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(The New York Times)   Latest hipster parent trend: going diaper-less. 'The Onion' wishes it could make things up like: "diaper-free meetups, where parents exchange tips like how to get a baby to urinate on the street between parked cars   (nytimes.com) divider line 216
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2013-04-21 12:44:54 PM  
next trend.  going PENIS LESS
HERES THE KNIFE

www.amickssuperstore.com
 
2013-04-21 12:57:12 PM  
I remember hearing about this when my 11 yr old was a baby. 
I still think it's silly.
 
2013-04-21 01:07:24 PM  
Ugh, this is why I'm glad i'll never have kids. I don't have to remotely come into contact with these sick farks.
 
2013-04-21 01:13:49 PM  
I AM PARENT!  I have made BABBY!  You are NOT parent, you may not comment.  You WILL enjoy my babby's feces and urine.  You MUST!  Complaining about babby feces on your restaurant table makes you a BAD person!  How DARE you question the sanctity of my babby's feces and urine?  You should be arrested for disliking feces and urine, you hateful horrible person!  I am Parent- I have SPOKEN!
 
2013-04-21 01:19:33 PM  
But "elimination communication," as the diaper-free method of child-rearing is called, is finding an audience in the hipper precincts of New York City.
Ms. Shapiro, who is a doula, a birth and child-rearing coach, says it is practically now a job qualification to at least be able to offer diaper-free training as an option to clients. Caribou Baby, an "eco-friendly maternity, baby and lifestyle store" on the border of artsy Greenpoint and Williamsburg,


And that's the point where I stopped reading.
 
2013-04-21 01:21:12 PM  
This is anti-vax level of derp right here...
 
2013-04-21 01:37:14 PM  
I actually appreciate this.... it means the stupid shiate that I do with my baby will not even register

/Disposable diapers - we have the tech
/Baby is Vax'd too...
/Still a dumbshiate with kids... doing what I can
 
2013-04-21 01:56:49 PM  
Ms. Shapiro scattered little bowls around the house to catch her daughter's offerings, and her sister insisted that she use a big, dark marker to mark the bowls so that they could never find their way back to the kitchen.

ugh, gross
 
2013-04-21 03:49:35 PM  
You have got to be shiatting me.
 
2013-04-21 04:03:31 PM  
I don't really care so long as they collect the shiat afterward with a pooper-scooper, or a bag, or something.

If not, it's as annoying as dog-walkers who neglect the same, at least in a city.
 
2013-04-21 04:09:04 PM  
I haven't used a toilet in years. That smell isn't coming from the sewer, it's from my backyard.
 
2013-04-21 04:09:55 PM  
Still can't leave them tied to a parking meter while you get coffee, tho...
 
2013-04-21 04:10:35 PM  
Eh, I can respect the "reduce waste" part of it.
I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't have any negative effects on the kid.
 
2013-04-21 04:11:30 PM  
This is normal in most of China.

Also, is there a vaccination available yet for the overwhelming desire to somehow be different and unique in a ridiculous fashion for no good reason whatsoever? How about this, you want to be different so bad, here comes the magical make-you-special genie *POOF* you've farking got scoliosis and 6 fingers on one hand, are you happy now?
 
2013-04-21 04:12:03 PM  
You used to be cool, Brooklyn
 
2013-04-21 04:13:03 PM  
One of the few reasons I like living in a red state. I get to avoid new age hippie bullshiatile this.
 
2013-04-21 04:13:10 PM  
Again, proving that Asians are the trendiest of all hipsters. They were cutting slits in their baby's trousers before you Brooklyn-ites ever dreamed of this diaperless crap.
 
2013-04-21 04:13:11 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.

Also, is there a vaccination available yet for the overwhelming desire to somehow be different and unique in a ridiculous fashion for no good reason whatsoever? How about this, you want to be different so bad, here comes the magical make-you-special genie *POOF* you've farking got scoliosis and 6 fingers on one hand, are you happy now?


Which is exactly the forward-thinking ecological paradise we should be emulating.
 
2013-04-21 04:13:23 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: next trend.  going PENIS LESS
HERES THE KNIFE

[www.amickssuperstore.com image 500x250]


I never need to question why I have you tagged as "idiot".
 
2013-04-21 04:13:34 PM  

Fark It: But "elimination communication," as the diaper-free method of child-rearing is called, is finding an audience in the hipper precincts of New York City.
Ms. Shapiro, who is a doula, a birth and child-rearing coach, says it is practically now a job qualification to at least be able to offer diaper-free training as an option to clients. Caribou Baby, an "eco-friendly maternity, baby and lifestyle store" on the border of artsy Greenpoint and Williamsburg,

And that's the point where I stopped reading.


Let me just say that there are times I am very, very glad I live in the Midwest.

That shiat literally wouldn't fly here.
 
2013-04-21 04:14:25 PM  
Couple of strategically placed clothes pins(more for girls), bam:  No need for a diaper.
 
2013-04-21 04:14:43 PM  

zulius: This is anti-vax level of derp right here...


Now now, nothing is anti-vax level of derp.
 
2013-04-21 04:15:10 PM  
DRTFA, but when it was time for my kids to be potty trained, this is the way the wife did it. Worked like a charm, but she only did it around the house. Only one or two accidents and the kid is trained.

Now, babbies just shiatting and pissing everywhere? WTFBBQ?
 
2013-04-21 04:15:23 PM  
This has always been a thing. I remember a neighbor kid being raised in this fashion. Naked Nathan, everyone called him, because weather permitting, that's what he was.

When they moved away, when he was twelve, he was still Naked Nathan.
 
2013-04-21 04:15:43 PM  
Young moms seem hell-bent to make child-rearing as complicated as possible.

I wonder if we made it illegal to post about your screwball child-rearing policies on Facebook, how many people would just go back to Pampers, baby formula, and de rigeur circumcision?
 
2013-04-21 04:15:54 PM  

Dragonflew: Jon iz teh kewl: next trend.  going PENIS LESS
HERES THE KNIFE

[www.amickssuperstore.com image 500x250]

I never need to question why I have you tagged as "idiot".


I've got him as 'creepy/pervy'. You should see him in a rape thread.
 
2013-04-21 04:16:38 PM  
Did anyone mention yet that shiatting and pissing in the street is not eco-friendly?

I thought we figured that out when we stopped dumping our night pots out the window.
 
2013-04-21 04:16:49 PM  
No.
 
2013-04-21 04:16:56 PM  

namegoeshere: This has always been a thing. I remember a neighbor kid being raised in this fashion. Naked Nathan, everyone called him, because weather permitting, that's what he was.

When they moved away, when he was twelve, he was still Naked Nathan.


Which shooting spree was his, again?
 
GBB
2013-04-21 04:17:13 PM  
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-21 04:17:18 PM  
Ms. Shapiro scattered little bowls around the house to catch her daughter's offerings

Offerings.

Offerings?

Really?  Offerings?

It's only considered an offering if someone else might want it.  Otherwise it's refuse.  Waste.  Discarded.

/I hate people sometimes
 
2013-04-21 04:17:49 PM  
For that lady in the first articles first pics sake, I hope that kid is a girl. If a boy... enjoy your faceful of golden shower.

/ on second thought, I hope it is a boy
 
2013-04-21 04:18:03 PM  
Aww, the Littlest Sex Offender.
 
2013-04-21 04:18:13 PM  
So when they're in their crib do they just piss and sh*t all over themselves?

If you propped your boy baby on the toilet like the kid in the article--he'd pee all over the wall and toilet tank. If he did that in public--are you a responsible enough parent to clean up the mess? I bet not. I think people like this are likely to be "me-firsters".

Want to raise your crotchfruit like a monkey? Then go live in the rain forest.
 
2013-04-21 04:18:13 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.


Yep. Kids just wear pants with a little slit cut in the crotch, and shiat or piss whenever and wherever they need.  Adults spit everywhere, chew with their mouths open, slurp their soup, stand on toilet seats and cut in lines.
 
2013-04-21 04:18:36 PM  
Elimination communication; because diaper hyena is sooo last week.
 
2013-04-21 04:19:04 PM  

bboy: Young moms seem hell-bent to make child-rearing as complicated as possible.

I wonder if we made it illegal to post about your screwball child-rearing policies on Facebook, how many people would just go back to Pampers, baby formula, and de rigeur circumcision?


Cat's out of the bag. Circumcision is now considered "child abuse" in some European jurisdictions.
 
2013-04-21 04:19:13 PM  
Paging BarkingUnicorn to the baby poop thread...
 
2013-04-21 04:19:21 PM  
New York you say. Why exactly does Florida have its own tag and New York does not?

Also living in New York these folks-The Year Without Toilet Paper

And to make you really feel good they get to vote just like sane people.
 
2013-04-21 04:19:45 PM  

Mister Peejay: namegoeshere: This has always been a thing. I remember a neighbor kid being raised in this fashion. Naked Nathan, everyone called him, because weather permitting, that's what he was.

When they moved away, when he was twelve, he was still Naked Nathan.

Which shooting spree was his, again?


Wait for it...
 
2013-04-21 04:20:34 PM  
Using the streets as open sewers and not vaccinating your kids. Welcome to medieval times.
 
2013-04-21 04:20:47 PM  

Bondith: Ms. Shapiro scattered little bowls around the house to catch her daughter's offerings

Offerings.

Offerings?

Really?  Offerings?

It's only considered an offering if someone else might want it.  Otherwise it's refuse.  Waste.  Discarded.

/I hate people sometimes


Yeah, that made me grit my teeth, too.
 
2013-04-21 04:20:58 PM  
"They are more popular among older, affluent parents in larger cities, and can charge up to $1,000 for three visits (before, during and after birth).[7] "

"There is a lack of standardization and oversight of doulas, with multiple organizations providing different courses with varying requirements. There is no formal or universally recognized certification process or training requirements, and anyone can refer to themselves as a doula.[5] No academic credentials such as a college or university diploma, or high school equivalency are required.[7] In contrast, in the United States a certified nurse-midwife can deliver a baby outside of a hospital and without doctor's assistance but is a conventionally trained nurse who has undergone an extra one to two years of training.[7]
Doulas do not require or receive any medical training.[7] In North America training generally takes the form of a two to three day seminar, and some experience with childbirth."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doula
 
2013-04-21 04:21:11 PM  
Words can't quite describe the look on my face when I was reading that.  If you want to reduce waste, why not use cloth nappies like people used for centuries?  They can be washed and reused, instead of buying a small country's GDP worth of disposable diapers.  I don't see how letting your child urinate and defecate all over the place is preferable to buying so many boxes of Huggies, you're considered a stockholder.
 
2013-04-21 04:21:32 PM  
If you want to let your overdeveloped sperm shot run around and piss and schitt all over your house, then go ahead and do so.  But, if you are going to go out in public then put a damned diaper on the brat.  Oh, and I really do hope that cops start issuing tickets to the parents if they catch them having their brats go to the bathroom out in public.
 
2013-04-21 04:21:55 PM  
This is happening in public in NYC. At least nobody will notice the smell.
 
2013-04-21 04:23:01 PM  
FTFA:

Parents are drawn to the method as a way of preserving the environment from the ravages of disposable diapers...

Fair point, but what's the environmental impact of dealing with the sanitary issues from having kids defecate all over the place? To be more specific, if this parenting method results in people getting sick more often, the environmental costs of combatting the sickness could be greater than the diapers?

It just reminds me of people buying those reusable shopping bags where more oil goes into their creation than several hundred plastic bags.
 
2013-04-21 04:24:03 PM  
Why no officer, I am not drunk. I was raised to crap on the street...
 
2013-04-21 04:24:31 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.


There are a lot of things that are normal in china that are frowned upon in civilized societies, and for good reason.
 
2013-04-21 04:24:39 PM  
Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).
 
2013-04-21 04:24:50 PM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: Again, proving that Asians are the trendiest of all hipsters. They were cutting slits in their baby's trousers before you Brooklyn-ites ever dreamed of this diaperless crap.


Sometimes for highly dubious reasons.
 
2013-04-21 04:25:53 PM  

thornhill: FTFA:

Parents are drawn to the method as a way of preserving the environment from the ravages of disposable diapers...

Fair point, but what's the environmental impact of dealing with the sanitary issues from having kids defecate all over the place? To be more specific, if this parenting method results in people getting sick more often, the environmental costs of combatting the sickness could be greater than the diapers?

It just reminds me of people buying those reusable shopping bags where more oil goes into their creation than several hundred plastic bags.


Socialize the risk, privatize the reward.
 
2013-04-21 04:26:11 PM  

hasty ambush: New York you say. Why exactly does Florida have its own tag and New York does not?


Because most of the shiatheads that do this kind of stuff here only got to NY a few months ago after leaving any of the various flyover states.
 
2013-04-21 04:26:14 PM  
If your kid is old enough to know when they need to go, they are old enough to hold it in while you whisk them to the toilet.
 
2013-04-21 04:26:40 PM  

namegoeshere: Did anyone mention yet that shiatting and pissing in the street is not eco-friendly?

I thought we figured that out when we stopped dumping our night pots out the window.


We what now?
 
2013-04-21 04:27:30 PM  

res_nihil: Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).


At least you're flushing the dirty water away to a wastewater treatment facility, instead of bundling fecal material into a hermetically-sealed shiatbomb to be buried in a local landfill.
 
2013-04-21 04:27:42 PM  
I would bet money the first item of clothing ever evented by cavemen was the diaper because they were smart enough to realize a small, mobile poop machine was a bad thing.  Congratulations, hipsters, you failed at something so easy even a caveman could do it.
 
2013-04-21 04:28:02 PM  

bboy: Young moms seem hell-bent to make child-rearing as complicated as possible.

I wonder if we made it illegal to post about your screwball child-rearing policies on Facebook, how many people would just go back to Pampers, baby formula, and de rigeur circumcision?


Oh boy, don't turn this into a circumcision thread.
 
2013-04-21 04:29:20 PM  

res_nihil: Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).


Flush the solids, soak diapers in a bucket with detergent until you're ready to wash.
 
GBB
2013-04-21 04:29:21 PM  
If they were truely eco-friendly, they'd be using their baby fertilizer in their urban orgainic vegetable garden.
 
2013-04-21 04:29:28 PM  
The first time my baby daughter pooped I threw my hands up and walked away forever. Best decision of my life ... totally dodged a bullet there.
 
2013-04-21 04:30:01 PM  

LemSkroob: FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.

There are a lot of things that are normal in china that are frowned upon in civilized societies, and for good reason.


Like chocolate that's 50% paraffin.
 
2013-04-21 04:30:57 PM  

GBB: If they were truely eco-friendly, they'd be using their baby fertilizer in their urban orgainic vegetable garden.


So are you mulching the baby or composting?
 
2013-04-21 04:32:22 PM  
Also, "free elimination" is fine when you're a small village of 150 people and you don't care about hookworm, giardia, cholera and other fun parasites. You won't overload the local environment's ability to deal with the waste, unless there's a flood or something. Sure, it's not "natural" for children to wear diapers, but it's not "natural" for humans to live in communities of over 1000 people, if history is any indication. Any number greater than that and you might want to start giving some forethought about where and how you deal with waste.
 
2013-04-21 04:33:01 PM  

theorellior: hermetically-sealed shiatbomb


Hermetically-sealed shiatbomb would be a great name for a punk band.
 
2013-04-21 04:33:45 PM  
I actually heard about this several years ago.  I thought it was stupid then, and it's still stupid.

I'm guessing these are people who wonder why their childless friends stopped coming by.
 
2013-04-21 04:34:17 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: GBB: If they were truely eco-friendly, they'd be using their baby fertilizer in their urban orgainic vegetable garden.

So are you mulching the baby or composting?


Nein. Der human scheisse iz verboten.
 
2013-04-21 04:36:44 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.

Also, is there a vaccination available yet for the overwhelming desire to somehow be different and unique in a ridiculous fashion for no good reason whatsoever? How about this, you want to be different so bad, here comes the magical make-you-special genie *POOF* you've farking got scoliosis and 6 fingers on one hand, are you happy now?


You know what is also normal in China?

Bird flu.

The Indians dump their dead into the Ganges river,  which they they also drink from, fish in, and dump their sewage into as well.

Just because it's normal somewhere else does not mean it's acceptable here.
 
2013-04-21 04:37:16 PM  
There is a "two girls and a cup" joke here somewhere....
 
2013-04-21 04:37:30 PM  
fluffy2097:

The Indians dump their dead into the Ganges river,  which they they also drink from, fish in, and dump their sewage into as well.

And look what happened when the zombie virus broke out.
 
2013-04-21 04:38:47 PM  
Bowls? Aww. I was hoping they put old newspaper down on the floor, and trained the babies like they would puppies.

/What's that, Junior? You need to go out?
//Let's get your leash!
 
2013-04-21 04:40:09 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: namegoeshere: Did anyone mention yet that shiatting and pissing in the street is not eco-friendly?

I thought we figured that out when we stopped dumping our night pots out the window.

We what now?


Back before indoor plumbing was a big thing, when you might have 1 toilet for an entire floor of tenements, people had things called chamber pots. You do your buisness in the chamberpot and dump it out the window in the morning, rather then wander though your building half naked in the middle of the night looking for the toilet.
 
2013-04-21 04:40:46 PM  
And if this is how they deal with literal shiat, then I can only imagine the brilliant insights they have in other areas of child rearing.
 
2013-04-21 04:42:15 PM  

LemSkroob: hasty ambush: New York you say. Why exactly does Florida have its own tag and New York does not?

Because most of the shiatheads that do this kind of stuff here only got to NY a few months ago after leaving any of the various flyover states.


Available information seems to indicate that Jada Shapiro has livedin NY for a long time

Data would seem to indicate more people are leaving NY not moving there:

Link

Link

Link
 
2013-04-21 04:43:30 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.


Does anyone wonder why the yearly pandemic comes out of China?
 
2013-04-21 04:44:19 PM  
Where I live, landfill space is so far down the list of environmental concerns, and water resources is the #1 problem, so yeah, I'll go with the disposable diapers. In NY, I'd imagine there is plenty of water, and not so much landfill space, so I can see where cloth might be more eco-friendly there.

No diaper is not an option in civilized society.  Sorry, we quit pissing wherever we wanted generations ago, and are better off for it.
 
2013-04-21 04:44:25 PM  
If I went to a friend's house and the floor was covered in bowls and the kid was running around naked and the bowls were for kid crap, I'd have one less friend.

If I went to my car and there was a parent getting his kid to crap between my car and another, I would have some words to say, mainly to the police officer who responded to my call and the photos taken of the parent and kid who crapped between my car and someone else's.  If dog owners have to clean up after their dogs, these parents should be doing the same exact thing.
 
2013-04-21 04:46:00 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Eh, I can respect the "reduce waste" part of it.
I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't have any negative effects on the kid.


They can reduce it already by using cloth diapers, but apparently even washing them is too wasteful. If they've got the extra time to do this then good for them, but I think most people have to make a compromise somewhere.
 
2013-04-21 04:47:29 PM  
Oh Good Lord!
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-21 04:47:39 PM  
Well, these are the same types of people who tether their children to leashes; basically treat their children like domesticated pets.  So it's not really much of a surprise when they treat their child's bowel movements as nothing more than common dog droppings.
 
2013-04-21 04:48:00 PM  
"But mostly, they say, they like feeling more in touch with their babies' most intimate functions. "

Lock up every one of those pedos.

"I have absolutely been at parties and witnessed people putting their baby over the sink," she said. One client took her baby and her bowl to a party, held her naked baby over the bowl, "and she just did it at this person's party in the corner, but obviously they were close friends," Ms. Shapiro said.

GTFO of my house.
 
2013-04-21 04:51:33 PM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: Well, these are the same types of people who tether their children to leashes; basically treat their children like domesticated pets.  So it's not really much of a surprise when they treat their child's bowel movements as nothing more than common dog droppings.


So I guess we're going to be amending this sign shortly:

www.dogpoopsigns.com

/hell, they might as well allow the Golden Retriever to raise the kid
//couldn't do worse than the bio-parents
 
2013-04-21 04:51:45 PM  
Among some US parents, it is not uncommon to let kids who are near the potty training age to play without bottoms with a potty nearby in the hope they may use it. Often kids from 2 or more families are involved and it helps if one of the kids preforms correctly and can serve as a roll model.

The article seems more of an every day thing as seen in China.

www.chinese-traditions-and-culture.com
 
2013-04-21 04:54:16 PM  

HairBolus: The article seems more of an every day thing as seen in China.



You know what is also normal in China?
Bird flu, and smog so thick you cant see more then 5 city blocks.

Lets aspire to be ABOVE china yeah?
 
2013-04-21 04:54:19 PM  

GBB: If they were truely eco-friendly, they'd be using their baby fertilizer in their urban orgainic vegetable garden.


And while they are at it, they can use as much "biosolids" as they can, so it stays off my food.

http://water.epa.gov/polwaste/wastewater/treatment/biosolids/genqa.c fm
 
2013-04-21 04:54:49 PM  

skullkrusher: You used to be cool, Brooklyn


I used to live in brooklyn, thankfully it was bay ridge.
 
2013-04-21 04:55:45 PM  

HairBolus: Among some US parents, it is not uncommon to let kids who are near the potty training age to play without bottoms with a potty nearby in the hope they may use it. Often kids from 2 or more families are involved and it helps if one of the kids preforms correctly and can serve as a roll model.

The article seems more of an every day thing as seen in China.

[www.chinese-traditions-and-culture.com image 208x242]


Okay, if they're near potty training age, that makes a certain amount of sense. But it still seems different, somehow, than dodging turd bowls in the kitchen.
 
2013-04-21 04:55:50 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: "But mostly, they say, they like feeling more in touch with their babies' most intimate functions. "

Lock up every one of those pedos.

"I have absolutely been at parties and witnessed people putting their baby over the sink," she said. One client took her baby and her bowl to a party, held her naked baby over the bowl, "and she just did it at this person's party in the corner, but obviously they were close friends," Ms. Shapiro said.

GTFO of my house.


Speaking of, if a cop catches you letting your kid piss in public, are you going to get arrested and put on the sex offender registry?
 
2013-04-21 04:57:06 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: "I have absolutely been at parties and witnessed people putting their baby over the sink," she said. One client took her baby and her bowl to a party, held her naked baby over the bowl, "and she just did it at this person's party in the corner, but obviously they were close friends," Ms. Shapiro said.


Saw something similar in Beijing once; a father holding his toddler by the hands and feet over a trashcan so the kid could pee. This was in a grocery store, btw.

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, Chinese toddlers often wear pants with open crotches:
upload.wikimedia.org

/saw similar things in the army
//but those were adults peeing in the sink
///farking country hicks
 
2013-04-21 04:57:51 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

/first thing I thought of
 
Esn
2013-04-21 04:58:40 PM  
This is not new. It was a trend in my parents' time as well (late Soviet period).
 
2013-04-21 05:01:14 PM  
I found crate training to be far more effective.
 
2013-04-21 05:03:43 PM  

Marine1: bboy: Young moms seem hell-bent to make child-rearing as complicated as possible.

I wonder if we made it illegal to post about your screwball child-rearing policies on Facebook, how many people would just go back to Pampers, baby formula, and de rigeur circumcision?

Cat's out of the bag. Circumcision is now considered "child abuse" in some European jurisdictions.


Fun or not so fun fact. One way the nazis deternined whether or not you were a jew was to check out your junk and see if you were circumsised or not.
 
2013-04-21 05:04:15 PM  
Yes, let's all make fun of the only people trying to get rid of the huge problem of diapers in landfills.
 
2013-04-21 05:06:23 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: Yes, let's all make fun of the only people trying to get rid of the huge problem of diapers in landfills.


No one here is making fun of those who want to use cloth diapers.  We're making fun of the parents who think that letting their kids piss and crap in the street, like a dog, is acceptable.
 
2013-04-21 05:06:38 PM  

res_nihil: Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).


We used cloth, and the waste savings was astounding, I think. Our neighbors had a kid the same age as our son, and they used disposables, and I know they threw away bags and bags of diapers. I threw the bag of diapers in the washer every other day. Our HE washer on the small load setting uses 15 gallons of water. We used a small amount of detergent, a little bit of electricity for the washer, a small amount of gas for heating the water; they air dried quickly overnight. The difference in cost with our utility bills was negligible, so it can't have been much. The cost was dramatically less using cloth, and I felt good about not throwing disposable diapers into the landfill. I think that even creating a little extra wastewater is probably better than the plastic garbage bags filled with plastic diapers filled with human waste.
 
2013-04-21 05:06:49 PM  
Only if I can do the same at their place
 
2013-04-21 05:07:45 PM  

buzzcut73: Where I live, landfill space is so far down the list of environmental concerns, and water resources is the #1 problem, so yeah, I'll go with the disposable diapers. In NY, I'd imagine there is plenty of water, and not so much landfill space, so I can see where cloth might be more eco-friendly there.


We are in the opposite situation; we live next to a river. No water problem here.
 
2013-04-21 05:08:27 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: Yes, let's all make fun of the only people trying to get rid of the huge problem of diapers in landfills.


no let's make fun of the people who are too lazy or cheap to use cloth diapers.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:10 PM  

Canton: Bowls? Aww. I was hoping they put old newspaper down on the floor, and trained the babies like they would puppies.

/What's that, Junior? You need to go out?
//Let's get your leash!


and when they miss, rub their nose in it and whack them with a rolled up newspaper...

keep a spray bottle handy in case they start to get the notion to pee or spray where they are not supposed to, or try to get up on the counter.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:48 PM  
you've got to me sh*tting me.
 
2013-04-21 05:11:54 PM  
I'm not even going to attempt to be clever or funny in my response to this news article.

This is stupid.
 
2013-04-21 05:14:27 PM  

HairBolus: Among some US parents, it is not uncommon to let kids who are near the potty training age to play without bottoms with a potty nearby in the hope they may use it. Often kids from 2 or more families are involved and it helps if one of the kids preforms correctly and can serve as a roll model.

The article seems more of an every day thing as seen in China.

[www.chinese-traditions-and-culture.com image 208x242]


Because China is a model for sanitary living conditions?
 
2013-04-21 05:17:12 PM  

res_nihil: Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).


The scientific consensus is that cloth v. dispoable diapers are roughly equal in environmental impacts, overall. Like two different meals with the same number of calories.  It's just a matter of preference.
 
2013-04-21 05:17:49 PM  

Feral_and_Preposterous: So when they're in their crib do they just piss and sh*t all over themselves?


Apparently one of the parents is hovering over the child 24 hours a day.
 
2013-04-21 05:19:05 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: "I have absolutely been at parties and witnessed people putting their baby over the sink," she said. One client took her baby and her bowl to a party, held her naked baby over the bowl, "and she just did it at this person's party in the corner, but obviously they were close friends," Ms. Shapiro said.

GTFO of my house.


What I wanna know is, if you've got the time to go put baby over the sink, why not just hold baby over the TOILET already?

Meanwhile I can kinda see the appeal of the communication thing. I mean, I'm lazy, so if I managed to recognize when the kid was going to poop/pee and whisk the kid off to the bathroom, off with the diaper, put her on the toilet - great, saves a diaper (we used cloth, so just put it back on like pants) plus one soiled diaper change. Win win. I've done this babysitting, anyway (with a slightly older kid though, not an infant).

But to not put diapers on the kid at all, that's just waaaaaayyyyyy too risky unless yeah, your plan is the kid just poops/pees wherever.  At which point, keep it to your own yard, plz.

HairBolus: The article seems more of an every day thing as seen in China.


Yeah, but look at that kid - old enough to walk around and play.  Surely that's more about not having to remove clothes than anything else?  If there was a toilet at the park rather than a tree, the kid could go in there?  If 3 month old babies are wearing split pants, how are they avoiding just peeing where they are and parents not getting there in time?

Also, ARE little infant babies wearing split pants?  In Japan from a long time ago babies wore/wear "diapers," not really anything specialize but cloth (rags from old clothes, etc) tied down there that got washed. Older kids could do the squat thing, no need for split pants though since the traditional wear is already open on the bottom.
 
2013-04-21 05:19:46 PM  
Hearing about this is what probably set off the Tsarnaev brothers.

/too soon?
 
2013-04-21 05:22:05 PM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Hearing about this is what probably set off the Tsarnaev brothers.

/too soon?


nah, just not funny
 
2013-04-21 05:24:07 PM  

pyrotek85: BarkingUnicorn: "But mostly, they say, they like feeling more in touch with their babies' most intimate functions. "

Lock up every one of those pedos.

"I have absolutely been at parties and witnessed people putting their baby over the sink," she said. One client took her baby and her bowl to a party, held her naked baby over the bowl, "and she just did it at this person's party in the corner, but obviously they were close friends," Ms. Shapiro said.

GTFO of my house.

Speaking of, if a cop catches you letting your kid piss in public, are you going to get arrested and put on the sex offender registry?


Mom fined $2500 for letting toddler pee in front yard

Cop who wrote the ticket was fired a couple months later for it.
 
2013-04-21 05:25:29 PM  
The other day I looked out the window and saw some lady letting her ugly-ass baby pee on my mailbox. Or maybe it was a dog. It's obnoxious either way.
 
2013-04-21 05:27:52 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Mom fined $2500 for letting toddler pee in front yard

Cop who wrote the ticket was fired a couple months later for it.


Heh. While I think it's unsightly I'm inclined to let her do what she wants on her own property. I wonder if it would have been different on public property though.
 
2013-04-21 05:31:16 PM  
My neighbor in colombia has a four year old who who would run around my condos common area who whould drop trou and poop and piss and the parents thought it was adorable until I scooped up the kids creation and put it on his doormat.He called the police on me too file a complaint and the cops showed with the colombian version of child protective services and the health department
 
2013-04-21 05:31:45 PM  
"Why is that bowl on the floor?"

"It's for shiatting"

"Thanks, don't mind if I do"
 
2013-04-21 05:31:54 PM  

fluffy2097: FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.

Also, is there a vaccination available yet for the overwhelming desire to somehow be different and unique in a ridiculous fashion for no good reason whatsoever? How about this, you want to be different so bad, here comes the magical make-you-special genie *POOF* you've farking got scoliosis and 6 fingers on one hand, are you happy now?

You know what is also normal in China?

Bird flu.

The Indians dump their dead into the Ganges river,  which they they also drink from, fish in, and dump their sewage into as well.

Just because it's normal somewhere else does not mean it's acceptable here.


To be fair a lot of places that don't use diapers don't have much food either so it kind of balances out.for them.
 
2013-04-21 05:32:07 PM  

LiberalEastCoastElitist: Feral_and_Preposterous: So when they're in their crib do they just piss and sh*t all over themselves?

Apparently one of the parents is hovering over the child 24 hours a day.


I swear, half the trendy parenting advice right now is setting feminism back 50 years. Why use a stroller when mum can carry the baby for two years? Why use diapers when mum can follow baby around 24-7 with a pooper scooper? Co-sleep! Extended breastfeeding! Don't even think about an epidural!  Make your own baby food from organic pureed lentils! Whatever you do, don't leave your baby's side, and don't even think about having fun!
 
2013-04-21 05:32:13 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: Yes, let's all make fun of the only people trying to get rid of the huge problem of diapers in landfills.


When you can say you never throw away anything made of plastic, polystyrene, or any other polymers, we'll listen.
 
2013-04-21 05:33:57 PM  

Fark It: But "elimination communication," as the diaper-free method of child-rearing is called, is finding an audience in the hipper precincts of New York City.
Ms. Shapiro, who is a doula, a birth and child-rearing coach, says it is practically now a job qualification to at least be able to offer diaper-free training as an option to clients. Caribou Baby, an "eco-friendly maternity, baby and lifestyle store" on the border of artsy Greenpoint and Williamsburg,

And that's the point where I stopped reading

eating

FTFY
 
2013-04-21 05:37:52 PM  
My wife was telling me about this elimination communication idiocy a couple years ago. I never looked it up but always just kind of figured that she was kidding about it. I should have known better.
 
2013-04-21 05:43:20 PM  

montreal_medic: I actually appreciate this.... it means the stupid shiate that I do with my baby will not even register

/Disposable diapers - we have the tech
/Baby is Vax'd too...
/Still a dumbshiate with kids... doing what I can


Disposable diapers are expensive, which is the only reason why I'm even considering it for when hubby and I form babby. I get a year off mat leave so it'll be easy to do it at home and save money.

Poo buckets around the house, NOPE! Diapers for going out too.

/over-privileged hipsters should just be honest, you're broke
 
2013-04-21 05:46:42 PM  

skullkrusher: You used to be cool, Brooklyn


That was before asshats started naming their kids Brooklyn
 
2013-04-21 05:49:22 PM  
I'm sure landlords everywhere will be more than understanding to learn that the shiat stains pockmarking their floors are, in fact, of human origin.  Maybe hipsters can upsell it as a new trend in interior design.
 
2013-04-21 05:50:09 PM  

Dogsbody: Elimination communication; because diaper hyena is sooo last week.


How's the cloth diaper obsession looking now?
 
2013-04-21 05:51:53 PM  
This is slightly appealing to me because although I like to spend money on fun stuff like booze and clothes, spending hard earned money on shiat bags to tie/strap onto babies seems like a waste. Why not just let them piss and crap in old Tupperware?
 
2013-04-21 05:53:36 PM  
shortymac:

/over-privileged hipsters should just be honest, you're broke

Well, which are they?
 
2013-04-21 05:54:01 PM  
i28.photobucket.com

I can see the cloth vs. plastic thing, but "oh, hell no!" to this.
 
2013-04-21 05:55:59 PM  

res_nihil: Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).


Yes they do. I had half as much garbage the first week I switched. My wallet (read: hubby) thanks me too. I definitely spent less on water than diapers. And yes, you just flush it.
 
2013-04-21 05:56:22 PM  
Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them

I think I get it.

40 is the new 30
30 is the new 20
20 is the new 10
10 is the new preschooler
Preschoolers are the new infants and expected to still shiat themselves.
Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.
 
2013-04-21 06:00:46 PM  

MNguy: shortymac:

/over-privileged hipsters should just be honest, you're broke

Well, which are they?


Their boomer parents have money and coddle them.

These folks, broke as shiat.
 
2013-04-21 06:02:09 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.


Says the grown up with the FARK handle from children's literature.
 
2013-04-21 06:04:17 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training?


Some kids are slow learners.

IIRC, mine needed only two weeks.  He thought it was mega-fun to shiat in a trainer potty.  Wasn't at all hesitant to let us know when he needed to go.  That's another reason I call him my BS:  "Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

And he still calls me, "Captain Daddy Sir" occasionally. :-)  Anyone else remember Bobobobs?
 
2013-04-21 06:04:21 PM  

Anastacya: bboy: Young moms seem hell-bent to make child-rearing as complicated as possible.

I wonder if we made it illegal to post about your screwball child-rearing policies on Facebook, how many people would just go back to Pampers, baby formula, and de rigeur circumcision?

Oh boy, don't turn this into a circumcision thread.


Yeah, we gotta nip this in the bud.
 
2013-04-21 06:06:48 PM  

Great Janitor: insertsnarkyusername: Yes, let's all make fun of the only people trying to get rid of the huge problem of diapers in landfills.

No one here is making fun of those who want to use cloth diapers.  We're making fun of the parents who think that letting their kids piss and crap in the street, like a dog, is acceptable.


An expected comment from the dude that has to clean that shiat up. Don't blame you though.
 
2013-04-21 06:07:22 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.


You sound single and bitter about it.
 
2013-04-21 06:07:26 PM  
Nope. I'll deal with changing diapers this winter. And my kid will be vaccinated.

/Due in November. In a state known for snowstorms. Oye ve.
 
2013-04-21 06:10:37 PM  

aevorea: Nope. I'll deal with changing diapers this winter. And my kid will be vaccinated.

/Due in November. In a state known for snowstorms. Oye ve.


Read Stephen King's Home Delivery. Just in case.

/srsly congrats
 
2013-04-21 06:14:00 PM  

jaytkay: "Why is that bowl on the floor?"

"It's for shiatting"

"Thanks, don't mind if I do"


I had a cat who would slink around and his tail would poof out the diameter of the rest of his body if he saw another cat in the yard.  Real scaredy-cat.

I always wondered what his reaction would have been if I took a dump in his litter box and covered it up.  "OMG WTF did this???"

I never did it, though, because humans poop in toilets.

/or outhouses
 
2013-04-21 06:14:49 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them

I think I get it.

40 is the new 30
30 is the new 20
20 is the new 10
10 is the new preschooler
Preschoolers are the new infants and expected to still shiat themselves.
Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.


Hey don't knock it. It keeps them from reproducing.
 
2013-04-21 06:15:45 PM  

Great Janitor: the photos taken of the parent and kid who crapped between my car and someone else's.


Actually, I'd think twice about taking pictures of someone else's 1-year-old making soft-serve in the gutter.  The police might interpret it the wrong way.
 
2013-04-21 06:20:08 PM  
1. That is nasty and unsanitary. Good way to spread disease
2. Isn't it illegal to piss in the street?
 
2013-04-21 06:21:37 PM  

Nick Nostril: Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them

I think I get it.

40 is the new 30
30 is the new 20
20 is the new 10
10 is the new preschooler
Preschoolers are the new infants and expected to still shiat themselves.
Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.

Hey don't knock it. It keeps them from reproducing.


that's why the age of consent should be moved to 28
 
2013-04-21 06:22:08 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.


Whatever you say there, children's book.
 
2013-04-21 06:22:27 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.


A)  This isn't China.  B)  The Chinese government is trying to stop it because it's unsanitary.
 
2013-04-21 06:28:13 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them

I think I get it.

40 is the new 30
30 is the new 20
20 is the new 10
10 is the new preschooler
Preschoolers are the new infants and expected to still shiat themselves.
Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.


My sister, when she had her first kid, didn't potty train her until she was well past her fourth birthday.  My sister just used the excuse of "I am a store manager, I have to work 60 hours a week, I don't have time to potty train my daughter."  Her husband didn't bother with it, he was too busy smoking pot all day and playing video games.  He hasn't had a job since Bill Clinton was president, but no time to actually potty train his daughter who he lives with.  My dad and stepmom were the ones who eventually potty trained her.  Sadly, my sister or her worthless husband saw nothing wrong at all with a girl who they just registered for Kindergarten still wearing diapers.

This was several years ago, the daughter is now 11 and they have another daughter who is about to finish up her first year of Kindergarten.  She didn't take quite so long to potty train.
 
2013-04-21 06:32:11 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Great Janitor: the photos taken of the parent and kid who crapped between my car and someone else's.

Actually, I'd think twice about taking pictures of someone else's 1-year-old making soft-serve in the gutter.  The police might interpret it the wrong way.


Yeah, I thought about that.  Angle the camera so that you can't see any infant genitals but still make it clear what is going on.  That way no one can see it and scream child porn, they can see it and scream "Who the hell thinks it's a good idea to let babies crap in the streets???"

Let your kid piss and crap between my car and someone else's and you'll be washing my car while I find the owner of the other car to let him/her know that you'll be washing their's also.
 
2013-04-21 06:32:31 PM  
It's not a trend or a fad or anything. It's another one of those stupid Times articles in which some asshole reporter heard from a friend of a friend that there are some bigger assholes in and around Brooklyn doing douchebaggy things. As evidence of the first part of that theory, the author's first name is Anemona. As evidence in support of the second part of that sentence, I submit that some asshole held her baby over a bowl at a party and let it piss and shiat itself in front of everyone there.
 
2013-04-21 06:32:48 PM  

Mister Peejay: jaytkay: "Why is that bowl on the floor?"

"It's for shiatting"

"Thanks, don't mind if I do"

I had a cat who would slink around and his tail would poof out the diameter of the rest of his body if he saw another cat in the yard.  Real scaredy-cat.

I always wondered what his reaction would have been if I took a dump in his litter box and covered it up.  "OMG WTF did this???"

I never did it, though, because humans poop in toilets.

/or outhouses


Or each other's mouths.
 
2013-04-21 06:33:11 PM  
Knew someone who adopted a little boy from Russia about 20 years ago.

The kid did this then.

It was called 'poverty'.
 
2013-04-21 06:35:43 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Great Janitor: the photos taken of the parent and kid who crapped between my car and someone else's.

Actually, I'd think twice about taking pictures of someone else's 1-year-old making soft-serve in the gutter.  The police might interpret it the wrong way.


Look up child porn laws.  They're more specific than you think.
 
2013-04-21 06:37:00 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: It's not a trend or a fad or anything. It's another one of those stupid Times articles in which some asshole reporter heard from a friend of a friend that there are some bigger assholes in and around Brooklyn doing douchebaggy things. As evidence of the first part of that theory, the author's first name is Anemona. As evidence in support of the second part of that sentence, I submit that some asshole held her baby over a bowl at a party and let it piss and shiat itself in front of everyone there.


I would have been inclined to think it wasn't real if I hadn't been introduced to the idea of 'diaper hyenas' last night. Now I'd believe anything the breeders were capable of anything.
 
2013-04-21 06:45:39 PM  

redsquid: I would have been inclined to think it wasn't real if I hadn't been introduced to the idea of 'diaper hyenas' last night. Now I'd believe anything the breeders were capable of anything.


After some googling, the truth of what a diaper hyena is did not meet my expectations.

Although there are some pretty weird motherhood forums out there...
 
2013-04-21 06:49:23 PM  

redsquid: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: It's not a trend or a fad or anything. It's another one of those stupid Times articles in which some asshole reporter heard from a friend of a friend that there are some bigger assholes in and around Brooklyn doing douchebaggy things. As evidence of the first part of that theory, the author's first name is Anemona. As evidence in support of the second part of that sentence, I submit that some asshole held her baby over a bowl at a party and let it piss and shiat itself in front of everyone there.

I would have been inclined to think it wasn't real if I hadn't been introduced to the idea of 'diaper hyenas' last night. Now I'd believe anything the breeders were capable of anything.


Whenever I see that words (originally gay slang for straights?) all I can think of is the Pak.
 
2013-04-21 06:51:37 PM  
Leaving a kid who is ready for potty training to go free-range (no nappy etc) is one thing.  That's actually the method recommended by most parents I've known.  It's best when you have warm weather and a fairly private back garden they can be playing in.

Having babies and shiat, literally, all over the house just sounds like insanity.  But if that's how they want to spend their time, good for them.  I spent my son's baby years at his beck and call enough without adding more work for myself.
 
2013-04-21 06:56:53 PM  

sxacho: My wife was telling me about this elimination communication idiocy a couple years ago. I never looked it up but always just kind of figured that she was kidding about it. I should have known better.


There are classes conducted in the Seattle area about this. I know some parents that did this and let their pantless, uncircumcised kid run amok.

/not kidding
 
2013-04-21 07:00:50 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: redsquid: I would have been inclined to think it wasn't real if I hadn't been introduced to the idea of 'diaper hyenas' last night. Now I'd believe anything the breeders were capable of anything.

After some googling, the truth of what a diaper hyena is did not meet my expectations.

Although there are some pretty weird motherhood forums out there...


I was expecting heavy breathing Japanese guy actually, but the truth was just as creepy.
 
2013-04-21 07:07:03 PM  
Once upon a time, there was this mythical thing called "diaper service" and the dirty diaper man would come by once a week and retrieve the soiled cloth diapers and return them clean, fresh and ready to reuse.  Or so I've heard.  I was a child of the 70's and my mom put cloth diapers on my believing them to be more healthy and to avoid diaper rash and paid the poop truck guy weekly.  I haven't seen a diaper service truck on the streets for at least 20 years.  Someone should open up a business like that again, bet they'd be in high demand.
 
2013-04-21 07:12:41 PM  

specialkae: Once upon a time, there was this mythical thing called "diaper service" and the dirty diaper man would come by once a week and retrieve the soiled cloth diapers and return them clean, fresh and ready to reuse.  Or so I've heard.  I was a child of the 70's and my mom put cloth diapers on my believing them to be more healthy and to avoid diaper rash and paid the poop truck guy weekly.  I haven't seen a diaper service truck on the streets for at least 20 years.  Someone should open up a business like that again, bet they'd be in high demand.


They still exist. Rare though, you're right.
 
2013-04-21 07:13:55 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: redsquid: I would have been inclined to think it wasn't real if I hadn't been introduced to the idea of 'diaper hyenas' last night. Now I'd believe anything the breeders were capable of anything.

After some googling, the truth of what a diaper hyena is did not meet my expectations.



The term originally referred to moms who stalked the Web sites of work-at-home diaper makers, waiting to snap up the latest batch of diapers.  The same packs haunted eBay's used diaper section.
 
2013-04-21 07:23:32 PM  

T-Servo: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 383x480]

/first thing I thought of


I like how it goes "Don't drink alcohol. But if you are an alcoholic you should cut down on the amount."

redsquid: Hermione_Granger: Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.

Says the grown up with the FARK handle from children's literature.


Ah, but reading a story is so much better than being an actor in the story. In a similar vein: someone who is able to hit a ball using a piece of wood is to be celebrated because it takes a lot of hand-eye coordination. Someone who plays computer games is to be mocked. Resource management, tech management, keeping the relevant areas scouted, managing the construction of an army and the battle, including keeping an eye out for counter attacks (and doing most of these things at the same time) is a sign of a weak childish mind.

/Even modern war shooters require teamwork and some planning.
 
2013-04-21 07:26:28 PM  

redsquid: diaper hyenas


What is that?
 
2013-04-21 07:28:56 PM  

AbbeySomeone: There are classes conducted in the Seattle area about this.


Those kids must be real geniuses if they need a lesson in how to shiat on the floor
 
2013-04-21 07:36:19 PM  

DerAppie: someone who is able to hit a ball using a piece of wood is to be celebrated because it takes a lot of hand-eye coordination. Someone who plays computer games is to be mocked


Ball games teach you to interact with real humans and you get some exercise.

Computer games are merely consumption - no better than watching TV.
 
2013-04-21 07:37:06 PM  

jaytkay: redsquid: diaper hyenas

What is that?


Women who seek out unique and artisanal reusable diapers and pay hundreds of dollars apiece for what they consider to be the best piece of artistic cloth to soak up their baby's piss and shiat.
 
2013-04-21 07:50:10 PM  
How to get them to pee in the street?
Buy them one of these
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-21 07:52:35 PM  

jaytkay: DerAppie: someone who is able to hit a ball using a piece of wood is to be celebrated because it takes a lot of hand-eye coordination. Someone who plays computer games is to be mocked

Ball games teach you to interact with real humans and you get some exercise.

Computer games are merely consumption - no better than watching TV.


So reading a book is even worse because you don't interact with people, you don't get exercise, you don't learn to strategise and you are merely consuming - no better than watching TV and worse than playing computer games.
 
2013-04-21 08:05:49 PM  
si0.twimg.com

Why are you encouraging pedos?
 
2013-04-21 08:12:17 PM  
DRTFT, but in NYC, I once saw a woman hold a naked-butted kid while he crapped in the street, and wondered what the hell was wrong with her.
 
2013-04-21 08:46:37 PM  
I hear babies in China live like that.
 
2013-04-21 08:53:51 PM  

missblue: I hear babies in China live like that.


My mom says there's a lot of black people in China...
 
2013-04-21 08:56:18 PM  
FTA:

"Adrian Stare holding her son Loren, 4 months, at her store in Brooklyn.


By  ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS"
Anemone Torticollis?  WTF kind of name is that?
 
2013-04-21 08:59:58 PM  
Um... In NO WAY is this acceptable. No. If in the five minutes between getting out of the bath and putting clothes on her she pees on the floor, that's one thing. But I'm NOT going to be just holding my kid over the sink waiting for them to do their business.

I AM going primarily cloth to save money and garbage. I'll always have disposables on hand though for babysitters or when I'm out places. But this...fad... Ugh. YOU'RE TAKING IT TOO FAR!
 
2013-04-21 09:08:05 PM  
Being a curious sort, I just looked up what prehistoric diapers were like, and they were things like animal skins, moss, and leaves. Not even cavemen let their children shiat all over the place!
 
2013-04-21 09:14:25 PM  

T-Servo: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 383x480]

/first thing I thought of


Same here.   But then I thought about the lulz from a bunch of people who killed themselves through stupidity and Imokwiththis.jpg
 
2013-04-21 09:15:46 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: The same packs haunted eBay's used diaper section.


I had to re-read that a few times before I realised they were probably washed, used diapers.... anything is possible but I thought ebay had rules against that sort of thing.

But isn't that a little like buying used underwear? Will used sex toys be the next hipster thing?


machoprogrammer: 1. That is nasty and unsanitary. Good way to spread disease
2. Isn't it illegal to piss in the street?


If it isn't illegal now, it should be. If I can't piss and shiat in the street between two parked cars (and I shouldn't be allowed to), why does a baby get the right to? Pretty sure they don't shiat rainbows.
 
2013-04-21 09:18:36 PM  

Nidiot: Pretty sure they don't shiat rainbows.


Depends on what you feed them the night before really.
 
2013-04-21 09:20:43 PM  
cloth diapers?  sure.
pee and poop in the streets?  massive public health problem waiting to happen.
someone actually gets paid to tell people to do this???  gotta love a capitalist society.
 
2013-04-21 09:26:52 PM  

Nidiot: BarkingUnicorn: The same packs haunted eBay's used diaper section.

I had to re-read that a few times before I realised they were probably washed, used diapers.... anything is possible but I thought ebay had rules against that sort of thing.

But isn't that a little like buying used underwear? Will used sex toys be the next hipster thing?


eBay's used clothing policy explicitly allows "diaper covers."  It is silent on diapers.  Typically, diapers aren't worn under anything so they're not underwear.   Behold the power of diaper hyenas; marvel, and tremble.

I haven't been in the Adult section of eBay in ages.  That's where used  undies are traded.  Wouldn't surprise me to find used sex toys too.
 
2013-04-21 09:30:56 PM  
Diaper Hyenas: why don't you just go to a sewing store, buy a bunch of heavy-duty cotton, and make your own?  How hard is that?
 
2013-04-21 09:37:48 PM  
What's wrong with used diapers?

In my house, the softest and best polishing rags EVAR were the diapers we wore as a kids, they were 100% cotton weave and washed about a million times each. Perfectly soft.
 
2013-04-21 09:49:03 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them


It could have something to do with diaper manufacturers heavily advertising their products for older toddlers, giving TV watching parents the impression that not toilet training until 3 or 4 is normal. I hear it's a pretty competitive business, and wouldn't doubt that the larger companies try to manipulate public opinion in order to sell more product.
 
2013-04-21 09:58:40 PM  

cyberspacedout: Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them

It could have something to do with diaper manufacturers heavily advertising their products for older toddlers, giving TV watching parents the impression that not toilet training until 3 or 4 is normal. I hear it's a pretty competitive business, and wouldn't doubt that the larger companies try to manipulate public opinion in order to sell more product.


If your 4 year old is still wearing diapers you have failed as a parent.
 
2013-04-21 10:11:00 PM  

AbbeySomeone: cyberspacedout: Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

If your 4 year old is still wearing diapers you have failed as a parent.



I had a friend whose 3 year old was ALMOST fully trained, and then she got a baby sister. So she reverted to diapers to keep getting attention. It took another year to break her of that. She's a little bit special as it is, she's seven now and is still slightly behind in some stuff, but I can see this being logical when a new baby comes.
 
2013-04-21 10:24:32 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.


So is slave labor, censorship of anything remotely challenging to the regime, eating what we consider pets, and about 50 other things we can do without.
 
2013-04-21 10:32:15 PM  
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
 
2013-04-21 10:52:37 PM  

kiwimoogle84: AbbeySomeone: cyberspacedout: Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

If your 4 year old is still wearing diapers you have failed as a parent.


I had a friend whose 3 year old was ALMOST fully trained, and then she got a baby sister. So she reverted to diapers to keep getting attention. It took another year to break her of that. She's a little bit special as it is, she's seven now and is still slightly behind in some stuff, but I can see this being logical when a new baby comes.


My sister-in-law had the same problem.
 
2013-04-21 10:52:57 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training?


I met a family once who's six year old was still wearing diapers and not potty trained. Then again they were just trashy pill heads.
 
2013-04-21 11:05:46 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training?


Montessori Morons?

Not cool story: Once met a family who was raising their kid on the Montessori method.  He was 6 and could not read anything.  Why?  Because he had not yet decided to learn to read.
 
2013-04-21 11:18:36 PM  

FunkOut: This is normal in most of China.


My girlfriend grew up in northeastern China under the Mao government.  She told me that babies wore diapers for 2-3 months there.  After that, it was a mixture of  communication and adapting to bodily rhythms.  Not as many accidents as you might expect.

Somehow I got a different vibe from this article.
 
2013-04-21 11:30:27 PM  

Bondith: Ms. Shapiro scattered little bowls around the house to catch her daughter's offerings

Bondith: It's only considered an offering if someone else might want it.  Otherwise it's refuse.  Waste.  Discarded.



img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-04-21 11:35:13 PM  

Mock26: Not cool story: Once met a family who was raising their kid on the Montessori method.  He was 6 and could not read anything.  Why?  Because he had not yet decided to learn to read.


That's not the Montessori method.  They learn to read. The difference is that they like school, are more self-motivated, and learn to train their classmates as well as take instruction from them.

/Daughter is a Montessori girl.  Just got a job as a civil engineer and loves it.  AND she is remarkably mature, well read, and curious about the world.  I have nothing bad to say about the educational method.
 
2013-04-22 12:17:37 AM  

on the road: My girlfriend grew up in northeastern China under the Mao government.  She told me that babies wore diapers for 2-3 months there.  After that, it was a mixture of  communication and adapting to bodily rhythms.  Not as many accidents as you might expect.

Somehow I got a different vibe from this article.


Okay, yeah, that 2-3 months of diapers answers my question - that sounds more reasonable.
 
2013-04-22 12:36:00 AM  

Hermione_Granger: Toilet training, she said, is a matter of conditioning, "just like Pavlov's dog," but in the United States parents begin talking about it around 18 months, with most children being potty-trained around ages 3 or even 4.

Who the fark waits until a kid is 4 year old to begin potty training? Has to be the same white people who will call the cops if your kid so much plays in their own yard without a parent hovering over them

I think I get it.

40 is the new 30
30 is the new 20
20 is the new 10
10 is the new preschooler
Preschoolers are the new infants and expected to still shiat themselves.
Also explains why grown men play video games and act like babies.


We've been trying to potty train for the last 2 years.  We wanted to start potty training at 18 months.  We delayed a bit because there was no speech.

By three we had to start training even though there was still no speech.

//There is still no speech at four
///Still dirty diapers that we wanted to be rid of years ago
////Autism sucks and is messy in ways you can't imagin.
 
2013-04-22 12:40:35 AM  
Elimination Communication Breakdown.....it's always the same........
 
2013-04-22 01:00:58 AM  

AbbeySomeone: sxacho: My wife was telling me about this elimination communication idiocy a couple years ago. I never looked it up but always just kind of figured that she was kidding about it. I should have known better.

There are classes conducted in the Seattle area about this. I know some parents that did this and let their pantless, uncircumcised kid run amok.

/not kidding


Classes conducted by my sister in law who is a Doula. She wanted us to use cloth and do EC. I am bad at laundry so did not do cloth (although if i ever have snother baby i might) , and I think EC is stupid. My SIL would also always try to use sign with our daughter even though she could talk. It made me nuts. She also liked giving us gender neutral clothes which mostly went unused. Anyway, she is practically broke but still trying to make a business out if being a "post partum doula" even though she couldnt properly install my daughters car seat. I am waiting for the day she gets broke enough she decides to get a real job.
 
2013-04-22 01:46:19 AM  
Amused

blogs.miaminewtimes.com
 
2013-04-22 02:06:06 AM  
If I can't piss in parking lots, neither can the kid. At what point in your life does leaving bowls around your house for the kid to poop in make sense? And the worst part is, I don't even know if there is a word for how I feel now!
 
2013-04-22 07:44:23 AM  

ZombieApocalypseKitten: ///Still dirty diapers that we wanted to be rid of years ago


Dude. Just throw them away. Bronze some baby shoes instead or something.
 
2013-04-22 07:54:59 AM  
We had a case here last summer of some "new Canadians" letting their kids, and by kids I don't mean babies, shiat on the beach and their defense was that it was cultural and it was racist to not let them shiat on the beach. Dogs haven't been allowed on the beach for seven years because of concerns of people not picking up after them but apparently human turds are safer and/or less disgusting than dog turds. There are places in the world where leprosy is still a thing and those are also the places where dropping a deuce wherever you like is considered normal.
 
2013-04-22 10:04:32 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: The scientific consensus is that cloth v. dispoable diapers are roughly equal in environmental impacts, overall. Like two different meals with the same number of calories.  It's just a matter of preference.


I dunno... from my POV, better to use a little more water (which can be recycled through a wastewater treatment center) than to dump tons of plastic into landfills, where it will remain FOREVER.

That said, I'm so lazy I use disposable litterboxes for my cat. And sure, the litterboxes themselves are biodegradable... but the plastic trash bags I put them in when I throw them away aren't.
 
2013-04-22 10:49:08 AM  
I suppose it would be a waste of time to point out that elimination communication is the most widely used method in the world.
 
2013-04-22 11:09:05 AM  

Quickpull: I suppose it would be a waste of time to point out that elimination communication is the most widely used method in the world.


McDonald's is the most frequently visited restaurant in the world.
 
2013-04-22 11:09:42 AM  

Lorelle: Ms. Shapiro scattered little bowls around the house to catch her daughter's offerings, and her sister insisted that she use a big, dark marker to mark the bowls so that they could never find their way back to the kitchen.

ugh, gross


Heh, my dog always makes it outside.  No dishes!!
 
2013-04-22 11:46:48 AM  

res_nihil: Do cloth diapers really save that much waste?  I'd imagine that the water and other resources you'd need to wash them as often as you do would negate other environmental impacts, and unless you're composting or making fertalizer with the feces it still has to be disposed of somehow (or is it just flushed?).


Personally, I didn't care as much about the waste as the expense. We cloth diapered until 1.5 years (after a year, we did disposables only at night because apparently my daughter's bladder is the size of a watermelon). My daughter's eczema became so terrible, we were forced to switch to nekkidness or disposables. Frankly, I kind of hate it. I NEVER had to worry about running out of diapers. I'd just do a load of laundry. Now I have to keep adjusting my Amazon subscription and hope I got it right this time so we don't run out. We are to the point of pull-ups anyhow and the idea of cloth pull-ups with no cover seemed silly to me. All that wool in Houston climate is asking for heat rash and other unpleasantness. I spent about $250 on cloth - prefolds and covers. That was it. For a year of diapering. It's about $.27 per diaper. Our water bill barely went up. Maybe our electric bill did a tad but ... not enough to notice. For a newborn who goes through anywhere from 6-12 in a day... I'll let you do the maths.

I'll be honest. I tried to E.C. because I thought it was an interesting idea. I mean, come on. I know when my dogs need to go out. They get that look in their eyes... I think it lasted about three days before I said "F no." I wasn't going to use a BOWL. Sink, sure. Toilet, of course. That didn't always work out trying to wait to get there.
 
2013-04-22 11:53:22 AM  

specialkae: Once upon a time, there was this mythical thing called "diaper service" and the dirty diaper man would come by once a week and retrieve the soiled cloth diapers and return them clean, fresh and ready to reuse. Or so I've heard. I was a child of the 70's and my mom put cloth diapers on my believing them to be more healthy and to avoid diaper rash and paid the poop truck guy weekly. I haven't seen a diaper service truck on the streets for at least 20 years. Someone should open up a business like that again, bet they'd be in high demand.


There is ONE in Houston. ONE. I couldn't get over it. I would've paid for it gladly for the first 3-6 months. It would've been worth every penny. Too bad there's no way in hell I'll be starting one up myself.
/BF BM isn't bad
//formula BM is GODAWFUL
 
2013-04-22 12:47:23 PM  
Ms. Shapiro is a doula, which is an overeducated niche occupation that lets wealthy hippies and brave iconoclasts find one more fancy word to throw around with their friends over bowls of artisan water and free range durian fruit smoothies.
 
2013-04-22 12:51:41 PM  
We had some parents who let their kid go diaperless. We lost a cherished family tricycle we brought with us from Singapore the day he decided to sit on it after doing his business.
 
2013-04-22 01:39:06 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: LiberalEastCoastElitist: Feral_and_Preposterous: So when they're in their crib do they just piss and sh*t all over themselves?

Apparently one of the parents is hovering over the child 24 hours a day.

I swear, half the trendy parenting advice right now is setting feminism back 50 years. Why use a stroller when mum can carry the baby for two years? Why use diapers when mum can follow baby around 24-7 with a pooper scooper? Co-sleep! Extended breastfeeding! Don't even think about an epidural!  Make your own baby food from organic pureed lentils! Whatever you do, don't leave your baby's side, and don't even think about having fun!


Jesus I noticed it too.

It's insane, I think a bit of it is Mommy Competition and also people only have 1 or 2 kids, it forces parents to try and make their kid's "perfect" because they only have 1 shot.

Thankfully, I live in the socialist republic of Canada so I will get a year off from work so I can do a middle ground approach.

I also plan to stay away from Mommy bloggers.
 
2013-04-22 02:32:57 PM  

Dragonflew: ZombieApocalypseKitten: ///Still dirty diapers that we wanted to be rid of years ago

Dude. Just throw them away. Bronze some baby shoes instead or something.


Speaking of dirty diapers and bronzing shoes, remember when Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes had a kid? They didn't bronze her baby shoes, but... (not-safe-for-lunch photo).
 
2013-04-22 02:52:12 PM  

shortymac: I also plan to stay away from Mommy bloggers.


Best advice anyone can give. Although, I really suggest you start your own private blog/LJ/physical notebook for your own keepsake. Honestly, even if you just write something as simple as "shortymac jr had the best smile today!" every day you'll never regret doing it.
I regret not starting my own Day 2.... It's amazing what you forget.
 
2013-04-22 02:52:36 PM  
shortymac:It's insane, I think a bit of it is Mommy Competition and also people only have 1 or 2 kids, it forces parents to try and make their kid's "perfect" because they only have 1 shot.

Yeah. I'm due for my first in a few months, and I've had ALL KINDS of people tell me what I "should" be doing. And oh, that brand of diapers you picked is blah blah, use these ones, weaved from the permed hair of a zebra, they only cost $87 apiece! -paraphrased by another pregnant friend whom I've started to ignore.

I'm so fed up with all the "advice" nowadays. Know who I'm taking advice from? My MOM. Know why? Because she didn't take any kind of hipster garbage back in those days. I played in the dirt. She let me cry at night-I was fine. I slept in another room. I had strollers and play groups and babysitters and was fed formula. I WAS FINE.  I'm probably going to have an epidural- I'm ok with this. One friend crucified me over it. I plan on working and Dad will stay home. That's not anti family, it's just how our jobs work- once I go back to work about four months after she's born, Mr Kiwi's job will allow him to work from home.

And mommy blogs? No thank you. I have a hard enough time with the atrocious spelling and grammar on some baby forums when I go asking questions about specific stuff.

There's a onesie out there I'll likely get several of. It has printed on it- "My mother does not want your advice." My kid will wear that in public A LOT.
 
2013-04-22 03:05:53 PM  
This sounds like the perfect solution for crackhead welfare queen moms who need to sell their EBT cards for crack.  No need for diapers.
 
2013-04-22 03:56:25 PM  
Seriously, how is this different from dogs, who poo and pee everywhere?

If it bugs you in public, TAKE OUR YOUR CAMERA PHONE AND TAKE PICTURES (or actually, just pretend to)
Same with public breast feeding.

You do it in public, then it's public domain and I can take a picture of whatever you are doing and post it on facebook.
 
2013-04-22 04:01:08 PM  

you_idiot: Seriously, how is this different from dogs, who poo and pee everywhere?

If it bugs you in public, TAKE OUR YOUR CAMERA PHONE AND TAKE PICTURES (or actually, just pretend to)
Same with public breast feeding.

You do it in public, then it's public domain and I can take a picture of whatever you are doing and post it on facebook.


Until the cops get called on you for pedophilia and child pornography. Come on, this is Fark. I remember a story here just last year where a dad was almost arrested for taking pictures of his OWN KIDS playing at the park- he had to prove his parentage and STILL had to delete his pictures.
 
2013-04-22 04:45:47 PM  

Quickpull: I suppose it would be a waste of time to point out that elimination communication is the most widely used method in the world.


I have never known a parent who didn't use it.  Kid gets "that look," someone asks, "Do you have to go potty?" and pretty soon kid makes the connection.  How the fark else would it get done?
 
2013-04-22 04:49:46 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Quickpull: I suppose it would be a waste of time to point out that elimination communication is the most widely used method in the world.

I have never known a parent who didn't use it.  Kid gets "that look," someone asks, "Do you have to go potty?" and pretty soon kid makes the connection.  How the fark else would it get done?


Maybe once they're past a certain age, yeah, but a baby under 18mo or so? No way. Far too young and unable to communicate efficiently. *at least, this is my experience. Ask me again in a couple years when my kid is two and I may have a different answer.
 
2013-04-22 06:51:18 PM  
Somewhere, someone has got to be making a killing off of these farking idiots. There can be no other explanation for planting this seed in someone's head.
 
2013-04-22 07:14:37 PM  
Hi New York.

Fark You.
 
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