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2013-04-21 01:11:25 PM  

Jeep2011: You see women talk in code that men cannot understand due to the misogynist aspect of human society. When a woman does speak freely she is called a biatch or worse. When a woman is sexually free she is called a slut or worse. Therefore, men will never understand women until a woman can be on equal terms as men in society.



Can't agree with this at all.

Men don't "speak freely".  If we come off as too aggressive for our position, we get labelled as "assholes" or whatever, just like a woman gets labelled a "biatch".  There's a middle ground, where you express yourself WITHOUT being overly aggressive/demeaning/etc.  Women who make the "if we speak freely, we're 'biatches'" argument seem to not understand that middle ground, only going from keeping quiet to speaking their unfiltered thoughts and getting lambasted for them due to that lack of filter.

Men filter.  Men filter constantly, since we can't speak our minds about nearly anything.  We are not communicating what we're  actually thinking.  Speech, to a man, isn't about unleashing your inner monologue, it's about sending off a message to elicit a response that you desire.

If you're late with a project, your male boss is likely to poke his head in and say "The report was due an hour ago, what's the holdup?"  You then have a chance to explain the holdup, and if your excuse makes sense, he'll work out an adjustment.  If it doesn't, THEN he'll unleash the anger he's repressing and ream you out for slacking.  A female boss of the type who complains about being labelled as a "biatch" is more likely to simply express her anger right out of the gate, meaning the employee is now fighting back against a torrent of anger, even if they do have a good excuse.

There's plenty of women who  don't do this, and thus don't have that problem.  If you're being called a biatch because you're "expressing yourself freely", it's because you're a biatch and you're not trying to hide the fact.  Men who are assholes typically  do try to hide that, unless the person they're talking to is lower enough on the totem pole they don't care to.  And men who just act their inner asshole definitely get called assholes; look at Donald Trump.  He's an asshole.  People call him names all the time because of how he acts, because he has no filter.
 
2013-04-21 01:12:04 PM  
Women are individuals just like men are. Real human beings, not symbols and projections from mens' minds.

If you try to take your experiences from one woman and apply them to another as if they were exactly the same, of course you're going to be confused.

If you treat women as projections of your own mind and have any inkling of reality, you're gonna experience a lot of cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-04-21 01:12:27 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: birdbrain777
Weaver, I concur, she wants you, and if you wait too long you will miss out.

I disagree. I think she's a cocktease and enjoys playing with you.

Although there's merit in the idea that she wants to be farkbuddies. Clear that up with her, Weaver. And if that's what she wants and if you're up for that kind of relationship then you should invite her over to spend the night. Otherwise ask her to that that shiat to hotornot.com or whatever the equivalent is these days.

Being a farkbuddy is like renting a really awesome apartment. A young person's game, a fun experience, but it hurts when it's time to move on (which comes oh so fast).


My wife's interpretation if Weaver's story follows:

If she were dtf she would hint at what they might look like until he suggested she come over and show him. Since she went ahead and sent photos unsolicited he is friendzoned so hard he might as well have a vagina.
 
2013-04-21 01:13:10 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Men are used to waking up as the same person every day.  Their internal balances don't vary nearly as much as women's.  The idea that a woman reserves the right to change her mind is because women are different people on different days, especially young women who aren't as used to dealing with their hormonal changes.  Men need to be flexible in dealing with women, don't expect consistency, especially emotionally.


Instead of shifting the burden to men, how 'bout women take responsibility for their actions? I've had days that I've been seething with anger (for various reasons), but I've always treated my partner with courtesy and respect instead of blowing up and then proclaiming that it wasn't my fault. I get that uncontrolled hormonal changes can affect feelings, but your actions as a result of those feelings are entirely within your control.
 
2013-04-21 01:13:12 PM  

Egalitarian: Women are individuals just like men are. Real human beings, not symbols and projections from mens' minds.

If you try to take your experiences from one woman and apply them to another as if they were exactly the same, of course you're going to be confused.

If you treat women as projections of your own mind and have any inkling of reality, you're gonna experience a lot of cognitive dissonance.


Amen.  Have some gander sauce.
 
2013-04-21 01:15:33 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Men are used to waking up as the same person every day.  Their internal balances don't vary nearly as much as women's.  The idea that a woman reserves the right to change her mind is because women are different people on different days, especially young women who aren't as used to dealing with their hormonal changes.  Men need to be flexible in dealing with women, don't expect consistency, especially emotionally.


Men get moody too, you know.

I mean, Jesus, case in point: this thread is practically a pout-fest.

It's true that the average thresholds are different but it's not that extreme (and with significant overlap!)
 
2013-04-21 01:16:33 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Jeep2011: You see women talk in code that men cannot understand due to the misogynist aspect of human society. When a woman does speak freely she is called a biatch or worse. When a woman is sexually free she is called a slut or worse. Therefore, men will never understand women until a woman can be on equal terms as men in society.

I have a headache means I do not want sex right now or you do it so poorly I would prefer a vibrator and pretend Brad Pit is screwing me while Angelina Jolie films us, or when a woman claims she is unsure in a business setting she just does not want to make men feel like they are stupid and have small a small penis.

Or women and men are just strange.

/I have no idea

/DNRTFA

/wish women would keep wearing yoga pants and no bras

/FNORD

See above. It was literally five minutes apart which was why I noticed it. I actually read the comments in the thread.


Yes I know. You are very serious. I apologize I thought this was Fark.  Thank you for playing. I wish you a great day. Now back to regularly scheduled thread.
 
2013-04-21 01:17:14 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: WhippingBoy: Holy crap, no kidding. I can't count the times I've thought to myself "It's been 15 minutes of non-stop talking, and I *still* have no idea what she wants from me or what the problem is".

She just wants you to listen. Maintain eye contact and throw in a "Really?" or "Why's that?" every so often. More often than not there isn't a problem or solution. They just want to hear "Yeah that's so inconsiderate of that other person."


We (women and I'm speaking in SUPER generalistic terms blah blah blah) have a need for emotional decompression. We do NOT want you to problem solve when we're doing this. We want empathy and decompression. When we are looking to problem solve, we're VERY clear about it and it's a completely different approach. The 'non-stop' talking is our decompression. When we want/seek advice, it's more conversational. We *need* one sided conversations for dumping, we just do.

We have a *need* for this, we really do. And if your woman stops doing this with you...it's a very bad sign. But don't tune us out completely, try to at least follow the jist. We want you to give a shiat about us, and it's about the feelings on this one.
 
2013-04-21 01:20:02 PM  

Lady Indica: She just wants you to listen. Maintain eye contact and throw in a "Really?" or "Why's that?" every so often. More often than not there isn't a problem or solution. They just want to hear "Yeah that's so inconsiderate of that other person."


guestofaguest.com

"I told you that b*tch crazy!'
 
2013-04-21 01:20:46 PM  
WhippingBoy:

There's one key point you're missing. There's a HUGE difference between an assertive, ambitious, confident woman and a "biatch". People don't consider women to be biatches because they're assertive and direct; they consider them to be biatches because they're, well, biatches. The difference usually boils down to self-confidence. I honestly don't know any man who would regard a woman who spok ...

Well of course there's an upper limit, men and women alike are equally capable of being assholes.  I can't actually tell my boss to go fark himself either, at least not without repercussions.  Personally, though, I typically use "biatchiness" to mean that weird catty, passive-aggressive vindictiveness that women use because they think they can't get away with just straightforward aggressiveness and assertiveness.  That doesn't mean that women don't have to deal with a drastically stricter standard for how much is too far, however, and that different treatment is what I have a problem with.

Similarly, while I consider myself a very feminist-leaning man, there's a certain mentality among SOME feminists that basically amounts to "everything I don't like that happens in the history of ever is immediate and direct proof that men hate and fear all women."  Not to put too fine a point on it, but let's call it the Jezebel complex.  There are absolutely very real cases of widespread sexism and gender discrimination in our society, but that doesn't mean that there aren't women who drastically overcompensate, and the persecution complex makes them thoroughly unreliable, with an option on totally insane.  I don't feel any complication in supporting feminism but opposing them, any more than I feel in about gun owners vs. the NRA, drunk driving vs. MADD, or christians vs. WBC.
 
2013-04-21 01:21:25 PM  

Jeep2011: kiwimoogle84: Jeep2011: You see women talk in code that men cannot understand due to the misogynist aspect of human society. When a woman does speak freely she is called a biatch or worse. When a woman is sexually free she is called a slut or worse. Therefore, men will never understand women until a woman can be on equal terms as men in society.

I have a headache means I do not want sex right now or you do it so poorly I would prefer a vibrator and pretend Brad Pit is screwing me while Angelina Jolie films us, or when a woman claims she is unsure in a business setting she just does not want to make men feel like they are stupid and have small a small penis.

Or women and men are just strange.

/I have no idea

/DNRTFA

/wish women would keep wearing yoga pants and no bras

/FNORD

See above. It was literally five minutes apart which was why I noticed it. I actually read the comments in the thread.

Yes I know. You are very serious. I apologize I thought this was Fark.  Thank you for playing. I wish you a great day. Now back to regularly scheduled thread.


You didn't address my point though. Women's intelligence has nothing to do with tits and ass. So...what you were saying was "I don't want to understand her anyway as long as she looks good."

But whatever. I'll get back in the kitchen now.
 
2013-04-21 01:25:17 PM  
Men evolved, women didn't. All the behaviors you see in women whether it's in junior high school cliques or Junior League politics are the same ones you'll see in the core matriarchy of any monkey troop anywhere in the world.

www.solartaxi.com
 
2013-04-21 01:27:22 PM  

WhippingBoy: Instead of shifting the burden to men, how 'bout women take responsibility for their actions? I've had days that I've been seething with anger (for various reasons), but I've always treated my partner with courtesy and respect instead of blowing up and then proclaiming that it wasn't my fault. I get that uncontrolled hormonal changes can affect feelings, but your actions as a result of those feelings are entirely within your control.


You can't be held responsible for anyone else's feelings.
 
2013-04-21 01:27:37 PM  

Lady Indica: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: WhippingBoy: Holy crap, no kidding. I can't count the times I've thought to myself "It's been 15 minutes of non-stop talking, and I *still* have no idea what she wants from me or what the problem is".

She just wants you to listen. Maintain eye contact and throw in a "Really?" or "Why's that?" every so often. More often than not there isn't a problem or solution. They just want to hear "Yeah that's so inconsiderate of that other person."

We (women and I'm speaking in SUPER generalistic terms blah blah blah) have a need for emotional decompression. We do NOT want you to problem solve when we're doing this. We want empathy and decompression. When we are looking to problem solve, we're VERY clear about it and it's a completely different approach. The 'non-stop' talking is our decompression. When we want/seek advice, it's more conversational. We *need* one sided conversations for dumping, we just do.

We have a *need* for this, we really do. And if your woman stops doing this with you...it's a very bad sign. But don't tune us out completely, try to at least follow the jist. We want you to give a shiat about us, and it's about the feelings on this one.


Everything you said is true.

My angst on the subject is when I say I need to vent and proceed to do so, previous girlfriends have said, "Why are you bothering me with this shiat?"

Protip gents: I've learned the hard way that this is a solid cue to say "Yeah, well, now you know how I feel" and end the relationship to find someone wiser (or at least less selfish). ;)

If you say you want equality, don't complain when you get equality.

/the current girlfriend's done alright, she might be a keeper
 
2013-04-21 01:30:41 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Lady Indica: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: WhippingBoy: Holy crap, no kidding. I can't count the times I've thought to myself "It's been 15 minutes of non-stop talking, and I *still* have no idea what she wants from me or what the problem is".

She just wants you to listen. Maintain eye contact and throw in a "Really?" or "Why's that?" every so often. More often than not there isn't a problem or solution. They just want to hear "Yeah that's so inconsiderate of that other person."

We (women and I'm speaking in SUPER generalistic terms blah blah blah) have a need for emotional decompression. We do NOT want you to problem solve when we're doing this. We want empathy and decompression. When we are looking to problem solve, we're VERY clear about it and it's a completely different approach. The 'non-stop' talking is our decompression. When we want/seek advice, it's more conversational. We *need* one sided conversations for dumping, we just do.

We have a *need* for this, we really do. And if your woman stops doing this with you...it's a very bad sign. But don't tune us out completely, try to at least follow the jist. We want you to give a shiat about us, and it's about the feelings on this one.

Everything you said is true.

My angst on the subject is when I say I need to vent and proceed to do so, previous girlfriends have said, "Why are you bothering me with this shiat?"

Protip gents: I've learned the hard way that this is a solid cue to say "Yeah, well, now you know how I feel" and end the relationship to find someone wiser (or at least less selfish). ;)

If you say you want equality, don't complain when you get equality.

/the current girlfriend's done alright, she might be a keeper


I second this. Considering the fact that Mr Kiwi is abnormally closed off 99% of the time, I cherish when he actually does open up. I vent at him a lot- he doesn't care. As soon as he gets going about something, I instantly shut up and pay attention. It happens very rarely, just who he is, and I'm trying to prove that for once, he's got someone that gives a shiat what he has to say.
 
2013-04-21 01:31:00 PM  

Jeep2011: You see women talk in code that men cannot understand due to the misogynist aspect of human society. When a woman does speak freely she is called a biatch or worse. When a woman is sexually free she is called a slut or worse. Therefore, men will never understand women until a woman can be on equal terms as men in society.

I have a headache means I do not want sex right now or you do it so poorly I would prefer a vibrator and pretend Brad Pit is screwing me while Angelina Jolie films us, or when a woman claims she is unsure in a business setting she just does not want to make men feel like they are stupid and have small a small penis.

Or women and men are just strange.

/I have no idea

/DNRTFA

/wish women would keep wearing yoga pants and no bras

/FNORD


I'm not a feminist or quick to claim misogyny, but I've noticed at work that my directness draws criticism ("that was abrupt", "you're very east coast") while a guy who does the same thing gets praised for getting to the heart of the matter. I'm not rude, I just like to keep meetings I lead moving along by steering back to the topic when people digress.

I won't touch the 'slut vs stud' topic because no one's called me slutty so I have no horse in that race, but you do get a subtle impression of disapproval at times.
 
2013-04-21 01:31:28 PM  

lewismarktwo: My uncle married late and his wife has diagnosed BPD (that she hid from him of course) and it has basically ruined him.  He has to sneak around to talk to his family and friends and she constantly threatens him with horrible things like hurting herself and the kids.  She basically owns him like a slave.


I feel for him, I know what it can do. But "fortunately" BPD persons are often more bark than bite, so if you figure that one out, it'll be much easier to deal with them.
 
2013-04-21 01:33:45 PM  

fluffy2097: We just take you at your word.

<man>"are you ok?"
<woman, clearly upset>"I'm fine."
<man>.oO(I guess she wants some privacy) Ok, see you later.
<woman>WHY DIDN'T HE DO ANYTHING FOR ME!!?!?!?!?!?!


strange
women complain when men treat them as equals.
more importantly, LEAVE US THE FARK ALONE when we are upset.
NO we dont want to talk it out.

FFS

/men are from mars and women are from venus did a great job articulating that men and women are different.
 
2013-04-21 01:33:48 PM  
I know women's intelligence has nothing to do with the way she looks. I have met a lot of women who society deems beautiful but I do not see it because they lack intelligence. Yet I know a lot of intelligent women who seem beautiful to me because of their intelligence that society would not think of as beautiful.  You also miss judged the joke, I did read the article, and you did not see the Fnords.

Oh and by the way stay out of the Farking kitchen because I am the one who makes the meals! I am I great chef if I do say so my self.

Not that I am a real chef I just cook well.

/Sorry I made you mad
/ If you like chicken curry I will make some for you
/I am told it is fantastic
/all the intelligent women in my life say so
 
2013-04-21 01:36:57 PM  

frithperson: Jeep2011: You see women talk in code that men cannot understand due to the misogynist aspect of human society. When a woman does speak freely she is called a biatch or worse. When a woman is sexually free she is called a slut or worse. Therefore, men will never understand women until a woman can be on equal terms as men in society.

I have a headache means I do not want sex right now or you do it so poorly I would prefer a vibrator and pretend Brad Pit is screwing me while Angelina Jolie films us, or when a woman claims she is unsure in a business setting she just does not want to make men feel like they are stupid and have small a small penis.

Or women and men are just strange.

/I have no idea

/DNRTFA

/wish women would keep wearing yoga pants and no bras

/FNORD

I'm not a feminist or quick to claim misogyny, but I've noticed at work that my directness draws criticism ("that was abrupt", "you're very east coast") while a guy who does the same thing gets praised for getting to the heart of the matter. I'm not rude, I just like to keep meetings I lead moving along by steering back to the topic when people digress.

I won't touch the 'slut vs stud' topic because no one's called me slutty so I have no horse in that race, but you do get a subtle impression of disapproval at times.

That is what I was saying.
 
2013-04-21 01:37:27 PM  

Lady Indica: She just wants you to listen. Maintain eye contact and throw in a "Really?" or "Why's that?" every so often. More often than not there isn't a problem or solution. They just want to hear "Yeah that's so inconsiderate of that other person."

We (women and I'm speaking in SUPER generalistic terms blah blah blah) have a need for emotional decompression. We do NOT want you to problem solve when we're doing this. We want empathy and decompression. When we are looking to problem solve, we're VERY clear about it and it's a completely different approach. The 'non-stop' talking is our decompression. When we want/seek advice, it's more conversational. We *need* one sided conversations for dumping, we just do.

We have a *need* for this, we really do. And if your woman stops doing this with you...it's a very bad sign. But don't tune us out completely, try to at least follow the jist. We want you to give a shiat about us, and it's about the feelings on this one.


THIS is what your girlfriends were for before you were in a relationship. WHY does it magically become the guys job?
Sure, sometimes we can do this. But we are BAD at it. TERRIBLE at it.
We are BUILT to SOLVE problems!!!

him: So your boss grabbed your ass at work?!!! WTF. We are hiring a lawyer! You are suing that company for harassment and you will win millions.
her: no. we cant do that. I just wanted to complain about work. it is so unfair that women are treated that way.
him: GREAT!!! We are so suing them!!! We will be able to retire!!!
her: no. I dont want to make waves
 
2013-04-21 01:38:27 PM  
American women are the most privilaged human beings to ever walk the face of the earth.
 
2013-04-21 01:39:05 PM  

Jeep2011: /I am told it is fantastic


Patak's or scratch with mortar and pestle?
 
2013-04-21 01:39:22 PM  

Jeep2011: I know women's intelligence has nothing to do with the way she looks. I have met a lot of women who society deems beautiful but I do not see it because they lack intelligence. Yet I know a lot of intelligent women who seem beautiful to me because of their intelligence that society would not think of as beautiful.  You also miss judged the joke, I did read the article, and you did not see the Fnords.

Oh and by the way stay out of the Farking kitchen because I am the one who makes the meals! I am I great chef if I do say so my self.

Not that I am a real chef I just cook well.

/Sorry I made you mad
/ If you like chicken curry I will make some for you
/I am told it is fantastic
/all the intelligent women in my life say so


I'm not going to argue the point further because I think we're talking about two different things. But ok.

/and I'm actually the preferred chef around here
//I need to open a restaurant
 
2013-04-21 01:40:43 PM  

Weaver95: albatros183: Weaver95: albatros183: Weaver95: Sometimes I think women do it to us on purpose. My one friend knows that Wednesday night is game night. She knows the approx time I start the show (tabletop rpg). So last week she starts asking me about her decision to get her nipples pierced. That was it...my concentration tanked for the rest of the night. Then she sends me a "good morning" picture of the results. Took me half the day to focus on work after that.

So I think women understand men very well and just f*ck with us on purpose.

should have just had her come over, two brains are better than one and if X is greater than two must be better, what could go wrong?

She kept texting that she was really very sensitive and um...perky. Like I said, there went my concentration for about 2 days.

I think she knew what she was doing dammit.

then give her sex or clip her from your life. choices are simple, play games IRL or don't

Nothing is ever that simple.


Damn. She's your sister, right?
 
2013-04-21 01:40:57 PM  
Women just have trouble understanding their wrong.
 
2013-04-21 01:42:33 PM  

frithperson: I'm not a feminist or quick to claim misogyny, but I've noticed at work that my directness draws criticism ("that was abrupt", "you're very east coast") while a guy who does the same thing gets praised for getting to the heart of the matter. I'm not rude, I just like to keep meetings I lead moving along by steering back to the topic when people digress.


This shiat still goes on? Time to talk to the owners about that harassment/bias lawsuit that you will be filing.
LOLOL
 
2013-04-21 01:43:13 PM  

Revek: Women just have trouble understanding their  that they're wrong.

 
2013-04-21 01:43:14 PM  

Revek: Women just have trouble understanding their wrong.


They're.

You were saying?
 
2013-04-21 01:47:35 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Revek: Women just have trouble understanding their wrong.

They're.

You were saying?


I applaud your writing sense.
 
2013-04-21 01:47:43 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Revek: Women just have trouble understanding their wrong.

They're.

You were saying?


Don't want to speak for, but  I think ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........
 
2013-04-21 01:57:05 PM  

Jeep2011: kiwimoogle84: Revek: Women just have trouble understanding their wrong.

They're.

You were saying?

I applaud your writing sense.


Well thank you- I DID double major in English and creative writing. How I ended up in medical administration I'll never know.
 
2013-04-21 01:58:58 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Well thank you- I DID double major in English and creative writing. How I ended up in medical administration I'll never know


You wanted to eat and live indoors?
 
2013-04-21 02:00:52 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Jeep2011: kiwimoogle84: Revek: Women just have trouble understanding their wrong.

They're.

You were saying?

I applaud your writing sense.

Well thank you- I DID double major in English and creative writing. How I ended up in medical administration I'll never know.


Same way I ended up an IT consultant...we needed a job!
 
2013-04-21 02:07:50 PM  
You both summed it up nicely.
 
2013-04-21 02:14:33 PM  
If you don't try to understand them you won't have a problem. Well, you'll have problems, but frustration at not understanding women will not be one of them.
 
2013-04-21 02:14:36 PM  

bunner: So far, afaict, the gist of what passes for feminism these days is basically, "we still get a free ride, but you have to drive to where WE  want to go and you pay for the gas."  And that's sad, because feminism, as on the original label was long overdue and necessary.


Some take it further:
i560.photobucket.com

To sort of stay on topic; I'm a guy and I do not understand this woman. Screen-punchy video is here, for those who are interested.
 
2013-04-21 02:20:20 PM  
I have always believed that the essential difference between men and women is that, to a woman, emotion is an integral component of logic, and to a man, emotion is the precise opposite of logic.

Communication between men and women is therefore impossible until the man pretends to realize that emotion and logic are interchangeable.
 
2013-04-21 02:24:09 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: I have always believed that the essential difference between men and women is that, to a woman, emotion is an integral component of logic, and to a man, emotion is the precise opposite of logic.

Communication between men and women is therefore impossible until the man pretends to realize that emotion and logic are interchangeable.


That, and I'll openly admit- I have had instances where I thought I was being logical, but how things made sense in my head and how things made sense in his was like comparing a C++ textbook in Cantonese to a bible in Klingon.
 
2013-04-21 02:26:49 PM  

albatros183: WTF are you talking about..


Now I understand, have a sweetie..
 
2013-04-21 02:27:29 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I don't understand women at all. See, I'm a nice guy, I'd never ever hit a woman, and I'd do anything to make her happy. I adore women, but they always - and I mean always - run off with some jerk who's going to hit them or shame them about their appearance or whatever. I'm enough of a prick, that's my problem.


This is the truth unfortunatley. Bhell a couple days ago my roomate brought a girl by and we all started drinking.
she was quite into me. Both of us really. At one point my roomate said he actually likes her hands off.
I started trying to repulse her. Became rude and started talking sh*t in general. Did it work?
nah man she started grabbing up on me and nibbling my ears right in front of him.
so i went to the pub up the street.

couple weeks ago i went out with a girl i was actually into.
i was nice polite tried to engage her in conversation.
she was a snobby c*nt the entire time. At the end of the evening i was forced to ask her how many men she has turned gay.
 
2013-04-21 02:28:05 PM  

Uncle Tractor: this woman


Made it to 1:20. No way in HELL I'd use her as an example for most women's behavior, and I am guessing her frustration didn't start when the video does. Someone had to have been thinking "She bout to snap, let's document it!".
 
2013-04-21 02:31:00 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: I have always believed that the essential difference between men and women is that, to a woman, emotion is an integral component of logic, and to a man, emotion is the precise opposite of logic.

Communication between men and women is therefore impossible until the man pretends to realize that emotion and logic are interchangeable.


Men use logic to sort emotion.

Equals ≠ Same
 
2013-04-21 02:37:01 PM  

WhippingBoy: He's not that into you, but he doesn't want to burn any bridges.


That's what I figure, but instead of agreeing to go for a drink, why not say he was busy, or text and say "sorry, it's not going to work this week". And why act so excited to see me the next time he sees me? On the plus side, it's getting to the point where I'm able to logically convince myself that he's not worth it.
 
2013-04-21 02:37:16 PM  

Uncle Tractor: bunner: So far, afaict, the gist of what passes for feminism these days is basically, "we still get a free ride, but you have to drive to where WE  want to go and you pay for the gas."  And that's sad, because feminism, as on the original label was long overdue and necessary.

Some take it further:
[i560.photobucket.com image 640x390]

To sort of stay on topic; I'm a guy and I do not understand this woman. Screen-punchy video is here, for those who are interested.


Good lord, I want to punch my screen just from viewing that picture, let alone the video.

/she has an ultra mega biatch-face.
 
2013-04-21 02:39:05 PM  

kiwimoogle84: FNORD


I thought I was up on my Internet shorties, but ..."FNORD"?
 
2013-04-21 02:41:56 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Honestly, I like to think I understood men, until I met Mr Kiwi. He's not into sports and distracting him with sex doesn't work that well. He's actually the complicated one in our relationship- stems from childhood and ex-girlfriend issues. So we have trouble communicating sometimes because he won't budge on certain things and I'm, well, I'll say it- pregnant. Which makes me scatterbrained and overly emotional.

However, I DO hate the chicks who say they're fine but really want reassurance or something. That pisses me off. I don't do that- but I am guilty of other typical woman behaviors at the moment so I'll shut up for now.


Congrats on the bun in the oven
 
2013-04-21 02:43:18 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: I have always believed that the essential difference between men and women is that, to a woman, emotion is an integral component of logic, and to a man, emotion is the precise opposite of logic.

Communication between men and women is therefore impossible until the man pretends to realize that emotion and logic are interchangeable.


This is sexist bullshiat. Both men and women are similarly highly emotional and highly logical.

Culturally, men tend to underestimate their level of emotion and the role it plays in their decision-making. We think we're being rational when in reality the way we feel about something has caused us to irrationally eliminate perfectly logical options. We get angry when we're called out on this dishonesty and make lame excuses about "not being the touchy-feely type".

Similarly, women tend to be typecast as "hysterical", which some women sometimes use as a crutch when making an impulsive decision.

Both men and women have a responsibility to be honest with themselves and with each other. Both men and women are prone to fail at this as they learn how.

Don't make the error of stereotyping like this. We're really not that different.
 
2013-04-21 02:43:21 PM  
Growing up at home over the years and seeing how my mom acts in situations, I got my dad to admit that she is happy when she is self inflicted miserable. Like, she complains about all the work she does when she requests that the family come over for Christmas. Every year. She hates all the work she decides to do. So I told her to have someone else cover Christmas instead. You know, giving her out from needing to do all this work she hates.

That pissed her off even more. Like, how dare I try to help.
 
2013-04-21 02:44:09 PM  

Uncle Tractor: bunner: So far, afaict, the gist of what passes for feminism these days is basically, "we still get a free ride, but you have to drive to where WE  want to go and you pay for the gas."  And that's sad, because feminism, as on the original label was long overdue and necessary.

Some take it further:
[i560.photobucket.com image 640x390]

To sort of stay on topic; I'm a guy and I do not understand this woman. Screen-punchy video is here, for those who are interested.


She sounds exactly the way she looks, and is saying exactly what you would expect. I watched 18 seconds.
 
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