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2013-04-21 10:31:28 AM

ComicBookGuy: I remember with my ex, when we were arguing, I'd retreat into cold reason.  This, somehow, would make her angrier.


Christ man. Never use reason or logic when arguing with a woman.
 
2013-04-21 10:31:42 AM

WhippingBoy: s2s2s2: Arachnophobe: Hermione_Granger: The article pretty much makes the point that men simply haven't evolved.

I concur.

So what are you trying to say?

That women can't compete with under evolved men.

Wow, that's pretty sad. It must suck to be a women. How useless they must feel.


They "feel" like goddesses. They just live in a constant state of disappointment that everything else doesn't work like they think it should. They still expect men to make them equals. The nerve!
 
2013-04-21 10:31:46 AM
I liked it when my ex dumped me, then blamed me when things didn't get better for her. Women logic.
 
2013-04-21 10:33:26 AM
But yet most men grew up with mothers and many have sisters, aunts, grandmas. I'm not buying something about this "study".
 
2013-04-21 10:34:02 AM

s2s2s2: WhippingBoy: s2s2s2: Arachnophobe: Hermione_Granger: The article pretty much makes the point that men simply haven't evolved.

I concur.

So what are you trying to say?

That women can't compete with under evolved men.

Wow, that's pretty sad. It must suck to be a women. How useless they must feel.

They "feel" like goddesses. They just live in a constant state of disappointment that everything else doesn't work like they think it should. They still expect men to make them equals. The nerve!


I hate to say it, as it "obviously" means I hate women, but your statement is bang-on. "They live in a constant state of disappointment that everything else doesn't work like they think it should" pretty much sums up every woman I ever met.
 
2013-04-21 10:34:42 AM

WhippingBoy: ComicBookGuy: I remember with my ex, when we were arguing, I'd retreat into cold reason.  This, somehow, would make her angrier.

Christ man. Never use reason or logic when arguing with a woman.


It's not about reason or logic. It's about them.
 
2013-04-21 10:36:52 AM
FTFA "Indeed, that ability to read male faces could still prove valuable in business meetings or political showdowns. Unless, of course, your negotiating partner is a woman. So, like our taste for fatty foods, this may be another example of an evolutionarily advantageous adaptation that no longer serves us well. In the words of the 16th century proverb, the eyes are the window to the soul. But for men gazing into the eyes of women, that pane of glass is fogged over."

So some affirmative action is called for, or a return to dueling which ever.
 
2013-04-21 10:37:16 AM

KawaiiNot: But yet most men grew up with mothers and many have sisters, aunts, grandmas. I'm not buying something about this "study".


When your mom is angry at you, she screams. When your sister is being picked on too much, she cries. Grandma will come at you with a wooden switch when she's dissatisfied with your behavior. There isn't a lot you need to read in your family member's eyes in those sorts of situations. When you break your mom's favorite part off the miniature statue of David in the living room, she'll let you know exactly how she's feeling about it.

There's no "It's fine," with an implied soliloquy about how rough she's got it.
 
2013-04-21 10:37:42 AM

chaosangel: As a woman, I must admit that they are really difficult to read & I truly feel for guys.  Women often aren't sure what they want, but they expect men to "know" what they want anyway, or "know" what they are thinking/need, etc.  They will lie that everything is "fine", when they are mad.  Then they just stew about it until they blow up.

However, it's not just with men.  They do that with each other as well.  Pretend things are ok, then biatch about each other behind their backs until they get an opportunity to stab you in the back.  Or, they will just be really catty to you, but avoid any chance to discuss any issues & deal with the problem.  Which is why all of my best friends are men, or women who are not girlie girls.

Guys are simple.  They want sex, beer & food.  Maybe a back rub too.  When they are mad, they punch each other out, sometimes literally, go have a beer & everything is fine.  So, even though I'm bi, I really prefer men.


My girlfriend put on a pouty little girl wanting something face when requesting what we eat on our anniversary.

"Hey fluffy," *fidget fidget, grind toe into ground while watching it* "I was wondering if you know... since its our anniversary..."

"What do you want love?"

"Well I was wondering if we could..." *trails off and is silent for several seconds.*

"Since it's our anniversary what, love?"

"Well since it's our anniversary. could we you know... um... maybe...." *trails off again*

"I need a doing word here love. What do you want to do?"

"....Go to that Chinese place I like for dinner"

*facepalm* "Love, I will buy you dinner wherever you want. All you need to do is ask. Why did you spend 5 minutes dancing around a simple question you know I'd say yes to?"

"Naaaaa!"


/doesn't make sense.
 
2013-04-21 10:37:48 AM
Both sides are bad.
 
2013-04-21 10:39:09 AM
"Hey, hon, do you still work with Karen?"

"Karen? She took a two-week vacation, funny thing happened when she met up with her old boyfriend. Anyway.....yada, yada, yada........"

Me, ten minutes later: "So do you still work with Karen?"
 
2013-04-21 10:39:52 AM

ComicBookGuy: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: chaosangel: Or, they will just be really catty to you, but avoid any chance to discuss any issues & deal with the problem.

I once listened to like a forty minute diatribe from one woman, complaining endlessly about some other woman's actions, and made the mistake of asking "So why don't you just call her up and explain this to her like a rational adult?" I've only made that mistake once.

I remember with my ex, when we were arguing, I'd retreat into cold reason.  This, somehow, would make her angrier.


I like the word "retreat" in this context. Like logic and reason are refuges men run to when they are under assault.
 
2013-04-21 10:42:05 AM

KawaiiNot: But yetklfnvh ermmn jjusodkk nnfiooerb bhsda rgerger  "study".


*scratches head*
 
2013-04-21 10:42:58 AM
www.thezooom.com
 
2013-04-21 10:43:07 AM

Wasilla Hillbilly: Both sides are bad.


So vote Republican!
 
2013-04-21 10:43:30 AM

chaosangel: Women often aren't sure what they want, but they expect men to "know" what they want anyway, or "know" what they are thinking/need, etc.


I see a variation of this at my workplace, which is overwhelmingly female.  Some of the female supervisors get angry with their subordinates when they are doing some task that isn't what the supervisor wanted, even though the supervisor didn't actually give them any instructions in the first place.  I haven't seen that sort of behavior from any of the male supervisors.
 
2013-04-21 10:43:43 AM

dopekitty74: Abox: It's evolution.  If women were coherent we'd spend too much time talking to them and less time banging them.

So this is why my husband would rather talk to me than fark me? Fascinating....

/never thought I'd be considered too coherent..


There could be other factors.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-21 10:44:24 AM

bunner: [www.thezooom.com image 640x458]


Duck, Duck Goose?
 
2013-04-21 10:44:58 AM

Arachnophobe: Hermione_Granger: The article pretty much makes the point that men simply haven't evolved.

I concur.

So what are you trying to say?


Tee hee?
 
2013-04-21 10:45:03 AM

State_College_Arsonist: chaosangel: Women often aren't sure what they want, but they expect men to "know" what they want anyway, or "know" what they are thinking/need, etc.

I see a variation of this at my workplace, which is overwhelmingly female.  Some of the female supervisors get angry with their subordinates when they are doing some task that isn't what the supervisor wanted, even though the supervisor didn't actually give them any instructions in the first place.  I haven't seen that sort of behavior from any of the male supervisors.


And these people then go on to complain about how unfair it is that they're paid less because they do "the same job as a man".
 
2013-04-21 10:45:48 AM

gaslight: Hermione_Granger: The article pretty much makes the point that men simply haven't evolved.

I concur.

Who's got the money and power again?


Men attempt to obtain power and resources to attract women. Women use men to obtain power and resources. So, which one is more concerned about power?
 
2013-04-21 10:45:51 AM
Venus.  Mars.  Orbits never intersect.
 
2013-04-21 10:46:50 AM

Omnivorous: Venus.  Mars.  Orbits never intersect.


Of course they do what's in between ?
 
2013-04-21 10:48:05 AM
Well, shiat, guys. I guess we now have 100 problems.
 
2013-04-21 10:48:47 AM

ComicBookGuy: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: chaosangel: Or, they will just be really catty to you, but avoid any chance to discuss any issues & deal with the problem.

I once listened to like a forty minute diatribe from one woman, complaining endlessly about some other woman's actions, and made the mistake of asking "So why don't you just call her up and explain this to her like a rational adult?" I've only made that mistake once.

I remember with my ex, when we were arguing, I'd retreat into cold reason.  This, somehow, would make her angrier.


Having been married 3 times now, I can attest that women do not care for logic. Try that shiat in an argument, and they get super-pissed. Real quick-like.
 
2013-04-21 10:49:56 AM
At least men TRY to understand them...women seem to be stuck in the 2 year old mentality of "MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME" these days...try getting a word in edgewise with that drum beat going through her head...

(I don't remember places I used to live outside of California being so self-centered, selfish and materialistic...maybe it's like this everywhere now.)
 
2013-04-21 10:52:09 AM
This thread is hilariously demonstrating why there are so many single men on Fark.
 
2013-04-21 10:53:50 AM

ramblinwreck: So, which one is more concerned about power?


Careful, you're about to have women taking the blame for how farked up the world is.
 
2013-04-21 10:54:01 AM

kwame: This thread is hilariously demonstrating why there are so many single men on Fark.


Don't forget all the wide swath assumptions, projections and inference!
 
2013-04-21 10:54:03 AM

kwame: This thread is hilariously demonstrating why there are so many single men on Fark.


You mean all the guys talking about their experiences with their girlfriends/wives? I'm pretty sure that that means that they're *not* single.
 
2013-04-21 10:54:07 AM

kwame: This thread is hilariously demonstrating why there are so many single men on Fark.


I suspect there are fewer than you would like to believe.
 
2013-04-21 10:55:06 AM

s2s2s2: ramblinwreck: So, which one is more concerned about power?

Careful, you're about to have women taking the blame for how farked up the world is.


Yeah right. Like that will ever happen.
 
2013-04-21 10:56:13 AM

Hermione_Granger: men simply haven't evolved.


Evolution: a concept devised and popularized by men so your meaning is unclear....
 
2013-04-21 10:58:07 AM

bunner: kwame: This thread is hilariously demonstrating why there are so many single men on Fark.

Don't forget all the wide swath assumptions, projections and inference!


Aw, that's cute, but it doesn't change anything.
 
2013-04-21 10:58:24 AM
Receptionist:

"How do you write women so well?"

Nicholson:

"I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability."
 
2013-04-21 10:58:27 AM

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: Having been married 3 times now, I can attest that women do not care for logic. Try that shiat in an argument, and they get super-pissed. Real quick-like.


Because it isn't about reason or logic, to them. To them, it is about...them. And you are an evil patriarchist if you think there is any reason that is wrong.
 
2013-04-21 10:58:55 AM
I love women.  Seriously, I adore the company of women.

You know how, like, women are totally allowed to pronounce what they think a "real man" is?

About that.

We've sort of gotten our own seat at that game, now, too.  Welcome to the aftermath of the entitlement pissing contest.
 
2013-04-21 11:00:10 AM

WhippingBoy: Yeah right. Like that will ever happen.


I just get tired of the "Oh yeah, we we use you to get power n shiat!" line. If it is true, then it means women only have themselves to blame for why they can't ever seem to get enough of it.
 
2013-04-21 11:01:43 AM

kwame: Aw, that's cute, but it doesn't change anything.


Coincidence  abounds.  BTW, you chose a failed politician and indicted fraud for a user name.  Did you know?  :  ) Next tug on the  line gets your rod and reel yanked out of the boat.  Make it count.
 
2013-04-21 11:01:57 AM

kwame: Aw, that's cute, but it doesn't change anything.


The fact that more of us are happily married than you might think, does.
 
2013-04-21 11:02:10 AM

neenerist: Hermione_Granger: men simply haven't evolved.

Evolution: a concept devised and popularized by men so your meaning is unclear....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_McClintock

would like a word.
 
2013-04-21 11:03:04 AM

s2s2s2: WhippingBoy: Yeah right. Like that will ever happen.

I just get tired of the "Oh yeah, we we use you to get power n shiat!" line. If it is true, then it means women only have themselves to blame for why they can't ever seem to get enough of it.


Oh I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying you'd have a better chance of reuniting the Koreas with marshmallow candy than you do getting a woman to accept responsibility for anything. The whole concept of "Patriarchy" was invented to absolve women from any responsibility whatsoever (e.g. if a woman murders her children or does something bad, just blame "patriarchy" instead of blaming the poor innocent woman).
 
2013-04-21 11:04:11 AM

s2s2s2: kwame: Aw, that's cute, but it doesn't change anything.

The fact that more of us are happily married than you might think, does.


My girlfriend is confusing, hard to understand, and slow to get to the point.

/love her anyways.
 
2013-04-21 11:04:26 AM
The only reason I try in vain to try and understand women is because I am just not attracted to other men in a sexual way.
 
2013-04-21 11:05:02 AM

albatros183: neenerist: Hermione_Granger: men simply haven't evolved.

Evolution: a concept devised and popularized by men so your meaning is unclear....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_McClintock

would like a word.


Or she will burst into tears?
 
2013-04-21 11:05:21 AM
If you aren't direct and obvious, it's harder to be held accountable for your words or actions. Maybe just the way some women want it.
 
2013-04-21 11:05:51 AM
Men objectify women.

Women try and internalize men.

Kids and dogs know better.

Anybody want a sammich?
 
2013-04-21 11:06:28 AM

s2s2s2: kwame: Aw, that's cute, but it doesn't change anything.

The fact that more of us are happily married than you might think, does.


So you're going to point out I'm making an assumption by making an assumption. Well done!
 
2013-04-21 11:06:43 AM

albatros183: would like a word.


Apparently not about the creation and popularization of the concept of evolution. Or were you just providing an illustration regarding what it is to be unclear about what someone is implying?
 
2013-04-21 11:07:10 AM
Why would we want to understand women?

Women understand women, and they hate each other.
 
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