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2013-04-21 03:53:08 PM
Regulations?  We don't need to stinkin' regulations.
 
2013-04-21 04:08:19 PM
Damn

/big bada boom
 
2013-04-21 04:28:44 PM
So it was right next to homes and a school? Dang...
 
2013-04-21 05:05:23 PM
A junior high right there?  That's some fine municipal planning there, Lou.
 
2013-04-21 05:05:49 PM
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2013-04-21 05:06:35 PM

Errk: So it was right next to homes and a school? Dang...


Well, not anymore, so they have that going for them.
 
2013-04-21 05:06:40 PM
Looks like they resealed the track, which is nice.
 
2013-04-21 05:08:37 PM
Damn, it was right across the street from a school and a stones throw from homes.
 
2013-04-21 05:09:54 PM
FTA: West has only about 2,700 residents, but the affected area is in a densely populated neighborhood.

And yet people still think it's a good idea to keep encroaching residential zones in on industrial sites.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:10 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Regulations?  We don't need to stinkin' regulations.


If the depot was run by a large corporation, I doubt this accident would happen. Corporation wouldn't operate without insurance. With that quantity of ammonium nitrate next to a residential area, I doubt the insurance premiums would be affordable. So the corporation would either move the depot, operate with lower quantities, and/or improve safety.

Same reason propane companies are all small businesses. They run until an accident, then they get sued and go bankrupt.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:26 PM
Out in the West Texas town of West, Texas
I fell in love with an airfield named Love.

/okay, it's in the east and 80 miles away. Poetic license.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:39 PM
That father who was filming it from his truck said there were people also filming it in front of him. Has anyone heard whether or not they survived?
 
2013-04-21 05:15:25 PM
This makes sense.....to Texans
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2013-04-21 05:16:24 PM

Farty McPooPants: A junior high right there? That's some fine municipal planning there, Lou.


See the area around many military bases.
 
2013-04-21 05:16:37 PM

js530: Britney Spear's Speculum: Regulations?  We don't need to stinkin' regulations.

If the depot was run by a large corporation, I doubt this accident would happen. Corporation wouldn't operate without insurance. With that quantity of ammonium nitrate next to a residential area, I doubt the insurance premiums would be affordable. So the corporation would either move the depot, operate with lower quantities, and/or improve safety.

Same reason propane companies are all small businesses. They run until an accident, then they get sued and go bankrupt.


If that were the case, the corporation would've bought as many politicians as it took to keep residential areas from encroaching on its property to keep it's insurance from going up.

Or just pay the politicians to remove them from liability.
 
2013-04-21 05:18:22 PM

Snarfangel: I fell in love with an airfield named Love.


You probably need a new hobby.
 
2013-04-21 05:18:56 PM

August11: That father who was filming it from his truck said there were people also filming it in front of him. Has anyone heard whether or not they survived?


Yeah, he was interviewed the next day on "The Today Show".

http://www.today.com/id/49063771/ns/today-video/#51581115
 
2013-04-21 05:20:39 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Farty McPooPants: A junior high right there? That's some fine municipal planning there, Lou.

See the area around many military bases.


Bases tend to suffer the same problem as they were there first then the city came to meet it. Take Nellis AFB, for instance. Then again, many military bases don't exactly have the same potential for mass accidental destruction as all fertilizer plants.
 
2013-04-21 05:21:38 PM
Based on comparisons of the two photographs, there is a distinct lack of buildings and trees in the second picture as compared to the first.

It is, therefore, safe to assume that someone done goofed.

i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-21 05:24:57 PM
Up to 280 tons of 62-0-0 or stronger
 
2013-04-21 05:26:48 PM
You want something to talk about.
Hang around Ft. Hood a couple of hours.
That's all it will take.
Don't know how they could stand the smell in West T.
 
2013-04-21 05:27:01 PM

IoSaturnalia: Snarfangel: I fell in love with an airfield named Love.

You probably need a new hobby.


You don't like planespotting?
 
2013-04-21 05:27:37 PM
Wow, the blast was strong enough to blow all the grass off that field on the right?
 
2013-04-21 05:27:44 PM
It's Texas. According to the bumper stickers, we're not supposed to mess with Texas. Don't tell 'em what to do, don't tell 'em how to manage their affairs, don't suggest safe and sane ways of operating industries and schools, don't criticize their duly elected officials, such as Rep. Ted Cruz.
The corollary therefore is that we should not feel sorry for Texas.

How're the folks in Boston doing? Cuz they sure had it damn rough last week.
 
2013-04-21 05:27:52 PM

Summoner101: YouPeopleAreCrazy: Farty McPooPants: A junior high right there? That's some fine municipal planning there, Lou.

See the area around many military bases.

Bases tend to suffer the same problem as they were there first then the city came to meet it. Take Nellis AFB, for instance. Then again, many military bases don't exactly have the same potential for mass accidental destruction as all fertilizer plants.


And they tend to take somewhat better care of things that might go BOOM, and design the storage areas so that if they *do* go BOOM, they go BOOM in a somewhat-safe manner to avoid setting off anything else in the area that might go BOOM, or at least in a manner so as to avoid massive collateral damage from an accidental case of BOOM.
 
2013-04-21 05:28:53 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Farty McPooPants: A junior high right there? That's some fine municipal planning there, Lou.

See the area around many military bases.


Except the military runs with rather stricter regulations.

i151.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-21 05:29:10 PM
Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?
 
2013-04-21 05:29:59 PM
There was a fertilizer plant explosion?  Bullschitt.
 
2013-04-21 05:31:46 PM

IoSaturnalia: Snarfangel: I fell in love with an airfield named Love.

You probably need a new hobby.


I see whut u did thar.
 
2013-04-21 05:31:58 PM

wildcardjack: Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?


From what I've heard the plant was. And that probably made all the land surrounding it cheap and prime pickings for developers and idiots that moved there.
 
2013-04-21 05:34:32 PM

wildcardjack: Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?


That's not just any plant. That's a bluebonnet!

/Okay, I will stop teasing Texans about their lack of vegetation.
 
2013-04-21 05:35:35 PM

Snarfangel: IoSaturnalia: Snarfangel: I fell in love with an airfield named Love.

You probably need a new hobby.

You don't like planespotting?


snerk.
 
2013-04-21 05:35:37 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: FTA: West has only about 2,700 residents, but the affected area is in a densely populated neighborhood.

And yet people still think it's a good idea to keep encroaching residential zones in on industrial sites.


Used to know someone who lived in a small town build around a flour mill.

It was two or three blocks' deep worth of houses, a gas station, and a flour mill.

You didn't JOKE about the words "fire" or "dust explosion" there...
 
2013-04-21 05:37:16 PM
Wow!  The explosion actually caused the trees to grow leaves.  That's some powerful fertilizer right there.
 
2013-04-21 05:38:05 PM
It's Texas! The market will sort this all out! There is NO need for more Government regulation!!!!!!

Of course, the "market" can't revive the dead. But jobs!!! Prosperity!! Down with the EPA!
 
2013-04-21 05:40:27 PM

wildcardjack: Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?


The plant got a safety fine of $30.00 in 1960.
How old did that school look?
The plant had no violations since
 
2013-04-21 05:45:38 PM

sloshed_again: wildcardjack: Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?

The plant got a safety fine of $30.00 in 1960.
How old did that school look?
The plant had no violations since


Oh, you're cute.

First, the $30 fine was in 1985. And you're conveniently forgetting the 2006 and 2012 fines, or how it lied two weeks ago to EPA in a hazards report.

"Ramit Plushnick-Masti and Jack Gillum, reporting for the AP, note that: "There were no sprinklers. No firewalls. No water deluge systems." Without such basic fire suppression systems, once the plant started to go, it was almost unstoppable, and the fire spread quickly through the facility without any walls to keep it in check. This made the accident even more devastating than it could have been, and endangered the lives of first responders who arrived on scene to help victims.""

source
 
2013-04-21 05:47:07 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: It's Texas. According to the bumper stickers, we're not supposed to mess with Texas.


Dude, it's an anti-litter campaign. Nothing more.
 
2013-04-21 05:48:19 PM

ongbok: From what I've heard the plant was. And that probably made all the land surrounding it cheap and prime pickings for developers and idiots that moved there.


If I ran a company like that, I'd want to buy up a good part of the surrounding land and just keep it undeveloped.

/Course, after Kelo, the city would probably just force-purchase the land back and develop it.
 
2013-04-21 05:49:39 PM
Wait...what's that I see?

i218.photobucket.com
Ever the opportunist.
 
2013-04-21 05:50:59 PM

sloshed_again: wildcardjack: Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?

The plant got a safety fine of $30.00 in 1960.
How old did that school look?
The plant had no violations since


How many times was it inspected since 1960, and by who?

We get the fire dept or county hazmat every year or two here...
 
2013-04-21 05:51:14 PM
West, Texas was slapped by the Invisible Hand.
 
2013-04-21 05:52:27 PM
I wonder how old the before pic is.  Seems like there's a lot more trees in the after image.
 
2013-04-21 05:54:07 PM
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2013-04-21 05:57:36 PM

Bonzo_1116: sloshed_again: wildcardjack: Which was there first, the plant or the schools and buildings?

The plant got a safety fine of $30.00 in 1960.
How old did that school look?
The plant had no violations since

How many times was it inspected since 1960, and by who?

We get the fire dept or county hazmat every year or two here...


I don't what they have. I just read about it. I'm on the opposite end of the country.
They coujd have blown some of that stuff up here so we have leaves on the trees.
 
2013-04-21 05:58:29 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Regulations?  We don't need to stinkin' regulations.


So we spend a week tracking down and killing the Boston Marathon bombers (3 dead, 180 injured), but the people responsible for this disaster (14 dead, hundreds injured) will likely get off without even a slap on the wrist.

Is this what passes for justice in this country?
 
2013-04-21 05:59:11 PM
wait till they start fracking in your hood...they use hydrogen for that

big winkin emoticon goes here....
 
2013-04-21 05:59:43 PM

sloshed_again: I don't what they have. I just read about it. I'm on the opposite end of the country.


Then mayhaps you should keep your mouth shut until you learn to English gooder.
 
2013-04-21 06:00:38 PM
a distinct triple-F-er:

Fire + Fertilizer = F00k off!
 
2013-04-21 06:00:42 PM

andychrist420: I wonder how old the before pic is.  Seems like there's a lot more trees in the after image.


The dates were in the article. 2012
 
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