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2013-04-21 02:45:35 PM

RanDomino: Elegy
group that is peacefully marching in broad daylight.

What peaceful marching in broad daylight might look like:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 800x532]

You have the right to BE a fascist or racial supremacist. You don't have the right to ORGANIZE toward fascism or racial supremacy.


Know how I know you have never read the Constitution?
 
2013-04-21 02:45:52 PM
They have just as much right to protest as anyone else. That article is full of as much hatred as the KKK. Just let them protest and ignore them.
 
2013-04-21 02:46:11 PM
Interesting that I live about a mile from the capitol and knew nothing about the protest but some guy out in Snellville knew all the details. Almost any day of the week there is some group down at the capitol being ignored by everyone except subscribers to their newsletter. I don't know who's dumber, the counter-protestors who gave the racists exactly what they wanted or the author of the article who is obviously trolling. I'll go with smitty and the mod who approved the link.
 
2013-04-21 02:47:02 PM
Came here a little while ago after the F1 rebroadcast (slept through it live). So far, have seen commercials, replay of M&M crash, commercials, Logano interview with no sound of Logano actually speaking, and more commercials.

Oh, now we're back to racing. Thanks FOX.

/Indy Lights looking pretty good in 15 minutes.
 
2013-04-21 02:47:19 PM

Tatsuma: Smash the fash, not worth having a discussion when a boot to the face has a much better effect on them


Why am I not surprised that you are just as intolerant and hate filled as the KKK?
 
2013-04-21 02:47:26 PM

Lord Jubjub: Isn't public obscenity, especially on a sign, generally cause for arrest?


Not for arrest, but "time and manner restrictions" on speech (you can't play Carlin's Seven Dirty Words on the radio at 3 in the afternoon, for example) would make the cop entirely within his rights in asking her to put it away.  Her response to that is likely what led to the arrest.  I wasn't there, I have no idea what she did/didn't do in response, so I have no opinion on whether the cop was justified.  I'll only say that it's possible that he was, it's also possible that he drastically overreacted.  I just don't have enough information.
 
2013-04-21 02:47:33 PM

Lanctwa: Q is can be for "Queer" or "Questioning"
A is for "Asexual" or "Alternative"
U is for "Undecided"
I is for "Intersex"


Clearly we need to add

D = When Drunk, sometimes engage in Gay sex
SB = Straight But own 4 Tegan & Sara cd
F = I Go to Lilith Fair every year
 
2013-04-21 02:49:19 PM
Just to clarify, their hate is bad, his hate is OK.
 
2013-04-21 02:50:01 PM

thamike: redsquid: thamike: redsquid: Nazis and fascists suck, but Patch is the Wikipedia of journalism.

Yet another person who doesn't know how Wikipedia works.  It's astonishing, really.

I know if I cite it as a source I'll be laughed out of the room. Anything else I need to know about it?

Yeah, how it works, for one.


Look- I don't know how the Charlie Brown Cyclopedia is put together either, but if it doesn't serve my purposes for research, i don't need to.
 
2013-04-21 02:50:55 PM
Quick show of hands:

How many here saying 'Well, they have the right to say this, let's just ignore them are white?

How many here saying 'Well, they have the right to say this, let's just ignore them are African-American/Jewish/(non-white)Immigrants/other Minorities?
 
2013-04-21 02:50:56 PM
Aaaaand....I'm in the wrong thread.

Fark me.
 
2013-04-21 02:51:30 PM
Why are you guys paying attention to these trolls?
 
2013-04-21 02:51:30 PM
(It's pretty farking easy to ignore racism and people calling for genocide when you are not the target)
 
2013-04-21 02:51:46 PM

Lionel Mandrake: vpb: I'm not surprised that it growing.  The Southern/rural right has gotten itself so worked up that we are lucky they aren't blowing up federal buildings.

yet


As opposed to some OWS people who only plotting to blow up a bridge I guess.
 
2013-04-21 02:53:24 PM

iheartscotch: Why are you guys paying attention to these trolls?


Let's see, 12 million dead in concentration camps, an untold number of African-Americans lynched, and again an untold number of racial attacks and murders in the last 60 years on American soil by these farks who are basically domestic terrorists.


I had the shiat beaten out of me repeatedly as a teenager for having Jewish blood by skinheads. Yeah, it's really a wonder why I'd react strongly to people who often assaulted me, and advocate for my death on a daily basis.
 
2013-04-21 02:54:53 PM

Tatsuma: (It's pretty farking easy to ignore racism and people calling for genocide when you are not the target)


You're a convert to Judaism, not a real Jew. You aren't the target either.
 
2013-04-21 02:57:15 PM

Lanctwa: Lionel Mandrake: ArcadianRefugee: ... yet an LGBTQ woman...

Wait, there's a 'q' now? How much more of the alphabet are they going to claim? And why don't they put them in order?

/i have CDO
//It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order as they should be

I think the "Q" is for "questioning"

But I guess they left out the "A" (Allies)

I think there may be even more...

Q is can be for "Queer" or "Questioning"
A is for "Asexual" or "Alternative"
U is for "Undecided"
I is for "Intersex"


All those letters are getting confusing.
Perhaps they should come up with an easy to remember acronym?
Like QUILTBAG?
 
2013-04-21 02:57:52 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'll bet there were a bunch of rednecks who didn't know which uniform to wear

I suspect the real Nazis (Waffen SS especially) would have "those" sort of people exterminated...



Don't you mean the Allgemeine SS? Exermination was more their thing.
 
2013-04-21 02:58:45 PM

Dogsbody: All those letters are getting confusing.
Perhaps they should come up with an easy to remember acronym?
Like QUILTBAG?


*facepalm*
 
2013-04-21 03:00:15 PM
Canary in freedom coal mine still tweeting. Ho-hum.
 
2013-04-21 03:01:00 PM

Tatsuma: (It's pretty farking easy to ignore racism and people calling for genocide when you are not the target)


Sorry, Tats, but the 1st Amendment applies to everyone in this country, not just those you approve of.
 
2013-04-21 03:01:34 PM

Tatsuma: albatros183: I have a problem with your religion, I have a problem with religion we have a problem that way.

You'll also find that, while I might be a religious person, I will never try to force you in any way whatsoever to conform to my rules and norms, all I ask for is the right to privately live my life the way I want it.

So I really don't think we have a problem there either.


not going to argue this, been up since midnight, we don't agree; I support Israel but I also support Palestine.

I object to states

We do not agree.
 
2013-04-21 03:03:09 PM

Tatsuma: iheartscotch: Why are you guys paying attention to these trolls?

Let's see, 12 million dead in concentration camps, an untold number of African-Americans lynched, and again an untold number of racial attacks and murders in the last 60 years on American soil by these farks who are basically domestic terrorists.


I had the shiat beaten out of me repeatedly as a teenager for having Jewish blood by skinheads. Yeah, it's really a wonder why I'd react strongly to people who often assaulted me, and advocate for my death on a daily basis.


I thought you live in Israel; are there skin heads in Israel?

By paying attention to them; you give them power. The way you beat trolls is by ignoring them.
 
2013-04-21 03:03:55 PM

albatros183: not going to argue this, been up since midnight, we don't agree; I support Israel but I also support Palestine.

I object to states

We do not agree.


Not going to derail this on I/P, I will just say this: I support peace between our people, and would support a two-state solution if it could lead to an actual peace. Not sure how you can support the two-state solution while objecting to states, though.

Either way, we slightly disagree on one topic, I don't see why you need to classify us as drastically opposed.
 
2013-04-21 03:04:23 PM

Tatsuma: Smash the fash, not worth having a discussion when a boot to the face has a much better effect on them


I don't know. I've seen the type of boots neo Nazis wear. I think I'd be more scared of their boots than the Birkenstocks the average Farker wears.
 
2013-04-21 03:05:35 PM
Tatsuma:

You'll also find that, while I might be a religious person, I will never try to force you in any way whatsoever to conform to my rules and norms, all I ask for is the right to privately live my life the way I want it.


Oh really?  You seem to think that the 1st amendment does not apply to anyone who has an opinion that you find repugnant.  That is most certainly trying to force others to conform to your rules and norms.
 
2013-04-21 03:07:07 PM

iheartscotch: I thought you live in Israel; are there skin heads in Israel?


I moved to Israel about two years ago (actually visiting NA for a couple of months to spend time with relatives). I did not grow up there.

And sadly yes there are even skinheads in Israel, they are non-Jewish Russians. They are the children of non-Jewish russians who lied about being Jewish in order to flee the USSR and come live in Israel, because well any place is better than the USSR. Their children grew up disenfranchised as they don't feel part of society, either the Jewish or Arab parts of it, and by reading Russian stuff online, they've embraced neo-Nazism.

Yeah.

iheartscotch: By paying attention to them; you give them power. The way you beat trolls is by ignoring them.


A shiatload of us tried to ignore Hitler as a clown in the early 30s, and it ended up with six millions of us killed.

Real life is not the internet, those are not trolls, they are honest to G-d racists with open plans for genocide.
 
2013-04-21 03:07:36 PM

Tatsuma: Smash the fash, not worth having a discussion when a boot to the face has a much better effect on them


OK let's see what else we have...
 
2013-04-21 03:07:41 PM
Nazis and Klansmen are in the same category as Juggalos, Christian Fundamentalists and PETA protesters in my book: Crazy/stupid people I try to ignore, because paying attention to them just gives them more legitimacy.
 
2013-04-21 03:07:48 PM

TerminalEchoes: I don't know. I've seen the type of boots neo Nazis wear. I think I'd be more scared of their boots than the Birkenstocks the average Farker wears.


Well that's why they need to buy proper boots first, obviously.
 
2013-04-21 03:08:11 PM
It's funny how white supremacists show the supposed supremacy of the melanin-challenged by thinking and acting like un-evolved beasts. It's like North Korea showing its military supremacy by driving around in a 50-year-old tank held together by chewing gum and duct tape.

Seriously, you ass-clowns, all you're doing is showing your own inferiority. If the tone of someone's skin makes you this retarded, something is wrong with your life. Take a step back and reflect on it. Or throw yourselves off a tall bridge, whichever gets rid of you quicker.
 
2013-04-21 03:08:27 PM

Tatsuma: The Supreme Court has ruled that incitement to violence and fighting words are not protected as Free Speech.


Hmmm...
 
2013-04-21 03:09:47 PM

redsquid: Hmmm...


A shiatload of people on Fark clearly know shiat all about legal matters, as could be witnessed in the 'They didn't read his miranda rights!!' discussion, or in this thread where people believe that incitement to violence and fighting words are in fact Free Speech.
 
2013-04-21 03:10:03 PM

Tatsuma: Smash the fash, not worth having a discussion when a boot to the face has a much better effect on them


Indeed, we should band together in our fear and hatred of fascists. It's us against them. You're with us or against us.
 
2013-04-21 03:10:10 PM

Mock26: Tatsuma: (It's pretty farking easy to ignore racism and people calling for genocide when you are not the target)

Sorry, Tats, but the 1st Amendment applies to everyone in this country, not just those you approve of.


Constitution?  He don't need no Constitution.

He answers to a Higher Authority.
 
2013-04-21 03:10:14 PM

iheartscotch: Tatsuma: iheartscotch: Why are you guys paying attention to these trolls?

Let's see, 12 million dead in concentration camps, an untold number of African-Americans lynched, and again an untold number of racial attacks and murders in the last 60 years on American soil by these farks who are basically domestic terrorists.


I had the shiat beaten out of me repeatedly as a teenager for having Jewish blood by skinheads. Yeah, it's really a wonder why I'd react strongly to people who often assaulted me, and advocate for my death on a daily basis.

I thought you live in Israel; are there skin heads in Israel?

By paying attention to them; you give them power. The way you beat trolls is by ignoring them.


tolls yes, Nazis no
Ignoring people that want to kill you or your neighbors, helps them.

The way to beat them is to beat them.

and yes there are skinheads in Israel also nazis.

the correct response to people that want a repeat of 57 million dead is a beatdown.
 
2013-04-21 03:10:19 PM

Lionel Mandrake: vpb: I'm not surprised that it growing.  The Southern/rural right has gotten itself so worked up that we are lucky they aren't blowing up federal buildings.

yet


yeah, I've been meaning to express my condolences that neither the Ricin mailer nor Boston Bomber were Right Wing Teabagging Christians. That must've been devastating news.
 
2013-04-21 03:10:54 PM
One of my fave news stories ever is about a Klan rally that was derailed by a Clown Rally.
Clowns Kicked KKK Asses
static.neatorama.com
 
2013-04-21 03:11:04 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Mock26: Tatsuma: (It's pretty farking easy to ignore racism and people calling for genocide when you are not the target)

Sorry, Tats, but the 1st Amendment applies to everyone in this country, not just those you approve of.

Constitution?  He don't need no Constitution.

He answers to a Higher Authority.


He's a Hebrew, not a Hebrew National
 
2013-04-21 03:11:46 PM

WordyGrrl: One of my fave news stories ever is about a Klan rally that was derailed by a Clown Rally.
Clowns Kicked KKK Asses
[static.neatorama.com image 500x330]


The only thing creepier than the Klan are clowns
 
2013-04-21 03:12:07 PM

Tatsuma: albatros183: not going to argue this, been up since midnight, we don't agree; I support Israel but I also support Palestine.

I object to states

We do not agree.

Not going to derail this on I/P, I will just say this: I support peace between our people, and would support a two-state solution if it could lead to an actual peace. Not sure how you can support the two-state solution while objecting to states, though.

Either way, we slightly disagree on one topic, I don't see why you need to classify us as drastically opposed.


not going to threat jack wanna talk eip im pretty sure, otherwise not hard to figure...
 
2013-04-21 03:12:12 PM

skullkrusher: WordyGrrl: One of my fave news stories ever is about a Klan rally that was derailed by a Clown Rally.
Clowns Kicked KKK Asses
[static.neatorama.com image 500x330]

The only thing creepier than the Klan are clowns


Nobody understands the clown agenda.
 
2013-04-21 03:13:29 PM

ph0rk: Indeed, we should band together in our fear and hatred of fascists. It's us against them. You're with us or against us.


You might be making a rather smug face right now at your pithy attempt at ironic commentary, but you are actually right.

People absolutely need to band and fight fascists wherever they are and yes, it is us against them, and you can either be a fascist or be for democracy and rights.
 
2013-04-21 03:14:23 PM

albatros183: The way to beat them is to beat them.


Be prepared to go to jail.
 
2013-04-21 03:14:38 PM

albatros183: tolls yes, Nazis no
Ignoring people that want to kill you or your neighbors, helps them.

The way to beat them is to beat them.

and yes there are skinheads in Israel also nazis.

the correct response to people that want a repeat of 57 million dead is a beatdown.


Exactly. I don't understand how that's hard to understand, or the fact that incitement to violence/fighting words are not free speech.
 
2013-04-21 03:17:44 PM

Tatsuma: I wish people would say 'It's their right to assemble and free speech!'

It's not. The Supreme Court has ruled that incitement to violence and fighting words are not protected as Free Speech. Just as you cannot yell 'Fire' in a crowded theater, you cannot advocate violence against minorities.


Sigh.  You really do not understand the 1st Amendment, do you?  Saying "Purple people are subhuman scum of the earth" is NOT an incitement to violence nor fighting words.
 
2013-04-21 03:18:11 PM

Tatsuma: albatros183: tolls yes, Nazis no
Ignoring people that want to kill you or your neighbors, helps them.

The way to beat them is to beat them.

and yes there are skinheads in Israel also nazis.

the correct response to people that want a repeat of 57 million dead is a beatdown.

Exactly. I don't understand how that's hard to understand, or the fact that incitement to violence/fighting words are not free speech.


THEN WHY IS NO ONE STOPPING THESE GUYS FROM MARCHING?? THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME
 
2013-04-21 03:19:03 PM

gonegirl: Given that the political views of most KKK members are generally virulently anti-socialism, this is sort of a touching incident of bipartisanship in action.

The KKK and the Nazis, despite their political differences found a way to reach across the aisle and agree that immigrants are just awful, then work together on the issue.  They're actually more functional than most of the legislative branch of the current government.


Nazis hate socialists......
 
2013-04-21 03:19:19 PM

WordyGrrl: One of my fave news stories ever is about a Klan rally that was derailed by a Clown Rally.
Clowns Kicked KKK Asses
[static.neatorama.com image 500x330]


Hmm... Clowns or Nazis... Which is more terrifying?
 
2013-04-21 03:19:27 PM

Tatsuma: albatros183: tolls yes, Nazis no
Ignoring people that want to kill you or your neighbors, helps them.

The way to beat them is to beat them.

and yes there are skinheads in Israel also nazis.

the correct response to people that want a repeat of 57 million dead is a beatdown.

Exactly. I don't understand how that's hard to understand, or the fact that incitement to violence/fighting words are not free speech.


As far as I can tell, the only "incitements to violence" are coming from the people suggesting that physically assaulting the Nazi/KKK people is the appropriate response.
 
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