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(Daily Mail)   Boston bombing suspects' mother was arrested last year for shoplifting from Lord & Taylor department store. But store gets payback--one of their cameras caught her sons along marathon route, helping identify them   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 107
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2013-04-21 04:13:22 PM  
Sorta want
 
2013-04-21 04:29:50 PM  
I'd say thats a twofer, not a payback.

Th family is rapidly showing they are Fark political tab nuts.
 
2013-04-21 04:38:31 PM  
Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.
 
2013-04-21 05:24:12 PM  
Lord and Taylowned
 
2013-04-21 05:40:16 PM  

cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.


Legal aliens, as our guests, have much the same rights as citizens (there are a few exceptions, like voting). What makes you think otherwise?
 
2013-04-21 06:30:33 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.

Legal aliens, as our guests, have much the same rights as citizens (there are a few exceptions, like voting). What makes you think otherwise?


I agree and I would also extend that to anyone who is visiting our country.

I think this pretty much falls under rule #1:
 Your Rights As A Permanent Resident

As a permanent resident (green card holder), you have the right to:
Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration lawWork in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons)Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictionsYour Responsibilities as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident, you are:
Required to obey all laws of the United States the states, and localitiesRequired to file your income tax returns and report your income to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service and state taxing authorities (see IRS link to the right)Expected to support the democratic form of government and not to change the government through illegal meansRequired, if you are a male age 18 through 25, to register with the Selective ServiceI think in this case they should, and probably did, revoke his green card. They would have been elligble for citizenship after this year, having held a green card since 2007.
But the herp and derp was "they didn't read him his rights therfore martial law and Obama is satan and coming to take our guns"

But guests in this country who do not blow people up should be treated with respect.
I'm also wondering if she had hers revoked or surrendered it. That may explain their beef.
A follow up on why she's no longer here would be nice.
The uncle seems cool as hell and I'd like to hang out and drink vodak with him. She seems to be weapons grade crazy.

 
2013-04-21 07:26:34 PM  
What would really be funny if it wasn't the same store (it wasn't sadly, she shoplifted a Lord and Taylor in Suburban Boston).
 
2013-04-21 07:28:58 PM  

Mrtraveler01: What would really be funny if it wasn't the same store (it wasn't sadly, she shoplifted a Lord and Taylor in Suburban Boston).


Wondering if perhaps their choice of location to set bomb(s) had something to do with Mom's history re: Lord and Taylor.
 
2013-04-21 07:29:38 PM  
Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?
 
2013-04-21 07:31:34 PM  

G.I.R.B.: Mrtraveler01: What would really be funny if it wasn't the same store (it wasn't sadly, she shoplifted a Lord and Taylor in Suburban Boston).

Wondering if perhaps their choice of location to set bomb(s) had something to do with Mom's history re: Lord and Taylor.


I thought it had to do with the finish line being there
 
2013-04-21 07:32:36 PM  

cretinbob: I'd say thats a twofer, not a payback.

Th family is rapidly showing they are Fark political tab nuts.


Maybe even C-Span caller nuts.
 
2013-04-21 07:33:41 PM  
Damn, now they're going to did up dirt on anyone connected to the bombers. I hate the media. I felt bad watching the uncle answer a stupid question about how he felt about America. All that needs to happen now is to make sure that kid survives so he can be prosecuted for his crime, and if he wants to say why he did it.
 
2013-04-21 07:34:10 PM  
One of the more shocking things this whole incident has taught me is that Lord & Taylor is still in business.
 
2013-04-21 07:34:25 PM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


Not his.

So $1600, that's two t-shirts, right?
 
2013-04-21 07:34:32 PM  

G.I.R.B.: Wondering if perhaps their choice of location to set bomb(s) had something to do with Mom's history re: Lord and Taylor.


The Lord and Taylor that busted the son was across the street from where he set the bomb.  There was almost zero chance of that bomb doing anything to the Lord and Taylor.
 
2013-04-21 07:35:23 PM  
'This is a set up, my son would never ever carry out such terror attack,' she said Friday.

She went on to say: 'FBI knew everything what my son was doing, told me he was serious leader, that they were afraid of him.'



HAHHAHAHAHHAHHH...GASP...AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH .....wipes tears. Really, seriously? I mean, i know your whole family are a bunch of retarded inbred morans, but you can't expect us to buy this. Really.? Not only are you retarded, and in denial, but you're a criminal, so i have to believe that anything that comes out of your pie hole is bullshiat, and you will say anything to protect your scumbag murdering sons. Guess what lady, it's time to wake up and see that your sons were militant islamic fundie garbage who carelessly murdered innocent people who had done NOTHING against them personally. But I'm sure you know that already, and are just vomiting your special brand of derp all over the newsies to get attention. Quit puking your bullshiat all over us, and take what is left of your idiotic family and GTFO of our Continent. We don't want you here, Go be stupid and felonious somewhere else. Don't worry about your other boy, the Feds will take good care of him I'm sure.
 
2013-04-21 07:37:06 PM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


Involuntary Valet.
 
2013-04-21 07:40:57 PM  
Enough about this coont..
 
2013-04-21 07:41:48 PM  
See, if they had just waterboarded her in the first place, we could have prevented all this.
 
2013-04-21 07:42:51 PM  
Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.

Aspirational shoplifting FTW!

/Real Peopletm shop at Marshall's anyway
//No, you can't have a Wal-Mart in Beantown. Not yours.
 
2013-04-21 07:43:32 PM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.
 
2013-04-21 07:43:45 PM  
And this matters because...?
 
2013-04-21 07:44:10 PM  
OMG IT WAS TERRORIST SHOPLIFTING
 
2013-04-21 07:47:09 PM  
So I guess we have a motive?
 
2013-04-21 07:47:36 PM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


Also attended one of the most prestigious high schools in the city.
 
2013-04-21 07:52:06 PM  
Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.
 
2013-04-21 07:52:35 PM  
"Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended Bunker Hill Community College and was studying to become an engineer but took a year off to pursue boxing. He is a two-time Golden Glove champion"

was.
 
2013-04-21 07:52:48 PM  

cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.


White hat, currently in the hospital, is a citizen as of the last year or so.  The dead one wasn't a citizen, but that's a moot point now anyway.
 
2013-04-21 07:53:07 PM  
Her sons had a helluva way to protest her arrest.
 
2013-04-21 07:53:22 PM  
I'm wondering how these 2 brothers supported themselves. Did the older brother have a job, or were they getting money from the parents? How did the family afford trips to Russia?

I think the younger brother is a citizen.
 
2013-04-21 07:53:50 PM  

Alone in the Snark: Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.


So it's for people who want to live within their means while buying nicer things.  What horrible tardfaces.
 
2013-04-21 07:54:06 PM  

cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.


No, Dzhokhar is a US citizen. The Daily Fail had its facts wrong (stunning, I know )
 
2013-04-21 07:55:09 PM  

Bslim: And this matters because...?


I don't know about you but it's great stuff for playing armchair psychologist.  You have a dad who the uncle says had very little influence on the kids and a shoplifting mom (doubt it was her first time) that can not accept that her boys could do such a thing.

That adds up to kids who had everything they wanted/needed ($900 shoes) and parents who I'll bet barely looked over their shoulder at their kids as long as things seemed ok.

This all comes down to parenting and I'm guessing had something to do with the family split.  All this is of course pure speculation that I"ll point out has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin or where they are from.

I know this for sure, this would never have happened under uncle Ruslan's watch.
 
2013-04-21 07:56:02 PM  
Lord and Taylor... Zachary Taylor was our 12th President. Taylor was a famous army leader. Dick Armey was a leader of FreedomWorks. FreedomWorks is a powerful tea party organization.... Do the math. Can't make this stuff up, folks.
 
2013-04-21 07:56:37 PM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


Hey, you don't have to *live* like a refugee.
 
2013-04-21 07:57:45 PM  
So far, I kind of like the uncle.
 
2013-04-21 07:58:41 PM  

enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.


i.imgur.com

Yeah, that immigrant from Costa Rica in the hat should get the fark out.  And maybe that chinky looking lady on the right too, who knows where she's from.

Oh wait, nevermind.  You're a farking idiot.
 
2013-04-21 07:59:06 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Not his.

So $1600, that's two t-shirts, right?


ta L&T that's probably just the box.
 
2013-04-21 07:59:19 PM  

enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.


Says the Native American.
 
2013-04-21 07:59:34 PM  
An unidentified friend told CNN that he 'hung out, went to parties, smoked some weed... its not like he's some foreign dude.'

Yeah, because only Americans hang out, go to parties, and smoke weed.
 
2013-04-21 08:00:29 PM  

Alone in the Snark: Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.

Aspirational shoplifting FTW!

/Real Peopletm shop at Marshall's anyway
//No, you can't have a Wal-Mart in Beantown. Not yours.


What is the department store hierarchy? I'm assuming that K-Mart is at the bottom, followed by Walmart, Meijer, and Target. I suspect Sam's Club and Costco are next but afterwards I'm at a loss. Sears?
 
2013-04-21 08:01:52 PM  

enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.


where you from? are you native?
if not shush.

you "Americans" all descend from the upchuck the rest of Europe didn't want and you stayed here by virtue of genocide. You are all immigrunts. stfu.

you all sound like Klan members.
 
2013-04-21 08:02:14 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Alone in the Snark: Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.

Aspirational shoplifting FTW!

/Real Peopletm shop at Marshall's anyway
//No, you can't have a Wal-Mart in Beantown. Not yours.

What is the department store hierarchy? I'm assuming that K-Mart is at the bottom, followed by Walmart, Meijer, and Target. I suspect Sam's Club and Costco are next but afterwards I'm at a loss. Sears?


Actually, Walmart is at the bottom., Sears is next, then Pennys.
 
2013-04-21 08:03:18 PM  

cretinbob: I'd say thats a twofer, not a payback.

Th family is rapidly showing they are Fark political tab nuts.


Except for the uncle. Fark owes him a packy run to Kappy's.
 
2013-04-21 08:03:39 PM  

theurge14: enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.



Yeah, that immigrant from Costa Rica in the hat should get the fark out.  And maybe that chinky looking lady on the right too, who knows where she's from.

Oh wait, nevermind.  You're a farking idiot.


The Mexican dude is wearing a cowboy hat, so he can stay. And no one gives a shiat about Asians, they rarely cause any problems. Islamic radicals from Eastern Europe, though, yeah, we could probably do with a few less of those.
 
2013-04-21 08:04:30 PM  

theurge14: enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.

[i.imgur.com image 343x261]

Yeah, that immigrant from Costa Rica in the hat should get the fark out.  And maybe that chinky looking lady on the right too, who knows where she's from.

Oh wait, nevermind.  You're a farking idiot.


You forgot to mention that immigrant in the hat gave his son, who died in battle serving this country so you can say dumb ass shiat like that.
 
2013-04-21 08:04:44 PM  

Silly Jesus: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

We have people on welfare driving Mercedes.  It can be done.


OMGZ WELFARE QUEENS

/they don't exist
//that's the joke
 
2013-04-21 08:04:50 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Sears?


Sears is for people without an internet connection. $44 for a mower blade I can get for $8 on amazon? Dayamn.
 
2013-04-21 08:05:43 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Silly Jesus: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

We have people on welfare driving Mercedes.  It can be done.

OMGZ WELFARE QUEENS

/they don't exist
//that's the joke


Come grocery shopping with me next week, I'll be happy to show you some.
 
2013-04-21 08:06:03 PM  

Mock26: "Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended Bunker Hill Community College and was studying to become an engineer but took a year off to pursue boxing. He is a two-time Golden Glove champion"

was.


Unless he wants to search for the real bombers.
 
2013-04-21 08:08:05 PM  

Mock26: An unidentified friend told CNN that he 'hung out, went to parties, smoked some weed... its not like he's some foreign dude.'

Yeah, because only Americans hang out, go to parties, and smoke weed.


Well, he stopped smoking weed from anywhere to 3 months ago to a year ago depending on reports.  Also, this kid went back to his dorm, hit the gym and rested up in his room the Wednesday AFTER the bombing.

If that isn't the epitome of the 'I don't give a crap' attitude of the American teenager then I don't know what is.
 
2013-04-21 08:08:09 PM  

enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.


Yeah, the bad and the good come together. You get the diversity but with it comes with some bad elements.

Immigration requires extensive paperwork regarding no criminal history in their home country but if they came to the US as kids and then become criminals, then what can you say.
 
2013-04-21 08:08:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Silly Jesus: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

We have people on welfare driving Mercedes.  It can be done.

OMGZ WELFARE QUEENS

/they don't exist
//that's the joke


They most certainly do. They're just not very common. And Silly Jesus is an idiot
 
2013-04-21 08:13:58 PM  

luxup: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.


Their asylum applications is what said they were refugees.

I'm also not trolling; there's no conflict between being a refugee and finding economic success here or even with having money to start with. And of course most people who get into the US on an asylum visa are pretty darn happy to be there. But facts is facts and these guys were refugees.
 
2013-04-21 08:16:24 PM  

enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.

i190.photobucket.com

 
2013-04-21 08:16:27 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mexican dude is wearing a cowboy hat, so he can stay. And no one gives a shiat about Asians, they rarely cause any problems. Islamic radicals from Eastern Europe, though, yeah, we could probably do with a few less of those.


Seriously, do you read the entire news or just the parts you like?  Islamic radicals are the flavor of the month (I don't really mean month).  Look up FALN, not that long ago.  Asians don't cause problems?  Man, buy a thicker newspaper and read more than the 1st page.  Pearl Harbor was pretty big I think but I guess since it was a really really long time ago it doesn't count.  We do have an idiot in NK that stirs up some trouble once in a while.

Wow.  You know what, we are coming for your guns because you just don't demonstrate your responsible enough to have so many.  Don't worry, not all of them.  We will let you keep a few.
 
2013-04-21 08:20:09 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: 'This is a set up, my son would never ever carry out such terror attack,' she said Friday.

She went on to say: 'FBI knew everything what my son was doing, told me he was serious leader, that they were afraid of him.'



HAHHAHAHAHHAHHH...GASP...AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH .....wipes tears. Really, seriously? I mean, i know your whole family are a bunch of retarded inbred morans, but you can't expect us to buy this. Really.? Not only are you retarded, and in denial, but you're a criminal, so i have to believe that anything that comes out of your pie hole is bullshiat, and you will say anything to protect your scumbag murdering sons. Guess what lady, it's time to wake up and see that your sons were militant islamic fundie garbage who carelessly murdered innocent people who had done NOTHING against them personally. But I'm sure you know that already, and are just vomiting your special brand of derp all over the newsies to get attention. Quit puking your bullshiat all over us, and take what is left of your idiotic family and GTFO of our Continent. We don't want you here, Go be stupid and felonious somewhere else. Don't worry about your other boy, the Feds will take good care of him I'm sure.


Actually they (Feds) did know about him.
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-75546585/
 
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2013-04-21 08:20:28 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.

Legal aliens, as our guests, have much the same rights as citizens (there are a few exceptions, like voting). What makes you think otherwise?


You wouldn't think so the way people talk.  Like only US citizens have any rights.
 
2013-04-21 08:21:14 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: luxup: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.

Their asylum applications is what said they were refugees.

I'm also not trolling; there's no conflict between being a refugee and finding economic success here or even with having money to start with. And of course most people who get into the US on an asylum visa are pretty darn happy to be there. But facts is facts and these guys were refugees.


I think maybe we are confusing refugees with what I remember as a kid as 'boat people' those guys had it rough. Refugees don't have to be poor.  A doctor can be a refugee as well as a slave.
 
2013-04-21 08:21:16 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: luxup: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.

Their asylum applications is what said they were refugees.

I'm also not trolling; there's no conflict between being a refugee and finding economic success here or even with having money to start with. And of course most people who get into the US on an asylum visa are pretty darn happy to be there. But facts is facts and these guys were refugees.


I'm not contesting or trying suggest anything. If they were refugees and were able to afford luxury items because they worked their asses, off, etc, that's fine. I merely want to know how these particular individuals were able to afford luxury items.
 
2013-04-21 08:24:24 PM  

Ed Willy: G.I.R.B.: Mrtraveler01: What would really be funny if it wasn't the same store (it wasn't sadly, she shoplifted a Lord and Taylor in Suburban Boston).

Wondering if perhaps their choice of location to set bomb(s) had something to do with Mom's history re: Lord and Taylor.

I thought it had to do with the finish line being there


I couldn't figure out what Finish Line had to do with it.  Figured we were talking about a mall. I'm not a smart woman.
 
2013-04-21 08:24:38 PM  

Silly Jesus: skullkrusher: cameroncrazy1984: Silly Jesus: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

We have people on welfare driving Mercedes.  It can be done.

OMGZ WELFARE QUEENS

/they don't exist
//that's the joke

They most certainly do. They're just not very common. And Silly Jesus is an idiot

Awww, and I have you Farkied as "Smart."  Quite the quandary here.


what does my being smart have to do with your being an idiot? No quandary at all ;)
 
2013-04-21 08:26:53 PM  

WhippingBoy: Manfred J. Hattan: luxup: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.

Their asylum applications is what said they were refugees.

I'm also not trolling; there's no conflict between being a refugee and finding economic success here or even with having money to start with. And of course most people who get into the US on an asylum visa are pretty darn happy to be there. But facts is facts and these guys were refugees.

I'm not contesting or trying suggest anything. If they were refugees and were able to afford luxury items because they worked their asses, off, etc, that's fine. I merely want to know how these particular individuals were able to afford luxury items.


His dad fixed cars I think.  For all we know he had his own garage.  It's not uncommon for immigrants period, no matter what their declared status to work hard and afford nice things, even luxury items.  I hear it's one of the main reasons they come here.

What was it that lady said..."Give us you poor...something something something something"  anyone else know?
 
2013-04-21 08:27:56 PM  

vpb: Adolf Oliver Nipples: cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.

Legal aliens, as our guests, have much the same rights as citizens (there are a few exceptions, like voting). What makes you think otherwise?

You wouldn't think so the way people talk.  Like only US citizens have any rights.


Yeah, well, xenophobia has a long history here.
 
2013-04-21 08:30:31 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: vpb: Adolf Oliver Nipples: cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.

Legal aliens, as our guests, have much the same rights as citizens (there are a few exceptions, like voting). What makes you think otherwise?

You wouldn't think so the way people talk.  Like only US citizens have any rights.

Yeah, well, xenophobia has a long history here.


I am most certainly not afraid of a stupid ol xylophone!
 
2013-04-21 08:31:55 PM  

luxup: WhippingBoy: Manfred J. Hattan: luxup: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.

Their asylum applications is what said they were refugees.

I'm also not trolling; there's no conflict between being a refugee and finding economic success here or even with having money to start with. And of course most people who get into the US on an asylum visa are pretty darn happy to be there. But facts is facts and these guys were refugees.

I'm not contesting or trying suggest anything. If they were refugees and were able to afford luxury items because they worked their asses, off, etc, that's fine. I merely want to know how these particular individuals were able to afford luxury items.

His dad fixed cars I think.  For all we know he had his own garage.  It's not uncommon for immigrants period, no matter what their declared status to work hard and afford nice things, even luxury items.  I hear it's one of the main reasons they come here.

What was it that lady said..."Give us you poor...something something something something"  anyone else know?


I guess that's what I'm having trouble coming to terms with. You move to a place that offers such tremendous advantages, and you "reward" it by blowing up an 8 year old kid. These guys sound like they would have had it made; instead they chose to make themselves into the most hated people in history.
 
2013-04-21 08:34:53 PM  
First they're Russian, ethnic Chechens, now they're Chechnyans.   Can Russnyans, Chechologyians, or Thetans be waiting in the Thesaurusical wings.
 
2013-04-21 08:35:47 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Alone in the Snark: Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.

Aspirational shoplifting FTW!

/Real Peopletm shop at Marshall's anyway
//No, you can't have a Wal-Mart in Beantown. Not yours.

What is the department store hierarchy? I'm assuming that K-Mart is at the bottom, followed by Walmart, Meijer, and Target. I suspect Sam's Club and Costco are next but afterwards I'm at a loss. Sears?


Bergdorf Goodman
Neiman Marcus
Saks 5th
Barneys
Bloomy
Nords
Lord & Taylor
Macys
Penny's
Target
Sears
K-Mart
Walmart


My quick ranking....sure I'm missing a lot
 
2013-04-21 08:37:39 PM  

Ed Willy: G.I.R.B.: Mrtraveler01: What would really be funny if it wasn't the same store (it wasn't sadly, she shoplifted a Lord and Taylor in Suburban Boston).

Wondering if perhaps their choice of location to set bomb(s) had something to do with Mom's history re: Lord and Taylor.

I thought it had to do with the finish line being there


But the mom didn't shoplift from The Finish Line...
 
2013-04-21 08:38:49 PM  

Mock26: "Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended Bunker Hill Community College and was studying to become an engineer but took a year off to pursue boxing. He is a two-time Golden Glove champion"

was.


I think they copied that directly from the BU photojournalism piece on him.
 
2013-04-21 08:43:09 PM  

CarnySaur: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Hey, you don't have to *live* like a refugee.


tompettymusic.com
Sees what you did there
 
2013-04-21 08:45:03 PM  
Isn't it scary and oppressive how many CCTV cameras there are on US streets?

The army of police in military uniform putting an entire city under virtual house arrest to chase one scrawny kid was a tad worrying too.

Feeling free, yanks?
 
2013-04-21 08:45:56 PM  

WhippingBoy: luxup: WhippingBoy: Manfred J. Hattan: luxup: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Who said they were refugees?  Probable the same people saying it was martial law.  Don't let them confuse you, they are a bit touched.

Sorry, not trying to troll, just telling the truth.

Their asylum applications is what said they were refugees.

I'm also not trolling; there's no conflict between being a refugee and finding economic success here or even with having money to start with. And of course most people who get into the US on an asylum visa are pretty darn happy to be there. But facts is facts and these guys were refugees.

I'm not contesting or trying suggest anything. If they were refugees and were able to afford luxury items because they worked their asses, off, etc, that's fine. I merely want to know how these particular individuals were able to afford luxury items.

His dad fixed cars I think.  For all we know he had his own garage.  It's not uncommon for immigrants period, no matter what their declared status to work hard and afford nice things, even luxury items.  I hear it's one of the main reasons they come here.

What was it that lady said..."Give us you poor...something something something something"  anyone else know?

I guess that's what I'm having trouble coming to terms with. You move to a place that offers such tremendous advantages, and you "reward" it by blowing up an 8 year old kid. These guys sound like they would have had it made; instead they chose to make themselves into the most hated people in history.


I hear you, especially the 19 year old, he was what, 8 or 9 when he got here?  I think he totally idolized his brother and that was his downfall.  I believe If not for his older brother this kid would probably have turned out to be the type of person farkers in here would throw their daughters at.

I will admit that there is a big part of me that is very happy that they were not born here.  Even being here as a kid and growing up as American as any immigrant I ever new I find it comforting it was not someone born and raised here.  I mean, I can understand a nut job like Mr. Unibomber and the OK city guy but a kid?  A kid who wasn't bat crap crazy to start with.  Yup, I'm happy he was at lest born someplace else.
 
2013-04-21 08:45:56 PM  

Cream of Meat: Arthur Jumbles: Alone in the Snark: Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.

Aspirational shoplifting FTW!

/Real Peopletm shop at Marshall's anyway
//No, you can't have a Wal-Mart in Beantown. Not yours.

What is the department store hierarchy? I'm assuming that K-Mart is at the bottom, followed by Walmart, Meijer, and Target. I suspect Sam's Club and Costco are next but afterwards I'm at a loss. Sears?

Bergdorf Goodman
Neiman Marcus
Saks 5th
Barneys
Bloomy
Nords
Lord & Taylor
Macys
Penny's
Target
Sears
K-Mart
Walmart


My quick ranking....sure I'm missing a lot


not bad. Maybe flip Nordstrom and Bloomingdale's but otherwise purty good, imo
 
2013-04-21 08:52:16 PM  
Why does she live in an artichoke?
 
2013-04-21 09:01:03 PM  
Small world.
 
2013-04-21 09:08:11 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: you "Americans" all descend from the upchuck the rest of Europe didn't want and you stayed here by virtue of genocide. You are all immigrunts. stfu.


Please. No, we are descended from people who realized that "home" was a rat infested dump and had sense enough to get off our butts and move.

Can't argue on the genocide part though...considering all the immigrants came from countries where invading each others' borders was a hobby. A bloody hobby. But a hobby none the less.
 
2013-04-21 09:09:42 PM  

cretinbob: Oh that makes more sense. They have green cards. They aren't citizens.
So for those biatchng about his Miranda rights being read, they are doing him a favor in not just shipping his ass to Gitmo.


Me thinks the not dead one is naturalized.
I could be full of shiat though as I am recalling this info from cable news.
 
2013-04-21 09:13:13 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: 'This is a set up, my son would never ever carry out such terror attack,' she said Friday.

She went on to say: 'FBI knew everything what my son was doing, told me he was serious leader, that they were afraid of him.'



HAHHAHAHAHHAHHH...GASP...AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH .....wipes tears. Really, seriously? I mean, i know your whole family are a bunch of retarded inbred morans, but you can't expect us to buy this. Really.? Not only are you retarded, and in denial, but you're a criminal, so i have to believe that anything that comes out of your pie hole is bullshiat, and you will say anything to protect your scumbag murdering sons. Guess what lady, it's time to wake up and see that your sons were militant islamic fundie garbage who carelessly murdered innocent people who had done NOTHING against them personally. But I'm sure you know that already, and are just vomiting your special brand of derp all over the newsies to get attention. Quit puking your bullshiat all over us, and take what is left of your idiotic family and GTFO of our Continent. We don't want you here, Go be stupid and felonious somewhere else. Don't worry about your other boy, the Feds will take good care of him I'm sure.


Not saying it is right, but parents are gonna look at their kids through rose colored glasses...moms are gonna protect teh babies
 
2013-04-21 09:13:50 PM  
Cream of Meat:


Bergdorf Goodman
Neiman Marcus
Saks 5th
Barneys
Bloomy
Nords
Lord & Taylor
Dillard's
Macys
Marshalls
TJ Maxx

Penny's
Kohl's
Target
Sears
K-Mart
Walmart

So many more...

My quick ranking....sure I'm missing a lot
 
2013-04-21 09:22:42 PM  

Lord Summerisle: Isn't it scary and oppressive how many CCTV cameras there are on US streets?


Private cameras....nothing govt run. You think that's scary? Haha.

I'm sure I won't be the first one to point out that the finish line was in a major retail area, so, there are lots of private security cameras for only that reason right there. But most of the pictures that made the mefia were from individuals, private sources.


The army of police in military uniform putting an entire city under virtual house arrest to chase one scrawny kid was a tad worrying too.
P


See, that's the thing about Boston police. While townies don't always hold every cop in high esteem, Boston is such a small place, relatively, that we know the cops, or know someone who knows a cop. SO, when we're asked to stay indoors to help the cops catch the assholes who blew up our own folks, we do it...nobody forces us. And yea, visiting people like the Chinese grad student are ours too.


Feeling free, yanks?

Yea, and freer than you'll ever feel.
 
2013-04-21 09:29:02 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cream of Meat:


Bergdorf Goodman
Neiman Marcus
Saks 5th
Barneys
Bloomy
Nords
Lord & Taylor
Talbott's
Dillard's
Macys
Marshalls
TJ Maxx
Penny's
Kohl's
Target
Sears
K-Mart
Walmart

So many more...

My quick ranking....sure I'm missing a lot

 
2013-04-21 09:29:53 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Lord Summerisle: Isn't it scary and oppressive how many CCTV cameras there are on US streets?

Private cameras....nothing govt run. You think that's scary? Haha.

I'm sure I won't be the first one to point out that the finish line was in a major retail area, so, there are lots of private security cameras for only that reason right there. But most of the pictures that made the mefia were from individuals, private sources.


The army of police in military uniform putting an entire city under virtual house arrest to chase one scrawny kid was a tad worrying too.
P

See, that's the thing about Boston police. While townies don't always hold every cop in high esteem, Boston is such a small place, relatively, that we know the cops, or know someone who knows a cop. SO, when we're asked to stay indoors to help the cops catch the assholes who blew up our own folks, we do it...nobody forces us. And yea, visiting people like the Chinese grad student are ours too.


Feeling free, yanks?

Yea, and freer than you'll ever feel.


Meh. Don't listen to him. How Boston held it together and came together for the lockdown was nothing short of amazing. Especially when compared to the clusterfark that was Southern California's version when Donner was running around shooting cops. Boston was a textbook example of doing everything right. You should be proud.
 
2013-04-21 09:30:19 PM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


It was a BMW, and the answer is, you make the payments, usually by having your priorities screwed up.

Did you see the photos of the apartment the brothers lived in? Trashy, with a piece of plywood serving as a door. Basically a flophouse. Kid decided to spend his money (probably $350-$500/month) on a flashy car rather than a nice place to live. Those payments are certainly affordable by a single guy who doesn't have other bills to speak of. Lots of people do it. I've known many people who complained about how much debt they're in yet drove an expensive car.
 
2013-04-21 09:31:39 PM  
Thanks Democrats!
 
2013-04-21 09:31:45 PM  

mekki: Boston was a textbook example of doing everything right. You should be proud.


Heil Hitler.
 
2013-04-21 09:36:55 PM  

Lord Summerisle: The army of police in military uniform putting an entire city under virtual house arrest to chase one scrawny kid was a tad worrying too.


This concerned me at first, but really, it wasn't an order that was enforced. Nobody was arrested for being outside, for example.

Anyway, there are precedents - when a hurricane hits a city, the governor/mayor will give an evacuation order to the citizens. They can choose to go along with it, or not. Many who didn't comply when Katrina hit either died or had to have their asses bailed out by rescue workers.

And it wasn't just to chase a scrawny kid. Think about what happened here - they had killed a police officer, stolen a car, and engaged in a pretty heavy gun battle in a neighborhood which involved the throwing of motherfarking BOMBS, and one of them was still at large in the area. This is obviously a dangerous sort of situation and I think asking residents in the area to stay put wasn't too unreasonable.

As for door to door searches for the guy, and whether police entered homes without consent - I haven't heard enough reports yet about how that went down. In all likelihood the police, when asked, met little resistance from people allowing them to search their homes (because, as we know, nobody was harboring the guy). I don't know if anyone resisted and what would have happened if they did. If someone declined to allow police inside and they barged in anyway, then, well, that's concerning.
 
2013-04-21 09:51:33 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Maybe even C-Span caller nuts.


I wondered if I've ever heard any Farkers on C-SPAN, but yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
 
2013-04-21 09:54:41 PM  

andychrist420: White hat, currently in the hospital, is a citizen as of the last year or so. The dead one wasn't a citizen, but that's a moot point now anyway.


OK. Looked like the time frames weren't quite lining up for either of them to be elligible yet....OK, the FBI investigation slowed down black hat.
 
2013-04-21 09:57:08 PM  

FrancoFile: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cream of Meat:


Bergdorf Goodman
Neiman Marcus
Saks 5th
Barneys
Bloomy
Nords
Lord & Taylor
Talbott's
Dillard's
Macys

Carson Pirie Scott
Marshalls
TJ Maxx
Penny's
Kohl's
Target
Sears

Meijer
K-Mart
Walmart

So many more...

My quick ranking....sure I'm missing a lot
 
2013-04-21 10:21:49 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Lord and Taylowned


That was funny.

Thieves are scum, and child killers are subhuman scum.

Sounds like a flawed line of DNA, and it gets worse each generation.  I vote it is terminated.
 
2013-04-21 10:23:51 PM  
I only shop at Alexander
 
2013-04-21 10:24:13 PM  

CarnySaur: WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?

Hey, you don't have to *live* like a refugee.


Pettyd.
 
2013-04-21 10:25:35 PM  

GungFu: enik: Oh hey thank god for all these immigrants bringing diversity to America.

[i190.photobucket.com image 550x283]


Go back over the land bridge between Asia and Alaska when the oceans were hundreds of feet lower 10 thousand years ago!

Is what I think he was going to say.
 
2013-04-21 10:49:46 PM  
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-21 11:40:28 PM  
Look at that, two psychopaths eying their dinner (you and me).
 
2013-04-21 11:43:05 PM  
Nobody told her there's a sale at Penney's?
 
2013-04-22 12:50:25 AM  

KarmicDisaster: Actually, Walmart is at the bottom., Sears is next, then Pennys.


Not really true. Sears has better tools than Penneys. Not that I ever looked. Craftsmen tools are not as good as they used to be but the return policy rocks.
 
2013-04-22 12:57:15 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mexican dude is wearing a cowboy hat, so he can stay. And no one gives a shiat about Asians, they rarely cause any problems. Islamic radicals from Eastern Europe, though, yeah, we could probably do with a few less of those.


But I don't like the Irish.

www.morethings.com
 
2013-04-22 01:02:35 AM  

luxup: You forgot to mention that immigrant in the hat gave his son, who died in battle serving this country so you can say dumb ass shiat like that.


Uh, I'm not sure he gave his son. His son was taken away.

But the rest still holds.
 
2013-04-22 01:03:21 AM  

skullkrusher: Lord and Taylor... Zachary Taylor was our 12th President. Taylor was a famous army leader. Dick Armey was a leader of FreedomWorks. FreedomWorks is a powerful tea party organization.... Do the math. Can't make this stuff up, folks.


If a dick army was chasing me I'd run like farking fast as not to get tea-bagged.
 
2013-04-22 02:25:45 AM  

mekki: Haliburton Cummings: you "Americans" all descend from the upchuck the rest of Europe didn't want and you stayed here by virtue of genocide. You are all immigrunts. stfu.

Please. No, we are descended from people who realized that "home" was a rat infested dump and had sense enough to get off our butts and move.

Can't argue on the genocide part though...considering all the immigrants came from countries where invading each others' borders was a hobby. A bloody hobby. But a hobby none the less.


Speak for yourself:

I'm of Irish, Cherokee, and Melungeon extraction (the latter being essentially an Appalachian metis community with Irish, Cherokee, and African-American ancestry...who generally passed as being the descendants of Portugese for a time).

A goodly chunk of my ancestors (all of whom arrived before the Potato Famine) may well have arrived to get the fark away from Ollie Cromwell et al and the ongoing persecution of Irish for being Entirely Too Damn Catholic (in Colonial times, there were literal progroms being conducted against Irish Catholics, and it's a persistent legend that (as far as Scottish folks go) that some of Bonnie Prince Charlie's men managed to make it to Appalachia and hide the hell out--and a fair number of folks of Celtic descent DID cross the Alleghenies illegally before 1776 in part to hide the hell out in the mountains).

A goodly chunk had been here for...well...since the Bering land bridge sunk...and a good portion of those hid the hell out in Appalachia or otherwise passed themselves off as "Black Irish" when the American government (and especially the government of Georgia) decided they REALLY wanted the gold in Dahlonega.  (This was, of course, after those ancestors had become thoroughly Westernised enough that even Europeans had to acknowledge that their nation and about four others were "civilised".)

And, well...in the Melungeon-descended side of the family I do have a number of relatives from around 1850 or so that have names that STRONGLY imply some variety of African-American ancestry (combined with a very stereotypical Melungeon last name)...seeing as the African-American part of the Melungeon stew consisted of either freedmen de jure or folks who freed themselves by running the hell away from the slavemasters and hiding the hell out in Appalachia...well...at least with those ancestors, I have a rather strong suspicion that they did not exactly come to the US voluntarily.

(Hell, it's even entirely possible the Irish part of the ancestry didn't come voluntarily, either; Irish were being used quite a bit as indentured servants, and Georgia was actually used in the Colonial period as a sort of proto-Australia prison colony.  There's actually surprisingly little documentation of Irish and Scottish migration to the US before the Big Migration with the potato famine.)

So in short:  One branch of my ancestry came over (a fark of a long time ago) because the mammoth hunting was apparently damn good around here, one branch came over shipped rather involuntarily on a boat as human cargo meant as the ultimate form of low-cost labour, and...the third, we're still not 100% sure, but it's an even chance that they either came here running for their lives from crazy fundamentalists or involuntarily under remarkably similar circumstances to the second branch (with just a bit more of "paying off a debt to the company store" sort of deal)...
 
2013-04-22 04:16:52 AM  
Good think this tragedy hasn't become a soapbox for racists to feel as though they can say their insane, long-discredited beliefs in broad daylight.  Hey, you know what's fun?  Having arguments over things that were settled during my parent's and grandparent's generation.  Yeah, that crap is loads of fun.
 
2013-04-22 05:25:39 AM  

WhippingBoy: Im confused about one thing: if these people were essentially refugees, how did a 19 year old kid afford a Mercedes?


The black SUV? That was carjacked from a 7-11
 
2013-04-22 05:28:29 AM  

Mock26: "Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended Bunker Hill Community College and was studying to become an engineer but took a year off to pursue boxing. He is a two-time Golden Glove champion"

was.


I don't follow sports so what is a golden glove? I looked it up and he was nowhere to be found on the Wikipedia page for the golden glove...
 
2013-04-22 06:11:00 AM  

skullkrusher: Cream of Meat: Arthur Jumbles: Alone in the Snark: Lord and Taylor is for the folks who think they're too posh to buy their clothes from Target, but don't have enough dough to shop at the really upscale chains like Saks.

Aspirational shoplifting FTW!

/Real Peopletm shop at Marshall's anyway
//No, you can't have a Wal-Mart in Beantown. Not yours.

What is the department store hierarchy? I'm assuming that K-Mart is at the bottom, followed by Walmart, Meijer, and Target. I suspect Sam's Club and Costco are next but afterwards I'm at a loss. Sears?

Bergdorf Goodman
Neiman Marcus
Saks 5th
Barneys
Bloomy
Nords
Lord & Taylor
Macys
Penny's
Target
Sears
K-Mart
Walmart


My quick ranking....sure I'm missing a lot

not bad. Maybe flip Nordstrom and Bloomingdale's but otherwise purty good, imo


I shop at Thrift Stores.
 
2013-04-22 08:06:54 AM  

fiveseven15: Mock26: "Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended Bunker Hill Community College and was studying to become an engineer but took a year off to pursue boxing. He is a two-time Golden Glove champion"

was.

I don't follow sports so what is a golden glove? I looked it up and he was nowhere to be found on the Wikipedia page for the golden glove...


Amateur boxing competition.
 
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