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2013-04-21 11:00:34 AM
Good luck with that.
 
2013-04-21 11:06:21 AM

MBrady: Relatively Obscure: Unrelated except for one picture, but I think I just may stop voting for any candidate who, at any time, rolls up his or her shirt sleeves.

then I guess you better stop voting for 0, since whenever he goes to a blue collar area, he doesn't have his spiffy jacket and tie on - and his sleeves are rolled up.   You know, so he can look like his is part of the working class and that he cares about you.


You've got me convinced. I'll never vote for Obama again.
 
2013-04-21 11:10:01 AM

nekom: Katrina could be forgiven as incompetence...  Iraq though? All him. Well, perhaps moreso Cheney but still, that was no screw up, that was an intentional clusterfark.


Putting a dipshiat with zero experience in charge of a major organization like FEMA and then being surprised when it doesn't work out? That's not the sort of incompetence that's in any way forgivable. It's hubris and dumbassery on a truly epic scale. And Cheney couldn't have done nearly as much damage if GWB had simply had the stones to stand up to him and say no. But for all of GWB's posing in cowboy hats and all of his manly-man posturing on his "ranch," that was too much for him to do.

So now he spends his days puttering around a mansion in Dallas in a bathrobe, painting dogs and his own bare feet, and occasionally he offers the world his opinions about how amazing his brother would be as President.
 
2013-04-21 11:11:13 AM

culebra: [i276.photobucket.com image 480x350]


It would be fitting if ten thousand people printed that out and sent it as a postcard to GWB.
 
2013-04-21 11:12:28 AM
If Jeb were to become the Republican nominee, I could see a viable Democratic campaign based solely on the endorsement of Jeb Bush from George W.

Even if the Dems nominated a fish sandwich.
 
2013-04-21 11:13:30 AM

Barricaded Gunman: And Cheney couldn't have done nearly as much damage if GWB had simply had the stones to stand up to him and say no. But for all of GWB's posing in cowboy hats and all of his manly-man posturing on his "ranch," that was too much for him to do.


According to the recent Cheney documentary, sometime into his second term, Bush started actually being president instead of just listening to Cheney all the time. There was a story about Iran or somesuch and everyone is sitting around the table throwing out options on how to deal with them. Cheney unsurprisingly advocated for a full-on invasion of whichever country they were talking about, and the rest of the room basically made him sit in the corner because that was his solution for every problem.

Bush and Cheney apparently hated each other by the end of the second term, which is probably why his presidency was only a slightly mitigated disaster.
 
2013-04-21 11:25:24 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Bush and Cheney apparently hated each other by the end of the second term, which is probably why his presidency was only a slightly mitigated disaster.


They deserve each other though. In hell, I hope they share a cell together.

As for Jeb Bush, I've had enough of that family. No more of them please.
 
2013-04-21 11:26:14 AM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


Somewhere, Benjamin Harrison's great-great-great-great-great-grandson weeps.
 
2013-04-21 11:26:51 AM

Lost Thought 00: cameroncrazy1984: he may run. He may even get the nomination. But no way in hell is he ever getting elected.

Depends entirely on whether he can convince enough Hispanics that he's more like Dubya than the more Recent Republican incarnations.


that's pretty much my thoughts too. I think Jeb would certainly get some hardcore opposition from the Democrats, but I'm not convinced that it would necessarily be that big of a deal to everyone else.
 
2013-04-21 11:37:37 AM
GWB is such an asshole that he probably hopes Jeb runs and loses. GWB has some sick competition issues with his family - one factor in the cause of the Iraq war was that he was trying to outdo his daddy who didn't invade and go after Saddam. GWB would love to cement his place in history as "the most successful Bush".
 
2013-04-21 11:40:50 AM
i1162.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-21 11:41:17 AM

MBrady: Relatively Obscure: Unrelated except for one picture, but I think I just may stop voting for any candidate who, at any time, rolls up his or her shirt sleeves.

then I guess you better stop voting for 0, since whenever he goes to a blue collar area, he doesn't have his spiffy jacket and tie on - and his sleeves are rolled up.   You know, so he can look like his is part of the working class and that he cares about you.


0/10
Civics Fail.
 
2013-04-21 11:42:03 AM

Whiskey Pete: [i1162.photobucket.com image 71x75]


I also meant to add the dignity needs to be restored to the White House.
 
2013-04-21 11:44:22 AM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


Then don't vote for them.

/is it really that had?
 
2013-04-21 11:46:40 AM
The horror...the horror.
 
2013-04-21 11:47:11 AM
Bush basically allowed others to do his homework for him , as he had done for many years,decades really, thereby allowing Cheney, Rumsfeld  mand the other NeoCONs to call the tune, and then he had Rove stand in as Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda , so that he didn't really need to pay too much attention to anything important. He was a place holder until he (maybe) sent Cheney to the Corner to sit and STFU.

Because of these fundamental mistakes due to his weak character, he will be remembered as the Worst POTUS, bar none.
 
2013-04-21 11:50:16 AM

Mugato: Is he farking high?


He behaves strangely and from his looks, my guess he's plugging something.

images.politico.com
 
2013-04-21 11:50:48 AM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


As long as the person elected to the run the country is educated, capable, and sensible, I don't care what their last name is, if I'm honest with you.  I don't vote at the ballot box based on the last names of the people running, I vote based on their platforms and whether or not I think they'll do a decent job in the White House.  A monarchy is hereditary rule, no elections, no campaigning.  If Hillary Clinton ran for President in 2016, are you seriously saying you wouldn't vote for her, even if she was far and away the best person for the job, simply because her husband held the post for 8 years?  Come on.
 
2013-04-21 11:51:39 AM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


came here to say that
found it said
thank you
 
2013-04-21 11:53:26 AM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


Pretty much this.  The two Bushes guaranteed that Jeb would never be elected no matter how much more qualified he is compared to the previous ones.
 
2013-04-21 11:54:00 AM

HairBolus: GWB is such an asshole that he probably hopes Jeb runs and loses. GWB has some sick competition issues with his family - one factor in the cause of the Iraq war was that he was trying to outdo his daddy who didn't invade and go after Saddam. GWB would love to cement his place in history as "the most successful Bush".


Only 2-term President in the family so far. So I'd say he's nailed it.
 
2013-04-21 11:55:50 AM
Someone once described Bush The Lesser as "incurious". Made me chortle.
 
2013-04-21 11:56:43 AM
I still blame Barbara for raising social-ladder climbing sociopaths.
 
2013-04-21 11:57:06 AM

DamnYankees: Mugato: Is he farking high?

On life paint thinner!


ftfy
 
2013-04-21 11:58:57 AM
Romney should run again.

Seriously.


*snerk*
 
2013-04-21 12:07:43 PM

nekom: UNC_Samurai: nekom: All the political capital in the world after 9/11, the full support of the nation for the most part, huge approval ratings, etc.   Then Iraq.  If it weren't for that, his legacy would be pretty decent.  But, well we all know what happened after that.

And Katrina.  And helping push the economy off the cliff.

Katrina could be forgiven as incompetence. The economy is only partially the responsibility of the President. Iraq though? All him. Well, perhaps moreso Cheney but still, that was no screw up, that was an intentional clusterfark.


Do you mean in terms of politics or in terms of leadership?

Dubya did practically EVERYTHING wrong.  From stirring shiat in Israel to practically giving a handjob to China; from Faith-based initiatives to speeches saying, "a terrorist attack's coming,  but I won't tell you where, boogity boo!"  From tax cuts to Hurricane Katrina; From deregulation of banks (hell, everything) to Wall Street Bailouts; his list of failures is epic.  But the only one people remember, the only one that people care about and admit HE (still won't admit "we" despite a majority of Americans supporting invasion in 2003 and a majority claiming they "never supported it" in 2007) invaded Iraq.

Like tagging Al Capone for Tax Evasion, it may be the best we can get.  But like that age-old example it's frustrating that a man with so many demonstrably terrible policies is only tarred and feathered with his least exciting failure.  The whole country (or at least a majority) was behind the invasion and dancing with glee as the mighty US army stomped all over Saddam's shiatty army.  Of all his many, many failings Iraq is the stone-blind-retarded policy farkup that the rest of the nation most shares blame for, yet it is the one Bush is most blamed for.  He's practically a scapegoat (okay, maybe that's too far) and while he's still MILES away from "innocent" on the topic, he is about as close as he ever gets.

I never supported invasion of Iraq, too many lessons in history and Middle Eastern politics from friends and acquaintances and internets taught me it was going to be a bad idea.  I was wrong about plenty of details and a little more Alex Jones-style conspiracy-monger than I'd care to admit but them's the breaks.  But I accept that I could have made a better case, I could have fought harder, I could have focused on down-ticket elections and tried to educate instead of denigrate when a Patriot was repeating foolish lies.

And the thing that truly chaps my hide about this is not Bush being wrongfully accused or all the journalists and politicians and people like you and me abdicating responsibility on the crime of the Iraq clusterfark.  What gets me is the fact that every OTHER failure is eclipsed, overshadowed, and quietly reclaimed by people who want to keep repeating those failures.  Bush 2's legacy is still being polished, rebranded, and spun by people who want the most important (to them) parts back online as soon as possible.  Disaster capitalism, corporate kleptocracy, and neofeudalism are still the operating principles and despite 33 years and counting of proof these things don't work we're only talking about Gee-Dub's Iraq Debacle.

But anyways, yeah, in terms of political capital it's like you said, Dubya went from richest man evar to deeply in debt (money = political capital in this metaphor) over Iraq.
 
2013-04-21 12:07:45 PM

teto85: [blu.stb.s-msn.com image 628x316]


I always thought that was the greatest thing about America.. You can go from the most powerful man in the world to eccentric old man who everyone laughs at the second you leave office.  It's pretty unique in world history tbh.

Also he sucks at painting.
 
2013-04-21 12:08:51 PM

EvilEgg: It is a pity that the smarter brother has his chances ruined by the lesser.

/or at least I hope they're ruined
//we don't need any more Bush.


No more bush? Welcome to the 90's.
 
2013-04-21 12:14:26 PM

Delay: Mugato: Is he farking high?

He behaves strangely and from his looks, my guess he's plugging something.

[images.politico.com image 465x394]


See at first I assumed you meant, "selling" but now I'm not so sure.  Is "plugging" also slang for some form of drug usage (no I can guess what method thank you)?

*checks Urban DIctionary*

Go figure, I preferred the sales-related definition.

Probably because I'm boring.
 
2013-04-21 12:15:44 PM
"He told the Dallas Morning News that people are surprised to know he likes to paint. 'Of course, some people are surprised I can even read,' he said."

He's so likable.  I just want to have a beer with him.
 
2013-04-21 12:17:27 PM
This just diamond-hard proof that Dubya has not learned a damn thing from his eight years of inflicting Hell on Earth, has not an atom of remorse for what he has done, and has yet to receive even the wettest noodle of punishment for it.
 
2013-04-21 12:21:13 PM

LessO2: If Jeb were to become the Republican nominee, I could see a viable Democratic campaign based solely on the endorsement of Jeb Bush from George W.

Even if the Dems nominated a fish sandwich.


I do not know if they would actually do this, but all it would take is to point out that the last two Bush's took our nation to war and left office with the country in recession.
 
2013-04-21 12:24:24 PM
The Retardican line of succession indicates that Santorum will be 2016's candidate.  Which means that by 2020, Jeb could be next in line.

Only problem is that, by then, the complete failure that was the Bush II administration will have been laid bare for all to see for a number of years.  Time will be a detriment, rather than the amnesiac this asshole family assumes it will be.

Maybe Jeb can just find a nice closet to hide in.

/but seriously, Rebpulicans
//bring that fat motherf*cker on
///do it
 
2013-04-21 12:26:51 PM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


This.  Politics is NOT a family business.  Tell Jeb to find a personality of his own.
 
2013-04-21 12:30:02 PM

blastoh: LessO2: If Jeb were to become the Republican nominee, I could see a viable Democratic campaign based solely on the endorsement of Jeb Bush from George W.

Even if the Dems nominated a fish sandwich.

I do not know if they would actually do this, but all it would take is to point out that the last two Bush's took our nation to war and left office with the country in recession.


Absolutely not. If the campaigns of John Kerry and Mitt Romney taught us anything it's that a campaign based on "I'm not that guy" is insufficient.
 
2013-04-21 12:31:09 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Bush and Cheney apparently hated each other by the end of the second term,


which is why they deserve to be locked in a small windowless room together for the rest of their miserable lives.

/oh, and quit giving Cheney new hearts already
 
2013-04-21 12:32:23 PM

Coco LaFemme: Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.

As long as the person elected to the run the country is educated, capable, and sensible, I don't care what their last name is, if I'm honest with you.  I don't vote at the ballot box based on the last names of the people running, I vote based on their platforms and whether or not I think they'll do a decent job in the White House.  A monarchy is hereditary rule, no elections, no campaigning.  If Hillary Clinton ran for President in 2016, are you seriously saying you wouldn't vote for her, even if she was far and away the best person for the job, simply because her husband held the post for 8 years?  Come on.


Thank you. It's easy to grab onto Weaver's emotional coattails over the whole dynasty thing, but the term doesn't really apply in Hillary's case, as subsequent to Bill's terms in office she has build her own legacy of service and accomplishment. If she runs again I will happily vote for her as I am confident she is the best qualified candidate for the job.

Jeb Bush? Now there is a clear cut case of dynasty marketing. He hasn't done jack shiat since leaving office and his name is ONLY being floated as a hook for that tiny percent of old white folks who pine for the 'good old days' under Dubya. Jesus, what a cynical job that is.
 
2013-04-21 12:34:06 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: So Chris Christie, Elizabeth Warren, Marcus Rubio (no chance in hell), Michelle Bachmann (no chance in hell), Hillary Clinton, and Jeb Bush all running in 2016. Interesting.


Cuomo.
 
2013-04-21 12:34:09 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I wish this family would just go the way of the Kennedys.


i.imgur.com

Well, they could let Laura drive more often.
 
2013-04-21 12:35:51 PM

TheBigJerk: nekom: UNC_Samurai: nekom: All the political capital in the world after 9/11, the full support of the nation for the most part, huge approval ratings, etc.   Then Iraq.  If it weren't for that, his legacy would be pretty decent.  But, well we all know what happened after that.

And Katrina.  And helping push the economy off the cliff.

Katrina could be forgiven as incompetence. The economy is only partially the responsibility of the President. Iraq though? All him. Well, perhaps moreso Cheney but still, that was no screw up, that was an intentional clusterfark.

Do you mean in terms of politics or in terms of leadership?

Dubya did practically EVERYTHING wrong.  From stirring shiat in Israel to practically giving a handjob to China; from Faith-based initiatives to speeches saying, "a terrorist attack's coming,  but I won't tell you where, boogity boo!"  From tax cuts to Hurricane Katrina; From deregulation of banks (hell, everything) to Wall Street Bailouts; his list of failures is epic.  But the only one people remember, the only one that people care about and admit HE (still won't admit "we" despite a majority of Americans supporting invasion in 2003 and a majority claiming they "never supported it" in 2007) invaded Iraq.

Like tagging Al Capone for Tax Evasion, it may be the best we can get.  But like that age-old example it's frustrating that a man with so many demonstrably terrible policies is only tarred and feathered with his least exciting failure.  The whole country (or at least a majority) was behind the invasion and dancing with glee as the mighty US army stomped all over Saddam's shiatty army.  Of all his many, many failings Iraq is the stone-blind-retarded policy farkup that the rest of the nation most shares blame for, yet it is the one Bush is most blamed for.  He's practically a scapegoat (okay, maybe that's too far) and while he's still MILES away from "innocent" on the topic, he is about as close as he ever gets.

I never supported invasion of Iraq ...


Well put.
 
2013-04-21 12:37:11 PM
I continue to be absolutely convinced that GWB never actually wanted to be President.

He wanted to SAY he was President in the same way a 6 year old says he wants to be President.  But he didn't want to do the work.  And with the people that surrounded him, he didn't have to.
 
2013-04-21 12:38:16 PM

Stone Meadow: Coco LaFemme: Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.

As long as the person elected to the run the country is educated, capable, and sensible, I don't care what their last name is, if I'm honest with you.  I don't vote at the ballot box based on the last names of the people running, I vote based on their platforms and whether or not I think they'll do a decent job in the White House.  A monarchy is hereditary rule, no elections, no campaigning.  If Hillary Clinton ran for President in 2016, are you seriously saying you wouldn't vote for her, even if she was far and away the best person for the job, simply because her husband held the post for 8 years?  Come on.

Thank you. It's easy to grab onto Weaver's emotional coattails over the whole dynasty thing, but the term doesn't really apply in Hillary's case, as subsequent to Bill's terms in office she has build her own legacy of service and accomplishment. If she runs again I will happily vote for her as I am confident she is the best qualified candidate for the job.

Jeb Bush? Now there is a clear cut case of dynasty marketing. He hasn't done jack shiat since leaving office and his name is ONLY being floated as a hook for that tiny percent of old white folks who pine for the 'good old days' under Dubya. Jesus, what a cynical job that is.


Thanks to you both.  Or I guess, THIS to you both.

While I'm also not crazy about having another president named Clinton, I think Hilary would do a fantastic job.  I just wish she weren't as old as she is.  Or as old as she would be by the time she ran.  But maybe that's not a huge deal.

And, Weaver, I totally get where you're coming from.  But if the country endured another "name-repeat" presidency, at least it would be with one where the precedent (ha!) actually knew what the f*ck he was doing and left the country in tremendously better shape than he found it.
 
2013-04-21 12:41:04 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: teto85: [blu.stb.s-msn.com image 628x316]

I always thought that was the greatest thing about America.. You can go from the most powerful man in the world to eccentric old man who everyone laughs at the second you leave office.  It's pretty unique in world history tbh.

Also he sucks at painting.


You know who else should have just stuck with shiatty paintings instead of getting into politics?

/That's right- Taft!
 
2013-04-21 12:41:18 PM
Dubya will go down as the stupidest president in history.  Oh, I suppose folks like Cal Thomas and Charles Krauthammer will remember him "kindly," but that's about it.  If Jeb ran, it would be even worse for Dubya, because Jeb will appear to be able to walk and chew a pretzel at the same time.  And who doesn't have to bring his fingerpaintings to mommy for approval.
 
2013-04-21 12:41:41 PM
WIth enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.
 
2013-04-21 12:42:43 PM

Cargo: The Retardican line of succession indicates that Santorum will be 2016's candidate


I'm not convinced this will be the case. Sure, past trends indicate that this will possibly be the case, though I think it overlooks just how awful the 2012 Republican field was and how little the Republican base really liked Romney.  I'm sure Santorum will run in 2016 and may even be an initial frontrunner, but I think the field will be  stronger* than 2012 and Santorum will have been largely politically irrelevant (read: out of office) for a decade; to say nothing of his inability to win his home state in 2012.


* relatively. This is even factoring in a heavily-baggaged Jeb Bush.
 
2013-04-21 12:43:47 PM

Weaver95: No more dynasties . No more bushes, no more Clintons, no more Romney, no more kennedys. I don't want to see the same names over and over again and again. We are NOT a monarchy.


Weaver95,

Think about this: From 1952-2004 there was only ONE national election that did not have a Nixon, Dole, or Bush on the ticket, either as the VP or POTUS candidate.  (The 1964 candidacy of Goldwater/Miller)
 
2013-04-21 12:45:46 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: If it's Bush vs. Clinton again I'm done with you America.

 
2013-04-21 12:46:38 PM

DoctorOfLove: WIth enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.


One of my favorite sayings.
 
2013-04-21 12:47:19 PM
well in george's silver spoon world, all you have to do is hope and pray.
 
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