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(GoFundMe)   Fundraiser for Jeff Bauman, whose legs were blown off at Boston Marathon, has passed $300K and is aiming for $1 million   (gofundme.com) divider line 58
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2013-04-20 11:02:33 AM
7 votes:
Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?
2013-04-20 10:45:58 AM
7 votes:
things like this is sort of the exact reason why we should have socialized medicine.
2013-04-20 10:48:06 AM
6 votes:
A guy gets his legs blown off in a cowardly terrorist attack... and has to worry about paying the medical bills.

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/what I find really sad about the story
//'Murica!
2013-04-20 01:44:29 PM
5 votes:
For those wondering if his medical insurance will pay, I worked in medical insurance for years.  All the policies I worked on had certain exclusions, and one of those exclusions is that they will not cover injuries/illnesses related to acts of terrorism/war.  It's pretty commonplace.

If he has insurance, it is very possible his insurance may deny all the claims if it (very likely) has this exclusion.
2013-04-20 11:27:19 AM
5 votes:

leevis: PanicMan: Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?

Just what I want, health care brought to me by the same people who gave us social security, unnecessary wars, lax border security, the war on drugs, etc.


you'd rather get it from those who stand to make a buck by denying you coverage
2013-04-20 02:29:25 PM
4 votes:

a_real_human_being: Oh my god. How does that happen? If they covered 1.03 million, why would they leave 80k for her? And where the fark does 1.1 million come from?


Depending on when it happened: Most of the healthinsurance companies used to have a $1m lifetime benefit limit. Anything over that and you're on your own.
The Affordable Care Act prohibits health plans from putting a lifetime dollar limit on benefits now.

And where the 1.1 million came from: Because they can?  Medical billing is the biggest scam in modern history.
2013-04-20 11:06:39 AM
4 votes:

Molavian: Fark: Where everything turns into partisan douchebaggery.


It's partisan to point out how disgusting it is that victims of tragedy have to fund raise or go bankrupt?

/I fully support giving money.
//It's just a sign of how perverse our society is that it's even necessary
2013-04-20 10:50:10 AM
4 votes:
This guy may also have provided a description of a bomber to the FBI, which would have speeded up the image search tremendously:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/victim-in-icon ic -photo-says-he-saw-bomber/2013/04/19/0de8b100-a8a3-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb591 87f_story.html
2013-04-20 10:46:33 AM
4 votes:
I've seen this pic, and it was terrible and has been seared into my brain. The image of him holding onto his thighs and obviously in shock, and his legs blown off, bloody rags, was something ill never forget. I hope that his gf remains with him, and gives him the support he needs.
2013-04-20 10:41:54 AM
4 votes:
How about the other people that lost limbs?
2013-04-20 11:56:14 AM
3 votes:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/19/pf/crowdfunding-boston-victims/

Here is a link to some of the other victims charities. Let's not forget about all of them as well. Its great that these people had loved ones care enough to set up something for them, but the ones in the background, the ones who didnt have their photo taken should not be forgotten.
2013-04-20 11:31:46 AM
3 votes:

berylman: I really hate to ask/wonder what insurance he had and if they would cover this and if all this is really necessary?  Probably is at least partly so just an estimate.


He had no insurance, he was working up in a NH Costco and was planning on going back to college.

The fact that he's uninsured is why the fundraiser was started.
2013-04-20 11:15:29 AM
3 votes:

berylman: I really hate to ask/wonder what insurance he had and if they would cover this and if all this is really necessary?  Probably is at least partly so just an estimate.


pretty sure his insurance isn't going to cover 100% of his lost wages from being handicapped the rest of his life.
2013-04-20 10:55:14 AM
3 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?


This
2013-04-20 10:49:26 AM
3 votes:

depmode98: things like this is sort of the exact reason why we should have socialized medicine.


Yep. Oh you got blown up by a bomb? Welcome to bankruptcy too!
2013-04-21 05:24:12 AM
2 votes:
I'd warn everyone against feeling smug that you have insurance. Insurance companies are pretty adept at having exemptions, since not having to pay helps their bottom line, which is what they are all about after all. They wouldn't make profits if they paid all the bills from all the claims. Instead they pay lawyers to write some legitimate way of weaselling out of paying claims into their contracts.
2013-04-20 04:32:02 PM
2 votes:

weasil: Marshmallow Jones:
Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.

I know others will give you shiat for saying it, but I'm with you on this. If you lose your legs trying to save someone else, that's heroic. Losing them by being the unlucky sap in the wrong place at the wrong time is not. The heroism awards go to those who step in to help, and you don't need to be an American to be a hero (Carlos Arredondo -- cowboy hat man -- was born in Costa Rica, according to Wikipedia).


Do both you morons realize the hero label isn't for losing his legs but bc upon become conscious he immediately ask for paper so while still unable to speak he could identify one of the bombers since he watched the guy drop the bag that blew off his legs?
2013-04-20 01:30:51 PM
2 votes:

relcec: a_real_human_being: A guy gets his legs blown off in a cowardly terrorist attack... and has to worry about paying the medical bills.

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/what I find really sad about the story
//'Murica!

he was voluntarily uninsured. he lives in a place called Massachusetts where if you can not afford insurance it is provided for you.
he's simply an idiot who refused to pay a few bucks a day to insure against an unlikely but catastrophic event.
he could be the poster boy for reckless disregard for others.
the system didn't fail him, he failed the community.


Yo bootstrap! He's from New Hampshire...therefore not eligible for the mass health care. But you obviously already knew that, as you seem like the type that thinks they know everything.

/self righteous pig farker
2013-04-20 01:16:50 PM
2 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?


This was also the guy who woke up for the first time, drugged out of his mind, and immediately stated that he made eye contact with the terrorist, and saw him placing the bomb, and helped to ID him.  He is the main reason we caught them, and should probably get rewarded for that as well.
2013-04-20 12:39:42 PM
2 votes:
2013-04-20 12:25:45 PM
2 votes:

relcec: this should be a teaching moment.
I'd like to see him starve to death on his hands and nubs on the streets of boston as a lesson to all those who are given the option to buy medical insurance at reasonable rates but decline for selfish reasons.


When I was young, I opted out of an offer of health insurance because I wanted an extra $1.00/hr wages. It can be hard for a young, healthy person to imagine the need for health insurance.
2013-04-20 12:10:47 PM
2 votes:
Marshmallow Jones:
Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.

I know others will give you shiat for saying it, but I'm with you on this. If you lose your legs trying to save someone else, that's heroic. Losing them by being the unlucky sap in the wrong place at the wrong time is not. The heroism awards go to those who step in to help, and you don't need to be an American to be a hero (Carlos Arredondo -- cowboy hat man -- was born in Costa Rica, according to Wikipedia).
2013-04-20 12:08:34 PM
2 votes:

Fear the Clam: This guy may also have provided a description of a bomber to the FBI, which would have speeded up the image search tremendously:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/victim-in-icon ic -photo-says-he-saw-bomber/2013/04/19/0de8b100-a8a3-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb591 87f_story.html


He DID provide the description.  And he's only alive because of the "Boston Cowboy" efforts and literally holding his artery shut.  Boston Cowboy almost killed himself in despair when he lost a son in Iraq, and has since lost the other to depression from that.  But he found a calling, and then was in the right place at the right time to save Jeff.  Jeff looked into the eyes of Evil and was luckily able to pass on that information to law enforcment.  Flipping heros all around us...

It's a amazing story all around.
2013-04-20 11:53:59 AM
2 votes:
Those pictures of the guy being carted away were really awful.  Obviously loads of other people were hurt but they got a donation site well-publicized and he'll benefit from it - he's got mine.  He's also got a very tough road ahead.

Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.
2013-04-20 11:19:01 AM
2 votes:

MNguy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?

Like the kids in Iraq?


America might forget them, but not the Doctors Without Borders.
2013-04-20 11:09:13 AM
2 votes:

a_real_human_being: A guy gets his legs blown off in a cowardly terrorist attack... and has to worry about paying the medical bills.

/what I find really sad about the story
//'Murica!


But we have the best healthcare in the world, I've been told.  Repeatedly.
2013-04-20 11:07:41 AM
2 votes:

PanicMan: Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?


But that's socialism. And communism. And WARBLEGARBLE.
2013-04-20 11:00:36 AM
2 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?

This


Let's not help anyone!

The number is crawling towards 1 million...
2013-04-20 10:52:42 AM
2 votes:
Giving 10 bucks. It aint much but Im broke
2013-04-20 10:51:16 AM
2 votes:
I hope he runs the Boston Marathon on prosthetics or in a wheelchair in a few years.
2013-04-21 09:41:54 AM
1 votes:

Nidiot: I'd warn everyone against feeling smug that you have insurance. Insurance companies are pretty adept at having exemptions, since not having to pay helps their bottom line, which is what they are all about after all. They wouldn't make profits if they paid all the bills from all the claims. Instead they pay lawyers to write some legitimate way of weaselling out of paying claims into their contracts.


Insurance companies SUCK. Doesn't matter what type--car, home, health, etc. They can all EAGBOD.
2013-04-20 08:23:45 PM
1 votes:
Apik0r0s:  What does an act of war or terrorism have to do with a crime?

First, there are plenty of companies that will not cover injuries to a crime victim, because the injuries are the result of an intentional action (even though it wasn't the victim's intentional action). They'll tell you to file with the perpetrator's insurance or a victim compensation fund.

The insurance company gets to decide what they call it. The police and government might call it a crime, but they can still decide that they see it as an act of terrorism and it's not covered.

Your policy doesn't cover experimental treatments or any health care that you might need as a result of experimental treatments and they decide what qualifies as experimental. And if it's an expensive treatment, it will remain "experimental" for a long, long time.
2013-04-20 07:17:59 PM
1 votes:
relcec:  he was voluntarily uninsured. he lives in a place called Massachusetts where if you can not afford insurance it is provided for you.
he's simply an idiot who refused to pay a few bucks a day to insure against an unlikely but catastrophic event.
he could be the poster boy for reckless disregard for others.
the system didn't fail him, he failed the community.

he lived in massachussetttes. he wasn't uninsured because he worked at a Costco, he was uninsured because he actively avoided getting it.


You might want to read your insurance policy Mr. Smug. Most policies have a clause specifying that injuries due to war or acts of terrorism are NOT COVERED. So having health insurance wouldn't have helped him.

I would imagine that in this case the insurance companies will cover the costs because it's a lot cheaper than the bad publicity they would get for not covering people.
2013-04-20 05:36:30 PM
1 votes:

a_real_human_being: jack21221: Having insurance is no panacea. My sister had insurance when she was shot in the neck, but she still had $80,000 in medical bills. She otherwise would have owed 1.1 million.

There is literally zero difference to her whether she owes 80k or 1100k. She will never pay either amount back.

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Oh my god. How does that happen? If they covered 1.03 million, why would they leave 80k for her? And where the fark does 1.1 million come from?

I think it's a shame that in the U.S. the overwhelming support for strangers who, through no fault of their own, have come on hard times (in instances like this) doesn't persist outside of these dramatic crises. That being said, you can even see the mindset of blaming the victim in situations like these, where people will say he should have known it was a bomb and ran away, etc.


I really don't know the gory details about the insurance policy. The high dollar amount comes from the fact that the bullet hit her spinal cord, so she was in the ICU for a month, and then in inpatient rehab for over a month. They actually tried denying her coverage altogether, because a couple months prior she was late on a payment. Her credit card was stolen, so she had to miss a month and make a double payment once all that was cleared up. They even sent a letter stating that everything was fine and her policy was up to date. So, at a time less than 24 hours after she was shot, and we didn't know if she was going to live or die, my mother had to go home and find that letter they sent that stated the policy was up to date, and fax it over to the insurance company.

Since my sister is a high level quadriplegic, she cannot work, and is just on social security disability. The hospital sued my sister anyway, and her legal advice was to ignore it, because they can't garnish social security disability payments.

The problem is what happens years down the line. My sister's old wheelchair van was starting to fall apart. It was a cheap one to begin with, but it was completely undriveable at one point. We had to throw a fundraiser for her to buy her a new van. I'm sure it's not the last fundraiser we'll need to have for her.

I suspect these bombing victims are going to have a lot of issues like this down the road. It's not enough to pay their medical bills now. They are going to have related costs for the rest of their lives.
2013-04-20 03:49:21 PM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: leevis: PanicMan: Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?

Just what I want, health care brought to me by the same people who gave us social security, unnecessary wars, lax border security, the war on drugs, etc.

you'd rather get it from those who stand to make a buck by denying you coverage


one giant THIS, wtf is wrong with the brainwashed masses in this country? we might have the best medical technology, but if the cost of access is beyond reasonable then we really don't have the best.
2013-04-20 03:06:55 PM
1 votes:

leevis: Hobodeluxe: leevis: PanicMan: Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?

Just what I want, health care brought to me by the same people who gave us social security, unnecessary wars, lax border security, the war on drugs, etc.

you'd rather get it from those who stand to make a buck by denying you coverage

I'd prefer health care without government OR insurance companies. If I have to choose, I'll go with the insurance company, it's easier to change providers.


Yeah, just change jobs. That's hella easy these days.
2013-04-20 02:52:50 PM
1 votes:
I really want to donate, but how do we know for sure this is for him? I'd like to see a confirmation this money is actually going to him. Too many scams going on for me to trust this out of hand, especially since the page is a woman saying she's doing it 'for' him.
2013-04-20 02:42:28 PM
1 votes:
So, knowing Jeff, I have to say he's amazing and I wish him all the best in his recovery and I know all of the donations will go a long way in making sure he gets all of the follow-up care he needs.

However, not to take away from Jeff's obvious need for assistance with medical bills, but his friend, Michelle Mahoney, who was standing next to him, is in need of assistance too.  She's the girl in the glasses standing next to him on his gofundme page, and is an upbeat and awesome person who always goes out of her way to help others.  While Jeff will undoubtedly get hundreds of thousands more in donations, Michelle thus far has received less than $15K. While her legs were not amputated, they were shattered, and one of her feet was almost completely severed. They aren't sure, the last I heard, if the re-attachment is going to be successful or not. She's going to need extensive therapy.  It would really help her out a lot if Fark got behind her and got information out about her gofundme site to help bring in donations for her care.

http://www.gofundme.com/theMRMfund
2013-04-20 02:10:43 PM
1 votes:

jack21221: Having insurance is no panacea. My sister had insurance when she was shot in the neck, but she still had $80,000 in medical bills. She otherwise would have owed 1.1 million.

There is literally zero difference to her whether she owes 80k or 1100k. She will never pay either amount back.


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Oh my god. How does that happen? If they covered 1.03 million, why would they leave 80k for her? And where the fark does 1.1 million come from?

I think it's a shame that in the U.S. the overwhelming support for strangers who, through no fault of their own, have come on hard times (in instances like this) doesn't persist outside of these dramatic crises. That being said, you can even see the mindset of blaming the victim in situations like these, where people will say he should have known it was a bomb and ran away, etc.
2013-04-20 02:05:29 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: Fark: Where everything turns into partisan douchebaggery.


I would contend that opposition to socialized medicine is the douchebaggery.
2013-04-20 01:07:16 PM
1 votes:
Having insurance is no panacea. My sister had insurance when she was shot in the neck, but she still had $80,000 in medical bills. She otherwise would have owed 1.1 million.

There is literally zero difference to her whether she owes 80k or 1100k. She will never pay either amount back.
2013-04-20 01:01:48 PM
1 votes:

God-is-a-Taco: Are there any websites like this that DON'T skim money off for their own profit?
There's so many of them, but of course they all take a share of the donations.


Is there a land where hardware, bandwidth, and payroll are free?
2013-04-20 12:23:29 PM
1 votes:

weasil: Marshmallow Jones:
Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.

I know others will give you shiat for saying it, but I'm with you on this. If you lose your legs trying to save someone else, that's heroic. Losing them by being the unlucky sap in the wrong place at the wrong time is not. The heroism awards go to those who step in to help, and you don't need to be an American to be a hero (Carlos Arredondo -- cowboy hat man -- was born in Costa Rica, according to Wikipedia).


Not only was he the unlucky sap, but he did absolutely nothing for 2.5 minutes after the bomber put the bomb bag at his feet.  He allegedly looked the bomber square in the eye, watched him drop the bag at his feet, and then watched him leave.  He was the person that ID'd the bomber for the FBI.  If he had opened the bag and realized it was a bomb, and then covered it with his body.... then he would be a hero.
2013-04-20 12:14:59 PM
1 votes:

RangerTaylor: I love Fark:  "Other people have this problem, so we shouldn't donate to anyone."


"I can't help everyone, so I'm not going to help anyone." I wish I could live like that. I do prefer to see people helping locally, donating money locally. There are lots of people in need in one's own community.
2013-04-20 12:08:48 PM
1 votes:

Marshmallow Jones: Those pictures of the guy being carted away were really awful.  Obviously loads of other people were hurt but they got a donation site well-publicized and he'll benefit from it - he's got mine.  He's also got a very tough road ahead.

Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.


the race officials decided it was cool to let uncredentialed people drop off luggage filled with 7-liter bombs at the finish line and then stroll away.
they should get a public reaming.
2013-04-20 12:06:43 PM
1 votes:

a_real_human_being: A guy gets his legs blown off in a cowardly terrorist attack... and has to worry about paying the medical bills.

[img805.imageshack.us image 640x480]

/what I find really sad about the story
//'Murica!


he was voluntarily uninsured. he lives in a place called Massachusetts where if you can not afford insurance it is provided for you.
he's simply an idiot who refused to pay a few bucks a day to insure against an unlikely but catastrophic event.
he could be the poster boy for reckless disregard for others.
the system didn't fail him, he failed the community.
2013-04-20 12:03:52 PM
1 votes:

bikerbob59: depmode98: things like this is sort of the exact reason why we should have socialized medicine.

Citation needed.


Scandinavia.
2013-04-20 11:37:28 AM
1 votes:

berylman: I really hate to ask/wonder what insurance he had and if they would cover this and if all this is really necessary?  Probably is at least partly so just an estimate.


As noted, health insurance doesn't include living expenses etc during rehabilitation.  Not sure what he did for a living but it will likely be impacted as well.

This is what the AFLAC duck is for, but most people don't have that.
2013-04-20 11:36:26 AM
1 votes:

RangerTaylor: I love Fark:  "Other people have this problem, so we shouldn't donate to anyone."


F'ing jagoffs.
2013-04-20 11:25:27 AM
1 votes:

RangerTaylor: I love Fark:  "Other people have this problem, so we shouldn't donate to anyone."

Hey Donate Local Remain Focal! imagined jingo
2013-04-20 11:16:18 AM
1 votes:
I love Fark:  "Other people have this problem, so we shouldn't donate to anyone."
2013-04-20 11:14:56 AM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?


I'm guessing prosthetic companies might approach them. There are some really cool development of prosthetic limbs right now, and then there's the Blade Runners.
2013-04-20 11:11:32 AM
1 votes:
How do we know this is legit?  Couldn't some random person just set up a GoFundMe site and claim it was for Bauman?
2013-04-20 11:09:09 AM
1 votes:

Theory Of Null: The internet is awesome at raising money and watching porn.


I came here to raise money and watch porn, and I'm all out of sperm.
2013-04-20 11:04:45 AM
1 votes:
Fark: Where everything turns into partisan douchebaggery.
2013-04-20 11:03:46 AM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?


How about the dozens of people who were killed in Iraq from bomb attacks this past week?
2013-04-20 10:55:38 AM
1 votes:

MNguy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?

Like the kids in Iraq?


/ignored


(At least that's what we do as Americans, right?)
2013-04-20 10:52:59 AM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?


Like the kids in Iraq?
 
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