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(Topless Robot)   "The anime of the 1990s is cooler than the anime of today"   (toplessrobot.com) divider line 438
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2013-04-21 10:45:04 AM
and those damned kids better stay off my lawn too.
 
2013-04-21 11:08:00 AM
It's actually true. Anime today is really very cookie cutter. Much moreso than in the past. Sure, you have original stuff like One Piece, but the vast majority is rehashed cliches so much so you can tell what role a character will play just by looking at her. Besides, One Piece is from 1997, so it technically counts as 90's anyway.
 
2013-04-21 11:15:44 AM

doglover: It's actually true. Anime today is really very cookie cutter. Much moreso than in the past. Sure, you have original stuff like One Piece, but the vast majority is rehashed cliches so much so you can tell what role a character will play just by looking at her. Besides, One Piece is from 1997, so it technically counts as 90's anyway.


Not really. It's kinda like why people are always saying "Saturday Night Live just isn't as funny as it used to be" then they bring up a bunch of clips on youtube to prove their point. The thing is: pouring through the last 20 years of material and picking out the handful of series that you liked then complaining that there wasn't a Neon Genesis Evangelion or Cowboy Bebop released this year kinda smacks of confirmation bias.

/and that's assuming that most of the stuff you used to watch wasn't just as bad, childish and stupid as anything produced to day except then you were too young and inexperienced to know the difference.
 
2013-04-21 11:23:31 AM
No I have to agree with doglover. This is not the golden age of anime by any stretch.
 
2013-04-21 11:24:31 AM
Cant wait for the author's next article titled "What is with that noise that kids call music these days"
 
2013-04-21 11:26:09 AM
Anime has never been the same since the death of Osamu Tezuka.  The Golden Age of Anime began when he and Yoshinori Kanada were both active in the industry, and ended when he passed in 1989.  This is an undeniable fact.  That Kanada killed the Silver Age with the release of Final Fantasy: Spirits Within is just opinion, and certainly debatable.
 
2013-04-21 11:30:20 AM
No love for the 80's?


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2013-04-21 11:36:21 AM
There's good stuff out there, but like anything, you have to look for it.
 
2013-04-21 11:37:50 AM
There is always much higher ratio between shiat and gems then you remember.  Since the shiat is forgotten.
 
2013-04-21 11:45:50 AM
excuse me?
 
2013-04-21 11:47:29 AM
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Let's try that again.
 
2013-04-21 11:47:55 AM

Voiceofreason01: Not really.


Yes really.

I'm not saying there's not good anime today, but the signal to noise ratio is a lot worse. I've been in Akihabara often for the past decade, I've kept my fingers near the pulse. Evangelion is STILL POPULAR. Dragon Ball Z has a new movie in theaters NOW. I live near freakin' Sunrise HQ for chrisakes. I can see what they're up to now and it's just not as popular amongst the young'ins as some of the older stuff.

My theory is complicated but it basically boils down to Japanese like cliches and Computers make animation cheaper, so there's more of it. When Gainax first started making movies, you needed a budget for animation. Now you just need a copy of Flash 8.
 
2013-04-21 11:50:38 AM
I still heart Linn Minmei.
 
2013-04-21 12:01:42 PM

Irving Maimway: I still heart Linn Minmei.


Go to Hell.
 
2013-04-21 12:02:52 PM
I don't agree with the article at all. We tend to look at the past with rose colored glasses. Sure, Cowboy Bebop was made in the 90's and nothing will ever compare to it. But you forget that there was still plenty of shiat series surrounding Cowboy Bebop in its '90s milieu. The thing to remember is that as anime becomes more popular in the states, we're naturally going to get more crap, too, along with really good stuff.

There's plenty of later anime that I love just as muh as the earlier stuff. I'm not a huge fan of the genre, but I do enjoy it, and my wife (who is a huge fan) keeps me abreast of the better examples. Gankatsuou and its mind blowing art. Noein and its Shangri-la. SKET Dance and its touching stories of friendship. Samurai 7 in all its big budget glory. Lately we've been watching Hetalia, which has been a hilariously great.

So yah. Nostalgia can be stupid sometimes, because it causes you to miss the really cool stuff that is happening all around you.
 
2013-04-21 12:09:53 PM
Honestly, Western animation is in a renaissance right now. There are a LOT of incredible shows being produced. I suppose it stands to reason that Japanese animation would be a bit weaker, but I'm not huge fan of the genre.

/Only going to say weeaboo for the spankings
 
2013-04-21 12:10:53 PM
Obvious tag is busy watching all those great 90s examples
 
2013-04-21 12:20:52 PM
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I dunno. I'm enjoying some pretty off-beat stuff. Still waiting on the second season of Panty & Stocking, but Angel Beats is a lovely corruption of the "school life" genre.
 
2013-04-21 12:40:09 PM
Damn girl, would you like some cheese with that whine? I prefer articles about my favorite subject to contain far less insufferability and more insight.
 
2013-04-21 12:48:31 PM

Apos: Damn girl, would you like some cheese with that whine? I prefer articles about my favorite subject to contain far less insufferableness and more insight.



Fixed
 
2013-04-21 01:21:00 PM
The '70s points and laughs at the weak '90s

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2013-04-21 01:22:18 PM

Saborlas: [i970.photobucket.com image 500x352]

I dunno. I'm enjoying some pretty off-beat stuff. Still waiting on the second season of Panty & Stocking, but Angel Beats is a lovely corruption of the "school life" genre.


Second season of Nyarko is on the air right now, too.

/for those who don't know, it's basically a somewhat light-hearted harem/romantic comedy whose title character is the crawling chaos  Nyarlathotep
 
2013-04-21 01:29:23 PM
Believe it!
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2013-04-21 01:52:19 PM
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2013-04-21 01:52:28 PM
The anime of the 80s was even cooler.

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Okay, the last one was 79, but the 70s were cooler too.  There's a reason why the late 70s and 80s are called the Golden Age of Anime, and the 90s aren't it.

Except for maybe Ghost in the Shell.
 
2013-04-21 01:56:51 PM
Too bad Nostalgia Glasses only come rose-colored
 
2013-04-21 01:57:04 PM
I can't believe the author went to Tenchi Muyo of all shows as an example of original characters. Pretty much every character in that show was a flat cliché.
 
2013-04-21 01:57:47 PM

thamike: The anime of the 80s was even cooler.

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Okay, the last one was 79, but the 70s were cooler too.  There's a reason why the late 70s and 80s are called the Golden Age of Anime, and the 90s aren't it.

Except for maybe Ghost in the Shell.


You missed one:

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2013-04-21 01:58:00 PM

Irving Maimway: I still heart Linn Minmei.


That's what everybody said after Yellow Dancer took off his shirt.
 
2013-04-21 01:59:41 PM
Is there anything out there half as good as Bebop or Trigun? Or will those always hold a special place because i saw them first a decade ago on Adult Swim.
 
2013-04-21 02:00:25 PM

thamike: Okay, the last one was 79, but the 70s were cooler too. There's a reason why the late 70s and 80s are called the Golden Age of Anime, and the 90s aren't it.


Fist of the North Star and Vampire Hunter D are from from the 80's as well.

Also, in addition to Ghost in the Shell, my favorite anime of all time is from the 90's, Ninja Scroll.
 
2013-04-21 02:03:00 PM

doglover: It's actually true. Anime today is really very cookie cutter. Much moreso than in the past. Sure, you have original stuff like One Piece, but the vast majority is rehashed cliches so much so you can tell what role a character will play just by looking at her.


Or hearing the voice.
 
2013-04-21 02:06:50 PM
It's very debatable, honestly.  9/10th of all shows from any period are basically trash.  It's those 3-4 shows a season that you remember, and maybe 1 of those goes on to become a classic.
 
2013-04-21 02:07:56 PM
I always figured it was accessibility.

Back when anime started being sold in the US, you had to physically get a copy from Japan.
That was more expensive, so sellers were selective about what they brought over. Left the shiat and brought the pieces that had entertainment value.

Now, you can bring over anything pretty cheaply, so everything comes over. Like a lot of American TV, most of it is shiat. Now we have to do the sorting.
 
2013-04-21 02:08:33 PM

Nefarious: There is always much higher ratio between shiat and gems then you remember.  Since the shiat is forgotten.


I refuse to let an insult to Battle Athletes: Victory go unrefuted! It most certainly is NOT forgotten in this corner of the Animeverseaxy-thing.
 
2013-04-21 02:08:41 PM
I usually enjoy Topless Robot's daily lists, even when it's on a subject like Anime that I know very little about (I've seen Neon Genesis Evangelion, End of Evangelion and the first two Rebuild of Evangelion movies, about half of Akira when I was way too drunk to follow the plot and the first few episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam. I intend to try and get through the entire Gundam franchise and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann by the end of 2014). That said, this just seemed like a poorly edited whiny biatchfest. I got the impression if they weren't having site technical difficulties the last few days then the list wouldn't have been approved. A definite low point in LYT's stewardship since Rob Bricken left
 
2013-04-21 02:09:09 PM
I do love 80's/90's anime, but will admit a huge Hipster/Indie factor.  It's nice it went mainstream, but a lot of the current animes lose me.  I just lost it's "Underground vibe".

Loved things like Tenchi Muyo, El Hazard, Slayers, Ranma 1/2, Cutey Honey, GTO, and all that back in the day.  Really loved Windaria and Grave of the fireflies (el cry).  Occasionally would watch a current series and just really don't get it.  Seems like ADD fueled fest, and doesn't even have good fan service anymore.

In the end though I equate it to getting the f old, and the problem is more me then what the industry is.
 
2013-04-21 02:11:00 PM

RedPhoenix122: thamike: The anime of the 80s was even cooler.

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Okay, the last one was 79, but the 70s were cooler too.  There's a reason why the late 70s and 80s are called the Golden Age of Anime, and the 90s aren't it.

Except for maybe Ghost in the Shell.

You missed one:

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I missed quite a few.

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G-Force, for example, which was awesome.
 
2013-04-21 02:12:14 PM
No.
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2013-04-21 02:16:55 PM
80's anime wins by the simple fact that the studios had actual money to animate and limit filler to reused robots combination scenes or heroes' costume changes
 
2013-04-21 02:24:34 PM
But the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure anime adaptation is coming out now.

Can the 90's say that?
 
2013-04-21 02:26:21 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: No.
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well, I guess, if you like Twilight.
 
2013-04-21 02:26:32 PM
This character alone makes the 90s superior over modern anime.
 
2013-04-21 02:27:36 PM
damn hotlinking
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2013-04-21 02:28:41 PM
Astro Boy, Tobar the Eighth Man, Marine Boy rulz OK
 
2013-04-21 02:31:20 PM

vossiewulf: The '70s points and laughs at the weak '90s

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Gulldurned tootin'.  For as goofy as '70s anime was, at least Speed Racer, Star Blazers, etc. had some kind of plots/stories... the contemporary stuff is so nonsensical that it makes me want to kick the tv.
 
2013-04-21 02:37:22 PM
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2013-04-21 02:37:44 PM
I didn't start watching anime until 3 years ago.  I was aware of it in the 90's and early 2000's but I always avoided it because the people who watched it were ..strange.    Every time I try to go back and watch one of the older ones I quickly lose interest and go play video games.
 
2013-04-21 02:38:56 PM
I remember anime in the 1990s. First I watched Ninja Scroll, and said to myself "wow that was badass!"

Then I watched Inachu Ping Pong Club, and said to myself "WTF Japan?!"
 
2013-04-21 02:41:30 PM

Mister Peejay: Because People in power are Stupid: No.
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well, I guess, if you like Twilight.


twi-what?
 
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