was just a sort of bureaucracy to sign the paperwork and cover asses.

So, it's no surprising they're very weary of what officials are telling them.  Think of the "He was such a good boy" you get from momma's in the ghetto, and now put a whole cultural distrust of authority/police on top of it. 

I'm sure they'll calm down when we all see the video of these DB's putting bombs at childrens feet.
 
2013-04-21 04:44:40 PM
Question: how can you claim to know anything about a person that you haven't seen in 5 years?
 
2013-04-21 04:45:28 PM
PS, the uncle is awesome.  I'd have a beer with him.
 
2013-04-21 04:46:09 PM

cc_rider: The mother is a piece of work too.

http://natick.patch.com/articles/arrests-1-600-in-clothes-stolen

Poetic justice: http://storefrontbacktalk.com/securityfraud/boston-bomber-caught-on-l o rd-taylor-lp-camera/


LOL, the only way this would be better is if he was busted by one of those russian-style dashcams.
 
2013-04-21 04:48:55 PM
Aunt's in Canada, Father's in Russia and both put the U.S. down.
Uncle's in the U.S. and knows damn good and well how he should react.
Weather he means it or not is another story. At least he's smart enough not to react the way
the aunt and father did. Because if he did he knows a beat-down is in his future.
 
2013-04-21 04:49:01 PM

Close2TheEdge: The mother is a piece of work too.

http://natick.patch.com/articles/arrests-1-600-in-clothes-stolen


not that shocking. These people are only a half-step up from gypsies.
 
2013-04-21 04:49:19 PM

Brakefornobody: Gee, who'd thought her nephews could've grown up to be murdering sociopaths surrounded by such sterling role-models?

/don't send back to Chechniya.  Ship to Antarctica.  Naked.  Let Allah provide for you, biatch.


Just so I understand you correctly, in order to prove her wrong and clearly demonstrate that Canadians do in fact place a high value on people's Charter Rights, she should be killed for exercising hers?  Do you want to maybe take an opportunity to revise and expand your remarks?
 
2013-04-21 04:50:46 PM
"They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.
"But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."


Go fark yourself, auntie

memedepot.com
 
2013-04-21 04:51:27 PM
Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.
 
2013-04-21 04:54:09 PM
It seems the uncle is the only one who has his head screwed on straight, but keep in mind these people just had the shock of their lives. They're bound to be having wild emotional reactions. It's idiotic to call someone an attention whore for going in front of cameras to complain about being targeted (publicity may get her some help) and desperately casting about for some way for these horrible things to NOT be true about her nephews.

What she's saying is stupid, but to expect her to be acting and thinking rationally at this point is equally stupid, and to attack her for not acting and thinking rationally at this point is stupider still - almost as stupid as sending her threats.
 
2013-04-21 04:54:22 PM

ekdikeo4: Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.


Really? You don't think the immediate family of the bombers may have played some part in their behavior? Huh. Interesting.
 
2013-04-21 04:54:49 PM
""Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country. "

Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.
 
2013-04-21 04:55:02 PM
$10 that Tom Morello comes to her defense.

Like the band, like the style, but hate their politics.
 
2013-04-21 04:56:12 PM

Tatsuma: "They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.

"But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."


So you came to Canada, the government opened its doors and all its social programs for you, lets you do and say what you want within the confine the laws, and that's how you react?

Well, then: GET THE F*CK OUT INDEED.

Ungrateful biatch. See how Russians treat your Chechen ass and how well their democracy works for you.

In-farking-credible.


That's sort of like folks going to a country, the country opening its doors to them, and them starting to demand that women aren't dressing modestly enough or should be sitting at the backs of busses, isn't it?

Just all sorts of crazy, damn.
 
2013-04-21 04:56:22 PM

Godscrack: Bow wow chika bowwow
Go wid it now!
Bow wow chika bowwow
Go wid it now!


*snerk*
 
2013-04-21 04:56:29 PM
""But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."

I hope not. I hope the US holds onto the carcasses for a long loooong time. No hero's burial with 21 gun salute for your nephews. No shrine for future bombers to worship at.
 
2013-04-21 04:57:24 PM

SithLord: $10 that Tom Morello comes to her defense.

Like the band, like the style, but hate their politics.


Zach more likely. He hasn't had anything to do for the past 10 years or so
 
2013-04-21 04:58:06 PM

vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.


There's two types of conspiracy theorist: Russian conspiracy theorist, and everyone else.

Srsly. This Russian girl I talk to on a near-daily basis does a lot of watching YouTube videos about conspiracies. She thinks Mossad did 9/11.
 
2013-04-21 04:59:44 PM

Marine1: vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.

There's two types of conspiracy theorist: Russian conspiracy theorist, and everyone else.

Srsly. This Russian girl I talk to on a near-daily basis does a lot of watching YouTube videos about conspiracies. She thinks Mossad did 9/11.


so does DRO.
 
2013-04-21 05:00:16 PM

Tatsuma: GBB: Now is the time to rally around the family.

I'll rally around the uncle and the other sane family members, but this woman and anyone who thinks like her can go fark themselves all the way to Kyrgyzstan


He means that it's time to rally 'round the family

with a pocket full of shells.
 
2013-04-21 05:02:36 PM

Tatsuma: "They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.

"But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."


So you came to Canada, the government opened its doors and all its social programs for you, lets you do and say what you want within the confine the laws, and that's how you react?

Well, then: GET THE F*CK OUT INDEED.

Ungrateful biatch. See how Russians treat your Chechen ass and how well their democracy works for you.

In-farking-credible.


Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name.  She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.
 
2013-04-21 05:02:55 PM

skullkrusher: DRO


media.tumblr.com

I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.
 
2013-04-21 05:03:10 PM

Marine1: vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.

There's two types of conspiracy theorist: Russian conspiracy theorist, and everyone else.

Srsly. This Russian girl I talk to on a near-daily basis does a lot of watching YouTube videos about conspiracies. She thinks Mossad did 9/11.


As do several Palestinians I know.
 
2013-04-21 05:03:42 PM

Marine1: vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.

There's two types of conspiracy theorist: Russian conspiracy theorist, and everyone else.

Srsly. This Russian girl I talk to on a near-daily basis does a lot of watching YouTube videos about conspiracies. She thinks Mossad did 9/11.


To be fair she comes from Russia, and when it has to do with the Russian government there is a good chance that it is the truth and not a conspiracy theory. The Russian government does some crazy shiat and Russian people don't trust them, which leads to Russian people not trusting any government.
 
2013-04-21 05:08:36 PM

Marine1: skullkrusher: DRO

[media.tumblr.com image 254x300]

I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.


DROxINxTHExWIND. Fark's resident angry black man/9-11 Truther
 
2013-04-21 05:08:41 PM
Fist in the air, in the land of hypocrisy
 
2013-04-21 05:09:37 PM
Just wait til tomorrow when Rush, Beck, and the other right-wing pundits hit the air. The violent derp in this country is going to be off the scale.
 
2013-04-21 05:10:09 PM

soia: Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name. She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.


She has every right to say what she's thinking, that's a protected freedom that I would die fighting for.

That's also my unalienable right to call her ungrateful and to go back the fark all the way to Russia if she thinks that Canada is some oppressive regime without democracy
 
2013-04-21 05:10:20 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ekdikeo4: Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.

Really? You don't think the immediate family of the bombers may have played some part in their behavior? Huh. Interesting.


Hun. Interesting how sure you are the amount of contact and influence their "immediate" family members had. How much has your aunt influenced your life choices?

Unless you have some evidence of the influence of  anyone else on the bombers, you're an ass to make any assumptions at all. Blame the people who planted the bombs. Casting about for other people to blame is  exactly what the aunt is doing.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:06 PM

skullkrusher: Marine1: skullkrusher: DRO

[media.tumblr.com image 254x300]

I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.

DROxINxTHExWIND. Fark's resident angry black man/9-11 Truther


Ah.

I have a policy not to take seriously individuals who throw in "x" in place of the space character in screen names.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:31 PM

Marine1: skullkrusher: DRO



I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.


That's where that comes from!? I hear that drop every day on Adam Carolla.
 
2013-04-21 05:13:07 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ekdikeo4: Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.

Really? You don't think the immediate family of the bombers may have played some part in their behavior? Huh. Interesting.

Hun. Interesting how sure you are the amount of contact and influence their "immediate" family members had. How much has your aunt influenced your life choices?

Unless you have some evidence of the influence of  anyone else on the bombers, you're an ass to make any assumptions at all. Blame the people who planted the bombs. Casting about for other people to blame is  exactly what the aunt is doing.


Fair enough.
 
2013-04-21 05:13:11 PM
theres got to be theres got to be

so when i say GO GO GO
 
2013-04-21 05:15:27 PM

ckevinc: Aunt's in Canada, Father's in Russia and both put the U.S. down.
Uncle's in the U.S. and knows damn good and well how he should react.
Weather he means it or not is another story. At least he's smart enough not to react the way
the aunt and father did. Because if he did he knows a beat-down is in his future.


Or it could be that the kids had been living with the uncle the longest and knew them better than the rest of the family. He even said that he could see the big brother was evil but was shocked by the little one.

The entire family sounds like its full of winners. The parents just up and left back to Russia leaving their kids behind in the US. The eldest went to Russia and wanted to stay. The parents told him to go back and take care of his siblings. What type of parents do that? That's their job not the eldest siblings'
 
2013-04-21 05:16:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Marine1: skullkrusher: DRO

I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.

That's where that comes from!? I hear that drop every day on Adam Carolla.


Yep. Was wondering about that drop myself until I saw that movie again.

/Get it on, brother
 
2013-04-21 05:16:41 PM
I like how she says that she'll only return to Russia with the bodies of the two. I'm sure the one in hospital is saying "farkin thanks aunt"
 
2013-04-21 05:19:36 PM

styckx: vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.

Ehhh.  Pick any Infowars article.. Skip reading any of it and proceed straight to the comments sections..

Yeah.. We're still king


http://rt.com/

Swim in THOSE waters.
 
2013-04-21 05:20:03 PM

soia: Tatsuma: "They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.

"But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."


So you came to Canada, the government opened its doors and all its social programs for you, lets you do and say what you want within the confine the laws, and that's how you react?

Well, then: GET THE F*CK OUT INDEED.

Ungrateful biatch. See how Russians treat your Chechen ass and how well their democracy works for you.

In-farking-credible.

Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name.  She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.



Are you suggesting we should just stand idly by and say nothing when people say over-the-top batshiat insane stuff?   We're not supposed to call them on it?   I feel it is my duty as a fellow human being to tell someone like that about their bone-headedness.  Help make them a better person.  Sort of like constructive criticism with insults.


Oh, and welcome to Fark...yadda yadda,  Check with Drew about guided tours if this is your first day.
 
2013-04-21 05:20:27 PM

Betep: styckx: vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.

Ehhh.  Pick any Infowars article.. Skip reading any of it and proceed straight to the comments sections..

Yeah.. We're still king

http://rt.com/

Swim in THOSE waters.


Eh... RT is decent, but Pravda still holds the conspiracy crown.
 
2013-04-21 05:20:50 PM
CIA backed Chechen terrorists are now claiming that the Boston bombing was the work of the Russian FSB........told you so.

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2013/04/21/17679.shtml
 
2013-04-21 05:21:51 PM

Tatsuma: soia: Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name. She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.

She has every right to say what she's thinking, that's a protected freedom that I would die fighting for.

That's also my unalienable right to call her ungrateful and to go back the fark all the way to Russia if she thinks that Canada is some oppressive regime without democracy


you are absolutely correct, you can call her whatever you wish.  I just think a message is better transmitted when we don't insult others, no matter what we believe.
 
2013-04-21 05:23:57 PM

soia: Tatsuma: soia: Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name. She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.

She has every right to say what she's thinking, that's a protected freedom that I would die fighting for.

That's also my unalienable right to call her ungrateful and to go back the fark all the way to Russia if she thinks that Canada is some oppressive regime without democracy

you are absolutely correct, you can call her whatever you wish.  I just think a message is better transmitted when we don't insult others, no matter what we believe.


what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan
 
2013-04-21 05:24:42 PM

Glitchwerks: You know, in a situation like this, you'd figure the relatives would just say "I have no comment, I have nothing to say" and avoid the press as much as possible.

Not holding press interviews in their apartment building lobby.


Because the press then backs off and gives you space...

Just ignore her.

TyrantII: So, it's no surprising they're very weary of what officials are telling them.  Think of the "He was such a good boy" you get from momma's in the ghetto, and now put a whole cultural distrust of authority/police on top of it.


Exactly.  It won't matter what she thinks, anyway, if they've got video of the brothers planting the bomb, the survivor little brother is going to be tried for mass murder at a minimum.
 
2013-04-21 05:25:03 PM
www.charlock.org
 
2013-04-21 05:26:26 PM
OK, so we're ignoring some family members, but not all.  Got it.
 
2013-04-21 05:27:01 PM

Jesterling: [www.charlock.org image 240x182]


Yeah I get that way when someone puts an apple computer infront of me too.
 
2013-04-21 05:28:19 PM
TORONTO -- The Toronto aunt of the two Boston bombing suspects says she has been the target of threats since saying publicly Friday that her nephews were framed.

"They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.

"But if I go home, I will go home only with bodies of my nephews."


Yes, you're right. The US government made them make bombs, put them in backpacks, and walk into downtown Boston and set them off. You could clearly see the US agents with guns to the poor boys heads making them do this horrible terroristic act. They also "made" them rob a convenient store, kill a policeman, throw bombs and shoot at responding emergency personnel and put on suicide jackets. Its obvious to anyone that they were totally set up. And yes, i wish that you COULD go home with the bodies of both your nephews. Sadly, the police only got to send one to hell so far, but hey, the other is still in serious condition. Not quite dead yet, but here's hoping.
 
2013-04-21 05:28:55 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ekdikeo4: Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.

Really? You don't think the immediate family of the bombers may have played some part in their behavior? Huh. Interesting.


I barely see most of my aunts.  I'm willing to cut this lady a break.  I'd prob say some stupid shiat on camera too if my cousins did something like what happened in Boston.
 
2013-04-21 05:31:38 PM

TV's Vinnie: ""Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country. "

Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.


Who did she blow up?
 
2013-04-21 05:36:42 PM
Between her background and Glenn Beck I'm not surprised she's skeptical, though she doesn't have a leg to stand on. Hopefully Uncle will settle her down and straighten her out.
 
2013-04-21 05:38:12 PM

Tatsuma: soia: Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name. She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.

She has every right to say what she's thinking, that's a protected freedom that I would die fighting for.

That's also my unalienable right to call her ungrateful and to go back the fark all the way to Russia if she thinks that Canada is some oppressive regime without democracy


When exactly did you move to Canada, Tats? How about you let the Canadians handle this retard and limit your self righteousness to the US/Israel.

That said... this woman is obviously nuts. I understand being distrustful and trying to support a family member but she should at least try to do some investigation into the situation before flying off half cocked in public with no evidence. She's probably trying to cash in or some sh*t... she is supposedly a lawyer after all.
 
2013-04-21 05:39:27 PM

here to help: When exactly did you move to Canada, Tats? How about you let the Canadians handle this retard and limit your self righteousness to the US/Israel.


Considering I also have Canadian citizenship, it's my right to speak up on this.
 
2013-04-21 05:40:34 PM

ongbok: Marine1: vpb: Wow.  Our paranoid conspiracy wackos are nothing compared to theirs.

There's two types of conspiracy theorist: Russian conspiracy theorist, and everyone else.

Srsly. This Russian girl I talk to on a near-daily basis does a lot of watching YouTube videos about conspiracies. She thinks Mossad did 9/11.

To be fair she comes from Russia, and when it has to do with the Russian government there is a good chance that it is the truth and not a conspiracy theory. The Russian government does some crazy shiat and Russian people don't trust them, which leads to Russian people not trusting any government.


Good thing the U.S. Government doesn't ever do anything crazy. Everyone should trust them.
 
2013-04-21 05:41:03 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Reading about the unhinged things relatives of these two guy have said, I am being to think crazy was in these guys' DNA.


I think the older brother got a touch of the schizophrenia and that's what made him go to Russia to soak up some high grade nuttiness to try to cope with the voices in his head. I think little bro probably went along out of some twisted hero worship.

Especially if it's true their parents essentially abandoned them in the US while they went back to Russia.

Leaving young men from a crazy family to fend for themselves is usually a bad move.
 
2013-04-21 05:45:47 PM

SithLord: $10 that Tom Morello comes to her defense.

Like the band, like the style, but hate their politics.


Islamic extremism isn't really their politics.
 
2013-04-21 05:47:15 PM

Tatsuma: Considering I also have Canadian citizenship, it's my right to speak up on this.


Jesus... how many countries do you have citizenship in? Do you identify as Canadian?

Anyway, this is the Sun. They're probably the ones who are threatening her in the first place or egged their readers on to do so.

She's still a damned nut but that isn't a crime.
 
2013-04-21 05:50:34 PM
wow muslims playing the victims even when they are the guilty party? color me shocked.
 
2013-04-21 05:51:07 PM

here to help: Jesus... how many countries do you have citizenship in? Do you identify as Canadian?


Citizen of the world Three

I'd identify as Jewish first, American second, Israeli third. Canadian probably a distant fourth. As long as I am a citizen, pay taxes when relevant and loyal to the country, I don't see why that would matter.

here to help: She's still a damned nut but that isn't a crime.


No one said it was right to threaten her to death. We're just saying: if you're not farking happy with what Canada has to offer, get the fark out you farking ungrateful biatch.
 
2013-04-21 05:53:32 PM

SithLord: $10 that Tom Morello comes to her defense.

Like the band, like the style, but hate their politics.


I never understood when people say this about them. How could you like their music and style if you hate their politics? Their music and their style is all about their politics. It's not like their music consist of snappy little love ballads or a topic that has nothing to due with politics, then outside of their music they push their political beliefs.Every single on of their songs pushes their political beliefs.
 
2013-04-21 05:55:04 PM

ekdikeo4: Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.


Never been to toronto have ya?
full of trashy idiotic people.
 
2013-04-21 05:55:36 PM

Tatsuma: No one said it was right to threaten her to death. We're just saying: if you're not farking happy with what Canada has to offer, get the fark out you farking ungrateful biatch.


I may have missed it but what did she say slagging Canada aside from the idiots threatening her?
 
2013-04-21 05:55:44 PM

ongbok: SithLord: $10 that Tom Morello comes to her defense.

Like the band, like the style, but hate their politics.

I never understood when people say this about them. How could you like their music and style if you hate their politics? Their music and their style is all about their politics. It's not like their music consist of snappy little love ballads or a topic that has nothing to due with politics, then outside of their music they push their political beliefs.Every single on of their songs pushes their political beliefs.


I like Propagandhi and I'm the furthest thing from a whiny Canadian socialist
 
2013-04-21 05:56:51 PM

here to help: I may have missed it but what did she say slagging Canada aside from the idiots threatening her?


She said she came to Canada expecting a Democracy and that's not what she found, so she's going back to Russia, which she calls 'home'.
 
2013-04-21 05:57:14 PM

Tatsuma: here to help: Jesus... how many countries do you have citizenship in? Do you identify as Canadian?

Citizen of the world Three

I'd identify as Jewish first, American second, Israeli third. Canadian probably a distant fourth. As long as I am a citizen, pay taxes when relevant and loyal to the country, I don't see why that would matter.

here to help: She's still a damned nut but that isn't a crime.

No one said it was right to threaten her to death. We're just saying: if you're not farking happy with what Canada has to offer, get the fark out you farking ungrateful biatch.


Ah yes, the classic "love it or leave it" fallacy, that's sure to work.
 
2013-04-21 05:57:47 PM
You guys are cute. "Seems the uncle is some righteous dude, yo, who speaks the righteous truth (and calling them losers is easier than considering their minds and just happens to agree with my point of view)"!!.
 
2013-04-21 05:59:17 PM

barefoot in the head: You guys are cute. "Seems the uncle is some righteous dude, yo, who speaks the righteous truth (and calling them losers is easier than considering their minds and just happens to agree with my point of view)"!!.


umm... right? Uncle called them for what they are. Aunt is a loonie who thinks that Democracy has failed her and therefore she's going home. Presumably after killing her younger nephew.
 
2013-04-21 06:02:19 PM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Ah yes, the classic "love it or leave it" fallacy, that's sure to work.


She wasn't born in Canada, she's a Chechen who lived in Russia and left Russia and came to Canada to flee oppression. Then she's biatching that Canada is not a Democracy so she's taking her ball and going back home.

Good farking riddance.

barefoot in the head: You guys are cute. "Seems the uncle is some righteous dude, yo, who speaks the righteous truth (and calling them losers is easier than considering their minds and just happens to agree with my point of view)"!!.


Yeah, he spoke the truth. They are losers who brought shame to their familiy and the Chechen nation, they should have surrendered peacefully and beg forgiveness on their knees from the victims and their family.

Why the fark would we consider the minds of people who smiled while putting bombs full of shrapnel next to children?
 
2013-04-21 06:04:48 PM
"They needed somebody to blame for something they committed themselves so they got them, so rejoice people, rejoice," she said in a weary voice

Projecting blame about projecting blame? Ooh, how meta.
 
2013-04-21 06:05:10 PM

barefoot in the head: You guys are cute. "Seems the uncle is some righteous dude, yo, who speaks the righteous truth (and calling them losers is easier than considering their minds and just happens to agree with my point of view)"!!.


I would not call them "heros."
 
2013-04-21 06:05:28 PM
KILLING IN THE NAME OF
 
2013-04-21 06:05:36 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-21 06:08:14 PM
I'm glad that when my Uncle was arrested, the family already was well aware he was a douche.

\Oh really? That was unexpected.
\\Not surprising, just unexpected.
 
2013-04-21 06:09:09 PM

TyrantII: God-is-a-Taco: That's one screwed up family, save for the uncle.
Toronto is like the super multicultural town of the world, anyway. I'd think you'd get death threats for not being foreign enough.

Living in the third world part of Soviet Russia will do that to you.

Thing I saw elsewhere that makes sense, is that where they come from the Government and the police are one of the same, and they're not exactly trust worthy.  They were used as political tools, and if someone needed to be "dealt with", well they were charged on whatever they thought up.  Justice was just a sort of bureaucracy to sign the paperwork and cover asses.

So, it's no surprising they're very weary of what officials are telling them.  Think of the "He was such a good boy" you get from momma's in the ghetto, and now put a whole cultural distrust of authority/police on top of it. 

I'm sure they'll calm down when we all see the video of these DB's putting bombs at childrens feet.


This. Given their experiences in Russia, their reactions are completely understandable.
 
2013-04-21 06:09:53 PM

ekdikeo4: Regardless of what her nephews did, it's pretty trashy of people to be attacking her for it.

Regardless of how idiotic she is, too.


I tend to feel the same way.

However, the boys didn't end up the way they did in an isolation bubble, either.  The family seems to have played their roles.

You don't beat a dog to death because it pissed on the carpet, you look for the person who never house trained it as a puppy.
 
2013-04-21 06:13:39 PM
soia: Thats not a very nice post there, she just stated her mind and thoughts and you perceived to call her a bad name.  She has every right to say what she wishes even/especially when we don't agree with them.

Eh, this really does seem like one of the few times that the phrase "well, if you don't like it here, why don't you just go live in Russia" seems entirely appropriate.
 
2013-04-21 06:13:55 PM

Tatsuma: The aunt is just so incredibly stupid, and I can't believe she just won't shut up. Then again the father also came out with stupid theories


The only one in that family who sounds sane is the Uncle. LOSERS! LOSERS! You've shamed the family! GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE! You shame all Chechns!


I thought the same thing, until the uncle shouted "Chechens are peaceful people!" Then I thought the FBI should probably raid his house.

This aunt can take her happy ass to Chechnya.
 
2013-04-21 06:15:38 PM

Tatsuma: She wasn't born in Canada, she's a Chechen who lived in Russia and left Russia and came to Canada to flee oppression. Then she's biatching that Canada is not a Democracy so she's taking her ball and going back home.

Good farking riddance.


With that hateful attitude most Canadians... especially old world Jewish Canadians would tell you the same. And seriously...

"They are calling us, calling names, threatening, saying it's time to go home," Maret Tsarnaeva said Saturday. "Yes, it is time. We did not find that promise -- democracy -- in this country.

You see those little dashes? That's most likely the Sun snipping her quote to infuriate it's readers AND it's in response to dumbarses threatening her.

You need to think, dude. These kids were complete f*cking scumbags and the aunt is a nutjob but what you are saying completely undermines the principles of free speech, a fair judicial system and safe haven for the down trodden of the world.

That is exactly what the enemies of western ideals want. I say to you... if you do not like these ideals then perhaps YOU should leave.

Not trying to be a dick... just trying to make you think about your statements. I actually like you when you aren't being all frothy.
Peace.
 
2013-04-21 06:15:40 PM

sheep snorter: [i.imgur.com image 550x873]


Now that the bombing has rather definitively been shown to not have been perpetrated by an Anglo-Saxon, Christian right wing teabagger can we stop talking about ethnicity and religion?
 
2013-04-21 06:15:43 PM
I'm sick of people coming to this country, leeching off all it has to offer, and then bad-mouthing it.

Send her back., Canada's full.
 
2013-04-21 06:17:07 PM
We hold fast to our own thoughts, that's all. It's not unexpected, but you could at least admit it. You are not as close to this event as you pretend. In that regard, you are no different than the relatives.
 
2013-04-21 06:17:35 PM

WhippingBoy: I'm sick of people coming to this country, leeching off all it has to offer, and then bad-mouthing it.

Send her back., Canada's full.


you think that's bad, try living in a real country and see how many people wanna come!
 
2013-04-21 06:17:42 PM

FiendishFellow05: This. Given their experiences in Russia, their reactions are completely understandable.


What killed me was her blurting out the bit about having previously been deported as Nazi collaborators. Lady, I get it. Everybody is being a dick to you, especially the Russians. However, you can't just yada yada yada past that in the English-speaking world. You aren't helping.

Shyla: I thought the same thing, until the uncle shouted "Chechens are peaceful people!" Then I thought the FBI should probably raid his house.


+1. Would LOL again.
 
2013-04-21 06:18:54 PM

barefoot in the head: We hold fast to our own thoughts, that's all. It's not unexpected, but you could at least admit it. You are not as close to this event as you pretend. In that regard, you are no different than the relatives.


what album is that from? Ebil empire??
 
2013-04-21 06:19:06 PM

skullkrusher: WhippingBoy: I'm sick of people coming to this country, leeching off all it has to offer, and then bad-mouthing it.

Send her back., Canada's full.

you think that's bad, try living in a real country and see how many people wanna come!


I can imagine! You poor things!
 
2013-04-21 06:20:46 PM
they found several bombs in the apartment.  the kid's roommate's license plate says "terrorista".

they have the full video of the kid putting the bomb down next to an eight year old boy and detonating it.

there's your evidence.
 
2013-04-21 06:21:33 PM

here to help: With that hateful attitude most Canadians... especially old world Jewish Canadians would tell you the same. And seriously...


I have been told many time by Canadians to 'go back home', meaning Israel. It's also where I decided to go and spend the rest of my life, too.

here to help: You see those little dashes? That's most likely the Sun snipping her quote to infuriate it's readers AND it's in response to dumbarses threatening her.


I'm sorry, but they might have said 'Canada is my home, this is where I live, this is where I work, this is where my family lives and I will not move because of threats'. No, instead she decided to vomit all over the country that sheltered her and protected her from persecution while giving her all democratic rights in literally one of the top 5 places to live in the world.

Again, she can fark off back to Russia, since that's what she wants. Let her love democracy and respect from Russians regarding her Chechn heritage.

here to help: Not trying to be a dick... just trying to make you think about your statements. I actually like you when you aren't being all frothy.
Peace.


I understand where you are coming from, but she's wrong. She vomits on Canada and decries how it's not a Democracy when Canada opened its arms and let  her come and flee oppression in Russia and give her true democracy.

She clearly did not deserve any of that.
 
2013-04-21 06:23:17 PM
she really quoted that rage lyric? this one seems better:  Yaknow they murdered X / Andtried to blame it on Islam /He turned the power to the have-nots / And then came the shot
 
2013-04-21 06:24:47 PM
It's sad, but I understand where she's coming from.  Denial's a BIATCH, y'all.  Went through it when a close family member, the "perfect" one in the family, was arrested.  At the time we could either believe he was innocent, or that the sheriff's office framed him.  We chose to believe he was framed for WAY too long, LONG past the point where any sane person would've said "yeah, he's guilty."

/in our defense, this was Phoenix
//"perfect relative" vs Sheriff Joe's office, who would you believe?
///slashies come in threes
 
2013-04-21 06:25:55 PM

here to help: These kids were complete f*cking scumbags and the aunt is a nutjob but what you are saying completely undermines the principles of free speech, a fair judicial system and safe haven for the down trodden of the world.


For at least 100 years after founding the country, the second amendment was a check and balance to the first. Andrew Jackson fought in so many duels he was riddled with bullets to the point "he rattled like a bag of marbles" while serving in the White House. Even in Mark Twain's day, duels were still common enough the police didn't even get involved when a man sent a challenge to a newspaper editor.

So really, where's a woman to put this aunt in her place? I decree jello wrestling be the fairest method.
 
2013-04-21 06:26:47 PM
to be fair, she does come from russia, where the government does pull really shady shiat all the time.  but she has to understand the USA is nowhere near on the same level as russia.  She is projecting her past experience there.
 
2013-04-21 06:26:47 PM
damn i wish this could be peaceful.
 
2013-04-21 06:31:40 PM
'Rage Against the Machine'?

Rich rock stars preaching against the 'evils' of capitalism and democracy.

It's amazing what you can get kids to buy.
 
2013-04-21 06:32:20 PM

sheep snorter: [i.imgur.com image 550x873]


I see another pattern there. Clearly we should rethink our immigration policies, we should only let women immigrate into the US.
 
2013-04-21 06:32:23 PM

ckevinc: Aunt's in Canada, Father's in Russia and both put the U.S. down.
Uncle's in the U.S. and knows damn good and well how he should react.
Weather he means it or not is another story. At least he's smart enough not to react the way
the aunt and father did. Because if he did he knows a beat-down is in his future.


Land of the free, home of the brave.
 
2013-04-21 06:34:49 PM

ariseatex: It's sad, but I understand where she's coming from.  Denial's a BIATCH, y'all.  Went through it when a close family member, the "perfect" one in the family, was arrested.  At the time we could either believe he was innocent, or that the sheriff's office framed him.  We chose to believe he was framed for WAY too long, LONG past the point where any sane person would've said "yeah, he's guilty."

/in our defense, this was Phoenix
//"perfect relative" vs Sheriff Joe's office, who would you believe?
///slashies come in threes


I'm down with believing a loved one is innocent, and I'm even willing to entertain claims that they were framed. However, this lady stood on the gas pedal, declaring that the evidence was Photoshopped/staged, that the United States government perpetrated the bombing, and that her nephews were kidnapped out of their beds by government agents. The one's phone call asking "forgiveness" was, in her view, just asking forgiveness for not calling home often enough.

This is the good shiat she's snorting, here.
 
2013-04-21 06:34:55 PM
I really miss the days of the six o'clock and ten o'clock news and that's all.  Yes, I'm old.  CNN used to just run the news and was the place to go for some kind of national crisis.  We spend days and days now trotting out every neighbor, roommate, aunt, babysitter, etc. who claim to know something about someone just to fill up 24 hours of TV.  I, for one, am sick of it.  I wouldn't want the media camping out on my doorstep because of something my nephew had done, nor would I be seeking out the media to talk to them about it.

That said, I wonder if the bombers' sisters and the older bomber's wife, kid, and wife's family are being offered any protection.  I haven't seen any of them on the news yet other than the brief statement the wife's family issued.  Hopefully, they will continue to be left alone.
 
2013-04-21 06:35:54 PM

skullkrusher: ongbok: SithLord: $10 that Tom Morello comes to her defense.

Like the band, like the style, but hate their politics.

I never understood when people say this about them. How could you like their music and style if you hate their politics? Their music and their style is all about their politics. It's not like their music consist of snappy little love ballads or a topic that has nothing to due with politics, then outside of their music they push their political beliefs.Every single on of their songs pushes their political beliefs.

I like Propagandhi and I'm the furthest thing from a whiny Canadian socialist


We strive for something more
Than a faded sticker on a skateboard
 
2013-04-21 06:35:56 PM

skullkrusher: Marine1: skullkrusher: DRO

[media.tumblr.com image 254x300]

I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.

DROxINxTHExWIND. Fark's resident angry black man/9-11 Truther


Wait - we let successful and attractive african americans on Fark?

Wat.  The.  Shiat.


/kidding
//troofers are stupid
 
2013-04-21 06:36:17 PM

douchebag/hater: 'Rage Against the Machine'?

Rich rock stars preaching against the 'evils' of capitalism and democracy.

It's amazing what you can get kids to buy.


But... Bulls are on parade. :(
 
2013-04-21 06:38:18 PM

Tatsuma: I'm sorry, but they might have said 'Canada is my home, this is where I live, this is where I work, this is where my family lives and I will not move because of threats'. No, instead she decided to vomit all over the country that sheltered her and protected her from persecution while giving her all democratic rights in literally one of the top 5 places to live in the world.


She's an idiot for sure but you are reading far more into what was printed there and was likely manipulated by the Sun. I would like to see the full quote. And even if she DID say what you are inferring word for word... well that's what we have to put up with in free societies. Look at those Westboro idiots or other hate groups. I f*cking despise any and all kinds of ignorance stupidity and hate but being able to say what's on our minds is the cornerstone of freedom and democracy and those who would try to inhibit these ideals are WAY more dangerous to our way of life than the morons and bigots of the world.

That said... I think this woman is having some kind of mental breakdown, is incredibly stupid or perhaps sympathizes with what these kids did and frankly I hope they take a long hard look at what she and the rest of the family have been up to.

As a side note I'm really horrified not only at what happened in Boston but at the reactions to all this. Left, right, center, whatever... everyone has been obsessed with trying to find ways to justify their own personal biases and beliefs. Instead of rallying together as peace loving people and supporting the victims, condemning the perpetrators and learning from the experience we have turned against each other yet again.

We have failed.

*dies a little inside*
 
2013-04-21 06:39:12 PM

TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.


The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.
 
2013-04-21 06:41:27 PM

Felgraf: That's sort of like folks going to a country, the country opening its doors to them, and them starting to demand that women aren't dressing modestly enough or should be sitting at the backs of busses, isn't it?


If your society really has and values freedom of expression, there should be nothing wrong with taht.  You have all the right to disagree with those who believe that nonsense, but freedom of expression does not, nor it should only apply to those you agree with.

You open your doors to them, you have to accept them as they have to accept you.
 
2013-04-21 06:41:50 PM
Inoffensive speech needs no protection.
 
2013-04-21 06:42:16 PM
I could see being skeptical if all the government had was pictures of them 4 days after the bombing.  My response would be "Oh, so you found two more Muslims after that Saudi kid turned out to innocent?  Profile much?"  However given what occurred on Thursday and Friday, I'd shut the hell up.

At some point your defense of these kids is going to go beyond defending them solely due to family ties and reach a point where people will start wondering if you hold certain extremist views yourself or just happen to be farking crazy.  Either way it seems like a great way to end up with the RCMP wire tapping the shiat out of you for the next 18 months or so.
 
2013-04-21 06:45:27 PM

Tatsuma: That's also my unalienable right to call her ungrateful and to go back the fark all the way to Russia if she thinks that Canada is some oppressive regime without democracy


You would believe that too if you kept being threatened just because the offsprings one of your siblings had ended up going off the deep end, and no one cared or did nothing about that.
 
2013-04-21 06:45:58 PM
It appears the uncle is the only sane family member.

This crazy aunt needs to STFU and keep all of her nutty accusations to herself where she has blamed everyone from the governement to the police to the victims.
 
2013-04-21 06:47:10 PM
She really hasn't said anything worse than Beck, Hannity or Limbaugh does any given week.
 
2013-04-21 06:50:14 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Are you suggesting we should just stand idly by and say nothing when people say over-the-top batshiat insane stuff? We're not supposed to call them on it? I feel it is my duty as a fellow human being to tell someone like that about their bone-headedness. Help make them a better person. Sort of like constructive criticism with insults.


What you don't realize is that you are as ignorant and as clueless about the whole case as this woman is.  You have your preconceived notions, as does she.   You might not agree with her ramblings, but at least she is calling for an investigation to come up with the facts, while your ramblings are based on the idiotic assumption that no such thing is even needed.

So, go on and keep criticizing those who demand due process. I'm sure you sound saner and more mentally balanced than them.
 
2013-04-21 06:51:21 PM

maggoo: TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.

The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.


No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.
 
2013-04-21 06:52:00 PM

skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan


Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?
 
2013-04-21 06:52:47 PM

maggoo: You would believe that too if you kept being threatened just because the offsprings one of your siblings had ended up going off the deep end, and no one cared or did nothing about that.


I've had many people in Canada telling me to 'go home'. That almost never happened in America but it happened a lot in Canada. I was also assaulted for being Jewish, and received plenty of threats and hatred in my life. I never blamed it on Canadian Democracy, or lack of, and always attributed it to idiots and racists and general farkwads.

She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

There is no excuse for her behavior.
 
2013-04-21 06:54:12 PM

maggoo: Ungrateful for demanding due process? Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?


Ungrateful because all of her family applied for asylum and to come live in Canada and America to flee Russian persecution of Chechnya and its inhabitants, and once she arrives her and lives her and takes part in everything we have to offer, she decides to turn around and very publicly trash the country that did all of these things for her and claim that it's not a democracy and she's 'going home'

That's why she's ungrateful.
 
2013-04-21 06:58:04 PM

Tatsuma: I understand where you are coming from, but she's wrong. She vomits on Canada and decries how it's not a Democracy when Canada opened its arms and let her come and flee oppression in Russia and give her true democracy.

She clearly did not deserve any of that.


I'm sure she should think that Canada is a welcoming, law-abiding country while she deals with a bunch of crazies constantly threatening her with all sorts of harm.

Why? Because her long lost nephews who live in another country did something incredibly stupid.

I'm sure that that sort of moronic persecution and harassment is why they moved to Canada.
 
2013-04-21 07:00:21 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan

Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?


haha, yeah, that's what she's interested in...
 
2013-04-21 07:00:22 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan

Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?


She isn't demanding due process. She interprets belief in the evidence of their guilt as, itself, the failure of the system, and is demanding that the system accept her personal, baseless insistence on their innocence as evidence. To her, that the FBI tip line wasn't interested in her "tip" that her nephews could not have done it, and did not take down her contact information in order to discuss her beliefs with her in more detail, is proof that they're in on it.

She's lost her shiat.
 
2013-04-21 07:01:05 PM

TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.

The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.

No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.


That isn't racist at all.
 
2013-04-21 07:01:31 PM

Tatsuma: She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.


What the hell are you talking about? She's criticizing the American government. She thinks THEY are pulling a snowjob.

And I find your claim of being attacked for being jewish in Canada is highly suspicious. Are you saying Canadians are anti-semitic? Because that is ridiculous.
 
2013-04-21 07:03:36 PM

maggoo: TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.

The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.

No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.

That isn't racist at all.


He's totes racist against white people.
 
2013-04-21 07:04:01 PM

Tatsuma: Ungrateful because all of her family applied for asylum and to come live in Canada and America to flee Russian persecution of Chechnya and its inhabitants, and once she arrives her and lives her and takes part in everything we have to offer, she decides to turn around and very publicly trash the country that did all of these things for her and claim that it's not a democracy and she's 'going home'

That's why she's ungrateful.


You suffer from a serious illiteracy problem.  You've failed to grasp the part she claims she is being constantly harassed and threatened because the crap their nephews did, and no one is giving a fark about her rights.  That's the only thing she complains about, and you would too if you were the one getting the very same treatment.
 
2013-04-21 07:04:20 PM

GBB: Now is the time to rally around the family.


I agree. I mean, why stand on a silent platform? Fight the war- fark the norm.
 
2013-04-21 07:04:49 PM
Ah forget it. This entire situation is retarded. Enjoy eating each other alive.

Animals.
 
2013-04-21 07:06:06 PM

here to help: Ah forget it. This entire situation is retarded. Enjoy eating each other alive.

Animals.


24.media.tumblr.com

/ Sorry.
 
2013-04-21 07:06:11 PM

here to help: Tatsuma: She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

What the hell are you talking about? She's criticizing the American government. She thinks THEY are pulling a snowjob.

And I find your claim of being attacked for being jewish in Canada is highly suspicious. Are you saying Canadians are anti-semitic? Because that is ridiculous.


Having read his drivel for years I'd go out on a limb and say they didn't even know he was Jewish- just a loud mouth.
 
2013-04-21 07:06:13 PM

skullkrusher: maggoo: skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan

Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?

haha, yeah, that's what she's interested in...

FTA, which you failed to read:



She is convinced Dzhokhar won't be given a chance to explain his innocence.

"They will make sure they will not let this boy live because they do not want this boy to have a chance, have a voice to say that 'People of America, I did not do this,'" she said.
 
2013-04-21 07:07:21 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: maggoo: skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan

Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?

haha, yeah, that's what she's interested in...
FTA, which you failed to read:

She is convinced Dzhokhar won't be given a chance to explain his innocence.

"They will make sure they will not let this boy live because they do not want this boy to have a chance, have a voice to say that 'People of America, I did not do this,'" she said.


She's convinced he won't get a chance to prove his innocence because she thinks that her innocent nephews were set up as some part of a conspiracy. She's an idiot and so are you
 
2013-04-21 07:07:33 PM

maggoo: TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.

The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.

No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.

That isn't racist at all.


It wasn't. She just doesn't grasp the fact that her nephews have committed the most deadly terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11-01.
 
2013-04-21 07:07:47 PM
If they were innocent why did they run from the police and shoot at them?
She should just shut up already.
 
2013-04-21 07:09:08 PM

maggoo: You suffer from a serious illiteracy problem.  You've failed to grasp the part she claims she is being constantly harassed and threatened because the crap their nephews did, and no one is giving a fark about her rights.  That's the only thing she complains about, and you would too if you were the one getting the very same treatment.


no, i would ask myself why i wasn't a better aunt to stop the creation of those poor little evil terrorist boys.
 
2013-04-21 07:11:21 PM

freewill: maggoo: skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan

Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?

She isn't demanding due process. She interprets belief in the evidence of their guilt as, itself, the failure of the system, and is demanding that the system accept her personal, baseless insistence on their innocence as evidence. To her, that the FBI tip line wasn't interested in her "tip" that her nephews could not have done it, and did not take down her contact information in order to discuss her beliefs with her in more detail, is proof that they're in on it.

She's lost her shiat.


Next time, read the newspiece you are trying to comment on.

She refers specifically to her concerns that her nephew won't be heard about his crimes and that he will die without having a chance to do that.  She might somehow believe they are innocent, but if you actually read her statements all she is asking for is due process.

I don't understand why so many have a problem with this, as hearing what the kid had to say would actually lead her aunt to STFU.
 
2013-04-21 07:12:44 PM

Tatsuma: here to help: I may have missed it but what did she say slagging Canada aside from the idiots threatening her?

She said she came to Canada expecting a Democracy and that's not what she found, so she's going back to Russia, which she calls 'home'.


She is undergoing a barrage of threats from jackasses like yourself because she helped them come to the US. She is grieving and understandably lashing out. She isn't responsible, and the ignorant mob of knuckledraggers looking to make her suffer is much less forgivable. You're distant Canadian ass really suffered through this act of terrorism much more than she did I suppose. She's another victim in this tragedy. Her denial is natural and not a suppot of terrorism. Yours and others willingness to call for heaping scorn on her isn't natural, it's taking joy in a victims misery.
 
2013-04-21 07:13:17 PM

here to help: What the hell are you talking about? She's criticizing the American government. She thinks THEY are pulling a snowjob.


No, she said that she received death threats and was told to 'go back home' and she said that she was going home to Russia because she came to Canada and didn't find a democracy

And I find your claim of being attacked for being jewish in Canada is highly suspicious. Are you saying Canadians are anti-semitic? Because that is ridiculous.

There are plenty of anti-semites in Canada, there are big skinhead communities in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.

maggoo: You've failed to grasp the part she claims she is being constantly harassed and threatened because the crap their nephews did, and no one is giving a fark about her rights. That's the only thing she complains about, and you would too if you were the one getting the very same treatment.


She's only been threatened and received insults ever since she went to as many different newspapers as she could to say that they were being framed and not responsible. Other members of the family are not being harassed in the first place. Her rights are not being trampled either.
 
2013-04-21 07:13:39 PM

skullkrusher: He's totes racist against white people.


Oh yes, because racism is only racism if darkies are involved.
How black are those caucasians from italy, ireland, poland, former yugoslavia, etc...
 
2013-04-21 07:13:57 PM

maggoo: freewill: maggoo: skullkrusher: what message? She is ungrateful and crazy and is most welcome to eat every dick on her way back to Thirdworldistan

Ungrateful for demanding due process?  Are you sure that you aren't actually the uncivilized one?

She isn't demanding due process. She interprets belief in the evidence of their guilt as, itself, the failure of the system, and is demanding that the system accept her personal, baseless insistence on their innocence as evidence. To her, that the FBI tip line wasn't interested in her "tip" that her nephews could not have done it, and did not take down her contact information in order to discuss her beliefs with her in more detail, is proof that they're in on it.

She's lost her shiat.

Next time, read the newspiece you are trying to comment on.

She refers specifically to her concerns that her nephew won't be heard about his crimes and that he will die without having a chance to do that.  She might somehow believe they are innocent, but if you actually read her statements all she is asking for is due process.

I don't understand why so many have a problem with this, as hearing what the kid had to say would actually lead her aunt to STFU.


why would you want her to STFU if she's just asking for due process? are you some sort of savage, concern troll lurker newb?
 
2013-04-21 07:15:07 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: He's totes racist against white people.

Oh yes, because racism is only racism if darkies are involved.
How black are those caucasians from italy, ireland, poland, former yugoslavia, etc...


huh?
 
2013-04-21 07:15:37 PM

maggoo: She refers specifically to her concerns that her nephew won't be heard about his crimes and that he will die without having a chance to do that. She might somehow believe they are innocent, but if you actually read her statements all she is asking for is due process.


And when you want to talk about a subject, you might as well educate yourself on it OR, you know, RTFA where she claims that they were framed by the US government and are 100% innocent.

Greylight: She's another victim in this tragedy.


No she's not. She's a distant relative who came out and said that America was evil and responsible for all this and her poor nephews were innocent as they had just murdered another cop after bombing a rally, and now she's whining because she's getting crap about it and saying 'fark canada, I'm going back to Russia!'
 
2013-04-21 07:17:41 PM

SlothB77: the kid's roommate's license plate says "terrorista".


Thanks for the update from Free Republic.
 
2013-04-21 07:18:52 PM

whatshisname: If they were innocent why did they run from the police and shoot at them?
She should just shut up already.


Actually I'm glad that she and the dad are talking, because it is helping me to understand why these boys might have done what they did. It's clear their family is crazy except for one member (the uncle) and they were probably raised around vitriolic crazy people with persecution complexes, who possibly have some kind of psychiatric issue. The fact that when the dad learned his child was having problems and wanted to come home, was like STFU and get back to America and raise your sibling instead of stepping up and taking care of either of them also suggests his parental skills were lacking across the board. Not that any of this excuses what they did, but at least we know these weren't kids coming from a well adjusted place who suddenly decided to go all jihad by themselves.
 
2013-04-21 07:20:05 PM
TV's Vinnie:

No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.

This right here.  The definition of "democracy" to this type of 3rd Worlder is a government that will deluge them with social services and money while allowing them to breed like rabbits and vocally decry the very same system without getting deported.  It's become something of a problem in Western Europe in the past couple decades...
 
2013-04-21 07:20:23 PM

Tatsuma: maggoo: She refers specifically to her concerns that her nephew won't be heard about his crimes and that he will die without having a chance to do that. She might somehow believe they are innocent, but if you actually read her statements all she is asking for is due process.

And when you want to talk about a subject, you might as well educate yourself on it OR, you know, RTFA where she claims that they were framed by the US government and are 100% innocent.

Greylight: She's another victim in this tragedy.

No she's not. She's a distant relative who came out and said that America was evil and responsible for all this and her poor nephews were innocent as they had just murdered another cop after bombing a rally, and now she's whining because she's getting crap about it and saying 'fark canada, I'm going back to Russia!'


Your racism is showing through loud and clear. I'm embarrassed you have any ties to Canada.
 
2013-04-21 07:22:01 PM

Greylight: Your racism is showing through loud and clear. I'm embarrassed you have any ties to Canada.


Please show me where I said anything racist. I would say the same thing if she was from Sweden or Japan or the Philippines. It has everything to do with what she's saying and not who she is as an individual.

It's pathetic to accuse other of racism completely without any reasons to.
 
2013-04-21 07:22:42 PM

skullkrusher: She's convinced he won't get a chance to prove his innocence because she thinks that her innocent nephews were set up as some part of a conspiracy. She's an idiot and so are you


It's irrelevant what you claim about her beliefs regarding her nephews' innocence.  The only relevant bit, which morons like you want to brush under the cover to try to keep your ramblings from crumbling down, is that she is asking for due process to get to the bottom of this and actually sentence them based on the crimes they committed.

If you weren't a moron you'd be demanding just that, because that would lead to substantiated facts and subsequently punishing those involved.  Instead, not unlike this woman, you keep ranting based on what very little substantiated knowledge you have on the case, and keep ranting about what you don't know as if there was no need for facts.

If you accuse others of being idiots for doing the exact same thing you are doing right now, then what does that make you?  Think about it.
 
2013-04-21 07:24:12 PM

maggoo: It's irrelevant what you claim about her beliefs regarding her nephews' innocence. The only relevant bit, which morons like you want to brush under the cover to try to keep your ramblings from crumbling down, is that she is asking for due process to get to the bottom of this and actually sentence them based on the crimes they committed.


No she said that they are 100% innocent and being framed by the government and it's even written in TFA why are you spewing so much bullshiat all over this thread when you can't be bothered to get educated OR read the thread where this has been pointed out over and over again

Then you call others 'morons' and 'idiots'. Pot, kettle, all that.
 
2013-04-21 07:24:23 PM

TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.

The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.

No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.

That isn't racist at all.

It wasn't. She just doesn't grasp the fact that her nephews have committed the most deadly terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11-01.


Are you off the meds?  You rambled on about McMansions and SUVs.  Don't you even know what you are writing?
 
2013-04-21 07:28:03 PM

utah dude: maggoo: You suffer from a serious illiteracy problem.  You've failed to grasp the part she claims she is being constantly harassed and threatened because the crap their nephews did, and no one is giving a fark about her rights.  That's the only thing she complains about, and you would too if you were the one getting the very same treatment.

no, i would ask myself why i wasn't a better aunt to stop the creation of those poor little evil terrorist boys.


How certain are you that tomorrow some family member or acquaintance of yours doesn't go off the deep end?  Would you ask yourself those very same questions if you were living in an entirely different country and never saw them for years on end?

Your attempt to rationalize that some random distant family member being constantly harassed and receiving death threats is somehow ok and compatible with a society where people have rights is very telling of how good of a person you are.
 
2013-04-21 07:28:06 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: She's convinced he won't get a chance to prove his innocence because she thinks that her innocent nephews were set up as some part of a conspiracy. She's an idiot and so are you

It's irrelevant what you claim about her beliefs regarding her nephews' innocence.  The only relevant bit, which morons like you want to brush under the cover to try to keep your ramblings from crumbling down, is that she is asking for due process to get to the bottom of this and actually sentence them based on the crimes they committed.

If you weren't a moron you'd be demanding just that, because that would lead to substantiated facts and subsequently punishing those involved.  Instead, not unlike this woman, you keep ranting based on what very little substantiated knowledge you have on the case, and keep ranting about what you don't know as if there was no need for facts.

If you accuse others of being idiots for doing the exact same thing you are doing right now, then what does that make you?  Think about it.


he is going to have his day in court. The only people who don't understand that are delusional aunts in Canada and pathetic internet shiatheads who troll on their behalves.
 
2013-04-21 07:28:20 PM

maggoo: Next time, read the newspiece you are trying to comment on.


Perhaps you could read the prior newspieces that provide additional context for her batshiat. She's all over the road.

Regardless, even in the article itself, no. For her, it's a done deal. Her nephews are innocent and "They" framed the nephews. To demand due process is to demand that they be judged fairly. For her, a conviction, no matter how clear the evidence is and how impartial the jury is and how closely the rules are followed, will be an unjust outcome, because the evidence is, itself, the lie. What she wants is for the world to recognize their innocence and reject claims of their guilt. She has seemingly become increasingly adamant about this as the weekend passes, going from "I am hard to convince, show me the evidence" to "the evidence doesn't make any sense to me" to "the evidence was faked and they'll never let my precious baby live to tell the world about it, and people are mad at me so this is not a democracy".

This woman is unwell. Understandably so, even a pretty strong foundation would start crumbling after a hit like this, but still.
 
2013-04-21 07:29:48 PM

skullkrusher: why would you want her to STFU if she's just asking for due process? are you some sort of savage, concern troll lurker newb?


Learn to read.
 
2013-04-21 07:29:56 PM

Tatsuma: Greylight: Your racism is showing through loud and clear. I'm embarrassed you have any ties to Canada.

Please show me where I said anything racist. I would say the same thing if she was from Sweden or Japan or the Philippines. It has everything to do with what she's saying and not who she is as an individual.

It's pathetic to accuse other of racism completely without any reasons to.


My apologies, perhaps you are just xenophobic and enjoy twisting a grieving families words to support your bigoted word view. Scratch that, I'm not apologizing, your bigotry has repeatedly been on display for years on this site.

Consider not mentioning your Canadian ties in the future, thanks.
 
2013-04-21 07:32:58 PM

Tatsuma: There are plenty of anti-semites in Canada, there are big skinhead communities in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.


If by "big" you mean "small" and "disparate" communities then yeah. If you got slapped around by skinheads in any of those cities you were probably looking for them. Don't make it sound like there are roving gangs of them wandering around attacking people.
 
2013-04-21 07:34:38 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: why would you want her to STFU if she's just asking for due process? are you some sort of savage, concern troll lurker newb?

Learn to read.


no u.
Lurk moar. You incredibly bad at contributing
 
2013-04-21 07:37:32 PM

freewill: maggoo: Next time, read the newspiece you are trying to comment on.

Perhaps you could read the prior newspieces that provide additional context for her batshiat. She's all over the road.

Regardless, even in the article itself, no. For her, it's a done deal. Her nephews are innocent and "They" framed the nephews. To demand due process is to demand that they be judged fairly. For her, a conviction, no matter how clear the evidence is and how impartial the jury is and how closely the rules are followed, will be an unjust outcome, because the evidence is, itself, the lie. What she wants is for the world to recognize their innocence and reject claims of their guilt. She has seemingly become increasingly adamant about this as the weekend passes, going from "I am hard to convince, show me the evidence" to "the evidence doesn't make any sense to me" to "the evidence was faked and they'll never let my precious baby live to tell the world about it, and people are mad at me so this is not a democracy".

This woman is unwell. Understandably so, even a pretty strong foundation would start crumbling after a hit like this, but still.


How many times do people believe their precious snowflakes aren't capable of doing the stuff they actually did?  Does that make them mad?  Some parents even believe that it's impossible that their teenage kids ever thought about the opposite sex.  Try to ask them if they believe their kids are capable of conducting terrorist acts.  They will act not unlike this woman.

But in spite of this, she still calls for her nephew to be heard, and he needs to be, at least to get people like this woman to STFU, and the conspiracy theorists as well.
 
2013-04-21 07:37:38 PM

Greylight: My apologies, perhaps you are just xenophobic and enjoy twisting a grieving families words to support your bigoted word view. Scratch that, I'm not apologizing, your bigotry has repeatedly been on display for years on this site.

Consider not mentioning your Canadian ties in the future, thanks.


So you do not have any proofs of anything racist I say, so you switch to calling me a bigot and xenophobic.

So please can you show me what I said in this thread that was in any way bigoted or xenophobic?

Not to mention the irony of you whinging and crying about me saying 'Good riddance' to a women that if she hates Canada and doesn't consider it a Democracy and she's leaving back for Russia' and end your post with you saying that you don't want me associated in any way with Canada.
 
2013-04-21 07:38:43 PM

skullkrusher: maggoo: skullkrusher: why would you want her to STFU if she's just asking for due process? are you some sort of savage, concern troll lurker newb?

Learn to read.

no u.
Lurk moar. You incredibly bad at contributing



Listening to your own echo is not contributing.  It's reverberating ramblings of an ignorant fool.
 
2013-04-21 07:40:17 PM

KidKorporate: This right here. The definition of "democracy" to this type of 3rd Worlder is a government that will deluge them with social services and money


That describes the aunt? Is there some other extensive article about her where you learned this?
 
2013-04-21 07:40:30 PM

skullkrusher: no u.
Lurk moar. You incredibly bad at contributing


Gonna agree with you right here.

here to help: If by "big" you mean "small" and "disparate" communities then yeah. If you got slapped around by skinheads in any of those cities you were probably looking for them. Don't make it sound like there are roving gangs of them wandering around attacking people.


They are not small, they are rather strong and make their presence felt in their neighborhoods.

Thanks for disparaging and mocking minorities in Canada who suffer from racial violence and hatred, and pretend that it doesn't really exist and really, they were even looking for it! though, you're a fantastic person.

'Biatch got raped? Probably went looking for her rapist!'
 
2013-04-21 07:41:30 PM

maggoo: skullkrusher: maggoo: skullkrusher: why would you want her to STFU if she's just asking for due process? are you some sort of savage, concern troll lurker newb?

Learn to read.

no u.
Lurk moar. You incredibly bad at contributing


Listening to your own echo is not contributing.  It's reverberating ramblings of an ignorant fool.


SHE JUST WANTS DUE PROCESS! WHY AREN'T YOU ALL AS SMART AS I AM IN UNDERSTANDING THIS!

Yep, there's an ignorant fool afoot. He's the one that everyone is mocking.
 
2013-04-21 07:41:47 PM

maggoo: Listening to your own echo is not contributing. It's reverberating ramblings of an ignorant fool.


Says the guy who never bothered to RTFA, refused to read or acknowledge the posts where people corrected him when he was wrong repeatedly on the same subject, and insults people on the basis of his ignorance of the facts of this story.
 
2013-04-21 07:41:48 PM

sheep snorter: [i.imgur.com image 550x873]


Loughner sounded like a straight-up atheist, fwiw.

Anyways, carry on.
 
2013-04-21 07:43:36 PM

Tatsuma: Gonna agree with you right here.


maybe he's right and we should all be white knighting for the apologist for a mass murdering farkhead?
 
2013-04-21 07:44:14 PM
Tatsuma: 

Canadian probably a distant fourth.

Ah the good ol' citizenship of convenience... The current Canadian govt doesn't like it much at the moment.
 
2013-04-21 07:44:44 PM

here to help: Tatsuma: She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

What the hell are you talking about? She's criticizing the American government. She thinks THEY are pulling a snowjob.

And I find your claim of being attacked for being jewish in Canada is highly suspicious. Are you saying Canadians are anti-semitic? Because that is ridiculous.


Is a snowjob some Canadian sex move that has yet to make its way south of the border yet?
 
2013-04-21 07:52:03 PM

maggoo: How many times do people believe their precious snowflakes aren't capable of doing the stuff they actually did? Does that make them mad? Some parents even believe that it's impossible that their teenage kids ever thought about the opposite sex. Try to ask them if they believe their kids are capable of conducting terrorist acts. They will act not unlike this woman.

But in spite of this, she still calls for her nephew to be heard, and he needs to be, at least to get people like this woman to STFU, and the conspiracy theorists as well.


I'm not disagreeing with you on that first point, I just feel that there's a difference between her denial and the more typical denial you see when some kid knocks over a liquor store. There's "I can't believe it, they must have the wrong guy, they must just want to convict him to cover their asses" and believing that there's a shadowy conspiracy actively manufacturing falsified photos/footage and staging running gunbattles and that your loved ones just happened to have been randomly dragged into it. To some extent, I do think this has a lot to do with her Chechen upbringing, but she's projecting her experiences heavily enough that I really think she's got some more serious issues here than just cultural baggage. As others have said, I think we're getting some insight into at least part of what went wrong with these kids: their support network appears to consist in large part of angry, paranoid, finger-pointers who perhaps sometimes take shielding the kids from accountability to rather...extreme heights.

On the second point, we'll see if she STFU or not. I think she's much more likely to believe the jury is rigged, that the judge is a CIA agent, and that her nephew was waterboarded into confessing.

It makes me sad that the third thing might actually turn out to be true, but that's not the point.
 
2013-04-21 07:52:15 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Inoffensive speech needs no protection.


Offensive speech shouldn't need any protection either.
 
2013-04-21 07:58:55 PM

Tatsuma: Greylight: My apologies, perhaps you are just xenophobic and enjoy twisting a grieving families words to support your bigoted word view. Scratch that, I'm not apologizing, your bigotry has repeatedly been on display for years on this site.

Consider not mentioning your Canadian ties in the future, thanks.

So you do not have any proofs of anything racist I say, so you switch to calling me a bigot and xenophobic.

So please can you show me what I said in this thread that was in any way bigoted or xenophobic?

Not to mention the irony of you whinging and crying about me saying 'Good riddance' to a women that if she hates Canada and doesn't consider it a Democracy and she's leaving back for Russia' and end your post with you saying that you don't want me associated in any way with Canada.


You are nether honest or self aware. Your bigotry is a matter of record, I would no sooner argue the colour of the sky with a child.

There is a lot of anger from those whose lives have been affected, I can understand them lashing out at a grieving family member. You are simply an AH, and willing to jump on the coattails of victims to further your own bigotry. It's disgusting.
 
2013-04-21 08:02:32 PM

Marine1: here to help: Tatsuma: She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

What the hell are you talking about? She's criticizing the American government. She thinks THEY are pulling a snowjob.

And I find your claim of being attacked for being jewish in Canada is highly suspicious. Are you saying Canadians are anti-semitic? Because that is ridiculous.

Is a snowjob some Canadian sex move that has yet to make its way south of the border yet?


Yeah but you wouldn't like it...trust me it's a lot more painful than it sounds...

/freezer burn
 
2013-04-21 08:04:42 PM

Greylight: You are nether honest or self aware. Your bigotry is a matter of record, I would no sooner argue the colour of the sky with a child.

There is a lot of anger from those whose lives have been affected, I can understand them lashing out at a grieving family member. You are simply an AH, and willing to jump on the coattails of victims to further your own bigotry. It's disgusting.


So once again you make claims that you cannot prove in any way. If it was so easy and evident, you'd have posted 200 quotes by now.

Also, an AH? What the fark is an AH?

The aunt is a victim suddenly as well?
 
2013-04-21 08:04:43 PM

sheep snorter:


Which is exactly why we need to rethink our immigration laws, we don't need anymore crazies, we have enough of our own without importing more.

Actually, possibly improving mental health access and screening might do something.

Speaking of citizenship, wouldn't the older brother become a citizen upon his marriage or no?
 
2013-04-21 08:04:46 PM

ReluctantPaladin: Yeah but you wouldn't like it...trust me it's a lot more painful than it sounds...

/freezer burn


That's why it's important to carry a comprehensive butt insurance policy.

/ Dark Star Insurance will be there.
 
2013-04-21 08:06:02 PM

Regullus: Which is exactly why we need to rethink our immigration laws, we don't need anymore crazies, we have enough of our own without importing more.


Why are you trying to oppress the victim in all this, you racist?
 
2013-04-21 08:06:04 PM

maggoo: TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: maggoo: TV's Vinnie: Blowing up innocent people (including kids) isn't Democracy, Sugartits.

The rule of law and due process should still apply to the people behind abhorrent acts like the Boston bombing.   She might not be the captain of the debate team with all that eloquence, but if you read what she says that's what she meant.

One of the reasons that that's important is that the trial will prove facts, and if all happened as it looks then due process will lead the aunt to STFU.

No. She's whining because she wasn't given a free McMansion and SUV the moment she fell off the boat.

That isn't racist at all.

It wasn't. She just doesn't grasp the fact that her nephews have committed the most deadly terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11-01.

Are you off the meds?  You rambled on about McMansions and SUVs.  Don't you even know what you are writing?


Question should be is, do YOU, Magoo?
 
2013-04-21 08:09:55 PM

Regullus: sheep snorter:

Which is exactly why we need to rethink our immigration laws, we don't need anymore crazies, we have enough of our own without importing more.

Actually, possibly improving mental health access and screening might do something.

Speaking of citizenship, wouldn't the older brother become a citizen upon his marriage or no?


No. It would allow him to apply for permanent resident status, though.
 
2013-04-21 08:21:22 PM

Tatsuma: The aunt is just so incredibly stupid, and I can't believe she just won't shut up. Then again the father also came out with stupid theories


They are coming to terms with a terribly crime committed by two young men they loved. Grief, anger and confusions are inevitable.

The only one in that family who sounds sane is the Uncle. LOSERS! LOSERS! You've shamed the family! GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE! You shame all Chechns!

Like Bernie Madoff shamed all Jews?
 
2013-04-21 08:22:20 PM

Tatsuma: here to help: Jesus... how many countries do you have citizenship in? Do you identify as Canadian?

Citizen of the world Three

I'd identify as Jewish first, American second, Israeli third. Canadian probably a distant fourth. As long as I am a citizen, pay taxes when relevant and loyal to the country, I don't see why that would matter.

here to help: She's still a damned nut but that isn't a crime.

No one said it was right to threaten her to death. We're just saying: if you're not farking happy with what Canada has to offer, get the fark out you farking ungrateful biatch.


Wow!  Fourth!  And a distant fourth at that!  Well, thank you so much for deigning to maintain a citizenship of convenience with us!  As for being "loyal to the country" exactly which country are you going to be loyal to when national interests clash?

Not sure why you'd be interested in being a citizen of Canada.  We don't have nearly as many secrets worth stealing for the motherland as the US.
 
2013-04-21 08:24:15 PM

Tatsuma: Greylight: You are nether honest or self aware. Your bigotry is a matter of record, I would no sooner argue the colour of the sky with a child.

There is a lot of anger from those whose lives have been affected, I can understand them lashing out at a grieving family member. You are simply an AH, and willing to jump on the coattails of victims to further your own bigotry. It's disgusting.

So once again you make claims that you cannot prove in any way. If it was so easy and evident, you'd have posted 200 quotes by now.

Also, an AH? What the fark is an AH?

The aunt is a victim suddenly as well?


If your nephew did something similar, you too would be a victim of their actions. Probably, you would be blamed as well by some for your public history of trolling and bigotry, be followed constantly by media, and receive threatening calls.
 
2013-04-21 08:24:41 PM

Marine1: here to help: Tatsuma: She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

What the hell are you talking about? She's criticizing the American government. She thinks THEY are pulling a snowjob.

And I find your claim of being attacked for being jewish in Canada is highly suspicious. Are you saying Canadians are anti-semitic? Because that is ridiculous.

Is a snowjob some Canadian sex move that has yet to make its way south of the border yet?


No, it's a 1983 Canadian sitcom that aired at about the same time as the immortal Louis Del Grande in "Seeing Things":   Snow Job
 
2013-04-21 08:29:51 PM

Tatsuma: Regullus: Which is exactly why we need to rethink our immigration laws, we don't need anymore crazies, we have enough of our own without importing more.

Why are you trying to oppress the victim in all this, you racist?


No, I think it's mentalism. I'm a mentalist. Yeah, I did have to look it up.
 
2013-04-21 08:37:00 PM
Rage *millions..cough* Against *sony..cough* The *mansions..cough* Machine

Seriously.
 
2013-04-21 08:39:10 PM

ReluctantPaladin: Wow! Fourth! And a distant fourth at that! Well, thank you so much for deigning to maintain a citizenship of convenience with us!


I don't really find much differences between Canadians and Americans, so the distant fourth is whatever differs between your average Canadian and American (really not a whole lot). Would you rather say that I identify as a North American second?

ReluctantPaladin: As for being "loyal to the country" exactly which country are you going to be loyal to when national interests clash?


There are no clashes between Canada, America and Israel so there is no problem here, and there is no difficulty being loyal to all three

ReluctantPaladin: Not sure why you'd be interested in being a citizen of Canada. We don't have nearly as many secrets worth stealing for the motherland as the US.


Yes yes Jews are filthy cosmopolitan scum who are only interested in stealing from gentiles in order to further Jewish interests. Really oldschool there.
 
2013-04-21 08:40:32 PM

Regullus: No, I think it's mentalism. I'm a mentalist. Yeah, I did have to look it up.


You never watched 'I'm Alan Partridge'?
 
2013-04-21 08:42:32 PM

Tatsuma: ReluctantPaladin: Not sure why you'd be interested in being a citizen of Canada. We don't have nearly as many secrets worth stealing for the motherland as the US.

Yes yes Jews are filthy cosmopolitan scum who are only interested in stealing from gentiles in order to further Jewish interests. Really oldschool there.


That's some Grade A disingenuous victim-playing. Good job!
 
2013-04-21 08:48:43 PM

Tatsuma: Yes yes Jews are filthy cosmopolitan scum who are only interested in stealing from gentiles in order to further Jewish interests. Really oldschool there.


you're gonna be in so much trouble with the Elders for that
 
2013-04-21 08:50:40 PM

Marine1: skullkrusher: Marine1: skullkrusher: DRO

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I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar with that phrase.

DROxINxTHExWIND. Fark's resident angry black man/9-11 Truther

Ah.

I have a policy not to take seriously individuals who throw in "x" in place of the space character in screen names.


or people who name themselves after military aircraft *snerk*
 
2013-04-21 08:50:45 PM

jaytkay: Tatsuma: ReluctantPaladin: Not sure why you'd be interested in being a citizen of Canada. We don't have nearly as many secrets worth stealing for the motherland as the US.

Yes yes Jews are filthy cosmopolitan scum who are only interested in stealing from gentiles in order to further Jewish interests. Really oldschool there.

That's some Grade A disingenuous victim-playing. Good job!


is it really disingenuous when the guy he's responding to just implied that Jews are not good citizens and are only interested in stealing secrets to benefit Israel? Answer: no, stop being a dumbass
 
2013-04-21 08:57:16 PM

skullkrusher: is it really disingenuous when the guy he's responding to just implied that Jews are not good citizens and are only interested in stealing secrets to benefit Israel? Answer: no, stop being a dumbass


Yeah exactly. There is no way anyone would have said anything even close to that if the third citizenship was Irish, or Greek, or Indian, or South African.

But hey, I'm a Jew, so I'm a filthy parasite poisoning my host nation to benefit the Jewish Cause.
 
2013-04-21 08:57:20 PM

Tatsuma: Regullus: No, I think it's mentalism. I'm a mentalist. Yeah, I did have to look it up.

You never watched 'I'm Alan Partridge'?


Had to look that up too. I'll have to rent it.
 
2013-04-21 09:04:29 PM

skullkrusher: jaytkay: Tatsuma: ReluctantPaladin: Not sure why you'd be interested in being a citizen of Canada. We don't have nearly as many secrets worth stealing for the motherland as the US.

Yes yes Jews are filthy cosmopolitan scum who are only interested in stealing from gentiles in order to further Jewish interests. Really oldschool there.

That's some Grade A disingenuous victim-playing. Good job!

is it really disingenuous when the guy he's responding to just implied that Jews are not good citizens and are only interested in stealing secrets to benefit Israel? Answer: no, stop being a dumbass


1) It is disingenuous to pretend ignorance of the very high-profile cases of Israeli espionage operations against the US.

2) It is disingenuous to pretend that criticism of Israeli actions is an attack on "Jews" and "Jewish interests"
 
2013-04-21 09:06:10 PM

Tatsuma: skullkrusher: is it really disingenuous when the guy he's responding to just implied that Jews are not good citizens and are only interested in stealing secrets to benefit Israel? Answer: no, stop being a dumbass

Yeah exactly. There is no way anyone would have said anything even close to that if the third citizenship was Irish, or Greek, or Indian, or South African.

But hey, I'm a Jew, so I'm a filthy parasite poisoning my host nation to benefit the Jewish Cause.


you also drink the blood of Christian children. I know all about that. I live on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. It might as well be Transylvania for my young son
 
2013-04-21 09:07:33 PM

jaytkay: skullkrusher: jaytkay: Tatsuma: ReluctantPaladin: Not sure why you'd be interested in being a citizen of Canada. We don't have nearly as many secrets worth stealing for the motherland as the US.

Yes yes Jews are filthy cosmopolitan scum who are only interested in stealing from gentiles in order to further Jewish interests. Really oldschool there.

That's some Grade A disingenuous victim-playing. Good job!

is it really disingenuous when the guy he's responding to just implied that Jews are not good citizens and are only interested in stealing secrets to benefit Israel? Answer: no, stop being a dumbass

1) It is disingenuous to pretend ignorance of the very high-profile cases of Israeli espionage operations against the US.

2) It is disingenuous to pretend that criticism of Israeli actions is an attack on "Jews" and "Jewish interests"


he was talking to Tats specifically and specifically referring to Jews, not Israel. So yeah and now you've added some disingenuousness of your own
 
2013-04-21 09:14:46 PM

skullkrusher: he was talking to Tats specifically and specifically referring to Jews, not Israel. So yeah and now you've added some disingenuousness of your own


There is no nation on earth who has more spies in more countries than America (that includes American spies in Canada)

Yet it's immediately about the Jews and Jewish states with bigots. No one ever says 'American citizenship, eh? Must be a dirty spy!'
 
2013-04-21 09:23:24 PM
I swear Iv seen her before....
Maybe a Russian Prono
 
2013-04-21 09:31:31 PM

skullkrusher: he was talking to Tats specifically and specifically referring to Jews, not Israel. So yeah and now you've added some disingenuousness of your own


I think you  are referring to some other thread

Somebody wrote about Canada and citizenship and "the motherland" meaning Israel. No mention of Jews
And I commented on Israeli espionage. No mention of Jews.

And Tats in his usual dishonest way starts crying Jews! Jews! Jews! you're an anti-Semite!!

And he claims WE are the ones making it "about the Jews".
 
2013-04-21 09:35:28 PM

sheep snorter: [i.imgur.com image 550x873]


Let's see....  Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian) ,Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian). Nidal Malik Hasan (Palestinian parents), Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev (Serbian)

These guys account for more than 98% of the domestic terrorism body count since 2000, so yeah, I think you can attach a profile to the most successful and prolific terrorists in America.Since 2000, the American spree killers typically were driven by mental illness, not some warped ideology that compelled them to hate Americans.

Oh, and lets not forget the guy who holds the spree killing record.Where did he come from again?   Not saying close the borders, but I think it would be wise to do a better job screening and monitoring foreign nationals, or better yet, those who fit a certain profile..    Ship them out if even a whiff of extremism turns up.  How to deal with the mentally ill Americans that may end up commiting acts of terror is another debate entirely.

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2013-04-21 09:41:54 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Not saying close the borders, but I think it would be wise to do a better job screening and monitoring foreign nationals, or better yet, those who fit a certain profile..


How about improving mental health screening and treatment? Cho was completely part of the US system when he went off the rails the way he did.  It had nothing to do with his immigration status, and at the time he immigrated he hadn't yet started going off in his "interesting" direction, so there was nothing to see.

Don't forget the Columbine killers, Adam Lanza, and that Holmes guy who shot up the theater, either. Columbine tried to use bombs, even (they just didn't manage to set them off successfully).

Plenty of born in the USA spree killers out there.
 
2013-04-21 09:58:18 PM

SlothB77: they found several bombs in the apartment.  the kid's roommate's license plate says "terrorista".

they have the full video of the kid putting the bomb down next to an eight year old boy and detonating it.

there's your evidence.


I wouldn't read too much into that license plate.. And it wasn't his roommate, it was two friends of his that it seems did what typical 19 -21 year olds do and incorporated the name of a popular group, this just happens to be a popular club music group, into something their persona.
 
2013-04-21 10:16:43 PM
Douglas A-20 Havocs are monitoring this thread....

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2013-04-21 10:17:42 PM

dennysgod: She's right you know, and tomorrow Glenn Beck will tell us all about it.


Wow. I didn't see that. Amazing, he's trying to round up the posse to lynch a guy who didn't do shiat.

/can't someone just beat Beck's ass?
 
2013-04-21 10:32:59 PM

Tatsuma: maggoo: You would believe that too if you kept being threatened just because the offsprings one of your siblings had ended up going off the deep end, and no one cared or did nothing about that.

I've had many people in Canada telling me to 'go home'. That almost never happened in America but it happened a lot in Canada. I was also assaulted for being Jewish, and received plenty of threats and hatred in my life. I never blamed it on Canadian Democracy, or lack of, and always attributed it to idiots and racists and general farkwads.

She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

There is no excuse for her behavior.


Dude where in the fark did you live here where they pulled this?
 
2013-04-21 10:35:11 PM

thoughtless: Tatsuma: maggoo: You would believe that too if you kept being threatened just because the offsprings one of your siblings had ended up going off the deep end, and no one cared or did nothing about that.

I've had many people in Canada telling me to 'go home'. That almost never happened in America but it happened a lot in Canada. I was also assaulted for being Jewish, and received plenty of threats and hatred in my life. I never blamed it on Canadian Democracy, or lack of, and always attributed it to idiots and racists and general farkwads.

She has come out and attacked the Canadian Government, the government that sheltered her and opened its arms to her when she fled real persecution from Russia, which I'm not even sure we should call a Democracy in the first place.

There is no excuse for her behavior.

Dude where in the fark did you live here where they pulled this?


Here is a hint, he is lying.
 
2013-04-21 10:41:12 PM

thoughtless: Dude where in the fark did you live here where they pulled this?


Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto.

To be fair, Montreal was the worst, and it seemed to come from a lot of French-Canadians. I visited Quebec city once and it was really really really bad there as well. Like, people openly pointing and shouting at me.
 
2013-04-21 10:47:12 PM

itazurakko: Pumpernickel bread: Not saying close the borders, but I think it would be wise to do a better job screening and monitoring foreign nationals, or better yet, those who fit a certain profile..

How about improving mental health screening and treatment? Cho was completely part of the US system when he went off the rails the way he did.  It had nothing to do with his immigration status, and at the time he immigrated he hadn't yet started going off in his "interesting" direction, so there was nothing to see.

Don't forget the Columbine killers, Adam Lanza, and that Holmes guy who shot up the theater, either. Columbine tried to use bombs, even (they just didn't manage to set them off successfully).

Plenty of born in the USA spree killers out there.


Apparently I wasn't clear.  My point was that domestic terrorists by and large tend to suffer from a mental condition and that is why they kill.  While I used him as an example as a foreigner coming here and shooting people up, Cho actually fits better with this group.     Then there are the cats who are sane that kill out of ideology.  They certainly seem to fit a profile - certain region of the world and certain extreme religious leanings.  No one solution is going to address both types of spree killer/terrorists.  For the later, it starts with tighter immigration and monitoring, for the former, I don't know.  More public money for mental health treatment is a tough sell and even if they get the treatment, it doesn't seem to prevent violence.  Cho, the Colorado guy, and Sandy Hook guy had all apparently met with counselors, but they still did what they did.
 
2013-04-21 11:02:02 PM

Pumpernickel bread: More public money for mental health treatment is a tough sell and even if they get the treatment, it doesn't seem to prevent violence. Cho, the Colorado guy, and Sandy Hook guy had all apparently met with counselors, but they still did what they did.


Well the answer is indeed more money in mental health care, but the problem is that a shiatload of these nuts can pass as normal for the most part.

Heard about the spree stabber in Lone Star? No sign of being unbalanced, he was a bit shy but otherwise everyone thought he was normal and nice.

He said he'd been dreaming of skinning people alive to wear their faces and to eat their organs ever since he was 8 year old.
 
2013-04-21 11:12:30 PM

Tatsuma: thoughtless: Dude where in the fark did you live here where they pulled this?

Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto.

To be fair, Montreal was the worst, and it seemed to come from a lot of French-Canadians. I visited Quebec city once and it was really really really bad there as well. Like, people openly pointing and shouting at me.


I'd heard Mtl was bad for anti-semitism but I thought here in Toronto was the least place you'd be likely to encounter that in Southern Ontario. Guess not
 
2013-04-21 11:14:36 PM

Tatsuma: I visited Quebec city once and it was really really really bad there as well. Like, people openly pointing and shouting at me.


Totally plausible. No really, we believe you.

Quebecers are well known for their ability to distinguish the Jews in a street full of strangers.
 
2013-04-21 11:22:04 PM

thoughtless: I'd heard Mtl was bad for anti-semitism but I thought here in Toronto was the least place you'd be likely to encounter that in Southern Ontario. Guess not


Well Toronto was probably the least of them. There it only came from skinheads downtown and once or twice from other minorities. Ottawa was mild, Montreal was bad. From what I hear, Georgetown has a huge KKK concentration too.

Also there was a Nazi march just yesterday in London, Ont. 4/20 and all that.
 
2013-04-22 12:02:40 AM

Tatsuma: thoughtless: I'd heard Mtl was bad for anti-semitism but I thought here in Toronto was the least place you'd be likely to encounter that in Southern Ontario. Guess not

Well Toronto was probably the least of them. There it only came from skinheads downtown and once or twice from other minorities. Ottawa was mild, Montreal was bad. From what I hear, Georgetown has a huge KKK concentration too.

Also there was a Nazi march just yesterday in London, Ont. 4/20 and all that.


jinkchak.files.wordpress.com

You're really doing a f--king disservice to your own people.

jaytkay: Tatsuma: I visited Quebec city once and it was really really really bad there as well. Like, people openly pointing and shouting at me.

Totally plausible. No really, we believe you.

Quebecers are well known for their ability to distinguish the Jews in a street full of strangers.


I thought French Canadians were equal opportunity haters anyhow.  At least as far as hatred of anyone not speaking "French" goes,
 
2013-04-22 12:12:59 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: You're really doing a f--king disservice to your own people.


... how is that? There was a march yesterday, between 20 and 60 according to most accounts, protected by the police.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I thought French Canadians were equal opportunity haters anyhow. At least as far as hatred of anyone not speaking "French" goes,


Well it certainly seemed to bother them to see a Jew walking in the streets of their precious capital.
 
2013-04-22 12:26:02 AM

maggoo: How certain are you that tomorrow some family member or acquaintance of yours doesn't go off the deep end?  Would you ask yourself those very same questions if you were living in an entirely different country and never saw them for years on end?

Your attempt to rationalize that some random distant family member being constantly harassed and receiving death threats is somehow ok and compatible with a society where people have rights is very telling of how good of a person you are.


oh they did. and i'll support little johnny murder heroin till the day i die! why do you people judge me so?!
 
2013-04-22 12:51:43 AM
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2013-04-22 12:54:33 AM

Tatsuma: StreetlightInTheGhetto: You're really doing a f--king disservice to your own people.

... how is that? There was a march yesterday, between 20 and 60 according to most accounts, protected by the police.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I thought French Canadians were equal opportunity haters anyhow. At least as far as hatred of anyone not speaking "French" goes,

Well it certainly seemed to bother them to see a Jew walking in the streets of their precious capital.


How did they know you were Jewish? Were you walking down the street wearing a Star of David?
 
2013-04-22 01:56:44 AM
Is it just me or does she sound a lot like Roseanne Roseannadanna?
 
2013-04-22 05:43:11 AM

ongbok: How did they know you were Jewish? Were you walking down the street wearing a Star of David?


Tatsuma is pretty gung ho about his religion, so it's very possible that he wears the Hasidic clothes.
 
2013-04-22 08:23:21 AM
Still no word on when they'll threaten the "They are angels" father
 
2013-04-22 10:36:36 AM

ongbok: How did they know you were Jewish? Were you walking down the street wearing a Star of David?


Ever since he converted to Judaism a few years ago, he's gotten this victim mentality thing down.
 
2013-04-22 11:14:02 AM
She's crazy hot.
www.sunnewsnetwork.ca
 
2013-04-22 11:46:58 AM

TheJoe03: Tatsuma is pretty gung ho about his religion, so it's very possible that he wears the Hasidic clothes.


I dress like a regular Orthodox Jew

WhoGAS: Ever since he converted to Judaism a few years ago, he's gotten this victim mentality thing down.


A convert is a non-Jew who decided to embrace Judaism. I am not a convert, I was a non-religious Jew who became religious, the term is 'Baal Teshuva'
 
2013-04-22 11:57:35 AM

Tatsuma: the term is 'Baal Teshuva'


I appreciate you increasing my knowledge.
 
2013-04-22 12:20:44 PM

WhoGAS: I appreciate you increasing my knowledge.


No problem. The term in English means 'master of repentance', meaning someone who lead a non-religious life and is now leading a religious life.

Now, if there was an Hebrew term for 'guy still trying to repent, doing a fairly poor job at it', I would rather it applied to me instead, but sadly we only got the one term.
 
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