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(Daily Mail)   George W. Bush hopes his brother Jeb will run for President in 2016, that history will remember him kindly, and that pigs can indeed fly   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 217
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2013-04-21 03:56:01 PM

UNC_Samurai: I tend to agree with Weaver, though - the best thing that can happen in politics is fresh blood.  Nobody thought of Clinton six months after H.W. Bush's election in 1988.  Obama really didn't emerge nationally until 2004.  Instead of Clinton or Biden I'd like to see some newer faces.  Ideally, I'd like for Elizabeth Warren to run, but there's still too much wharrgarbl in the national voting population to elect someone that liberal.  My second tier of choices would include Martin O'Malley, Deval Patrick, Cory Booker, or Julio Castro.  Castro might need some seasoning at the gubernatorial or congressional level first, though.


I don't disagree with a single thing you said, but each President comes in his or her time, and not before. That's why Warren or Booker will not be ready for '16. It isn't their time yet. Or maybe it's more accurate to acknowledge...as the Republicans are doing...that's it's Hillary's time. Another 8 years will give the aspiring candidates that much more time to mature into what we will need from them as leaders.

It will also give the GOP time to grow and reflect, which our country desperately needs. A unitary government over the long haul is not a healthy thing, but IMO the GOP as it stands now is unfit to rule, so I hope to see them back again.
 
2013-04-21 04:05:33 PM

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: If it's Bush vs. Clinton again I'm done with you America.


I was thinking of speaking up before, but now that you've repeated it I have to ask:

When was it ever Bush vs. Clinton?
 
2013-04-21 04:08:29 PM
The GOP has moved so far to the right that even the retarded two-term President would most likely not be able to win the GOP nomination for President so there's no hope for Jeb to win the GOP nomination (which is a good thing as the Bush family should be in prison).

The GOP took all the wrong lessons from their loss in 2012. Instead of seeing what everyone else saw as to why R-money was a horrible candidate, they felt he lost because he wasn't conservative enough. So look forward to Santorum/Bachmann 2016.
 
2013-04-21 04:11:14 PM

Befuddled: So look forward to Santorum/Bachmann 2016.


I know I am...
 
2013-04-21 04:12:18 PM

Befuddled: The GOP has moved so far to the right that even the retarded two-term President would most likely not be able to win the GOP nomination for President so there's no hope for Jeb to win the GOP nomination (which is a good thing as the Bush family should be in prison).

The GOP took all the wrong lessons from their loss in 2012. Instead of seeing what everyone else saw as to why R-money was a horrible candidate, they felt he lost because he wasn't conservative enough. So look forward to Santorum/Bachmann 2016.



Yeah, like anyone would trust Frothy and Marcus in the same room.
 
2013-04-21 04:14:47 PM

stoli n coke: Yeah, like anyone would trust Frothy and Marcus in the same room.


That would be like a horrifying version of the Schmitt's Gay skit.
 
2013-04-21 04:19:20 PM

stoli n coke: Funny thing is, I've heard a few Republicans saying "Let's hear Jeb out. He's the smart one."


Why does so much Republican dialogue sound like it comes from Bonanza?
 
2013-04-21 04:32:35 PM
The chance I would vote for a Republican is already zero. Jeb Bush being the possible Republican candidate I'm not voting for doesn't change that at all since I can't really reduce the chance that I would vote for a Republican any more than I already have.
 
2013-04-21 04:37:38 PM

jcooli09: When was it ever Bush vs. Clinton?

                                1992
 
2013-04-21 04:38:17 PM

randomjsa: Well, so far Bush did far better than Obama has done even if you buy the liberals cherry picked facts to make things look better than they actually are.


Is it safe to assume you're prepared with examples?
 
2013-04-21 04:40:04 PM
No more Boomer presidents, ever. Hell, less boomers in any part of government. Everything they've touched has turned to shiat.
 
2013-04-21 04:41:15 PM

Relatively Obscure: Unrelated except for one picture, but I think I just may stop voting for any candidate who, at any time, rolls up his or her shirt sleeves.


You mean you want an end to the standard shot of candidate-walking-with-his-suit-jacket-held-by-one-finger-over-his-sho ulder, rolled-up-shirt-sleeves-optional?

It's opposed ta show he's a regulah guy ready ta get down to work fer da people!
 
2013-04-21 04:42:44 PM

LessO2: If Jeb were to become the Republican nominee, I could see a viable Democratic campaign based solely on the endorsement of Jeb Bush from George W.

Even if the Dems nominated a fish sandwich.


The problem would be finding a 35 year-old fish sandwich.
 
2013-04-21 04:44:29 PM
I think they are trying to become known as the family that destroyed America. Seems as though
the job is not yet complete so they are sending in the next moron to try and finish it off.
 
2013-04-21 04:45:10 PM

jake3988: Chris Christie has no chance in hell because he's seen as 'too moderate'.


I'm somewhat inclined to agree, though I think his brash personality would really hype up the base. Granted, it would also be off-putting to pretty much everyone else, but I wouldn't count Christie out yet.

that said, I think the Republican candidate in 2016 will have some of the same problems Romney had last year: the most electable candidates will be moderates (relative to the overall GOP attitude, i should add), but will need to walk a very thin tightrope to not piss off a very extremist base.
 
2013-04-21 04:46:00 PM

randomjsa: Well, so far Bush did far better than Obama has done even if you buy the liberals cherry picked facts to make things look better than they actually are.


memeorama.com
 
2013-04-21 05:01:07 PM

Whiskey Pete: Someone once described Bush The Lesser as "incurious". Made me chortle.


That was the late Christopher Hitchens, who had even initially supported him on the Iraq War.

"[George W. Bush] is lucky to be governor of Texas. He is unusually incurious, abnormally unintelligent, amazingly inarticulate, fantastically uncultured, extraordinarily uneducated, and apparently quite proud of all these things."

Sources: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/books-o b ituaries/8960233/Christopher-Hitchens-in-quotes.html

http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/2892.html


FFS, America...no more Bush-sh*t.
 
2013-04-21 05:03:50 PM

Blink: TheBigJerk: Dubya did practically EVERYTHING wrong. From stirring shiat in Israel to practically giving a handjob to China; from Faith-based initiatives to speeches saying, "a terrorist attack's coming, but I won't tell you where, boogity boo!" From tax cuts to Hurricane Katrina; From deregulation of banks (hell, everything) to Wall Street Bailouts; his list of failures is epic.

I'd like to point out that you forgot "No Child Left Behind" ... which essentially flushed the toilet on our most promising young minds in the quest for mediocrity.


Yep, so many things I can'[t even remember or list them all, and just about every single one has champions trying to rebrand or re-sell it as a great new idea.
 
2013-04-21 05:12:47 PM
Meanwhile, in Texas...

i28.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-21 05:23:15 PM
Did subby really just say that?

rogersnider.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-21 05:23:29 PM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


"28th Amendment

"No person related by marriage, or directly related more closely than a fifth cousin, to any President of the United States of the past 50 years, shall be eligible to be President of the United States."
 
2013-04-21 05:28:03 PM

Stone Meadow: I'm glad that made you feel good. Now here is a little something to make you feel even better: Bush so poisoned the waters for the GOP that they already know they can't beat Hillary in 2016.


"Clinton brings the stature and fundraising prowess of someone who's been in Washington for 20 years. But I also think that advantage is mitigated by voters' widespread mistrust of our established political leaders," Duncan said. "Republicans should look to the 2008 primary as a guide and nominate a fresh-faced outsider [who] can create the contrast Barack Obama did. Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are two of those transformative figures."
Oh please oh please.
 
2013-04-21 05:31:54 PM
www.charlock.org
 
2013-04-21 05:36:47 PM
At least Bush was hilarious to watch.
 
2013-04-21 05:46:16 PM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


1.bp.blogspot.com+www.marshu.com

Hard to believe there was a time when I disagreed with 95% of what you posted.
 
2013-04-21 05:49:31 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: cptjeff: Booker is going to put some time in in the Senate first. He'll be running for taking Lautenberg's seat in 2014, and will probably put some time in there, first. He'll be 54 11 years from now, still plenty young. He'll be in line for the 2024 run and beyond, giving Hillary her 2016/20 nominations.

Assuming he's still unmarried, would he get enough votes from "social conservatives" to win?

/ I don't care if a serving President is single, but I bet the Fundies do...
// aging demographics in 11 years may render my question moot...


Because he'll be drawing so many votes from the fundies to begin with?

We've elected an unmarried President before. Well, he was gay, and his long time partner had recently died, the emotional impact of which may have been a significant part of what made him such a miserable President, but...

Okay, so maybe he wouldn't want to use James Buchanan as a comparison.

Still, he's got 11 years to meet somebody and get married, I wouldn't start picking that apart as an issue until closer to the election.
 
2013-04-21 05:52:13 PM

randomjsa: Well, so far Bush did far better than Obama has done even if you buy the liberals cherry picked facts to make things look better than they actually are.




dtdstudios.com
 
2013-04-21 06:18:30 PM
If they're fit for the job and pass the qualifications and earn the seat in a fair election, I don't 'care' what their last name is.
 
2013-04-21 06:21:29 PM

Infernalist: If they're fit for the job and pass the qualifications and earn the seat in a fair election, I don't 'care' what their last name is.


You should...
 
2013-04-21 06:33:26 PM

derpy: Stone Meadow: I'm glad that made you feel good. Now here is a little something to make you feel even better: Bush so poisoned the waters for the GOP that they already know they can't beat Hillary in 2016.

"Clinton brings the stature and fundraising prowess of someone who's been in Washington for 20 years. But I also think that advantage is mitigated by voters' widespread mistrust of our established political leaders," Duncan said. "Republicans should look to the 2008 primary as a guide and nominate a fresh-faced outsider [who] can create the contrast Barack Obama did. Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are two of those transformative figures."

Oh please oh please.


Exactly. In any kind of rational world the Democrats would have a difficult time repeating after 8 years of holding the White House. Yet here we are with the GOP praying it can hold the House while conceding it has no chance of winning the WH. Moreover, without the gerrymandering after the 2010 census, the GOP would be finished as a national party.
 
2013-04-21 07:02:31 PM

randomjsa: Well, so far Bush did far better than Obama has done even if you buy the liberals cherry picked facts to make things look better than they actually are.


digboston.com
 
2013-04-21 07:08:22 PM

Brontes: Infernalist: If they're fit for the job and pass the qualifications and earn the seat in a fair election, I don't 'care' what their last name is.

You should...


I 'should' have another beer.

While I'm getting my beer, why don't you elaborate on why I should give one good goddamn what someone's name is if they're fit for the job, pass the qualifications and earn the seat in a fair election.
 
2013-04-21 07:12:02 PM

Infernalist: Brontes: Infernalist: If they're fit for the job and pass the qualifications and earn the seat in a fair election, I don't 'care' what their last name is.

You should...

I 'should' have another beer.

While I'm getting my beer, why don't you elaborate on why I should give one good goddamn what someone's name is if they're fit for the job, pass the qualifications and earn the seat in a fair election.


There.  Start with the words you yourself typed, enjoy your beer, and try to remember how the past few elections have gone, and consider the phrase "false premise".

/brewery IPA myself
 
2013-04-21 07:17:57 PM
Jeb Bush:  Because America wants its gas prices to quadruple and another war to funnel cash to the Rich yet again!
 
2013-04-21 07:19:33 PM

The Lone Gunman: I continue to be absolutely convinced that GWB never actually wanted to be President.

He wanted to SAY he was President in the same way a 6 year old says he wants to be President.  But he didn't want to do the work.  And with the people that surrounded him, he didn't have to.


I believe that was the selling point his handlers (Rove in particular) emphasized to him: "Hey, don't worry, we have your back. You'll just enjoy yourself as president and we'll take care of everything."
 
2013-04-21 08:17:18 PM
If you're comparing Bushes, George has set the bar so incredibly low that Jeb looks pretty farking awesome.
 
2013-04-21 08:17:50 PM

stoli n coke: Befuddled: [...]


Yeah, like anyone would trust Frothy and Marcus in the same room.


So who's the bottom?
 
2013-04-21 08:18:04 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: /oh, and quit giving Cheney new hearts already


It isn't like they can stop him.  He does have the Sankara Stones.
 
2013-04-21 08:21:18 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Even if the Dems nominated a fish sandwich.

The problem would be finding a 35 year-old fish sandwich.


No problem as long as the fish in the sandwich was 35 years old before being turned into a filet.  Orange Roughy, perhaps?

/yeah, unsubstainable fishing of species that live longer than we do!
 
2013-04-21 08:26:50 PM

dericwater: stoli n coke: Befuddled: [...]


Yeah, like anyone would trust Frothy and Marcus in the same room.

So who's the bottom?


Frothy, of course.
 
2013-04-21 08:33:05 PM

dericwater: stoli n coke: Befuddled: [...]


Yeah, like anyone would trust Frothy and Marcus in the same room.

So who's the bottom?



Ever see the last 10 minutes of Requiem for a Dream?
 
2013-04-21 08:33:36 PM
Farking war criminal should be incarcerated.
Along with Cheney.
 
2013-04-21 08:35:23 PM

JohnnyC: The chance I would vote for a Republican is already zero. Jeb Bush being the possible Republican candidate I'm not voting for doesn't change that at all since I can't really reduce the chance that I would vote for a Republican any more than I already have.


This! It's not just the horrible, soul-dead and often brain-dead people, it's their utterly farked-up policies. Unless there's another complete identity/policy swap between the parties, my husband and I will never vote for a Republican -- state, local, or national.
 
2013-04-21 08:38:13 PM

staplermofo: Relatively Obscure: Unrelated except for one picture, but I think I just may stop voting for any candidate who, at any time, rolls up his or her shirt sleeves.

What about if they're getting ready to punch people?
Nothing says "has staplermofo's vote" like a guy who rolls up his sleeves before punching people.


OK, but he's also got to have a handlebar mustache and a bowler hat.
 
2013-04-21 09:39:32 PM

Kurmudgeon: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Mostly older Christian historically Republican white folks.

Not every Christian is Republican, no matter how much some wish to make it appear so.
And I don't have to regret voting for Dubya because I didn't...ever.


I know. However, I *am* describing most of the people who admitted to me they voted for Bush the first time.
 
2013-04-21 10:54:02 PM
Do we really need another member of the same privileged family with ties to Saudi oil barons and secret organizations to be President?

At what point do we just say, "F♥ck it. I guess we're a monarchy now."
 
2013-04-22 12:00:14 AM
I hereby swear to rise in armed rebellion, and to exhort my fellow citizens to also so rise, when another member of that incredibly corrupt criminal family dares place its name upon an American ballot.
 
2013-04-22 12:31:49 AM
*makes mystical gesture*

[hurls the entire asteroid belt at the Bush family]
 
2013-04-22 12:38:30 AM
Oops, dammit.

I meant only to hurl all the "smaller than a basketball bodies of the asteroid belt" at the Bush family.

Now I have to move all the big ones back into their orbits. I think I just upset the guys supervising the Dawn probe.
 
2013-04-22 01:34:00 AM
Exerpt from article:

"...if Jeb were to run, on his merits and his track record....So I hope he will run.'
He does have plenty of thoughts when it comes to running for office...He does not believe he will suffer from his brother's low popularity during his two terms as president."


♫ ♪ Oh oh dreeeeeam weaver...♫♪

Must be nice to live in your own little world, where 'reality' is what you want it to be...
 
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