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2013-04-20 03:58:54 PM  
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desertgeek: I need to find that play that Jon Miller called "the worst baserunning in the history of the game." I need to decide if Segura was actually worse.


Rubin Rivera was worse.
2013-04-20 05:55:33 PM  
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I can't find the Mets' minor league affiliate Benny Hill triple play from a couple of years back anywhere, can someone link?
2013-04-20 04:26:19 PM  
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Dear Jerk: So it's possible, if you're close to setting a base stealing record and you find yourself on third, to steal second. And I think if the defense actually attempts to throw you out, the scorer doesn't have the discretion to deny you the stolen base.


Well the two reasons you can't steal backwards are 1) as a distraction and 2) if it would make a travesty of the game.  I would think that padding your stats to chase a record would fall into the latter category.

desertgeek: I need to find that play that Jon Miller called "the worst baserunning in the history of the game." I need to decide if Segura was actually worse.


Rivera misjudged a fly ball then lost the ball entirely and then lost where he was, and wandering aimlessly for like 30 seconds in a 20 foot area - then made it WORSE by trying to advance on a missed throw that stayed in the infield.

Segura made a stupid mistake on a relatively uncommon rule regarding possession of the base (one even the position players likely weren't sure of - they tagged both guys to make sure, just as you're taught in Little League; tag both, let the ump remember the rule.  Braun and Segura should have both stood on the base until making sure they saw the ump indicated which one was safe and which was out and time was called - looks like Braun did that.  The ump did a good job indicating that only Braun was out, Segura just didn't see it since he took off for the dugout).  Segura then kind of atoned for the mistake (thanks to a heads up first base coach) by getting in to first, preserving at least one runner.  

Boneheaded play - yes, but nowhere near the worst base-running in the history of the game
2013-04-20 04:18:00 PM  
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Donnchadha: Nefarious: Has first base ever been stolen before?

If you mean "has a runner ever gone backwards from second to first intentionally" then yes, it has.



Dear Jerk: So it's possible, if you're close to setting a base stealing record and you find yourself on third, to steal second. And I think if the defense actually attempts to throw you out, the scorer doesn't have the discretion to deny you the stolen base.


There's a rule against it now. There used to not be though.  A guy named Germany Schaeffer was on second once and a teammate on third. He stole first with the intent of confusing the defense, thereby giving the other runner time to score.  And it half worked. The defense what a WTF moment, but so did the runner.  On the next pitch he stole his way back to second and this time the runner did score.  Stealing backwards wasn't prohibited at the time, probably because they didn't think anybody would do it.
2013-04-20 03:55:01 PM  
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I need to find that play that Jon Miller called "the worst baserunning in the history of the game." I need to decide if Segura was actually worse.
 
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