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(Patch)   So the Nazis and KKK walk into Atlanta   (snellville.patch.com) divider line 324
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2013-04-21 08:01:41 PM  

FloydA: Unfortunately, many anti-racists still haven't learned the important lesson that mockery is a better weapon than anger. Those racist s**tstains thrive on anger, but they wither under mockery every time.


This is a very important point. While many people are likely sympathetic to the desire to respond to such ugly views with anger and/or violence, they don't realize that such a response will only strengthen the resolve of those who hold these views. It's important keep in mind that many of these far-right groups approach their beliefs in a similar manner to those of religious fundamentalists both in the absolutism of their views and that they view their movements as a form of purity fighting against a corrupt world. When counter-protestors respond with hostility, they view this as a moral victory and as evidence that reinforces their beliefs. I recommend checking out the documentary Blood in the Face: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101479/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1, which is mostly footage of members of these movements explaining their view of the world. While released in 1991, it's a little disturbing how some of the ideas mentioned in the film have more recently shown up amongst the tea party groups.

Back to the point of counter protests, if you want to discourage these people, either ignore them or don't let them think that you are taking them seriously. Instead of shouting angrily at them, try something like acting out scenes from The Producers or The Great Dictator.
 
2013-04-21 08:34:08 PM  
Some of those guys have class 3 hardware.
I might could pretend to care enough to hate people if I got to play with their toys.
/just play sick on rally days
 
2013-04-21 08:40:03 PM  
They hate the jews.
 
2013-04-21 09:17:59 PM  
Violence is always the answer.  It never creates a vicious cycle at all.
 
2013-04-21 09:24:41 PM  

RanDomino: Elegy
group that is peacefully marching in broad daylight.

What peaceful marching in broad daylight might look like:

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You have the right to BE a fascist or racial supremacist. You don't have the right to ORGANIZE toward fascism or racial supremacy.


Jesus, are you retarded?
 
2013-04-21 09:54:03 PM  
I live in Atlanta and this is the first I've heard of the march.

Good job marketing there Nazis!

No, seriously--I didn't hear about it and no one else heard about their puny little march either--probably due to my brothers in the Jewish Conspiracy,

Yes, we control the media.  We also control the banks and Hollywood.  Oh and the courts.    It's a pretty good gig.  Now mind you, I'm not very religious, and not a regular temple-goer (the High Holidays, maybe Purim, and that's about it), so I'm not involved in any sort of decison-making or anything like that in the Conspiracy.  But I got the proper pedigree, so every month, first week, like clockwork--I get my check from the spoils.  It's only $78 and change, but hey!  It's still $78 dollars we didn't have, right?  We usually take the family out to a nice dinner with it.  So that's nice.
 
2013-04-21 10:18:59 PM  

BravadoGT: I live in Atlanta and this is the first I've heard of the march.

Good job marketing there Nazis!

No, seriously--I didn't hear about it and no one else heard about their puny little march either--probably due to my brothers in the Jewish Conspiracy,

Yes, we control the media.  We also control the banks and Hollywood.  Oh and the courts.    It's a pretty good gig.  Now mind you, I'm not very religious, and not a regular temple-goer (the High Holidays, maybe Purim, and that's about it), so I'm not involved in any sort of decison-making or anything like that in the Conspiracy.  But I got the proper pedigree, so every month, first week, like clockwork--I get my check from the spoils.  It's only $78 and change, but hey!  It's still $78 dollars we didn't have, right?  We usually take the family out to a nice dinner with it.  So that's nice.


Let me guess- Chinese?
 
2013-04-21 10:36:46 PM  

Tatsuma: albatros183: I have a problem with your religion, I have a problem with religion we have a problem that way.

You'll also find that, while I might be a religious person, I will never try to force you in any way whatsoever to conform to my rules and norms, all I ask for is the right to privately live my life the way I want it.

So I really don't think we have a problem there either.


Haha, get it in an Israeli/Palestinian thread and you will see how non-confrontational he/she/it is.
 
2013-04-21 10:42:33 PM  

CaptainFatass: Tatsuma: albatros183: I have a problem with your religion, I have a problem with religion we have a problem that way.

You'll also find that, while I might be a religious person, I will never try to force you in any way whatsoever to conform to my rules and norms, all I ask for is the right to privately live my life the way I want it.

So I really don't think we have a problem there either.

Haha, get it in an Israeli/Palestinian thread and you will see how non-confrontational he/she/it is.


Yeah.  If anyone ever dares to say anything in defense of a Palestinian state or dares mention any Israeli human rights violation and tats starts foaming at the mouth! Quite humorous.  Of course, make any rational point and tats will put you on ignore. Quite pathetic.
 
2013-04-21 10:50:04 PM  
Oh, Please.  That happens every year.  It is great theater to go down and see the tactics the anti-Klan folks come up with to piss them off.
 
2013-04-21 10:53:55 PM  

BravadoGT: I live in Atlanta and this is the first I've heard of the march.

Good job marketing there Nazis!

No, seriously--I didn't hear about it and no one else heard about their puny little march either--probably due to my brothers in the Jewish Conspiracy,

Yes, we control the media.  We also control the banks and Hollywood.  Oh and the courts.    It's a pretty good gig.  Now mind you, I'm not very religious, and not a regular temple-goer (the High Holidays, maybe Purim, and that's about it), so I'm not involved in any sort of decison-making or anything like that in the Conspiracy.  But I got the proper pedigree, so every month, first week, like clockwork--I get my check from the spoils.  It's only $78 and change, but hey!  It's still $78 dollars we didn't have, right?  We usually take the family out to a nice dinner with it.  So that's nice.


The march is usually held April 26 (Confederate Memorial Day) and ends on the steps of the Capitol

It was better when Hosea Williams was alive.  That man was a GENIUS at coming up with ways to needle the speakers.

The rules of the game are simple.  The Klan guys reserve the Capitol Steps and the Protestors go to the Park across the street.  Everyone can speechify and whatnot, just DON"T CROSS THE STREET.  You WILL be arrested if you do.  Everybody gets a say and goes home happy.
 
2013-04-21 10:57:17 PM  
EVERYONE CALM DOWN

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I'VE GOT THIS


/after 300+, I'm the boobies here?
 
2013-04-21 11:17:11 PM  

BravadoGT: It's only $78 and change,


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2013-04-21 11:51:55 PM  
All of you who would suggest we simply ignore the KKK may be well meaning, but you're wrong.

Ignoring evil will not make it go away.  The KKK needs to be countered, needs to see that they're vastly outnumbered, that we know they are evil, and that we will not let them spread their bigotry without resistance.

They're not going to just go away if we ignore them.
 
2013-04-21 11:56:19 PM  
test.axisofweevil.com
 
2013-04-22 01:01:10 AM  
Way late but I just like the fact that an appropriate response to those who disagree with Nazi-associated free speech protections is, "if you don't like it, move to Germany."
 
2013-04-22 06:50:09 AM  

starbuckisagirl: Wow, this made Fark?  I was out there yesterday.

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From what we could tell, no one was local.  The NSM group was from Detroit and they all seemed to be driving (foreign) cars with out of state plates.  They had a megaphone and ranted for an hour and it was noisy but I never heard them advocate actual violence.  Just a lot about all immigrants wanting to murder us, chanting and white power salutes.

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That guy in the Obama hat and backpack--I wonder how many times someone asked to look inside there?
 
2013-04-22 08:40:59 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: Like it or not, hateful speech is protected by the Constitution in this country. But, hateful speech != hate speech. And so long as they are not breaking the law then their intolerant speech must be tolerated, legally speaking, of course. But, toleration is not the same as approval. Nor does it mean that you cannot speak out against them. For the record, I hate racists and scum like that. But, they have rights, and those rights must be upheld. Also, I agree with you. If their speech breaks the law in any way, shape, or form (fighting words, inciting violence, slander, libel, etc.) then the full weight of the law should come down on them.

And why would I call you a monster or compare you to Hitler? I have no beef with you for having an opinion that is different from mine. With Tatsuma, though, she/he has a long history of being a troll so I have no compunction with letting the invectives fly

Considering how people tend to react when it comes to the Bill of Rights, I was covering my bases.

I just don't believe that we need to accept absolutely everything on the basis of "fairness". These people have spend more than a century being backwards un-evolved jackanapes, it's time to either drag them into the modern age or clean them up like the stains they are. They should be stopped from swaying others to their evil and from indoctrinating their children to be evil. I'm all for freedom of speech, but perverting it like this shouldn't be tolerated.

Where do you draw the line?  And who gets to draw it?  That is my problem with the restriction of free speech.  And once you draw that line what is the guarantee that it will stay where it is drawn?   I would much rather live in a society where someone can stand on a street corner and say, "Purple people are subhuman scum of the earth" than one where Group A can declare something offensive and it then becomes illegal to say something.

If it's as cartoony evil as what they're doing, then it sho ...


You're a dumbass. You probably also think the WBC shouldn't be allowed to protest. Shut up.
 
2013-04-22 09:56:52 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk [TotalFark]
2013-04-21 11:23:56 AM


I'll bet there were a bunch of rednecks who didn't know which uniform to wear

So they just wore their dnc buttons to honor their founders.
 
2013-04-22 11:47:53 AM  

Rockstone: You're a dumbass. You probably also think the WBC shouldn't be allowed to protest. Shut up.


The WBC is not an organization actively planning genocide and routinely engaging in criminal activities.
 
2013-04-22 12:15:31 PM  
So some southern dems and socialists got together in Atlanta?

Business as usual.
 
2013-04-22 01:02:16 PM  

Rockstone: Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: Like it or not, hateful speech is protected by the Constitution in this country. But, hateful speech != hate speech. And so long as they are not breaking the law then their intolerant speech must be tolerated, legally speaking, of course. But, toleration is not the same as approval. Nor does it mean that you cannot speak out against them. For the record, I hate racists and scum like that. But, they have rights, and those rights must be upheld. Also, I agree with you. If their speech breaks the law in any way, shape, or form (fighting words, inciting violence, slander, libel, etc.) then the full weight of the law should come down on them.

And why would I call you a monster or compare you to Hitler? I have no beef with you for having an opinion that is different from mine. With Tatsuma, though, she/he has a long history of being a troll so I have no compunction with letting the invectives fly

Considering how people tend to react when it comes to the Bill of Rights, I was covering my bases.

I just don't believe that we need to accept absolutely everything on the basis of "fairness". These people have spend more than a century being backwards un-evolved jackanapes, it's time to either drag them into the modern age or clean them up like the stains they are. They should be stopped from swaying others to their evil and from indoctrinating their children to be evil. I'm all for freedom of speech, but perverting it like this shouldn't be tolerated.

Where do you draw the line?  And who gets to draw it?  That is my problem with the restriction of free speech.  And once you draw that line what is the guarantee that it will stay where it is drawn?   I would much rather live in a society where someone can stand on a street corner and say, "Purple people are subhuman scum of the earth" than one where Group A can declare something offensive and it then becomes illegal to say something.

If it's as cartoony evil as what they're d ...


Hey, if God's not gonna do it, we mortals will. For a being that's supposed to be all-powerful, all-loving, and all-everything else, he doesn't do jack-shiat about his followers using his name and words to promote evil and fear and hate. And don't give me that "mysterious ways" garbage, Old Testament God would have burned the WBC and its members into dust for defiling his name.
 
2013-04-22 07:07:32 PM  

Tatsuma: SubBass49: Everyone talks about freedom of speech, but few mention that that freedom is from GOVERNMENT intervention in your speech.  It doesn't preclude your boss from firing you, people from thinking you're a douchebag, and other such repercussions of your "free speech."

While I may disagree with Tatsuma on matters of Israeli politics & zionism, I agree that neo-nazi fascists and white-power scumbags ought to get their asses beat down at every possible turn.  Sure, the people doing it will have to accept legal repercussions when they commit crimes in attacking such morons, but that's part of the deal.

Yup. And just because they can shut themselves up and not yell 'KILL ALL THE KIKES' for a 20 minutes march does not completely nullify the fact that this is what their pamphlets and propaganda arms are screaming all day long over the internet where anonymity is much easier and harder to prosecute.

Therefore they have to be taken up for it whenever they crawl out of their trailers, and beat the shiat out of them until they return. Whack a Nazi all day 'err day.

And yes, even if that results in assault charges.


Talk is cheap, Tats.  Bring us some Aryan foreskins, or shut the fark up.
 
2013-04-22 07:52:20 PM  
Meanwhile, in Dear Ol' Blighty

assets.vice.com

(that is an EDLer getting roflstomped by a Black Bloc)
 
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