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(Sun News Network)   NBC: We're pulling an episode of Hannibal because of what happened in Boston   (sunnewsnetwork.ca) divider line 70
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2013-04-20 05:32:49 PM
Six_By_Nine:
Go watch the Disney Channel if you're looking for stuff that's not going to offend you.  I'm sure they have shiat on at 6 am that is bland and inoffensive unless you're particularly chafed by bright colors and smiling faces.

No, Disney Channel and Disney Jr are so irritating they drive one into a rage. I speak from experience. The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse animated show for tots is so horrible that I one day expect a killing spree to be blamed on the Hot Diggity Dog song.
 
2013-04-20 05:35:17 PM

The_Sponge: 1derful: The very network that ran pictures of real life carnage on a loop every hour of the week is electing not to air a fictional television show out of sensitivity. farking idiots.


....and we're done here.  I'll turn out the lights.


They must have run that loop with the old guy getting farked by the blast a thousand times.

/seriously glad that he ended up OK but still.
 
2013-04-20 05:57:01 PM
How about having the next episode of Two Broke Girls feature Max and Caroline walking around topless. They could get into a pudding fight or two

I know it would help me forget about the recent tragedies.
 
2013-04-20 06:25:21 PM

srhp29: People who are over sensitive to fiction need to not own TVs.


America has been turned into a shivering rape victim handcuffed to a radiator in the basement. No bright lights please.
 
2013-04-20 07:05:49 PM

yadumey: The_Sponge: Good show, BTW....I was skeptical at first.

You and me both. Gave it a watch cause I'm just a fan of alternate takes of established canon. I also liked Mockingbird Lane.


Thirded. Apparently Bryan Fuller has put a number of Easter eggs in Hannibal that are references to his other shows. Of course I've never watched any of his other stuff so I only know this from what I've read.

Also I have a logistical question (POSSIBLE MINOR SPOILERS)

Is Hannibal supposed to be the Shrike copycat? Since Hannibal consults with Jack and Will so often I'm assuming his office must be near the FBI headquarters (D.C.? Virginia? Somewhere on the East Coast at least). Are we to believe that he flew all the way to Minnesota, found a girl that fit the profile, murdered her and then flew back (with a pair of human lungs, no less) without anyone noticing?
 
2013-04-20 07:19:26 PM

fusillade762: Also I have a logistical question (POSSIBLE MINOR SPOILERS)



Yeah....I was wondering about that as well.

Also:

Even though we know Hannibal is cooking up human organs, it still looks delicious.....I get hungry every time I watch an episode
 
2013-04-20 07:39:40 PM

The_Sponge: fusillade762: Also I have a logistical question (POSSIBLE MINOR SPOILERS)


Yeah....I was wondering about that as well.

Also:

Even though we know Hannibal is cooking up human organs, it still looks delicious.....I get hungry every time I watch an episode


This.  Apparently, the show has a professional chef to come up with Hanibal's recipes
 
2013-04-20 07:39:44 PM

tlchwi02: rugman11: I think so too. Will is an empath who is capable of recreating the crimes by putting himself in the place of the killer. These visions leave him pretty profoundly messed up. Then add to that the fact that he's required to see a shrink (Lecter) who pretty much messes with his head. I like it. It's much more about Graham than Lecter, but I think that's a good thing when it comes to building out an extended series like this.

I kind of like that we get to see lecter in his zone. none of the restrictions that the movies (not counting that terrible prequel one) placed on him. and the bond villain guy is a fantastic choice, he plays subtle evil like a harp


That's what I like about Mads Mikkelsen's take on the character, too.  He's not a cartoony antihero.  I'd love to see the pulled episode, just to see how Molly Shannon does.
 
2013-04-20 07:39:53 PM
At first I was outraged but now I'm "meh".  Just saw "Potage" (the episode about Abigail) and it was "The Phantom Menace" levels of stupid.  All the drama and tension was created around the wrong people allowed access to people/places that would otherwise be under 24/7 surveillance -- and I don't mean Dr. Lecter.  Meanwhile Laurence Fishburne just mopes about watching everything fall apart like Yoda in the prequels.  How the fark does a reporter get unfettered access to a key FBI witness to murder while she's still hospitalized??  How does the ginger trespass (TWICE!!) during a very sensitive visit to Abigail's house while the FBI is there?  And mind you, most of the damage is done by a tabloid reporter that the FBI couldn't give more credibility to if they gave her a goddamn press pass.  Why not just dismiss her ramblings as. . . tabloid?  Or distribute a picture of her to all local and federal law enforcement warning them to keep her away and not talk to her?  Her actions did get one cop killed, after all.  Or charge her with trespassing and obstruction of justice.  You know. . . ANYTHING but letting her fark things up like a rabid dog in a kennel.  No one is searched, no property is secured, no person is protected, and Fishburne's intelligence and PR operations are amateurish disasters.  Now, while the execution of it is very weak, I get that the trust Dr. Lecter enjoys allows him to get away with a lot. . . but everything else has turned into an epic daytime soap opera mess with corpses, badges and music to make it seem serious.

The first few episodes were intriguing, but the series is crashing hard.  Now I feel like I'm not gonna miss anything.
 
2013-04-20 07:40:09 PM
Nbc has an option here? Seems to me the choice is clear... 1) They could satisfy a few oblivious farkers or 2) help preserve what's left of the idea of propriety in this country.
 
2013-04-20 07:57:13 PM

Mugato: I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.


The first couple episodes were intriguing, at least.  Ironically the show's at its best when it's episodic; there's still a ton of gawdawful drama between the characters but having a job to do prevents it from consuming the scenes.  When Will's investigating a crime, Lecter's forced to be careful and subtle, and the interactions can really result in some good acting.  When Lecter's given too much room to work with (and in the last episode he was waaaaaaay too autonomous, even for an FBI confidant), he's just another sicko and it gives the series the feel of a B movie.  And I still have no idea why Dr. Bloom is in the show at all.  In every single scene she's in, she may as well not exist.  She's said absolutely nothing that couldn't have been said by someone else.

And oh gawd the reporter. . . the idea of a crime reporter being a sociopathic kunt and incessant pest doesn't bother me at all.  What bothers me is the staggering amount of damage she's allowed to inflict with Fishburne only looking mildly irritated and handling in all the worst ways possible. . . namely, giving her a break-down-the-door show she knew wouldn't work, then absolutely nothing.
 
2013-04-20 10:11:25 PM

dragonchild: At first I was outraged but now I'm "meh".  Just saw "Potage" (the episode about Abigail) and it was "The Phantom Menace" levels of stupid.  All the drama and tension was created around the wrong people allowed access to people/places that would otherwise be under 24/7 surveillance -- and I don't mean Dr. Lecter.  Meanwhile Laurence Fishburne just mopes about watching everything fall apart like Yoda in the prequels.  How the fark does a reporter get unfettered access to a key FBI witness to murder while she's still hospitalized??  How does the ginger trespass (TWICE!!) during a very sensitive visit to Abigail's house while the FBI is there?  And mind you, most of the damage is done by a tabloid reporter that the FBI couldn't give more credibility to if they gave her a goddamn press pass.  Why not just dismiss her ramblings as. . . tabloid?  Or distribute a picture of her to all local and federal law enforcement warning them to keep her away and not talk to her?  Her actions did get one cop killed, after all.  Or charge her with trespassing and obstruction of justice.  You know. . . ANYTHING but letting her fark things up like a rabid dog in a kennel.  No one is searched, no property is secured, no person is protected, and Fishburne's intelligence and PR operations are amateurish disasters.  Now, while the execution of it is very weak, I get that the trust Dr. Lecter enjoys allows him to get away with a lot. . . but everything else has turned into an epic daytime soap opera mess with corpses, badges and music to make it seem serious.

The first few episodes were intriguing, but the series is crashing hard.  Now I feel like I'm not gonna miss anything.


Also: how did Lecter get a gutted body out of a house surrounded by cops? And isn't someone going to notice fresh blood stains on the floor?

And the reporter is annoying, but it gave us the best line of the series so far: "You really shouldn't mess with a guy who thinks about killing people for a living."

But I'll probably keep watching just to see Gillian Anderson, Eddie Izzard and Gina Torres.
 
2013-04-20 10:48:05 PM

The_Sponge: Have you seen the Krampus episode of "The League"?


No! I never really got into that show, but now I have to look that up, too.  I'm kind of amazed at how popular Krampus has gotten, people used to look at me like I was a bag of nuts going on about how cool I find him. :)
 
2013-04-21 12:05:45 AM
I liked this show better when it was called Dexter.
 
2013-04-21 12:52:49 AM
Tastes like Chicken.


Pussies.
 
2013-04-21 02:18:58 AM

Old enough to know better: Or else they'll just slap a fat "Including the never before seen episode..." sticker on the front of the inevitable season Blu-Ray.


Probably this.

Is there some reason we need a "Hannibal" TV show anyway, since it won't be about Hannibal Lecter but about a semi-decent non-psychopathic character with a fetish for eating humans who likes to help the FBI solve crimes in his own twisted way? Hannibal Lecter was a genuinely evil person, not a good guy with issues after all, and he should be allowed to stay that way.
 
2013-04-21 08:45:00 AM

fusillade762: And the reporter is annoying, but it gave us the best line of the series so far: "You really shouldn't mess with a guy who thinks about killing people for a living."


. . . And then they promptly take a stinky dump on that line by publishing it on the website.  You got it all wrong; she's not annoying at all.  The actress is actually playing a sociopathic reporter quite well; she's entertaining to watch in a twisted sense, even more so than Hannibal who's mostly passive and creepy like a stalker.  The problem is that when bad guys fail upwards by good being dumb, and I mean REAL dumb (for real), I lose interest.  The show isn't the cat-and-mouse game I hoped it'd be; it generates drama through stupidity and I find that painfully boring.

The FBI takes it personally that a tabloid is writing things about them.  Um, isn't that what tabloids do?  If Will didn't say anything she'd just make shiat up.  And isn't she doing so because you're not keeping her away from crime scenes?  (There's a quip where she says the FBI needs to patrol their perimeters better, but I don't buy it.  This isn't someone who dubbed a movie on a VHS tape here; it's a serial killer hot case and a PR disaster.)  It's obvious this woman is unfazed by anything; a guy got shot close enough to spatter her with blood and she's no worse for wear.  The FBI is doing everything wrong to make her as powerful as possible, which is exactly how not to make a story interesting to me.  If I want to see a show about idiots farking things up beyond belief, The Three Stooges did a much better job.
 
2013-04-21 09:17:02 AM

rugman11: tlchwi02: Mugato: Rickj: I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me.  A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time

I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.

oddly that description makes it sound awesome...

I think so too.  Will is an empath who is capable of recreating the crimes by putting himself in the place of the killer.  These visions leave him pretty profoundly messed up.  Then add to that the fact that he's required to see a shrink (Lecter) who pretty much messes with his head.  I like it.  It's much more about Graham than Lecter, but I think that's a good thing when it comes to building out an extended series like this.


Yes, exactly.  The pain/empathy/disgust is written all over Graham's face, so to the casual observer, he looks nuts as we generally define it.  When in reality, Lecter, the shrink that acts as a consulting expert, is profundly dangerous and bat-shiat crazy, but is trained to hide it and looks unflappably normal.

And this really is "Manhunter: The Series" - they called it "Hannibal" to bring in viewers, but it CAN'T be centered only around Lecter or it would get old quick.
 
2013-04-21 10:02:49 AM

Gyrfalcon: Old enough to know better: Or else they'll just slap a fat "Including the never before seen episode..." sticker on the front of the inevitable season Blu-Ray.

Probably this.

Is there some reason we need a "Hannibal" TV show anyway, since it won't be about Hannibal Lecter but about a semi-decent non-psychopathic character with a fetish for eating humans who likes to help the FBI solve crimes in his own twisted way? Hannibal Lecter was a genuinely evil person, not a good guy with issues after all, and he should be allowed to stay that way.


Have you been watching the show?  The audience is not supposed to be under the illusion that Lecter is "a semi-decent non-psycophatic character."  The show is using dramatic irony pretty heavily as a story-telling device.  We know that Lecter is evil, but the characters don't.  And since he hasn't been captured yet, there's no reason for him to go full-on evil.  Like any true psychopath, Lecter is able to hide his real personality from others and put on an air of normality.

It's a really interesting dichotomy between Will, who's incapable of hiding what he feels, and Lecter who does that constantly.  As mentioned above, this makes Will seem like the crazy one, even the we all know it's really Lecter.
 
2013-04-21 05:06:17 PM

dragonchild: fusillade762: And the reporter is annoying, but it gave us the best line of the series so far: "You really shouldn't mess with a guy who thinks about killing people for a living."

. . . And then they promptly take a stinky dump on that line by publishing it on the website.  You got it all wrong; she's not annoying at all.  The actress is actually playing a sociopathic reporter quite well; she's entertaining to watch in a twisted sense, even more so than Hannibal who's mostly passive and creepy like a stalker.  The problem is that when bad guys fail upwards by good being dumb, and I mean REAL dumb (for real), I lose interest.  The show isn't the cat-and-mouse game I hoped it'd be; it generates drama through stupidity and I find that painfully boring.

The FBI takes it personally that a tabloid is writing things about them.  Um, isn't that what tabloids do?  If Will didn't say anything she'd just make shiat up.  And isn't she doing so because you're not keeping her away from crime scenes?  (There's a quip where she says the FBI needs to patrol their perimeters better, but I don't buy it.  This isn't someone who dubbed a movie on a VHS tape here; it's a serial killer hot case and a PR disaster.)  It's obvious this woman is unfazed by anything; a guy got shot close enough to spatter her with blood and she's no worse for wear.  The FBI is doing everything wrong to make her as powerful as possible, which is exactly how not to make a story interesting to me.  If I want to see a show about idiots farking things up beyond belief, The Three Stooges did a much better job.


Good points. Either the FBI and the cops are incompetent or she's Batman.
 
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