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2013-04-21 10:26:15 AM  

Dr. Goldshnoz: eventhelosers: I was in Vegas and a "hooker" propositioned me, I told her I wasn't paying but I have a thing for police women and I'd take her out after her shift.  She just smiled, it was way to obvious.

......isn't it legal in vegas?


Despite popular misconception, no.  Prostitution prohibited by state law in the two biggest counties, county choice otherwise.  Most of the other counties choose to make it legal.  The outcall outfits are sufficiently well organized that busting them is extremely difficult and the cops normally don't try even when they get so blatant as to drive ad trucks up and down the strip.  (GIS for "las vegas hot babes truck", you'll see what I mean.)

Last I knew there was a strip club in town where you could arrange for a legal prostitute.  They provided transportation to the actual brothel just across the county line.  (Obviously, this drives the price up as that's an hour away.)

Greek: Hmm... this is a tough one. On one hand, one DOES generally strip down for legitimate massage. Even massage therapy- if they're working on your glutes or thigh muscles, etc, you'll need to take it all off. On the other hand, the police do kind of seem to be opening themselves up for all kinds of trouble, especially since there's no visual or audio evidence- the suspect could just say he accepted the offer of sexual services whether he did or not, and it would be a game of he said/ she said.


Yeah.  He could leave a recorder in his clothes (they'll be nearby) but video is another matter.  There are so many stories of cops making up testimony that video should be required.  (After all, they're obviously guilty in this case.  Why do you need real evidence???)

gerbilpox: Yeah, it's only legal in the more remote counties, not in Vegas or Reno. I gotta wonder if they bother to enforce it, though. On the Strip, every 1/2 block you've got people shoving escort service flyers in your face. It's not like they're hiding it.


The escort services operate freely but the cops *DO* bust streetwalkers.  The latter is a good thing, they catch an awful lot of HIV+ ones.
 
2013-04-21 10:37:04 AM  
Cops, stop! Look at yourselves, think about what you are doing.
For what? To stamp out handjobs?

Lou, you are better than this.
 
kab
2013-04-21 10:38:28 AM  

Alphax: SpinStopper: Laws based upon "morality" are a bunch of crap.  In my humble opinion.  Enough said ;)

Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled.


Legalizing it would go a long way towards said dismantling.
 
2013-04-21 10:38:58 AM  

Loren: The escort services operate freely but the cops *DO* bust streetwalkers. The latter is a good thing, they catch an awful lot of HIV+ ones.


That alone is the biggest reason to legalize it entirely. When sex is considered a base need and some can't get it without paying, it's ridiculous that they have to spin a roulette wheel just to put their dick in something. Legalize, tax, regulate. And for God's sake regularly test the women. Hell require customers to submit to an STD test.

/paper bags and masturbation only go so far.
 
kab
2013-04-21 10:39:17 AM  

Lord Summerisle: I thought Americans were big on Freedom, so how come selling sex is illegal? As long as nobody's being forced to do it then it's their personal choice. Is it... something to do with Jesus?


We're big on freedom as a theory, not a practice.
 
2013-04-21 10:39:22 AM  

markfara: Coming on a Bicycle: BarkingUnicorn: SpinStopper: Laws based upon "morality" are a bunch of crap.  In my humble opinion.  Enough said ;)

All laws are based upon morality.

Nope. The golden rule isn't morality.

Consenting adults having consensual sex isn't immoral, even if money's involved. And participating in a "crime" in order to make an arrest is BS.


It is only "immoral" to your Nannys.
Therefore, NOT FOR YOU.

See the real problem, eh?
 
2013-04-21 10:39:25 AM  

Pardon Me Sultan: For 30 minutes Shu Yuan Sun worked the muscles of the officer's back, his shoulders and legs, and then told him, "Turn over." And that, said Hallandale Beach Police Sgt. Todd Crevier, is when the crime went down.

Surely I'm not the only one to have spotted this little gem?


+1 I was wondering if anyone else noticed that one too.
 
2013-04-21 10:49:46 AM  
Ive never had the desire to hire a hooker, just like ive never wanted to roll naked on the floor of a public urinal.
 
2013-04-21 10:49:54 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Pardon Me Sultan: For 30 minutes Shu Yuan Sun worked the muscles of the officer's back, his shoulders and legs, and then told him, "Turn over." And that, said Hallandale Beach Police Sgt. Todd Crevier, is when the crime went down.

Surely I'm not the only one to have spotted this little gem?

+1 I was wondering if anyone else noticed that one too.


So, when dicks go up, so does crime?
 
2013-04-21 10:52:45 AM  

gweilo8888: Alphax: Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled exist BECAUSE of these morality laws.

Sweeping things under the table with laws that make them illegal opens them up to exploitation by unsavory types. If it was legalized, it could be more easily regulated.


This.
 
2013-04-21 11:01:40 AM  

Virtuoso80: gweilo8888: Alphax: Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled exist BECAUSE of these morality laws.

Sweeping things under the table with laws that make them illegal opens them up to exploitation by unsavory types. If it was legalized, it could be more easily regulated.

This.


No, slavery is miles down the road from your petty morality laws.
And it is alive and well after all these years.
It is simply a human condition that will not go away because of some, what you say, "LAW"?
LOL
 
2013-04-21 11:38:12 AM  

snocone: Virtuoso80: gweilo8888: Alphax: Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled exist BECAUSE of these morality laws.

Sweeping things under the table with laws that make them illegal opens them up to exploitation by unsavory types. If it was legalized, it could be more easily regulated.

This.

No, slavery is miles down the road from your petty morality laws.
And it is alive and well after all these years.
It is simply a human condition that will not go away because of some, what you say, "LAW"?
LOL


And yes somehow organized crime got out of the alcohol business after prohibition was lifted in 1933...
 
2013-04-21 12:24:31 PM  

Gunny Walker: Greek: Hmm... this is a tough one. On one hand, one DOES generally strip down for legitimate massage. Even massage therapy- if they're working on your glutes or thigh muscles, etc, you'll need to take it all off. On the other hand, the police do kind of seem to be opening themselves up for all kinds of trouble, especially since there's no visual or audio evidence- the suspect could just say he accepted the offer of sexual services whether he did or not, and it would be a game of he said/ she said.

He could be wearing a microphone disguised as a bluetooth ear piece. People seem pretty attached to those things, so I could imagine one naked and getting a massage with one on. Sometimes, I wonder if they were waterproof would people ever take them off.


He can use the micro vid cam recorder disguised as a pen (the same type that the pervy gynocologist used to record his patients), or even use http://www.glogerm.com/Company-History.html on his junk so when she touches it, it transfers to her hands, etc.
 
2013-04-21 12:40:02 PM  
Thats there story and they are sticking to it.
 
2013-04-21 01:15:22 PM  

HempHead: And yes somehow organized crime got out of the alcohol business after prohibition was lifted in 1933...


img.poptower.com

And into reality TV?
 
2013-04-21 01:20:32 PM  

PsyLord: or even use http://www.glogerm.com/Company-History.html on his junk so when she touches it, it transfers to her hands, etc.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-21 01:54:06 PM  

gweilo8888: Alphax: Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled exist BECAUSE of these morality laws.

Sweeping things under the table with laws that make them illegal opens them up to exploitation by unsavory types. If it was legalized, it could be more easily regulated.


So legalize slavery?
 
2013-04-21 02:00:57 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: HempHead: And yes somehow organized crime got out of the alcohol business after prohibition was lifted in 1933...

[img.poptower.com image 600x337]

And into reality TV?


Ah yes.  Those guys are clearly on the same scale as Al Capone.  Excellent point.
 
2013-04-21 02:22:43 PM  

ajgeek: Loren: The escort services operate freely but the cops *DO* bust streetwalkers. The latter is a good thing, they catch an awful lot of HIV+ ones.

That alone is the biggest reason to legalize it entirely. When sex is considered a base need and some can't get it without paying, it's ridiculous that they have to spin a roulette wheel just to put their dick in something. Legalize, tax, regulate. And for God's sake regularly test the women. Hell require customers to submit to an STD test.

/paper bags and masturbation only go so far.


Agreed.  I'm for legal and regulated prostitution.  Crack whores are quite another matter, though.
 
2013-04-21 02:49:48 PM  
if you go to a nude beach where do you keep your keys, your asscrack??
 
2013-04-21 03:24:47 PM  

kab: Alphax: SpinStopper: Laws based upon "morality" are a bunch of crap.  In my humble opinion.  Enough said ;)

Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled.

Legalizing it would go a long way towards said dismantling.


Actually, no. Sex Slavery is a major problem in Amsterdam, where prostitution is legal.
 
2013-04-21 03:32:10 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: if you go to a nude beach where do you keep your keys, your asscrack??


ecx.images-amazon.com

ecx.images-amazon.com

/Might be a cool service for OnStar, if you can borrow a phone to call when you are done
 
2013-04-21 04:02:53 PM  

simplicimus: kab: Alphax: SpinStopper: Laws based upon "morality" are a bunch of crap.  In my humble opinion.  Enough said ;)

Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled.

Legalizing it would go a long way towards said dismantling.

Actually, no. Sex Slavery is a major problem in Amsterdam, where prostitution is legal.


Yeah, wanted to say this.

When the lady gets aids, do you think she'll just "quit her job"?
She'll just work the corner with lower prices.
Fake licenses will be next.
What about doctors on the take to 'clear' the ladies "I swear, when she did her last checkup she was clean!"

Amsterdam faces issues with illegal migrants, underage girls and (if memory serves me right) the diseased.

Some farker posted links some time back.

/don't take my word for it, google it if you want.
 
2013-04-21 05:51:50 PM  

Alphax: SpinStopper: Laws based upon "morality" are a bunch of crap.  In my humble opinion.  Enough said ;)

Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled.


So much THIS.

However, I did read in an article about Switzerland (I think, one of those Euro countries anyway) that legalizing prostitution actually made things worse and more violent for the women - reason being that johns felt more empowered to ask for weird shiat and get upset when it didn't happen, rather than get in and get out without being caught.
 
2013-04-21 06:22:38 PM  
Cops: They break the law so you don't have to.
 
2013-04-21 07:56:50 PM  

FarkerSnow: Alphax: SpinStopper: Laws based upon "morality" are a bunch of crap.  In my humble opinion.  Enough said ;)

Sounds like they're looking for sex slave organizations.  THOSE need to be dismantled.

So much THIS.

However, I did read in an article about Switzerland (I think, one of those Euro countries anyway) that legalizing prostitution actually made things worse and more violent for the women - reason being that johns felt more empowered to ask for weird shiat and get upset when it didn't happen, rather than get in and get out without being caught.


 I think that a lot of this happened because of the ghettoization of legal sex work - because it's only available in a very limited area, it became the 'sex capital', and much like the drug culture, so much of it moved there that it overwhelmed local resources, leading to increased illegal dealings.  If it was legal more or less everywhere(within reasonable zoning rules), you wouldn't get the concentration there.

I've heard the 'best situation' is where selling sex is legal, but buying it is still illegal.  Keeps the Johns properly afraid, but the prostitute has no reason other than potential loss of business to not report a nasty client.  She doesn't even have to prove he crossed a line.  He purchased her services - that's proof enough to land him in hot water.
 
2013-04-21 10:29:11 PM  

FarkerSnow: However, I did read in an article about Switzerland (I think, one of those Euro countries anyway) that legalizing prostitution actually made things worse and more violent for the women - reason being that johns felt more empowered to ask for weird shiat and get upset when it didn't happen, rather than get in and get out without being caught.


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I'd expect the exact opposite would be true. With no stigma attached to the "profession", they'd be more likely to report issues.
 
2013-04-22 01:03:43 PM  
The cops keep repeating 'human trafficking'.  Im sure it exists and needs to be stopped but really I dont see it matters much just what people are being kept as slaves for.  Just establish if these girls are here legally and are they being made to work against their will.  The kidnapping charges against the bosses will be fine.
 
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